Should I put in other currency other than Eth or is bitcoin the best option?

>>60582810 (OP)
Cross reference coins chosen by NASDAQ and CME etc. to have benchmark rates and those in early phase of ETF launches and are included in Wormhole, USDC, ONDO, and Link, and those who are already on government boards or partnered with other tokens which are in key ways with few competitors. My personal recs to buy across would be: XRP, QNT, XDC, ALGO, AVAX, XLM, SUI, APT, FLR, ONDO, OMNI, ADA, SOL, POL, ARB, ATOM, DAG, ATOM, AAVE, DOT.

>>60582891
Imagine being such a faggot...

Test

>>60582810 (OP)
100% bitcoin

>>60582953
so even tho its worth a lot there is still some value?

how much does everyone put around?

>>60582810 (OP)
fartcoin

>>60582891

Smartcity folks bought sol

>>60582891
You can just simplify it down to XRP, HBAR, XDC and if you have extra cash you could consider QNT and ONDO. All the rest is superfluous.

>>60582965
>how much does everyone put around?
Zero. Retail is priced out of BTC and most don't understand the concept of fractional ownership.

>>60582973
Based.

>>60582810 (OP)
only when it crashes and goes into bear market and seems dead

>>60583009
where and what should I put my investment in now?

and why?

>>60583009
Why would you not list eth if you're talking about ONDO? Are you fucking dense?

bitcoin only, anyone trying to sell you on an alt is a scammer and you will lose all your money.

theres two ways to play the market, either never look at a chart again and just focus all your effort at improving your irl skillset and cashflow and throw it into bitcoin

or spend every waking moment glued to your screen and play the hot potato game against people that have 10x more information than you, better tools, more capital, and cabal groups. this game is 100x harder than it was in 2021

>>60582973
this is also a decent bet if bitcoin actually goes up. if bitcoin goes down instead will crash to 0 though

>>60583067
Ethereum. All those little shitcoins trade on Ether.

>>60583100
>>60583083

But ETH barely moves?

how come bitcoin has had an overall increase since the moment it was introduced?

>>60583128
Because of FOMO. Hard capped supply. Bitcoin is literally about to crash because, unironically, internet funny money isn't worth 100k.

Ethereum is business friendly and ready to play ball with central bank digital currencies. Bitcoin is what would win if we didn't live in hell. But this is Satan's playground, so we will continue to slip further into cyber-dystopia

>>60582810 (OP)

If you want to be safe: Wait until BTC dips to 75K next bear market and then buy. If you want to play it riskier, but still safe(ish): grab some higher cap altcoins like SOL, ETH, DOGE, etc.

>>60583150
Won't be waiting much longer. Monday is gonna be bad

>>60582810 (OP)
someone made a bot that watches dextools for integrity dao wicks
it only pings when volume touches weird numbers like 333 or 888
people started calling those the sacred trades
devs won’t confirm
community doesn’t care

>>60582898
Imagine thinking through trite redditposting rubrics of sophistical rebuff.
>>60583009
I meant to include HBAR, you are right. ONDO would also make my list generally but was not fitting to the strategy mentioned. I agree buying across those mentioned would likely be extremely secure with still an extreme upside but am just saying across the list I gave would be like buying across the best bets on internet technologies, ignoring the fervor probably pre-crash. I think there will likely be a huge crash but either way if held these would be unbelievable buying opportunities for security/early purchase. Like buying Apple/Microsoft/Amazon in 2000.

>>60582891
you're a midwit and deserve to get fleeced. bitcoin will outperform 100% of the coins mentioned. MAYBE not sol but thats a big maybe

>>60583226
Lol For bitcoin to even 10x it needs to have 20 trillion dollars. You are delusional and in a fixated literal greed cult. Not too late. Broaden your investment and you will do well. Choose to fixate and miss out to signal consensus with a cult of other late retards, and you will choose temporary ego attachment over making it. You can pretend for a while but objective reality creeps in and hardens around you regardless of how much you repress it. And pretending you were somehow more fundamentally right even though the math didn't mete out will be unsatisfying and you will be permanently frustrated in a non-resolvable way.

