economically speaking, how can we solve the problem of every single thing we eat being produced and transported using nonrenewable energy (oil and coal)

>>60566532 (OP)
oil is renewable is comes from hell and seeps upward

>>60566532 (OP)
By levying astronomical taxes on it.

>>60566532 (OP)
By bombing china

>>60566546
Right so only the rich affluent can afford it while normal people are forced to eat lab grown meat

Fuck off

>>60566532 (OP)
Fission plants en mass

Also there's fuckloads more oil. Every time a tard calls the top, the free hand digs a little more.

>>60566546
this
poor people deserve to live like peasants while the rich are allowed to live like kings

>>60566550
Dumb nigger he asked a question and I answered it. Another way is to go back in time to bomb your whore mother before she's spawns your ass but that isn't quite as tenable.

>>60566532 (OP)
Look up Abiogenesis. Hydrocarbons are renewable.

>>60566532 (OP)
tokenization

not a joke I'm doing it right now fuck the USDA
no taxes on meat

>>60566569
he's right faggot retard
taxes won't solve the problem, it will just gatekeep quality of life from the poor

>>60566552
It'd be retarded for oil companies to say
>we have oil in perpetuity
>wipe out oil futures
>everybody else profits

>>60566532 (OP)
almost as retarded as thinking we've even tapped half the ways possible to extract it. Oil isn't going anywhere fag, so suck my tailpipe. Your fancy RC car got one of them?

>>60566532 (OP)
Don't care. Fuck this planet and fuck Earth. Carbon Emissions are based and I hope Climate Change is real and its extremely painful for this gay ass planet, it couldn't have happened to a more deserving place. I'm more concerned about inflation and why the slop in your pic related now costs $30 for mediocre trash. That is way more important than caring about "muh nature" or this retarded fag planet that deserves everything bad that happens to it anyways. Earth and Earth simps can suck my dick and so can McDonalds.

Start a garden and learn to hunt. You won't be able to eat absolutely anything you ever want but then you won't have to spend money on food if you don't want to.

>>60566569
Did your mother also tell you growing up that there are no wrong answers in life?

Oil scarcity is a lie.

>>60566593
my mom told me i was handsome.

>>60566580
>>60566593
There's a difference between answering OP's question and my personal opinion and whether I even think it's a problem needing to be solved in the first place. Brainlets need to fuck off back to /pol/ containment.

>>60566643
OP asked how to solve and your answer doesn't solve it retard

>>60566651
Anon, driving up the price for oil and coal reduces it's demand and use by and for the vast majority of people including me. Genociding most of everyone including me also solves it. Stop being retarded.

>>60566667
demand for energy is inelastic retard
rich people don't care how much you tax their private jet's fuel

>>60566532 (OP)

>>60566684
>demand for energy is inelastic retard
To a certain extent. Every single thing we eat being produced and transported using nonrenewable energy (oil and coal) would no longer be the case if their extraction, transport and use were astronomically taxed; especially with the added threat of execution by the state if said taxes were found to be not paid. Fag.

>>60566532 (OP)
At this point I'm starting to believe the people that say oil is produced by the earth and is not from decayed matter. We were supposed to hit peak oil already but I don't really see any cause for alarm.

>>60566704
Okay, so what are the farmers going to use if their tractors use diesel fuel?

>inb4 switch to an electric tractor

>>60566690

>>60566532 (OP)
It's literally not a problem. We will run out of a million other resources before we even come close to seeing oil and coal run out. The fact you believe it is a problem is proof you lack basic critical thinking abilities and simply repeat what you heard. Your manipulation is useful to further globalist agendas.

>>60566709
>Okay, so what are the farmers going to use if their tractors use diesel fuel?
reading comprehension

>>60566705
its still cheap because the future will pay for it.

As for peak oil.....as a geologist, i wonder why its a race to find it and purchase land rights to it.....as a humanitarian, i wonder if they'll even bother to tell us when we hit peak.

>>60566726
other than being argumentative, can you care to elaborate who we'll never come close to seeing oil/coal run out.

Earth IS a finite closed system. True we as humans are each a virus in the body of a blue whale, but soon enough, it can snowball and the whale is kaputt. Lets say we have 1000 years of oil, then i ask, when do we start rationing? Pray tell me wise anon.

>>60566736
So then you really dont have a solution. Just tax everything. Nice deflection, did you also learn that from your mother? Youre pretty much acting like her

>>60566757
Microwave pyrolysis allows you to convert most petroleum based products back into a form of crude oil like substance. We have a waste problem, not a supply one.

