I don't get it - /biz/ (#60511228) [Archived: 1076 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: OF2Erl5a
6/16/2025, 7:15:32 PM No.60511228
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Anonymous ID: e6Yulr/H
6/16/2025, 7:17:25 PM No.60511233
>>60511228 (OP)
Top is poor cultureless areas like the American South. Bottom is white safehavens like Norway
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Anonymous ID: RmDWweoi
6/16/2025, 7:18:49 PM No.60511239
it isn't binary, it's a spectrum
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Anonymous ID: YOTxzQoA
6/16/2025, 7:19:40 PM No.60511245
>everything is a spectrum cries the midwit
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6/16/2025, 7:20:12 PM No.60511247
OP is so dumb for not getting this
Anonymous ID: 7WavEWtR
6/16/2025, 7:32:08 PM No.60511279
>>60511228 (OP)
socialist capitalism or libertarian communism
Anonymous ID: I1WAUF6b
6/16/2025, 7:34:00 PM No.60511288
>>60511233
norway is norway because of they just happen to have an absurd amount of oil. if it weren't for this, norway would be a lot more like sweden or denmark, overrun with browns who "prop up the economy" in theory but mostly leech off welfare in practice.
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Anonymous ID: rCfudo4u
6/16/2025, 7:44:13 PM No.60511332
See the joke is that its a useless lightswitch and dial since communism doesn't work.
Anonymous ID: igP2s6BJ
6/16/2025, 7:46:12 PM No.60511346
The joke is that Americans don't understand what either word means and just try to define it by how their CIA propaganda uses these words.
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Anonymous ID: yY6bsEBT
6/16/2025, 8:03:54 PM No.60511412
>>60511288
>, norway would be a lot more like sweden or denmark, overrun with browns
I would like the murikans to stop talking in public please. Norway is overrun with browns, genius. Travel more.
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Anonymous ID: 7mGoDg1+
6/16/2025, 8:34:14 PM No.60511523
>>60511288
How are mutts always this delusional without self-awareness? Norway has as much browns as Denmark. Also neither of them are completely communistic, theyโ€™re socialist with a free market.
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Anonymous ID: rBnzOqG0
6/16/2025, 8:58:42 PM No.60511595
>>60511523
>>socialist
>>with a free market
choose one, retard
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Anonymous ID: 2kqq0usp
6/16/2025, 9:01:04 PM No.60511604
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There is only the free market and then the extent to which states intervene in it. "Capitalism" isn't a real thing either, it's just a free market. It's a spectrum from free to communist. The west is socialist and isn't honest with itself about it. There is a reason why republicans and socialists fought side by side in the Spanish Civil War: they are adjacent.
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Anonymous ID: 2kqq0usp
6/16/2025, 9:02:53 PM No.60511612
>>60511604

And further there's a reason why you'll notice in every single republic/parliamentary western state, it seems like the socialists/"centrists" form coalitions and gang up on "the far right." We are socialists pretending to be free. If the people realized they are essentially raped of 60% of everything they earn through various forms of taxation/control they would be angry. Most of that is hidden from them.
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Anonymous ID: U2pb3azU
6/16/2025, 9:04:20 PM No.60511616
>>60511239
This. Like sexualities and genders.
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Anonymous ID: 2kqq0usp
6/16/2025, 9:05:16 PM No.60511617
>>60511616

Sexualities sure, genders no. There are only 2 genders, your personality isn't a gender.
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Anonymous ID: U2pb3azU
6/16/2025, 9:06:58 PM No.60511621
>>60511617
Actually no, you can be anywhere between ultra fem, or just a cute twink.
But never a hairy bear.
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Anonymous ID: 2kqq0usp
6/16/2025, 9:14:20 PM No.60511654
>>60511621

Feminine men and masculine women have always existed, we didn't need to redefine the concrete and known concept of gender for that. You're literally just describing what people call "personality."
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Anonymous ID: U2pb3azU
6/16/2025, 9:15:45 PM No.60511663
>>60511654
Not really, its more that you see girls with a feminine benis.
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Anonymous ID: xKFW8K5d
6/16/2025, 9:21:09 PM No.60511685
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>>60511228 (OP)
Anonymous ID: hFSMNPlK
6/16/2025, 9:35:23 PM No.60511740
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>>60511233
>Top is poor cultureless areas like the American South.
Midwit take
Top is Switzerland, Singapore, Estonia, Taiwan etc
Bottom is north korea, Venezuela, cuba etc.