>>60583236
>Lol For bitcoin to even 10x it needs to have 20 trillion dollars.

this statement makes zero sense.
are you saying it needs to have 20 trillion mcap? yes that how multiply work. when you take the number 2(current mcap) and multiply it by 10, it becomes 20. are you trying to say it needs to have 20 trillion dollars pumped into it? if so, no that's not how mcap works. not going to explain it because it would be like trying to teach a toddler calculus

i will repeat it one final time, all of those coins you mentioned are scams and will CONTINUE to be outperformed by bitcoin for the coming years, just like they have been for the years past. with the exception of maybe sol

maybe one or two will put in a few multiples for an extremely brief period of time, most holders will be greedy and wont take the exit, and all "gains" will be swiftly given back.

goodluck though, you'll need it

>>60583283
I said it needs to have 20 trillion dollars to 10x. This is not a complicated statement. You are confused by it because you literally don't know highschool algebra if tested. This is further proven by you using calculus to typify a complicated math. Lol You have not presented an argument you have just asserted something reallly stupid through a really weird and gay spacing format. Bitcoin doesn't solve any problems, cannot be used in payments, needs to scale into shitty centralized L2s to be even LITERALLY 1/100th as competitive as payment tokens listed in my original post and even still, is slower and more expensive. It is trojan horse centralization. Mining will 100% centralize past 51% across pareto time just like every natural system of value does. Black Rock are literally ALREADY talking about how the supply isn't necessarily capped. It cannot be used for tokenization or data abstraction or high velocity transaction of NFTs by way of legal/custodial docs or stock certificates etc. It cannot facilitate real time micropayments or handle the full volume of flows in general. There is no messaging field sufficient to the new ISO 20022 messaging standard built into the protocol i.e. no comparative advantage whatsoever. No protocol layer dex or AMM or autobridging etc. No high volume onchain asset locking capacity. Nothing. You are like the same retards WAY back when who bought late as fuck and chose to invest in Cisco or Netscape and act like they were early and it was locked because the "network effect" and early mover advantage. Neither matter when the tech cannot compete and the buildout has not even begun. You are who the Franklin Templeton CEO was talking about when they said "bitcoin is the largest distraction from the largest disruption in financial history." Bitcoin used to be tech literate libertarians but has been transformed into late normie faggots and greed cultists incapable of capturing real alpha but desperate to make it and so

>>60583283
>>60583361
trying to capture lightening in a bottle twice in a row or to ride the shadow of a trend that already played out onto the same glory. You are like 2 steps more redeemable than people buying shib currently thinking it will do the same thing it did a few years ago and are going to miss the real event because you are in a literal greed cult and it is cringe as fuck and literally everyone hates you faggots. You are insufferable and cancerous and clogging to everywhere you spread your shit while knowing nothing, not even the core concepts of your own invesement thesis/technology. The most annoying is your insufferable larp about caring about the principles of btc which you have as a community collectively sold out 100% for the exact opposite of what bitcoin was supposed to be only in the hopes that number go up.

>>60582810 (OP)
Best advice is just buy and hold btc. Set aside like 10% of every paycheck to buy at any price. After 5 years, it will make sense.

>>60583361
>I said it needs to have 20 trillion dollars to 10x.
no it doesn't, you dont understand how mcap works. if 20 trillion dollars got injected into bitcoin it would be trading around 200 trillion mcap

it only needs to hit 20T mcap to 10x, which takes much less than 20T dollars. again, not going to explain how this works because it would be like trying to explain rocket science to a north african tribesman.

as for your other rambling nonsense literally none of it matters. bitcoin doesnt need to do anything and never will. all people need to do is buy it, never move it, then sell it in 20-40 years(or never).

disclaimer: i don't even own any bitcoin. im a terminally online gambler playing the hot potato game with alts. would never touch an alt on your list as they're all scams. fartcoin and probably pengu will outperform 100% of them if bitcoin actually goes up.

if you want to have a life, and increase your practical skillset, its much easier to just buy bitcoin rather than trying to trade alts. nearly 100% of people that buy alts get rekt on longterm vs bitcoin, you HAVE to sell. link being the most obvious example of this. 5 years of downtrend PLUS opportunity cost is frankly unfathomable how much was lost; this is the fate of all alt baggies

>>60583150
what the fuck is a bear market and why will it have an effect on it?

