No Taxes - /biz/ (#60509491) [Archived: 1067 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: XaFSkEva
6/16/2025, 12:40:53 PM No.60509491
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Is it possible to live a somewhat decent life without paying taxes (in Europe)? My religion doesn't allow me to pay taxes, what are my options? Indirect taxes may be acceptable under some circumstances.
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Anonymous ID: YIW4A4kq
6/16/2025, 12:54:25 PM No.60509528
>>60509491 (OP)
Homeless people don't pay taxes.
Because the government cannot contact them, and doesn't know where they are.
Anonymous ID: tMaG34Lw
6/16/2025, 12:58:33 PM No.60509540
>>60509491 (OP)
Claim you're a refugee from Greenland
Anonymous ID: ox7+ntYM
6/16/2025, 12:59:43 PM No.60509543
>>60509491 (OP)
>Is it possible to live a somewhat decent life without paying taxes
well, there's-
>(in Europe)
OMEGAKEK!!!!!!!!!!!!! never mind.
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Anonymous ID: XaFSkEva
6/16/2025, 1:04:08 PM No.60509554
>>60509543
>well, there's-
There's what? What would be the options outside of Europe?
Anonymous ID: MmqikxXu
6/16/2025, 1:38:36 PM No.60509653
>>60509491 (OP)
Taxes is just part of societal life. You have to pay the upkeep of those things you enjoy like streets, lighting, parks and roads. We do pay too many taxes for what we get but you will never escape taxes.
If you don't want to pay taxes go to the brazilian jungle and make yourself a hut. You will not be found and nobody will ask you to pay any taxes.
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Anonymous ID: YIW4A4kq
6/16/2025, 1:48:48 PM No.60509695
>>60509653
Correct. If the government doesn't know who you are or where you live, you don't pay taxes. Only members of "society" pay taxes.
Opt out of "society" and you are free
Anonymous ID: 7IaT4nuR
6/16/2025, 1:50:16 PM No.60509701
>>60509491 (OP)
There are, but not for muslim sandniggers.
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Anonymous ID: XaFSkEva
6/16/2025, 2:03:56 PM No.60509759
>>60509653
>You have to pay the upkeep of those things you enjoy
Tbh European goverments seem to be doing more harm than good to the continent. Not paying taxes is the only way to engage in some sort of actual political activism.
>>60509701
If I were a muslim sandnigger I wouldn't need to ask this question.
Anonymous ID: lY1U30sW
6/16/2025, 2:08:27 PM No.60509776
You must pay Israel
You must pay reproducing brown people overloading social infrastructure (allowance, housing, medical)
You must pay climate change action

Never question taxes, loans and interest
Anonymous ID: ui5Rksr2
6/16/2025, 2:09:41 PM No.60509779
>>60509543
Until a few years ago you could live in Bulgaria and evade all your taxes (some who shared their crypto with the taxman got abducted and killed anyway so you have to be insane to file a tax return). I got like -$3m in unrealised losses just because I was stupid enough to do things legally and I didn't sell before moving to Dubai (Bulgaria has no exit tax) but people would simply trade and not give a shit and still move to Dubai, worked for them.
But the EU now has a common reporting standard for exchanges so that's out the window. And obviously, every EU country is excluded.
Can't you just pay very little tax? You can go to Andorra if that's the case, you also get Dubai-levels of police state / security, in addition to being surrounded by whites and good nature.
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Anonymous ID: vQ0EJDgM
6/16/2025, 2:11:28 PM No.60509789
>deposit 500,000 € into Monacan bank
>apply for residence permit
>live in Monaco for 183 days per year
Congrats, enjoy not paying any taxes
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Anonymous ID: StaZFiYO
6/16/2025, 2:16:57 PM No.60509806
I don't know if this works in the EU, but this is a common loophole in the US.

