>have scientific idea that nobody thought of
>would eat up 50+% of the current market in that field because they never evolved past 1980s
>do a simple prototype simulation on computer
>show to professor on college
>"why don't my students fucking come up with anything? I have to push my doctorates to do something yet YOU come up to me with this"
>ghosts me further
>contact local incubator
>sets me up with another professor
>they are flabbergasted and give me 4 books on the topic
>incubator wants more confirmation and calls up another professor from out of town to weigh in
>in talks for patent with patent office
>it will take 5+ years to develop
>it will cost upwards of millions of dollars to develop
>I barely have knowledge to make it through in entirety on my own

I think I have bitten off more than I can chew off sirs
I have tech knowledge, but scientific knowledge is little

Does anyone have really good books and stuff on startups, tech startups, financing and shit like that?
I think hiring wouldn't be an issue as I have done my fair share of those (both looking for job and did hiring for other companies) and I know the local scene very well

Use chat gpt, seriously might help. Also crowdfunding?

>>60574817 (OP)
if your college doesn't suck they should have something like Manchester's Innovation Factory program for helping you with all this shit, it's very very difficult otherwise even if you are a PHD at the uni

>>60574817 (OP)
When you signed that paper at the beginning of your term, most universities sneak in a clause where any IP you generate becomes de facto property of the university.
If you're American then you're doing all the legwork for something they will steal from you if it becomes viable.

>>60574817 (OP)
and today you learned that the issue for many if not a vast majority isnt lack of a decent idea, but the tools to execute it (mostly financial tools)

>>60574823
>crowdfunding
hmmm people will not like the idea, considering current socioeconomic climate
I am thinking either I open a branch of someone elses companies R&D, present it as cheaper and have patent always on my name, or go from 0 and try to build it by selling pieces of it

>>60574824
lmao no, professors here are fucking beurocratic slugs that don't care about anything but tenure and if they can get something from you
the professor that was first actually was good because he didn't steal my idea

>>60574826
I am not in uni currently, I just went to the professor directly

Just sell your idea to some VC fag and smoke weed all day

>>60574832
I could scrape by with probably like 500k $ in funding and the timeline would be tight, but the whole plan I have in the head feels daunting and I have no mental tools at my disposal on the business side of things

On the tech, programming and management I am better than average, but I am seriously reconsidering having a business partner that is heavy on business logistics

>>60574844
its a cutthroad, dog eat dog world, sadly, good odds either you will not get your funding, or someone will steal your idea in the process of you talking to the people you think might be the right candidates. i am not trying to discourage you, i am just saying that a barrier like this is an issue for many people and i estimate 90% of people with great ideas do not get to execute them due to financial reasons. i hope you find a way to make yours happen. godspeed, genuinely

>>60574853
cutthroat*

>>60574853
well thanks man, do you have any books or lectures you can give to me for the topics of startups and business?

>>60574861
I don't think a book is going to help you here, if this is a million dollar idea isn't it worth getting an MBA somewhere? You should get knowledge and connections

>>60574861
can you give a hint as to what it is, like what industry, would be interesting to see it coming in the headlines if it's as game-changing as you say for an entire industry
don't tip your hand, but give us enough to know to invest when we can

>>60574817 (OP)
Does a prototype really cost millions of dollars and years to develop? You can just make a cheap version and find some venture capitalists with too much money on their hands.

>>60574861
yes: they are all bullshit. commonly found information will not give you an edge. everyone i know who tried to succeed doing that has failed. if its so easily available information everyone knows it. the true edge in a business lies in knowing stuff little or no other people know. otherwise its just grinding water. basically, if you are dumb or average there is no hope, if you are smart you can do your own research. try to think of new angles. i have edges in my fields and that is why i am succesful at them, but i never graduated school. knowledge IS power. but the shit they teach you at school is not real knowledge. real knowledge in the edge you get in a field is self-learned, or at best you get some secrets on the field from a person who really trusts you

>>60574817 (OP)
>>in talks for patent with patent office
>>it will take 5+ years to develop
why do you even need a prototype to patent something?

