Recently come to the realisation that to achieve anything, any measure of success in finances, business, or any goal, you literally need to dedicate all day, months if not years on end, to that goal. And in many cases, like starting a business, financial success in not guaranteed .. ?

How do you guys even do this. Spent my twenties travelling the world, partying in Asia, working odd jobs in Australia and elsewhere just to fund my own adventure. Back at home now, and having never focused on a big goal, perhaps except building a good physique, I'm wondering how you even change your mind to find that enjoyable, and or is it even worth it.

When I look around me, like my friends in Corporate, everyone completely hates their lives and undergo humiliation rituals for £2000-£3000 pounds for an entire month of their time. It seems to me that it's only worth it to play the game if you're aiming for big prizes. What would you say to me ? Like the most logical thing for me would be to make money doing something you enjoy, or at least be able to travel and make money.

TLDR 26 Y/O Neet with no skills, small finances, living at home. Chose to travel world and considering getting rich, other paths etc.

>>60533831 (OP)
>Recently come to the realisation that to achieve anything, any measure of success in finances, business, or any goal, you literally need to dedicate all day, months if not years on end, to that goal.

Thats only half-true, and it depends on what you're doing.

90% of people on /biz/ would have been 1000X better off today if they simply held Bitcoin and played World of Warcraft, and gooned.

But 90% of /biz/ decided to "Work Hard" and "Study the Charts" and "Follow Crypto 18 hours a day" - putting all all that time, effort and dedication ----- all to mostly lose all their money, or have 90% less than they should have compared to if they had just bought, or kept their Bitcoin.

Sometimes in life, with some things, making 1 right decision, followed by doing literally nothing, pays off 1000X more than grinding away with hard work

>>60533831 (OP)
Yes to become rich you have to dedicate your life to it, shocker. Unless youre super lucky. I'd suggest aiming at a small scale business for perhaps less competition and a less soulless work enviroment. Would still potentially make you a few mill. I wont suggest any business ideas because i simply dont know. Good luck.

>>60533831 (OP)
Bro seems like you are spoiled as fuck not gonna lie. If you are actually serious about making big money which i doubt you are going to have to do something that works even if you dont like doing it. But you are not going to do that are you?

>>60533872
Yeah perhaps ? Depends what your goals are. My ocal people around me spent their 20s in an office, with no material outcome (Living in a shared room, paycheck to paycheck, but at a 'prestigious company'). In a sense I've travelled the whole world, had a blast, and now looking to understand a bit more to see where I should dedicate my time (which is precious).

>>60533892
If they are really living paycheck to paycheck living in a shared space i really wonder what they are spending all of that money on. Problem is these NPCs only spend their money on stupid things like expensive clothing, cars, traveling, partying or buying a house while they dont have the assets to pay for it and end up having to live like that because they spend the money they work for on things that do not generate revenue. If you are really serious about making money you should be willing to sacrifice a lot of that time and fun and save some of that for later of you know what im saying. Perhaps you could start by getting a stable stream of income and then use that money to start a business in a niche where there isnt a lot of competition. For example you could save up to buy equipment needed for a niche business etc.

>>60533843
That's a lot of words or "gambling".

>>60533831 (OP)
Seems like you lived a very fortunate life. I would say working a corporate job is exactly what it looks like. It’s soul crushing, useless shit that should be avoided if at all possible. Not something you needed to “experience” at all. Maybe work for a couple years if you have to gather capital to start your business.

You seem to have a high risk tolerance so I would just do that. See if you can start something.

>>60533831 (OP)
In yookay just scam benefits and keep not working. You’ll get more money than your buddies for just finding a random doctor to sign you off.

>>60533831 (OP)
If you spend your entire twenties on nothing your resume will look like a joke 30 years old it says worked at Starbucks 6 months “found myself “ now back home ready to work! I’m kidding

I think what this posts means is how do you commit to working hard when you may not get rewarded. I can’t answer that because I am a fool too. You might like this song by Pulp it’s called Common People, what does it mean to live your life without meaning or control, with no better place to go.