>>60582810 (OP)
XMR looks cool but it's slow af

>>60582810 (OP)
just buy bitcoin. everything else is a shitcoin. yes, even chainlink.

>>60583142
You don't have a clue why "Internet funny money" made it to 100k so you don't have a clue when or if it'll crash.

>>60583427
>>60583361
you niggas have different objectives
bitcoin is digital gold and will crawl like gold does (not literally, but compared to riskier investments) - it will absorb excess liquidity from those who play it safe, it's a thing for preserving value of your inflating dollars
shitcoins will keep 2x'ing and 10x'ing - they're means of making money for those who take risks

>>60583455
>shitcoins will keep 2x'ing and 10x'ing
this is where you're wrong. you're basing this on assumption because alts used to do this for small periods of time in 2017 and 2021. those days are over because the altcoin market got diluted by about 10,000x. very few alts will make those kinds of gains, and im simply asserting legacy alts like the other anon is suggesting is actually the worst r:r in the market. if you want to gamble on shitcoins, it better be new and have a good narrative

some examples being $hype(onchain binance), $pengu(largest web3 IP), $fartcoin(easiest to understand meme, the entire meme is the ticker, good slogan "hot air rises"), $pepe(biggest meme ever) and you need to strongly consider selling this kind of crap if you ever see decent gains.

other anon will underperform the hyped alts, probably get too greedy and wont sell for modest gains, and end up underperforming btc when he becomes a perpetual bagholder.

NEVER BELIEVE IN AN ALTCOIN, the fact he's talking about tech means he doesn't understand the market at all. every coin is just a ticker, there is no tech and never will be. its just a casino, the sooner everyone understands that the better.

>>60583449
Said the hoooooooper. You live in hell. Accept it.

>>60583427
You literally don't understand basic multiplication. If there are 10 tokens and the marketcap is 100 dollars and you have one token valued at 10 dollars, to 10x your value, the token value needs to 10x. If the token value 10xs the marketcap proportionately 10xs because it is the collection of token value times number of tokens. If you 10x the hypothetical token you get a 100 value of your token and a 1000 value marketcap. You are objectively wrong in every way. The myth of marketcap is true for certain flow mechanics as detailed in the /xsg/ general but it is not true for token price and you are deliberately misconstruing what I am saying or really stupidly misunderstanding it.

>>60583488
I have been investing in crypto since the early 2010s retard. You bought bitcoin for the first time in 2017.

Cardano is guaranteed to 5x in the next altcoin boom. Bitcoin is for losers

>>60583877
>>60583883
Bro you are dead wrong and retarded. If the next market transaction is a single bitcoin buy for $200k, then the market cap essentially doubles as all bitcoins are now priced at the margins - the very last transaction. It only took $200k to send the market cap up trillions.

Obviously there are thousands of market buys and sells so the price does not linger at such extremes in the short run, but >>60583427 is right, it will take far less liquidity than you think to hit 20T market cap. Seriously go research how this works before you spew misleading information to newanons. You most certainly have not been trading since the early 2010s or else you wouldn’t be here and would understand these basic market principles.

>>60583083
ONDO also operates on XRPL now.
ETH not needed.
ETH L2s are jumping ship instead of going down with it.

https://blog.ondo.finance/ondo-finance-brings-tokenized-treasuries-to-the-xrp-ledger-with-seamless-mint-redeem-via-ripples-rlusd-stablecoin/

>>60583067
XRP, HBAR, XDC and if you have extra cash you could consider QNT and ONDO.
Asking the question a second time doesn't change the answer.
Stay away from ETH if you actually want to make money. ONDO and others are actively abandoning ETH.

