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Anonymous ID: PsUcLb5A
6/30/2025, 9:45:13 PM No.60565663
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How do shitty and incompetent people constantly get put in charge?
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Anonymous ID: IwSDsD5U
6/30/2025, 9:47:50 PM No.60565674
>>60565663 (OP)
Intelligent people know the world is fundamentally shit and don't have the care or energy to bother climbing "le corporate ladder"
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Anonymous ID: gvDw3y/O
6/30/2025, 10:04:59 PM No.60565792
because shitty and incompetent people put them there
the electorate loves to blame government but forget they're the same fucking idiots who vote for them
Anonymous ID: +fWY0OmP
6/30/2025, 10:06:06 PM No.60565801
>>60565663 (OP)
it's not about what you know, it's about who you blow. welcome to the real world, lil nigger.
Anonymous ID: 0F0JNKqX
6/30/2025, 10:11:25 PM No.60565824
>>60565663 (OP)
>The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another.[1][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle
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Anonymous ID: oHn7GJkh
6/30/2025, 10:39:54 PM No.60565944
>>60565824
See but then people get mad any time someone hires outside managers instead of promotions
Anonymous ID: dIQgauG3
6/30/2025, 10:44:31 PM No.60565960
>>60565824
people should get paid/raises on performance in their job/field, but instead you have to get promoted for higher pay in most industries so this is the result.
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Anonymous ID: tTkaYix1
6/30/2025, 10:54:22 PM No.60565996
>>60565663 (OP)
I want them replaced by a bloodthirsty AI, hopefully with big boobs.
Anonymous ID: h7Z10G4E
6/30/2025, 10:58:52 PM No.60566010
>>60565663 (OP)
organizations are interested in preserving themselves more than they are interested in accomplishing their stated goals. people get put in charge when they are in alignment with this.

the answer is to not work in organizations.
Anonymous ID: T+Yu3dIw
6/30/2025, 10:59:48 PM No.60566016
>>60565674
>Intelligent people know the world is fundamentally beautiful and touch grass under the blue skye in the sun
Ftfy
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Anonymous ID: B4gUm8hj
6/30/2025, 11:25:29 PM No.60566129
>>60565960
>people should get paid/raises on performance in their job/field
That is unfeasible with the amount of sheer incompetence. The entire social structure would collapse.
Anonymous ID: dZ5Jb26f
7/1/2025, 12:49:51 AM No.60566404
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>>60565663 (OP)
90% of the human race are superfluous meat. The complexity of our modern systems has resulted in a supply and demand problem. The supply being competent & capable people who resemble something more than a mere animal. Demand is much much higher than supply. And so our systems make do with what they can get.
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Anonymous ID: E5Vrv+lD
7/1/2025, 4:03:20 PM No.60568249
>>60565674
absolutely this
same reason politicians are retarded
Anonymous ID: W3gOnq5G
7/1/2025, 4:08:38 PM No.60568270
>>60565663 (OP)
Peter principle + psychopaths. This is the consequence of removing blood right
Anonymous ID: 6tCkBzt4
7/1/2025, 7:28:53 PM No.60569038
>>60566404
I know you think you and your family are part of the safe elite, but since you don't make the rules you are most likely going into the wood chipper. You should be OK with that though since we need to reduce the surplus population.
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Anonymous ID: N5PvSrsK
7/1/2025, 7:54:17 PM No.60569120
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>>60565663 (OP)
Getting promoted is about relationship building with those who have the power to pull you up. Competence is just one factor in likeability, it can even work against you if those above find your competence obnoxious or threatening.

If those above don't trust or like you, you aren't going to be pulled up. Showing leadership qualities helps, but again that reads more into likeability, and the ability to hold the line and status quo in favor of the person above you. The person with the power to promote wants to put someone in power that they believe will strengthen or protect their own power. This is a complex gut feel, social capital weighing exercise done subconsciously.
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Anonymous ID: ihN3jIC9
7/1/2025, 9:06:39 PM No.60569391
>>60569120
Knowing the correct dicks to suck, in other words, and for how long. Your post articulates something many of us already know, but I wonder if this is the reason for the growing competency crisis in the West. Every underling raised up above the rabble is a tiny bit (or greatly) less competent than their benefactor. Repeat that for a couple of generations and you've got the modern world.
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Anonymous ID: dZ5Jb26f
7/1/2025, 10:17:52 PM No.60569655
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>>60569038
I'm not even close to what you would call an "elite". My family certainly aren't. Lets just say I'm the black sheep in the family and leave it at that. Wealth is an insulator if nothing else. I'm aiming to become a multimillionaire so I can insulate myself and the people I care about from the gradual "winding down" of earths surplus human population. I topped out at nearly 250k around 2021. I have every intention of living long enough to see the future. If I thought myself a member of the "safe elite" I certainly wouldn't be wasting my time on this forum talking to you.
Anonymous ID: DEcF/DOg
7/1/2025, 10:29:29 PM No.60569699
>>60565674
>>60566016
Its both
Anonymous ID: ujHpzt65
7/2/2025, 12:09:08 AM No.60570079
>>60565663 (OP)
I'd wager it's because almost nothing is safe from the backwards "social" game that intelligent people usually don't give a shit about or even hate. Looks, likability, immediate pleasure vs long term gratification and ego tripping all dominate the world.
>>60569120
What this anon said.
>>60569391
This is likely the dynamic for every nation throughout history. From retarded wars and public policy all the way to messy divorces due to poor partner selection. All you can do is be the change you want to see or simply accept the vicious cycle of mankind and look after yourself. Intelligent people are probably driven half mad trying to deal with all of the bullshit.
Anonymous ID: zxNR27V+
7/2/2025, 12:11:37 AM No.60570086
Smart and conscientious people aren't willing to scam and manipulate, which are the primary "skills" of management.
Anonymous ID: 4HA6VAEE
7/2/2025, 12:15:07 AM No.60570097
>>60565663 (OP)
Incompetence focuses on social manipulation instead of competence.

They are quite competent at manipulating you.
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Anonymous ID: 4HA6VAEE
7/2/2025, 12:17:55 AM No.60570110
>>60570097
Use this post as example of competence.

Oh how much it hurts to be told that you are easy to manipulate. A competant person would tell you a truth like this. However an incompetant person would not, they would focus on social manipulation tricks which make you feel good but damage the business.

They would say something like:
Oh sometimes these things happen, next time it won't happen. <competant person (competition)> was in charge of <specific task>
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Anonymous ID: 4HA6VAEE
7/2/2025, 12:19:10 AM No.60570116
>>60570097
>>60570110
And just like that you have competent person lose job because you were upset you lost money and because they were in charge of specific task loosely related to the task.

Now you're in freefall.

Fire everybody.
Anonymous ID: 4HA6VAEE
7/2/2025, 12:20:11 AM No.60570125
The good news now is that there is no good management and that you can fire everyone without consequences. What are they going to do? Complain to another incompetent person? Nothing will go through.
Anonymous ID: ihN3jIC9
7/2/2025, 1:02:53 AM No.60570258
I have been considering how a society might proof against this competency decline. And I think it only works with some kind of ai overlord (powered by chainlink). Even then it's potentially open to abuse
Anonymous ID: eV2K0Mgj
7/2/2025, 9:14:07 AM No.60571224
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>>60565663 (OP)
It's because their parents, instead of looking for someone as efficient or even better than them, prefer to give those jobs to their retarded children, while I save money with snibbu and beg a mcdonald's employer to let me clean the bathroom
Anonymous ID: z5pBqDxt
7/2/2025, 9:15:41 AM No.60571229
>>60565663 (OP)
its not what you know its who you know