Why do newer generations always expect a handout? She chose to go to college

>>60566480 (OP)
Knee pads are no longer fashionable.

Student loans were a mistake

It was better when they knew they were retards

why do parents want their own kids to suffer?

>>60566491
This guy. Your parents arent there to subsidize your partying lifestyle

>>60566491
Because it builds character. But boomers are too retarded to understand that things are very different now than they were when they were young, and that there is a difference between character-building and perpetual debt-slavery.

>>60566480 (OP)
I wonder if putting millions of young americans under bondage and then sending them to left wing indoctrination camps will have bad repercussions.

>>60566491
I don’t get this either. My dad is a huge “muh bootstraps” chud but even he realized that paying for me & my brother’s college would set us 20 steps ahead of all of our peers and was a generous and good thing to do.

>>60566497
Yeah we should send them to Israel instead as free labor on jewish plantations like you hicks, that builds character.

>>60566480 (OP)
Because older generations should and might still be culled by this point and would have been during any other time in history. Most people shouldn't have even had kids but ended up doing so because of ego reasons but don't want to suffer the consequences of doing so. They're not even getting what they deserve but they're still crying.

>>60566480 (OP)
This. When I turned 18 my parents wished me well as they kicked me out of the house. I paid my own way through college, made my own life with my own hands because that's what adults do.
>>60566496
>things are very different now
The only thing that is different is the younger generations are whinier and more self-entitled. I blame their parents for not beating them enough when they were children.

>>60566488
I don't think student loans was a mistake.. the issue is that too many are going to higher education.
When you went to High School, clearly some kids where smarter than others, some where more ambitious and diligent than others.
historically you would send the best 10% of a class to college, now we are looking at +30-40%. That is a lot of mediocre people, spending a lot of money to get a degree.. but they don't have the abilities to get the reward for that money spend, instead they actually have mis-educated themselves, like a blind person studying "communication through visual media". It's actual negative education, because the tools you have learned to adept to your ineptitude will be transferable to other jobs. You have a degree in coping with your incompetence, and that is the skillset you are hitting the job market with.

>>60566491
regardless of whatever boomer rhetoric permeates the internet, you should teach your kids to work hard and not complain like faggots.

if you aren't teaching and demonstrating restraint and discipline to your sons, you're sabotaging them. i think because we all fail in this department we're embarrassed to look like hypocrites, but values need to be instilled regardless. boomers have a simpler understanding of things in that way and they really don't understand your hostility to something that would objectively be of value to you if you weren't so eager to stomp your feet and give up.

some boomers are just arrogant assholes, and there are things they'll never understand, but you should pity them for that and not want to drag them into your own darkness. if you were purely as cynical as you pretend to be, you'd smile and nod and see them as a resource to exploit, but you have a chip on your shoulder because it's actually daddy issues. someone had to tell you, sorry.

>>60566589
On the whole, boomers also cannot understand how much less a dollar is worth these days.
In similar fashion, we'll be dumbfounded in our older years that 'bennies' won't be the show stopper it once was

>>60566480 (OP)
>our daughter, 21..
>she's graduated with $90K in student loans.
Okay.. are they talking about when they refused to loan her the money, or the age she currently is when she graduated with the debt?
Because that is an insane amount ff debt for a 21 year old.

Well, they saved money and the cost of that is now their daughter resents them.
The alternative was spending money, and maybe the daughter is grateful, maybe not, but she wouldn't resent them for it.
Boohoo more boomers upset that actions have consequences.

>>60566491
They don't understand. It was easy for them so they think it's easy for everyone.
>have you tried asking for a job?

>>60566491
Might be Jewish culture. My parents are still financing me and I'm 42 years old with my own savings and kids. I'm Chinese though.

>>60566583
The price of student loans is asinine. No school should cost more than 20k for tuition for all four years. All of the undergraduate information is available online for free and the teachers don't make any difference. We should end all federal loans and subsidies for higher education. It's a failed experiment and the government clearly won't regulate the industry enough for it to ever be a net positive for the students and tax payers. Trump was right that it's better to just get rid of all the shit because it can't ever be fixed.

