My cousin told me about this last Thanksgiving, I just started now started looking into it apparently I can use my veteran status to get hard to reach contracts from businesses and outsource the contract/work to other businesses that can't get it. Meanwhile I don't have to do any labor and can make thousands per deal. But isn't this wrong? Someone tell me because I can legit get rich off this. Im 100% disabled. No way it could be this easy

>>60529411 (OP)
it goes alright until one of the businesses pays late or doesn't pay at all and you owe the subbies for the work.

>>60529411 (OP)
Veteran and contractor here.

first of all, it's not immoral.

second, you can't just get a contract and then sub it and make money

you actually have to register with SAM, set up an IPP, get your veteran or 8(a) designation from the SBA, look for contracts, compete with me and thousands of other veterans, and then find out there's basically no veteran set-asides and all contracts have limitations on subcontracting, and you have to actually know the prices and have experience and references for the work

let me know if you want to know more, but no. Basically nobody is handing vets free money. Fuggetaboutit

maybe dont be a pussy

>>60529411 (OP)
common limitations on subcontracting include things like
>Prime contractor must do 51% of the dollar value of the contract in house

that would be awesome if you could actually sub the contract out for 49% of gross, but of course that almost never happens. What actually happens is another vet like me steps in with a company that already does that work and says,
>I'll do 100% of the work at a 30% profit margin

and you're fucked.

every single time

>>60529431
I asked chat gpt about what you said and here's the response:

"You’re not wrong about the bureaucracy — yes, there's red tape, and no, they’re not handing out bags of cash to vets just for showing up.
But saying 'you can’t just get a contract and sub it out' is flat-out wrong. It’s called FAR 52.219-14, and it literally allows subcontracting as long as the prime (me) does 51% of the work by cost — or partners with a similarly situated SDVOSB to stay compliant. That 51% doesn’t have to be hard labor. It can be admin, project management, client communication, invoicing, or virtual services — all of which are billable and count toward the total.

You’re out here grinding in the trenches, competing for crumbs and doing the physical work. I’m targeting low-bid, low-competition contracts and flipping them by managing subs and marking up the project. It’s legal, strategic, and happening all the time — just ask the guys running 6-figure LLCs while barely leaving their laptop.

So no, it’s not immoral. It’s not even a loophole — it’s literally written into the Federal Acquisition Regulation.

You’re doing the labor. I’m building the machine. Big difference

>>60529447
see
>>60529446
common limitations on subcontracting include things like
>Prime contractor must do 51% of the dollar value of the contract in house

>>60529446
""Yeah, that’s true — if you’re bidding against other SDVOSBs who do the labor themselves, you can get undercut. But that only happens if you're playing on the same level. I'm not. I'm not swinging a mop or wiring up routers — I'm owning the paper."

The real game isn’t bidding on high-competition contracts against grinders like you. It’s:

Going after unbid micro-purchases, urgent requests, or low-visibility local set-asides

Stacking capability statements + teaming agreements with similarly situated SDVOSBs

Partnering with niche subs who can deliver at scale — while I manage the backend

You said yourself: guys like you do the work at 30% profit. That means the prime made 70%. I’ll happily let another vet do 100% of the work if he’s technically a sub and I stay compliant.

You think I’m "fucked"?
Nah — I’m in the owner’s box while you're on the field.
I’m not competing with you. I’m writing the check."

Chatgpt wins again, im gonna get rich

>>60529455
lol

I've been doing this for 25 years now, I know how it goes

you're welcome to join up and try. I'll even help you get the registrations and certs you need to bid. Because I know full well you're not going to win. You have no idea how many vets are out there competing for every single job.

>>60529455
ask chat how many veteran set-asides there are

I believe the number is close to zero

>>60529455
>The real game isn’t bidding on high-competition contracts against grinders like you. It’s:
>Going after unbid micro-purchases, urgent requests, or low-visibility local set-asides
also this is true

but these are under $30k
you're not getting rich off one or two contracts in the $3-30k range

>>60529460
Honestly, Since im 100% im cool with subcontractoring there's no pressure for me. I have no kids and my narcissist abysive gf broke up with me because I refused to become a millionaire to fuel her over entitled desire for princess. Now I just want to make more money and get even more muscular out of spite. Please do tell me about the certs and regs, much appreciated.

>>60529466
""Yeah, that’s true — if you’re bidding against other SDVOSBs who do the labor themselves, you can get undercut. But that only happens if you're playing on the same level. I'm not. I'm not swinging a mop or wiring up routers — I'm owning the paper."

The real game isn’t bidding on high-competition contracts against grinders like you. It’s:

Going after unbid micro-purchases, urgent requests, or low-visibility local set-asides

Stacking capability statements + teaming agreements with similarly situated SDVOSBs

Partnering with niche subs who can deliver at scale — while I manage the backend

You said yourself: guys like you do the work at 30% profit. That means the prime made 70%. I’ll happily let another vet do 100% of the work if he’s technically a sub and I stay compliant.