Why do socialist subhumans lie all the time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_economic_freedom
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Anonymous ID: hFSMNPlK
6/16/2025, 9:36:45 PM No.60511742
>>60511346
>CIA propaganda
You don't need cia propaganda to look into history and see socialism enslaving, starving and killing the working class
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Anonymous ID: yY6bsEBT
6/16/2025, 9:36:54 PM No.60511744
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>>60511595
Freer than yours, Tyrone
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Anonymous ID: 7mGoDg1+
6/16/2025, 9:38:17 PM No.60511750
>>60511612
Most people are not angry when they help people more unlucky than them (which is done with tax money).
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Anonymous ID: 2kqq0usp
6/16/2025, 9:42:16 PM No.60511765
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>>60511750

Forced charity (that a cabal of scheming state bureaucrats first take their cut of) is digusting to most, actually, which is why it was never put up for a vote, but rather forced on everyone
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Anonymous ID: RgVnmHDS
6/16/2025, 9:50:48 PM No.60511799
>>60511740
Lol you haven't worked there ever, have you?
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Anonymous ID: hFSMNPlK
6/16/2025, 10:02:51 PM No.60511848
>>60511799
Worked where? Wtf are you taking about ESL?
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Anonymous ID: igP2s6BJ
6/16/2025, 10:08:25 PM No.60511868
>>60511848
In any of the countries you listed if obvious. Amazing how your argument basically boils down to being too retarded to know that countries are places.
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Anonymous ID: kLP8lf/b
6/16/2025, 10:14:46 PM No.60511895
>>60511595
>free market
Free markets aren't good
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Anonymous ID: hFSMNPlK
6/16/2025, 10:19:29 PM No.60511915
>>60511868
>In any of the countries you listed if obvious
Lmfao
You think socialist amerifats actually lived and worked in Norway?
You're standards of evidence is retarded
We can see the success of these places from the data