1. Start a company in your country and have it make all the profits
2. Start an international company in a country with no business taxes
3. Have company #2 bill company #1 for the exact amount in profits you have made
4. Company #1 now has no profits after expenses and owes no taxes
5. Company #2 has all profits but owes no taxes
Anonymous ID: XaFSkEva
6/16/2025, 2:21:24 PM No.60509823
>>60509789
I know you may not believe me but I'm actually a poorfag.
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Anonymous ID: vQ0EJDgM
6/16/2025, 2:29:38 PM No.60509847
>>60509823
Why wouldn't I believe you? Most of us are.
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Anonymous ID: XaFSkEva
6/16/2025, 2:38:21 PM No.60509877
>>60509847
Nah I don't believe you.
Anonymous ID: yAcfQuDQ
6/16/2025, 2:54:38 PM No.60509960
>>60509779
Andorra is a cold narrow shithole. Even eight figures live in apartments there, it's Monaco levels of cuckolding.
You have to make an appointment to go to a shop, because there is not much parking space, and you have to drive 200 kilometers to get any relevant infrastructure.
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Anonymous ID: OLdJ/jpO
6/16/2025, 2:58:26 PM No.60509971
>>60509789
>live in Monaco for 183 days per year
hard to do with a QoL thats acceptable
a cuckshed apt goes for 20 mil, good luck
Anonymous ID: ui5Rksr2
6/16/2025, 8:04:17 PM No.60511414
>>60509960
Plenty of houses outside of Andorra la Vella, including in places where you can walk to the capital.
I don't wanna return to the EU, but I'm also getting fucking tired of Dubai and I wanna go back to Europe at one point, I see no other option.
I like small village life, I like safety, I like nature, I like being surrounded by actual europeans and while it sucks that you're 3 hours away from a big city, it's what keeps undesirables away.
I'm open to other suggestions, though
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Anonymous ID: OLdJ/jpO
6/16/2025, 8:09:03 PM No.60511424
>>60511414
>I'm open to other suggestions, though
Algarve, Portugal?
its what i am looking into as i cant stand the sand and air pollution of dubai
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Anonymous ID: E9C7ZkQg
6/16/2025, 8:11:37 PM No.60511431
Aren't there like a hundred countries with no taxes in europe? Thought they had like monaco, isle of man, malta, gilbralter, andorra, switzerland, belgium, cyprus, I think even portugal and italy have some tax exempt scheme.
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6/16/2025, 8:14:46 PM No.60511441
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>>60509491 (OP)
Anonymous ID: ui5Rksr2
6/16/2025, 8:16:08 PM No.60511445
>>60511424
How's the tax situation there? No tax on long term holdings?
I don't wanna cuck away 50%, not wealthy enough to do that. My Dubai condo can yield me around $150k/yr (I'm on the Palm, just today I couldn't see Burj al Arab from the pollution, worst in weeks) but this market seems primed to crash and apart from running a trading bot (which I'm not sure how I'll structure in Portugal) I don't have a lot of income.
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Anonmous ID: o8Ap4ozN
6/16/2025, 8:22:41 PM No.60511469
>>60509653
everything just is until it just isnt.
Anonymous ID: 43bVSONi
6/16/2025, 8:25:19 PM No.60511481
>>60509491 (OP)
There are no taxes on long-term crypto profits in germany.
Anonymous ID: OLdJ/jpO
6/16/2025, 8:31:14 PM No.60511512
>>60511445
1 year hodl is fine, government finance relatively ok for the eu, trading bots would however get you fucked at 50% yes
not sure about the market crash tho since the m2 graph is looking very fine, macro recession is not coming from domestic factors so the only way for a crash right now is either china invading taiwan or iran targeting all saudi and emirati oil infrastructure, but they seem to be a complete paper tiger at this point

>>60511431
belgium is tax hell come next year, malta has a securities consideration for crypto so btc is fine, alts?, cyprus is not a safe place geopolitically
can you still get into those british dependency post brexit, havent looked into those tho
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Anonymous ID: ui5Rksr2
6/17/2025, 1:28:15 PM No.60513746
>>60511512
Thanks.
I guess I'll stick to Andorra for now, but similarly to Dubai, it won't be a long-term solution.
Kids could quickly learn Catalan, and from then on any Romance language should be easy.
Portugal seems iffy, hopefully they stabilise politically.