>>60566581
>The only thing that is different is the younger generations are whinier and more self-entitled.

Inflation is far higher than it was before.

>>60566656
Yeah it dawned on me moments after i made that post (>>60566623)
That it doesn't quite make sense the debt and age.
She must have been ~$50K in debt while still a technical teenager. That is a lot of money for most people, would take years, if not decades to payback with a median job.

>>60566583
>>60566656
Easy money where anyone and everyone gets a .gov subsidized loan is/was a huge contributing factor to the increased price of education.

>>60566480 (OP)
thats just the result of bad parenting

>>60566682
>1.6% inflation is far higher than 18.13% inflation
How about you go be stupid someplace else?

>>60566491
Because fuck em, thats why

>>60566623
Maybe she went $90K into debt for an associate's degree.

>>60566802
>(you)

>>60566491
because it's fun

>>60566480 (OP)

My parents refused to pay for my college and bought themselves an $80,000 truck when I moved out. I haven't talked to them in 10 years.

I hope my son isnt gay enough to want to go to college.

>>60566480 (OP)
have a new kid. Give up on this one. Wipe out that 90k debt with default.

>>60566480 (OP)
College education should be free. Otherwise your country will just need to outsource.

Both my wife and I each have masters and ended up in 80k if student loan debt a piece. If it wasn't for the 2017 run I would of already roped. We lived poorly for 8 years trying to pay it off quickly once we realized how much of a scam it it. Also IBR is another scam, they don't tell you your debt compounds every quarter, we did the match and by IBR we would of ended up paying 3x more if we went the the entire route on it. Also let's say you do IBR for full term, once your loan is waived you will be greeted by a massive IRS bill as forgiven loans count as income essentially keeping you in more of a debt spiral. The realization of this crushed me over the years and honestly still haven't gotten over how much we struggled.

Uni in my country costs €2.3k a year, and that's expensive compared to neighboring countries. American universities are a huge scam because like everything it got turned into a money making machine.
>college can be paid with a summer job
>tuition is raised
>gov lets people borrow the difference
>colleges smell free money, raise tuition again
>students borrow more
>ad infinitum
Now you end up with a degree costing $100k just so universities can spend ridiculous sums of money on vanity projects and to line their own pockets. Burn it down and start over.

>>60567046
Defaulting makes the situation 10x worse cause they will raise interest on you. I had a fren say fuck it and now his wages are garnished with a damn near 15% interest rate he is fucked for life. Can't default, can't declare bankruptcy and after garnishment if you still don't pay, they will send the swat team on your ass, look it up.

>>60567755
>American universities are a huge scam because like everything it got turned into a money making machine.
this
im actually wondering why won't muricans just go study somewhere in europe and then come back?

>well off
>Can't "afford" to put daughter through uni
How is that well off?

>>60566491
They don't want kids but they have them. My sister is already doing this, she has two kids and absolutely does not need to work but she continues anyways because she needs a break from the kids. Like do you want them or not? I don't and I don't have any. The only way I would procreate on this planet is if I find a stay at home mom (I won't)

>>60566480 (OP)
why do the older generations bring children into the world just to make them suffer

>>60567782
because no one stands up to them with lynchings.

>>60567782
It's unironically the best time to be born

1. The internet exists
2.ai porn will be 10x better in 15 years

Not having kids is robbing a soul of a 10/10 childhood

>>60567736
>Otherwise
Why not both?

>>60566480 (OP)
Good, college is a huge waste of money that just goes to jews

>>60566480 (OP)
>90k
>didn't get grants and scholarships
I worked a bit through college and my mom did help out, but ultimately all that grant and scholarship money paid off most of it. Are zoomers that cucked?

>>60566491
Literally just americans kick their kids out at 18 with no experience and no money. Americans are fucking retarded. I stayed home until 25, worked full time, paid no rent, saved all my money and invested it, now I'm 31 and a multi-millionaire with a 25 year old wife and second child on the way. My parents loved my siblings and I, and did everything they could to allow us to flourish. Why are americans so retarded?