>>60511895
Why do countries with the freest markets have the highest living standards for the working class?
Why do workers in Switzerland had the highest real wages?
Anonymous ID: UnKVc6Nw
6/16/2025, 10:22:35 PM No.60511925
>>60511740
Estonia :D:D:D
Taiwan :D:DD
omfg retard
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Anonymous ID: hFSMNPlK
6/16/2025, 10:31:09 PM No.60511955
>>60511925
>ur dum
Argument?
Anonymous ID: 0P0ccL82
6/16/2025, 10:34:47 PM No.60511969
>>60511740
>freedom to die in a ditch because america has shit healthcare
Also, neat self portrait.
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Anonymous ID: hFSMNPlK
6/16/2025, 10:37:57 PM No.60511978
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>>60511969
>>freedom to die in a ditch because america has shit healthcare
America's healthcare is shit because it's government controlled.
You're the one who wants government control, retard.
Anonymous ID: lx1HEFDO
6/16/2025, 10:45:14 PM No.60511997
>>60511663
okay
Anonymous ID: AfMjHRQR
6/16/2025, 11:14:24 PM No.60512078
>>60511616
Kill yourself faggot
Anonymous ID: zM6NQOrS
6/16/2025, 11:26:50 PM No.60512117
>>60511742
You don't need cia propaganda to look into history and see capitalism enslaving, starving and killing the working class.
Maybe power hungry assholes remain power hungry assholes regardless of the chosen system?
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Anonymous ID: hFSMNPlK
6/16/2025, 11:32:05 PM No.60512133
>>60512117
>You don't need cia propaganda to look into history and see capitalism enslaving, starving and killing the working class.
Where?
Countries with the most capitalism(freest markets) have the highest living standards for workers.
The opposite is true for socialist and interventionist countries.
Why do you lie?
>Maybe power hungry assholes
Maybe the state is what concentrates power and creates corruption. Maybe the state is what gives large corporations the power to be corrupt and the answer to corruption is free markets.
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Anonymous ID: xlBiCYdM
6/16/2025, 11:41:34 PM No.60512153
>>60511239
This. Like Legitimacy and Chainlink.
Anonymous ID: zdIdUK4w
6/16/2025, 11:54:28 PM No.60512182
>>60511412
โ€œWouldโ€ refers to a hypothetical situation ESLbro. He isnโ€™t saying thatโ€™s how Norway is today.
Anonymous ID: zdIdUK4w
6/16/2025, 11:55:29 PM No.60512186
>>60511744
Looks like neither Norway nor Denmark are socialist.
Anonymous ID: igP2s6BJ
6/16/2025, 11:58:05 PM No.60512193
>>60512133
Maybe markets can only exist when people are able to rely on ownership and contracts being respected through threat of force and the creation of the state is an inevitable outcome and the misuse of the state is also an inevitable outcome and all societies are all constantly sliding around on a spectrum of force concentration with all talk of ideologies and economics largely being a massive cope for people who can't handle the fact that we're all just powerless in dictating the actual balance of power in a society over the long term.
Anonymous ID: 1EQ+NRiM
6/17/2025, 3:48:03 AM No.60512970
>>60511228 (OP)
American is the potentiometer.
Free markets with a ton of government oversight and social programs funded by taxes.
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Anonymous ID: 7mGoDg1+
6/17/2025, 7:13:58 AM No.60513273
>>60511765
Most people find seeing suffering on the streets more offputting than forced charity. Also government jobs being inefficient is a myth. There are far more leeches on the private sector.
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Anonymous ID: jd48TYz+
6/17/2025, 8:04:42 AM No.60513329
>>60512970
>free markets
>tons of government oversight
Lmao
Anonymous ID: M4snDh4t
6/17/2025, 2:53:45 PM No.60513972
Commies-BTFO
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A brief history of Marx' life:

>had no friends throughout primary school because he was such a pushy faggot.
>went to study law at University of Bonn
>joined a "tavern club" and ran up a huge debt
>was kicked out of UoB for doing poorly and being drunk all the time.
>he threatened that he would become a poet.
>when he wasn't writing overly sentimental letters to his parents, he was fighting with them while at the same time begging for more money.
>continued his half-assed study of law at University of Berlin, then switched to Philosophy the moment his father died.
>started sucking Hegelian cock with other left-wingers
>consumed with erasing Christianity. Probably wore a fedora at some point.
>Pussed out of presenting his Doctoral Thesis at Berlin, and instead transferred to a lesser university to get his Doctorate.
>married Jenny von Westphalan, and promptly failed at all his duties as a husband.
>never held an office or any sort of regular occupation.
>they were constantly living in filth and hunger.
>at least 3 of his children died from malnutrition, and 2 others committed suicide.
>subsisted by begging Engles for money. Engles got his money through his rich father, a capitalist factory owner.
>when a relative gave Marx enough money to clear his debts and start life fresh, he took the money and went touring Germany and squandered all of the money.
>always an asshole, constantly being kicked out of organizations he was trying to game.
>wrote Das Kapital while laid up in bed covered in boils and other health problems.
>died alone like the wretched, worthless pile of shit he was
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Anonymous ID: DOIqsfEu
6/17/2025, 3:46:58 PM No.60514142
>>60513972
Life has always been hard for autistics
Anonymous ID: 2kqq0usp
6/17/2025, 3:51:03 PM No.60514164
rise of welfare
rise of welfare
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>>60513273

No, they really don't. When someone is obviously suffering (very rare), the community tends to give charity. This is natural. The mass forced charity goes to support a disgusting perversion of this, the modern welfare state. No one voted for this and no one wants it, you are a parasite.
Anonymous ID: 2kqq0usp
6/17/2025, 3:56:39 PM No.60514187
>>60513972

It is a loser's ideology, bar none.