You think I’m "fucked"?
Nah — I’m in the owner’s box while you're on the field.
I’m not competing with you. I’m writing the check."

>>60529474
There's always funneling that small time extra cash into Airbnb investments. Between the 2 how could I not end up wealthy to make my narcissistic slut gf regretful?

>>60529478
so buy a business license for contracting in your name of choice. I don't incorporate, a single owner llc is the same as a DBA

Go on SAM.gov and register your entity. It's a huge questionnaire that you have to do every year. It takes about 1 hour if you're familiar with FAR, maybe a day if you have to read each page. It will direct you to SBA where you can add documents such as DD214 etc

Then Look for opportunities on SAM, you can filter for your location or veteran set-aside

bid on jobs. If you get one, set up and IPP account based on your PO or contract number.

Keep your SAM up to date. Keep your SBA up to date.

that's all. To actually sub you'll need to know other veterans or businesses that do the sort of work you bid on. Also to bid on work you need experience in the form of past contracts, but if your price is cheap enough that won't matter. You have to be able to do the work or pay someone to do it.

I made millions doing this after my ex left me for a wealthier man. Out of spite I made money just to show her I could.

but it's not easy. It's a full time fucking job and your disabled status doesn't actually count for much. Semper fi. Good luck

>>60529480
>>60529497
the other thing you need is insurance

just ask whoever does your car insurance. They can either sell you liability insurance for contracting or tell you who can

problem you have is you need to know what kind of contracts you're going to bid on before you get insurance. Insurance costs about $100 per month before you get contracts. After that it depends on how much money you're dealing with.

>>60529478
final bit of advice, you're going to have to pass background checks as a contractor.

so have a clean record, a good discharge, and a clean driving record. If you don't have those things don't bother. Find someone that does.

>>60529480
>how could I not end up wealthy to make my narcissistic slut gf regretful?
that's exactly how I became a millionaire and one of the largest contractors in my state.

carry on. Best of luck. Make that bitch sorry

>>60529480
I'll give you another bump

this isn't easy money. If you didn't score at least an 88 on the ASVAB you probably can't do the paperwork.

it's a ton of work. But yes, a smart veteran can make millions bidding jobs and subbing them. Lots of us have. But you have to catch up with those of us already doing it, and we're damn good at it.

>>60529514
half the work is winning the job

the other half is finding someone to do the actual work for what you bid

between these two tasks, 99% of contractors fail.

usually very quickly.

>>60529517
the easiest way to both win the work and find a sub is to call businesses ahead of time to find out what they would charge to do the contract, and then add AT LEAST 30% to their bid.

if you want to be safe on risk you double their bid, but then you risk losing the job

>>60529519
this however doesn't work when you're bidding against me because
1. I'm the company you're going to call to sub
and
2. I can underbid you

as chat said, I'm the one in the owners box.

>>60529497
Yes, I'll have to go for the cheap ones or whatever I can. I have experience with security/blue collar work so maybe that'll come in handy.

Also yeah it's great you pulled that off. A woman's coldness can ignite the greatest fires in a man.

>>60529503
I have countless unpaid red light tickets lmao

>>60529514
I got a fucking 55, Which was good enough to barely skip into the AF. So far im using chat gpt to help me register a new entity. I dont really need millions from a few extra grand is great for good enough for me. Ill see how far I can ride this pony. I'm not smart, im functioning with a 105 IQ here max. Give or take a few brain injuries.

>>60529504
Yes thank you for giving me the tools for vengeance.

>>60529578
>I have countless unpaid red light tickets lmao
you're good
>I got a fucking 55,
chat has your back

or hire someone to write your proposals, tons of companies do that.

>>60529583
best of luck bro. There are literal billions out there for you and me

>>60529411 (OP)
its funny how literally everyone in business, even wholesome chungus veteran blue collar guys, are just swimming in a sea of corruption and unearned parasitic rent seeking. Its actually so funny when you realize this as a guy in finance. at least were honest about it

>>60529592
You're just pissed off that lady luck didn't get moist for you. You know you'd do the same thing if you had the opportunity. I've hit a gold mine. Between this, Airbnb, and fitness influencing i could make bank. Soon I'll be busting loads in my busty japanese wife while drinking sake with her in an onsen without having to do any physical labor myself.

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>>60529592
????

I'm white collar, I employ other people to work

Unearned is bullshit, the veteran advantage is tiny. I compete globally with multi-billion dollar corporations and consistently win.

>>60529592
as I said, you're not going to get rich off the $30k or $60k in vet set-asides in any given town

You might as well be a woman or a pacific islander for all the government gibs

basically nothing. If you want to rent-seek in fed contracting you need to be smarter than the average Pareto and have some luck and balls.

but it's not corruption. You can bid against me and win 93% of the time. I'll beat you because I'm better, not because I'm a veteran

>>60529447
cool. get cgpt to build it bruh. youll be rich.