>>60534056
Thanks for the advice. Yeah, I'm thankful for the experiences I had, definitely something I'm very glad for. That's likely why I'm trying my best to figure out what it takes to 'make it' rather than do that kind of pointless corporate grind. I'm either going to be very well off or just enjoying my life somewhere in Asia, Spain etc. I don't see the point playing for no reward. As for the guy who said about scam benefits, I can definitely do this, but just doesn't sit morally right with me. But yeah you can literally take in £3000 a month from the government whilst people are working an entire month in a company for less.

>>60534001
Heh, exactly.
Crypto cultists refuse to understand that Bitcoin still has no other use than being a casino where every sucker is trying to sell to a bigger sucker.
And that people 10 years ago had around zero good reasons to buy into the crap.
It wasn't even supposed to be gambling when it was created.

>>60533831 (OP)
OP, no one has found the secret to big prizes.
What you are telling is a fine adventure, most young men cannot afford that and are too risk averse for that (for good reasons).
Corporate really is soul sucking for most.
The way to "unsuck" it is to have a reason to do it. And "big prizes" are not the best reason, because people usually fail at reaching them.
You have to be happy with smaller everyday things.
Easier said than done.

Trying to start a business may interest you like the other anon said. But make sure to have a plan B.

>>60533831 (OP)
do what you want.

I don't love my job but its a better solution than magic internet beans which 99.9% don't work. for 30 hours a week i get a nice life, house, wife, vacations, retirement savings, stuff to do all the shit i don't want to do. most anything I want short of lambos and second houses. most of life is weighing compromises. in a very real sense time and money are the same thing.

>>60534498
You must work a very high leverage job to get all those benefits from 30 hours a week, likely you are in America and in a perfect industry desu.

In the UK houses are a million pounds and people make 30k a year mostly. If they advance deep into their career, they make 100k a year, which after tax is about £4000 a month. (You'll be 35-40 when you reach this)

>>60533831 (OP)
>How do you guys even do this.
I came to the conclusion a long time ago that I will never be happy. It doesn’t matter if I make a billion dollars or live in a poor house. I will no matter what, be unhappy. But, I can live with myself knowing I tried, if I succeeded, then I move on to the next thing. Life isn’t a movie, it’s not a TikTok reel, it’s not a fucking woman’s fantasy. It’s a series of rug pulls, jeet scams, and stress. Embrace suffering.

>>60533831 (OP)
>Spent my twenties travelling the world, partying in Asia, working odd jobs in Australia and elsewhere just to fund my own adventure
>never focused on a big goal
>considering getting rich
>>60533892
>my time (which is precious).
people really are like this. you don't seem to have ever had a job, have worries about your life, health or anything. you are really lucky to have had such life... yet you are an entitled piece of shit
funnily enough, I bet you will actually become rich. because you will obviously not give a shit about anything or anyone other than yourself, and so will become greedy enough to just ignore any ethical/moral issue in your path just so you can make some more money.

>>60534664
But you can easily avoid jeet scams, just don't waste your time on crypto.
Also, men's fantasies are wild anyway.

>considering getting rich, other paths etc.
I can't tell if this question is real kek

Do you have any kind of aptitude at anything? Are you asking about jobs or businesses? You've not actually given any useful information about yourself. What do you mean by "rich"? Are you talking about having a high net worth or income? They're the same to some degree but it's much easier to get income flowing.

You can get money either by luck or doing something that other people will pay a lot for which means something that's difficult (i.e. other people can't or won't do it). If you can't do that then you should just do
>enjoying my life somewhere in Asia, Spain etc

>>60534518
>people make 30k a year mostly. If they advance deep into their career, they make 100k a year, which after tax is about £4000 a month. (You'll be 35-40 when you reach this)
This is meaningfully wrong desu. Firstly 100k net is £5730 per month take home. Play around with https://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php
Also the normgoloid median pay across all full-time workers is ~£37k.
You can do way better than this if you're intelligent and go into tech or finance. I don't know anyone from university in their mid 20s and up making less than 80k, with plenty making well beyond 100k in their 20s. Many are also fully remote although hybrid's more common.