>>60583142
>Ethereum is business friendly and ready to play ball with central bank digital currencies
How many regulatory licenses has the Etherium foundation obtained to maintain regulatory compliance? What none?! How can banks adopt them if its illegal for them to adopt without licensure? Guess they'll have to go to regulated tech like XRPL.

>>60583192
Yeah the list was pretty solid if not overdiversified. I personally dont want to spread out that thin. But you actually did your research unlike most of this retarded board.

>>60585023
Nothing you said contradicts anything
I said. I ven referred to a pasta which describes this, though you are doing so now a bit too loosely. I said it would require 20 trillion held in marketcap to have that token value, not that 20 trillion fresh dollars would need to enter it. You guys are both failing to understand what I wrote.

>>60585068
I wasn't imploring him to buy all of them as much as I was saying to but some basket across them, in descending significance. Though I don't really see the problem with being extremely diversified honestly and never understood why so many are oppositional to it. If all are high confidence large upside bets, all it does is broaden security for a few dollars extra in trading fees.

>>60583488
20,000 coins will break into less than a hundred serious ones. Guess where all the non-destroyed liquidity (among other utility driven money and fresh institutional pools etc.) will go..

>>60585068
They just obtained ONDO and all their licenses faggot. Try to keep up.

>>60585035
That's from a month ago. They just acquired ONDOs parent company and all their regulatory licenses.

>>60585799
>>60585803
What do you mean? ONDO are owned by a collective investor group. There is no parent company. They have launched products on XRP and XLM. Their core function was organized around like 7 networks including XRP.

>>60585799
>>60585803
>Oasis Pro acquired crypto currency company ONDO Finance to further development of tokenized securities on XRPL
https://www.ainvest.com/news/ondo-finance-acquires-oasis-pro-expand-regulated-tokenized-securities-2507/
Wow, thanks for that. Guess Ethereum DOESN'T have the legal clarity to operate. Do you fucking retards ever bother to research your own bags or do you just buy whatever hypeman influencers tell you to buy?

>>60586159
>*acquired by
But still, they didn't get bought out by (((your guy))) and are building on an actual compliant network.
Also published 3 hours ago, so maybe you're the one that needs to keep up.

>>60586159
Therybought Oasi, not other way around, which is why the person you are replying to himself makes no sense. Ondo did not change ownership or sell or in any way lose or transfer any of their regulatory licenses.

>>60586159
>>60586183
Sorry for typos. For some reason was flagged as spam without them as the only changes.

>>60586183
Shut the fuck up retard

>>60586275
>chatGPT
Post an actual source that shows definitive proof then. You can't, can you?

>>60583067
>investment
Into the S&P500, the risk/reward ratio on crypto is not good enough anymore to warrant risking money in it. Better just go the safe(r) route while also saving some cash and wait for the next big money making event. Whether that will happen in our lifetimes is another topic though.

>>60586288
https://decrypt.co/328676/ethereum-defi-ondo-obinhood-tokenized-stocks

You guys don't think btc is going to moon when the otc and exchange supply runs out towards the end of the year? Why not and why are you so retarded?

>>60586483
Absolutely no where in that article does it say that Etherium foundation purchased ONDO. It has two sentences stating that ONDO has some work on Etherium products and thats it. Jesus mETH heads are next level fucking retarded. This doesn't make the ETH main net compliant to the licensure requirements. You're looking at apples and oranges and thinking that its equivalent.
This is like saying a driver's license gives you the same licensure to practice engineering.
Holy fuck this board has become so fucking stupid in the last few years. Did you outsource all of your critical thinking capabilities to AI and lose proper brain function?

>>60586275
This LITERALLY proves the opposite of what you said. No one bought them. They bought Oasis. No one ever disputed they use Eth. He said they are using them less. They listed an org chart of their operation both from partners and network partners (included XRP, SUI, APT, SOL, ETH).

