I just got professional pictures taken at a family wedding and I’m the ugliest guy there. That’s despite me having a low bodyfat and being in shape.

I can’t take it anymore. Nothing I do works, I’m a fucking 30 year old virgin. Fuck this life.

>>60549035 (OP)
Welcome to the club. Now go get rich so you can get plastic surgery.

>>60549035 (OP)

I'm a 31 year old virgin.

You're a virgin because of circumstances, not because you're ugly. You probably have standards that go beyond "if it has a pussy, fuck it" and you probably live/work in a more rural area, or don't socialize with the public often.

It's that simple.

Yeah, if you’re posting on 4chan that’s kind of a given. Not me though, I’m actually quite good looking. Sorry anon :/

>>60549037
>Now go get rich so you can get plastic surgery.
This. See picrel.

>>60549045
>You're a virgin because of circumstances, not because you're ugly.
Pure cope. If you're virgin at 25+, it means you're ugly af. Deal with it.

>>60549035 (OP)
You're not alone brother.

Society hates us just for existing in it because by our nature we remind them of their failure. All we can do is aim for generational wealth, so we can at least have the keys to our own happiness.

>>60549035 (OP)
Test-E + heavy lifting

You can be ugly and weak or you can be ugly and jacked. The decision is yours.

Most people start looking like shit in their 30s. Just wait a few years and you'll be another NPC looking dude. The bald + beard male with no personality.

>>60549035 (OP)
Beardmax

>>60549035 (OP)
Men should not be concerned about their attractiveness. That you are concerned shows how hyperfeminized and emasculated society and men have become.

>>60549051
he looked decent begin with. OP probably needs way more than a hair transplant and roids

>>60549035 (OP)
"You're the best looking guy in the room no matter what" - Donald Trump

>>60549104
I love that golden haired bastard

>>60549106
You love Zion Don? You got problems man

>>60549035 (OP)
Always considered myself ugly. But in school girls would always talk to me but I never did anything because I was too self conscious. I’ve overcame my shyness and have a lot of girls who are friends I’ve met in real life. They’ll text me occasionally out of the blue and will always respond back if I text them. But I still haven’t overcome my standards of pussy. Like I want the girl to be perfect or else I worry my life will be fucked over if I impregnate the wrong baby momma. I get girls striking up conversations with me in public from time to time as well.

Very spot on i can imagine, yours is near
When a boy hits age 35 (at the latest), his body starts to adopt. Every man is slightly varied, but speaking in wide generalities…
* His muscles get more stiff and tight.
* His endurance drops.
* His recovery takes longer.
* He gains body fat more easily.
* His cock starts to be less hard during sex.
* His cum starts to get less in volume
* His orgasm get less intense
* He starts to lose his hair (if he hasn’t already).
* His cum also start to taste and smell rotten.
* His teeth start looking fucked-up (crooked, yellow, weird spacing, etc).
* He starts growing hair in new fun places (inside his ears and nostrils, etc).
* His posture gets more hunched and he starts walking with a slight stoop.
* He can’t handle the same amount of drugs, alcohol, and/or food as he could when he was younger.
* His sleep suffers.
* his leg start to look fuckup with butter like muscle where, when he press it, it won’t bounce back in shape. And bunch of funny irregular veins growing left and right and look totally ugly.
* he also get a lot of strange urge in the leg where he want to scratch the skin so hard that it start to bleed yet he still feel like going on.
* Acne like red spots grow all over his limbs for no good reasons due to lower body defence against the atmosphere.

>>60549104

>>60549035 (OP)
>I’m ugly as fuck, man
but are you rich?

>>60549035 (OP)
Looks barely even matter for guys. Shut the fuck up, stop bitching, and get money

Anyone who is 30+ and still obsessed with their looks is pathetic. You should have enough money and status by now to make that irrelevant. Only brokie men care about how they look

>>60549161
This is an old mindset. Now that social media is a thing and plastic surgery is more advanced, rich people love to spend thousands just to make themselves hotter and post it for everyone to see.

>>60549177
Except plastic surgery makes you look like shit and again only women do that it’s not a thing non faggot men do

>>60549035 (OP)
>despite me having a low bodyfat and being in shape.
Lol post pics chubby

>>60549152
LITERALLY all of this can be fixed with Test-E

>>60549161
Bezos blasts
Musk got hair follicle implants
Zuckerberg dresses like a zoomer
All these guys have status and wealth so it obviously matters.

