Where do you store your seed phrase/account secret? Do you write it in a book, or store it in an actual safe?

>>60547994 (OP)
Carved into the bark of a tree.

>>60547999
Checked but what if someone chops it down?

>>60547994 (OP)
In my memory. I repeat it in my head every morning and night when I brush my teeth and before I fall asleep.

>>60547994 (OP)
I have .23 of bitcoin in my grandmas safety deposit. Paper wallet. Was 500$ investment and spare change from buying acid allegedly

there' a wallet that is a literal metal engraving
it's the top tier one because it will survive a housefire
safe deposit box also works

>>60547999
* someone randomly throws 1 galon of gasoline into the tree *

>>60547994 (OP)
We had that discussion today, my TLDR was that crypto is not ready for mass adoption.
Until then, it seems one could use some multisig mathematical witchcraft, distributed storage like unrelated banks in distant locations, and make it non-obvious that these are keys or seed phrases, by using some algorithm that can convert normal written text into seed phrases or private keys.

it's on an index card that i shoved inside my pc case

>>60548081
Or some HOG takes a liking to that tree, and scratches his back on that tree until the bark is gone.

>>60548087
You could cut a seed scar into your colon, but then you'd have to avoid colonoscopies, which is not recommended by health experts.

>>60548075
what happens if there is a fucking flood? that's my biggest fear

>>60548075
>>60547994 (OP)
I have a Shamir secret sharing 3 of 7 arrangement with seed phrases on cryptosteel tubes geographically distributed amongst safe deposit boxes and trusted friends.

Notes:
>This eliminates the wrench attack efficacy because now you literally have to try and hold me for days/weeks as you get to all of these people. You can of course kill me if you get mad about it, but that is true of literally anyone.
>No single event I can survive can destroy more than 4 keys
>No trusted friend knows where the other keys are and even if they did they have no greater loyalty to the other trusted friends than they do to me.
>Fire proof, flood proof, EMP proof
>Absolutely immune to a single point of failure

>>60548104
>trusted friends
Well that's a problem. They now know that you have money. So...if they are not rich, they are your mortal enemies. Even if they can not get to the keys, they will try to save their lives with your wealth once they get severely ill. This is the nature of a purely transactional society.

>>60548104
>friends with all of them on facebook
>sms logs talking about crypto
the nsa is about to punk you

>>60548104
And if one or two "trusted friends" decides to ask for a large cut of the pie the moment you come begging for the keys back?

>>60548015
What if you were to suffer a head (brain) injury and somehow forget it?

>>60548104
>trusted friend
Oof, I don't even trust my own relatives or myself. You're playing with fire.

>as a public post on Twitter/X

>>60548287
There's 7 pieces so I'd go get the other 5.

>>60548315
So you created 24 different accounts at random intervals and posted one word on each account?

>>60548294
What happens if you suffer a brain injury and forget where you stored it?

>>60548122
Try having richer friends

>>60548340
Don't store it somewhere too obscure to find

on a piece of paper

>>60548306
I only need to trust them enough not to collude with people they don't know and for enough to cough them up outside of the safe deposit boxes I do control

>>60548349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLG1ys2CGcI

>>60548344
But then what happens when someone finds it?

>>60548631
Rape them

shave your head and get it tattooed on the back of your head, find some dumb brownoid to do it who would have no idea what it is, say it's lyrics for your song or something

>>60548658
>say it's lyrics for your song or something
Tree poo pee fart shart cum bark shit piss wank fuck niggers
>"wow what a cool lyrics saar!"
>*proceeds to inject used HIV-ridden needle into your skin repeatedly*

>>60547994 (OP)
no i just remember it. it's easy to remember because it's the first 10 words to the song "Carry on my wayward son"

>>60547994 (OP)
Tattoo. Paid .05 BTC for it. Ive got 100+ in my cold wallet in my safe at my house in northern Phoenix.

>>60548631
Shamir secret, they get 0 funds without the others

>>60547994 (OP)
Ballpoint pen + needle prison tat on the inside of my foreskin.

I use two USB drives and a CD-R to store my keys offline as shown in the picture below

Tails 1 - Watch only wallet that creates transactions and broadcasts them, doesnt sign it
Tails 0 - Signs bitcoin transactions offline
CD-R - Stores encrypted gpg.txt file that uses a 22 character phrase obscured by Shamir's Secret Sharing key for 3 out of 5 signatures.
Paper - Share 1 out of 5.

I only sign bitcoin transactions using Tails 0 that will never connect to the internet physically. Tails 1 creates the transaction and broadcasts it with only a split second internet connection. I've made about 4 CD-Rs that are only allowed to be decrypted after you find atleast 3 out of the 5 shares. Tails 0 along with Tails 1 have separate 22 character SHA-256 passphrases that are required to unlock persistent storage on each USB drive. The passwords for those are also scattered elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tLoiLo5fT8


>I'm also destroying the USB drives tonight and replacing them with different ones. Usually these are located in a locked drive bay on an HP z640 that requires a key to unlock the side panel.

>>60548104
based.

>>60549202
seperate key is required to unlock the side panel of this thing. Without that youll have to physically saw the workstation open as shown on the side panel lever.

>>60547994 (OP)
On my safe box with my fiat as my emergency funds.

>>60547994 (OP)
ask your mom to push and you'll see my seed

>>60547994 (OP)
On Minecraft signs surrounded by traps

A safe plus a book is a good idea. You want to store it in multiple locations.
Don't have an overly complicated storage method, odds are greater you're gonna forget about it than some person stealing it, unless you have some shady roommate (in which case a deposit box is a good idea)

>>60548631
the odds are much greater that you're gonna throw it away accidentally and you'll be like that one nigga wandering through a landfill

>>60548104
the guys with elaborate storage mechanisms typically have less than a thousand dollars. they're just as bad as the silver stacktards