>>60586288
What do you mean?! They DEFINITELY would've made a purchase at this scale with ZERO press release or social media mention. You are antisemitic for doubting!!!

>>60586757
They also partnered with Stellar on a few things. I am exceedingly less bullish on XLM though personally.

>>60583128
Bitcoin is the de facto on ramp for big finance. That's it, that's the competitive advantage of BTC relative to everything else.
ETH's dapp ecosystem is unmatched. This is a strategic choice from the very beginning, which includes constant scaling improvements, one of which being POS. 20 years from now, now matter what happens, you will be using ETH in some way.
XRP, LINK and similar are cost competitors to ETH. That is they are cost competitors that ETH cannot copy like it can copy SOL.

BTC will keep going up as along as big finance keeps pouring in money.
But I cannot predict how long this will keep happening so I'm 50/50 ETH/BTC

>>60582810 (OP)
crypto is already an old industry

in any industry everything always gets consolidated to a few players

bitcoin is the biggest player in this space

meme coins are dead

>>60587273
>Argument that netscape is the permanent network winner of web 1.0.
Ethereum was the test bed for dapps the same way BTC was the test bed for value/payments. Neither is 1/100th as efficient or fast as competitors nor can they do have of the functions of the 10 best networks for each side. Nor would it be good for them to be used. Both require extremely shit centralized L2s to be remotely useful or competitive/are literal trojan horse centralization, selling people on the frontend promise of decentralization but scaling them into a systems architecture and UI that once built out is a trap that is worse and more cucked than the system blockchain and DLT were supposed to disrupt and free us from. They are worse technologies that are also less principled in outcome of usage totally taken over by unrepresentative people who changed the entire purpose of them (btc was supposed to be a decentralized anonymous p2p payment network). Every chain worth its salt has or is working on an EVM and all of the tested dapps which were developed on Ethereum can now be ported to and funnel into the actual networks that will be used.

>>60587278
>scared that bitcoin will stagnate at 100k

>>60587288
do or* have. Genuine typo here

>>60587288
>>60587304
Fuck do or* have the*

>>60587288
>Every chain worth its salt has or is working on an EVM and all of the tested dapps which were developed on Ethereum can now be ported to and funnel into the actual networks that will be used.
Strange how ETH is still the dapp leader by orders of magnitude of traffic after years of EVM compatible chains eh?
Transferring over whole ecosystems is not nearly as easy as changing a browser.
L2 and L3 is not a comfortable solution but a necessary one.
What you are forgetting is that ETH was not the place were a lot of these innovations, such as L2, were discovered. They were originally implemented in other chains which ETH copied.
The only chains whose tech ETH cannot copy are LINK, because its reputation structure relies on a network built over time, and XRP, which is centralized.

>>60587379
Lol Dude we are LITERALLY not even in a place where it is legal for banks or institutionst to use blockchains as such yet completely with EVMs launching weeks ago. XRP's LITERALLY launched a week or so ago-we are still SO earl in buildout it is insane. Literally again like saying Netscape won because of their success pre-dotcom bust. You think they will choose a slower less efficient and costlier network with built in trust solutions in L2 and L3 over a network that can scale indefinitely at L1 with its own built in protocol layer dex, amm, auto-bridging etc? Are you joking?

>>60582891
havent these almost all brutally underperformed bitcoin

>>60588688
From what timeline to what timeline? XRP is up 4x since last December. And who cares either way? He asked about future investment. Who gives a fuck what goosed liquidity and speculation produced. Invest based on actual utility and future viability in real world usage especially in the institutional and defi builidout, not who subsidizes popular NFT project releases etc. Buy the rumor if you feel the need to make money flipping (which you will probably eat losses on) but own the truth. It is WAY too early (though probably a big crash coming) to be a greedy retard and not just buy high confidence plays that are priced like tech startups.

>>60583226
most of these Alts have the potential to print 5X minimum in the future.
let me tell you this for free, BTC ain't 500k anytime soon, at least not in the next 10 years

>>60582810 (OP)
it matters less where you your money.
What matters most is where this is heading