>>60549191
They literally hopped on Test-E and started lifting

>>60549161
Maybe like 10-15 years ago. Do you live under a fucking rock or are you a literal boomer?

>>60549177
>social media is a thing
This. Algorithms and dating apps have fried women's brains on what's considered normal or naturally achievable.

>>60549152

>>60549035 (OP)
>professional pictures taken
>ugly
I feel your pain.
Did this this winter only to find out I'm fatter and more pale than I thought. I look 90's fat. Also the way I buzz my beard to a stubble doesn't look as good as it did five or ten years ago. It just makes me look like a bum. I don't really want to do the full beard, but my chin's too weak and face too flabby to clean shave.
When my eyes don't look like I'm in pain, I look like a serial killer with stage 2 sanpaku eyes.

So yeah.. If you're getting your picture taken professionally, get a tan and get in shape first.

>>60549051

Lol, no it doesn't. The redpill and blackpill bullshit has dry-rotted whatever braincells most people had left in their heads.

He's a virgin because he is socially isolated (either by his job or where he lives), plus rarely approaching and interacting with other people (saying hello to a cashier isn't approaching). Combine that with not wanting a fat chick, he automatically reduces his options by 70%. Then combine that with wanting someone not on SSRIs, that reduces his options by another 7% - 10% (because over half of the SSRI users are probably also fat). Then combine that with wanting an actual long-term relationship with children and not just a casual fling, he just reduced his chances by another 10% - 15%.

If OP doesn't drink, or party much, he's effectively reduced to using online dating apps. He's now literally competing with thousands of men over a few women that actually meet his basic standards. There are no incels. That's just the way dating is today.

>>60549237
This is true for me.

>>60549231
If it makes you feel any better, most of the good photographers photoshop the shit out of their subjects. There's tools specifically made for warping and fixing these kinds of imperfections. If you cheaped out and got a lazy photographer or you weren't to main focus of the photos like in OPs case, it's possible you just weren't edited like the rest.

>>60549240

It's just math. That's all there is to it. If you have basic standards (don't be fat, on drugs, married, single-mother, or the town bicycle), then you have to compete with thousands of other men for a few local women (within a 50 mile radius).

Even if you're above-average in looks and status, you're still competing with hundreds of other above-average men for one woman. If she's simply not fat, she's automatically more attractive than 70% of other women (barring a major disfigurement), so she can pick whatever guy she feels like that day and there are thousands of other men constantly giving her attention.

>>60549035 (OP)
Have you tried being an ugly magician? its better than just being ugly.

>>60549285
Or an ugly rapist/serial killer. Women love that kind of thing OP. Infamy is fucking hot.

>>60549240
>no Latinas

Fag

>>60549035 (OP)
>I’m a fucking 30 year old virgin

literally how? Honestly. I hate to sound mean, but have you considered that you might just be really low testosterone or something? I was basically an incel in high school if you think that term can apply to people that young. Didn't get laid til halfway through 2nd semester of college, and not because I didn't try. Have had many years long dry spells in my life.

Anyway, before I got laid, I told myself if I turned 21 and was still a virgin that I would just go see a prostitute whether on Backpage.com (rip) or part of a vacation to Amsterdam or some country with semi legal prostitution and then have sex with a prostitute so I could say I'm not a virgin and I know what sex is like. Fwiw, even after losing my virginity, I ended up fucking some whores in Europe when I did a study abroad.

Yeah, they can be kinda nasty but that's what condoms are for, and sometimes they're decently hot and not expensive. Idk, when I was a young dude, and even now, my sexual drive was really strong, almost overwhelming. If I wouldn't have been able to have sex normally I would've just paid for it so I could still have sex and not be a virgin.

It's not a big deal, and a lot of women would actually be more attracted to a guy who ponied up and fucked whores rather than willingly remained a virgin into their 30s. It's like, if you're a virgin that long, it must mean you just didn't really want sex that much

>>60549346
>It's like, if you're a virgin that long, it must mean you just didn't really want sex that much
Some men value different things. Intimacy isn't for me.

>>60549337
They're usually psycho -- and have you ever seen one who was 5'7"+?

>>60549346
>literally how?

Standards
Personality traits
Location

I've already explained it ITT. Not everything breaks down to "Muh low-T!" or "You're just ugly bro!"

Even in your own post you admit you would fuck a nasty whore and pay cash for it if necessary.