>>60574889
maybe this is true for some things, but if your idea is in something like biotech you're literally never going to make it in a million years without schooling, either yours or borrowed from someone else you've got on side

>>60574817 (OP)
this is when you hire a partner, do extensive screening, and you're lucky because there's a big pool rn

>>60574887
oh, and one more tip, consider that you can probably reserve the concept for about 10 years without creating an actual prototype. the prototype pattent is for decades i believe but if you can prove concept even without a prototype to my knowledge you can buy yourself a few years. i am not sure if this is correct but when researching a pattent myself a few months back, this seemed to be the conclusion. i forgot how many years it was, and maybe i misinterpreted, but this sounds like an affordable middle way. if this does work though you will find investors more easily and are in a position where basically no one can steal your idea. i think costs for this would be around $15K (temporary pattent for proof of concept in detail). if i understood wrong i am sorry

>>60574817 (OP)
sybau

the likelihood that came up with a viable good idea that no one else has thought of an implemented is beyond slim.

it might be a great idea, but there is a reason it hasn't already been done. that reason might be 20 years of work and 50 billion dollars in capital requires to marginally improve something that doesn't net 50 billion a year in revenue. good idea's are very easy, its the execution that's hard. really really hard.

I've worked for 6 different startups that would change the world. 4 are bankrupt, 1 got acquired for $$$$$$$ and one is limping along with an uncertain future. 2/6 is much better odds than normal, its usually more like 1 in 50 ever turn a profit. good luck though, i hope it works out for you

>>60574826
This. Sucks to suck OP. Always gotta read the TOS.

>>60574838
Patent your invention. Then license it. If you can't patent it, then good luck because somebody with massive capital will just roll over you as soon as you prove your idea.

And you better shut your mouth and get to work on getting the patent because if you wait too long or talk too much you can lose the opportunity for a patent.

>>60575065
there are search engines for this, i dont have the list currently and you have to be creative in your searches and spend a bunch of hours looking but you can confirm wether it exists or not and even consult with an expert to help you find if it exists or not which will probably also be the same expert that can help you finalize the deal if your idea does not exist yet

>>60574838
How immoral is this idea?

There's a guy who runs Helpbnk I think it's called for small startups who's big on social media. Well no very big but could be a start if money is a problem

But I'd definitely get things legally attributed to you/patented etc. First

>>60574817 (OP)
Too much effort. Just ape into shitcoins and call it a day anon

https://dexscreener.com/solana/79ptc9uswhxzt9aawwrax95nwg1u6tqtqq2dnmgukzvt

>>60574817 (OP)
You want to find some angel investors get it to a seed/preseed round. First firm up a team of someone good on the business financing side, make a deck then start pitching. I'd talk to Saturn Five personally.

Good luck

>>60574884
It's an improvement on a way to interact with the brain and it will revolutionize psychology, neuroscience and our understanding of the brain

The problem is that, in my subjective opinion, we could cure and create all the mental illnesses we wanted with it. Military could be involved, big money players that want to hack the brain, shit like that.

>>60574887
Yes. Prototype would cost few hundred grand fo sho.

>>60574889
Yeah nah I get you. I used to hack computers when I was little. The devil is in the details.

>>60574898
Jews

>>60574899
The first professor was in STEM, the second professor was in medicine and the second one wanted to link me up with some Norwegians that already do worse shit than I did and she gave her hand to do clinical studies when it comes out.
I will probably piggy back from her knowledge and name/title.

>>60575065
Thanks man

>>60575216
Prototype before patent tho, and can't make it without cash. Shit.

>>60575277
It's not immoral per say, it will just be high impact.

>>60575304
Thanks man, any european ones? (it's 3 AM and I am shitting out code here)

>>60574898
>I have this thing that will cure cancer
Show us then
>Well, i dont actually have the thing I just know that some moon rocks can cure cancer. Can I have a patent to curing cancer if anyone ever gets their hands on moon rocks and has the same idea as me?

>>60575397
oh, you're just a schizo
carry on

>>60575480
anon... some really retarded shit has been patented. most patents are from clown world

Larp

>>60574817 (OP)
I had this idea for a bucket hat that has a solar panel so it can charge your phone
Probably will pursue it if I feel like it, I know that shit would make billions

>>60574817 (OP)
Create a public company and issue shares to get funding so that you can start operations