>>60566772

Problem 1: basic paper recycling is too complex for burgers, now we're recycling petroleum products as well? Paradigm shift needed, why not just reduce dependency? Fix the disease don't ease a symptom.

Problem 2: corporations and all international entities have to recycle EVERY petroleum product that is made. Medical, food, container etc etc. Each country with different invested interests in this..Fuel when spent is spent, which for arguments sake is 50% of all petroleum based products, great we slowed down the end 50%.

Problem 3: Still adding Carbon to atmosphere, again as I said, Earth is a closed system, with a limit of resources and a balance that allows life, recycling some wont prevent eh byproduct greenhouses gasses from initial refinement to go away.

>>60566705
The planet earth is a living organism and oil is her blood. We are surface parasites.

>>60566812
The problem lies in fact that companies lie about how recyclable their plastic is. If youre able to convert waste plastic back into fuel, it atleast removes phsyical trash into landfills.

Lithium mining also adds massive amounts of carbon into our atmosphere along with metals leaching into the ground and runway water. There are no free dinners.

What i would propose is the government finally mandating it into law a common enterprise plastic that is easily convertible into fuel and easily recyclable. That will remove over 50% of the waste there. Every alternative to petroleum based products have been laced with PFAs like paper straws. Were really fucked either way


>tl;dr force companies to only use types of plastics that can be converted to fuel instead of waste. Removing the need to perpetually drill for more oil

>>60566532 (OP)
National Socialism and the death of globalism

>>60566841
yes, in an ideal world the venom is never fatal.

Grow your own food. Carry it by hand to the dinner table.

>>60566532 (OP)
Solar can only turn street lights on at night. Trump was right to give EV and solarfag IRA subsidies the boot and focus on competing with China's expanding nuclear energy market. The EV and solar power market needs to be MARKET driven, not enforced or mandated by the government. If Gavin Newsom was president, the green energy surplus, banning oil production and fracking would make us China's bitch times 10. China is already domineering the EV market and climate change is costing them $2 billion a year, so money talks. Governments like China and the US want cleaner energy but this shit has to be both market-driven and carefully thought-out, not all mandated in an instant. This would cost waaay more than the 800,000 jobs Musk is bitching about Trump's bill

>>60566532 (OP)
It's not a problem. Humans are literally put on this earth to get the carbon out of the ground and put it in the atmosphere.

>>60566532 (OP)
Nuclear but the expansion of energy usage we are about to see hydrocarbon usage will stay flat at best its definitely not going down, solar and wind are memes a friend of mine is working on the offshore wind farms off Virginia it is the most retarded thing I've ever heard and that's not hyperbole the amount energy and money going into putting those things it's going to take decades to be carbon neutral all that time and money would be better spent making carbon capture better 1000 fold

>>60566532 (OP)
economically speaking, stop making everything an issue

There is no such thing as non renewable energy, see law of thermodynamics

>>60566532 (OP)
Using oil and coal is not a problem. There, solved it for you.

>>60566954
you're an absolute retard.

>>60567872
Fuck you, Elon lol

>>60566757
>True we as humans are each a virus in the body of a blue whale, but soon enough, it can snowball and the whale is kaputt.
This is the exact type of mentality globalists put into the minds of people, and not only do they fall for it, but they believe that they are morally above others that don't believe the same. Greta Thunberg is a prime example of someone who has been completely brainwashed from childhood to promote this worldview. If we were to actually think about the fact that Al Gore was responsible for most of the modern green movement that has been so widely adopted by the European government and pushed onto kids from the age they are able to speak, you'd definitely be apprehensive towards it. But as there is no context provided to anyone and it is taught to be an absolute fact, Al Gore not even being mentioned, people are far more willing to take it in. If people had an idea of the fact that Al Gore was largely responsible for this entire modern thinking in terms of being carbon-neutral, it'd be far harder to sell to people. But nobody ever mentions that. Environmentalists are nuts.

>>60566532 (OP)
Subsidize technological development of alternatives

>>60568189
Yeah you can easily see from google trends that documentary kick-started the whole global warming thing. Obviously that was just a piece of a much larger global strategy but probably most students in the west got shown that documentary. When my sister had to review a documentary that had a "social impact" for school I got her to do that one because it is objectively a documentary that had an enormous social impact but the impact has been so thorough people today don't even realise. Everyone else was doing it about women, gays, or blacks. Everything at school is brainwashing and it's turned to 11 these days and all the teachers are true believers.

Also Greta is based because the core of her message is that people are evil hypocrites. Listen to her speeches carefully. She's right.

why? we don't need to and if we do the market will do it for us. its not complicated.

>Fossil fuel
Lmao.