Also, women can't tell if you're a virgin, pheromones don't exist in humans and an objective definition for hypergamy doesn't exist because most women base their actions on emotions and short-term pleasures (just like most men).

>>60549372
>pheromones don't exist in humans
I was with you up until here...

>>60549373

https://theconversation.com/theres-no-evidence-human-pheromones-exist-no-matter-what-you-find-for-sale-online-38318

https://www.healthline.com/health/pheromones#takeaway

>>60549373
>>60549396
But what about anheromones?

>>60549035 (OP)
If it helps any, I'm a 37 year old virgin. I'm a manlet with a small dick (barely 5') so self improvement for me is completely irrelevant. Had a nice body and a nice face when younger, co-workers use to call me Tom Cruise but no confidence because I feel deformed due to height/dick size. Basically just turned 18 and said whelp I'm fucked and gave up.

>>60549431
>I'm a 37 year old virgin
Very based

>>60549431
Do you feel anxiety about everything you've missed or are you in peace with it?

>>60549120
you are brown lol

>>60549453
Denounce the Torah and write "G0d"

>>60549436
Yes a little but I remind myself that I am basically deformed in the eyes of women so I never had a horse in the race. Even if I got a girlfriend, I would be constantly tested by other men because of my height in public and paranoid about her cheating on me because of my dick size so really there is relief in not having to worry about that shit as single guy.

>>60549045
Wrong. Looks matter the most.

>>60549161
This is so comically wrong

>>60549352
>Some men value different things. Intimacy isn't for me.

sure, but that's probably due to hormonal factors like having low testosterone. Normal healthy men want to fuck

>>60549372
>Even in your own post you admit you would fuck a nasty whore and pay cash for it if necessary.

the sad truth is, once you've had a gf, even one who is a decent woman, you realize that most women are "nasty whores". Your idealized virgin or near virgin-tier waifu isn't really that much better than a common street whore

Either way, that's something I only did a few times in Europe, but, then again that's also because especially in my 20s, I was capable of getting laid from time to time, even if it was with chubby chicks. Pussy is pussy. If was never able to pull real bitches, I would simply resort to occasionally getting a prostitute. Having actual sex is different from jacking off, and numerous scientific studies confirm the health benefits. Fucking prostitutes is literally healthier for your body (assuming no STDs) than remaining a virgin whether jacking off frequently or doing nofap

>>60549177
Any man who gets plastic surgery might as well just troon out. You've hit rock bottom and you're never coming back. Imagine telling a girl you got plastic surgery to look as good as you do. She will dry up immediately. No woman wants a gay ass dude like that

>>60549543
>Normal healthy men
Remember where you are nigger

>>60549535

Lol, no. It's a combination of factors. Simple arguments like yours only appeal to simple-minded people. You're just parroting blackpill garbage, while literally having 0 evidence to support your claims.
>but that one okcupid and tinder study from a decade ago!!!
You mean a dating app with 0 personal interaction that only focuses on your pictures? And people base their swipes on looks??? No way!? I'm shocked...

>Your idealized virgin or near virgin-tier waifu isn't really that much better than a common street whore
Again, this is purely made-up bullshit. Please site where I said anything about dating "virgin waifus".
I gave a reasonable explanation to why someone could be good-looking and successful, but still struggle with sex and relationships because of personality traits, standards, circumstances like their job and where they live, mental illness, etc.

Again, you just sound like a fresh & fit, Rich Cooper retard. You're incapable of nuanced thinking.

Btw, hypergamy isn't real and has been debunked by actual evolutionary psychologists. The redpill/blackpill retards use it as a catch-all term which renders it meaningless.
Oh, your gf cheated on you with a guy that had more money? Hypergamy!
Oh, your gf cheated on you for a broke, but hot guy? Hypergamy!
Oh, your gf cheated on you with a broke, ugly guy? Hypergamy!

>>60549561
4chan is full of men with healthy testosterone levels and that's how it's been since the beginning. It's why there are numerous boards dedicated to pornography

>>60549035 (OP)
Have sex incel.

>>60549240
Holy fuck its over. Investing in robot sex dolls.

>>60549576
>Your idealized virgin or near virgin-tier
date 18 year olds. I'm in my 30s and my gf is 18

Could be worse, guy i work with is 38 a bit awkward but he's in shape and looks fine. We've got got jobs and push like 200k a year but he's never had a kiss before. I think it's his awkward Christianess.