"It has to crash, don't buy yet" - /biz/ (#60603357) [Archived: 509 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: M/lDzaZy
7/10/2025, 2:22:21 PM No.60603357
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This is what bears in Australia have been saying since the early 2000's when property prices started skyrocketing.

People starting selling their properties assuming it would crash.

It never crashed.

For the past 20 years I've heard people constantly claim "it just can't keep going up, the growth isn't sustainable, im NOT buying yet"

These people have been permanently priced out of ever owning a home.

Look at fucking graph, its had parabolic growth for 2 fucking decades LOL
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Anonymous ID: olxIlivb
7/10/2025, 2:24:50 PM No.60603363
>>60603357 (OP)
Real estate prices are ridiculously high almost everywhere in developed countries. I'll buy in Asia any time I want; I'm actually completely indifferent to real estate.
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Anonymous ID: M/lDzaZy
7/10/2025, 2:26:42 PM No.60603369
>>60603363
High comparative to what though?

How can you call it "high" when they've sustained their growth for MULTIPLE DECADES?

>I'm actually completely indifferent to real estate

That sounds like you're copeing for having been wrong for 20 years and it's your way to cope with being priced out due to being wrong
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Anonymous ID: NX9/+HUn
7/10/2025, 2:27:29 PM No.60603372
Canadian/Australian tangents are eerily similar. Both reddit countries taken over by kike socialists who are trying to pump and dump with infinity immigrants and fake real estate scarcity.
Anonymous ID: muII20OS
7/10/2025, 2:30:12 PM No.60603383
It will eventually crash 30%... in 2140 after everyone who remembers 2008 died and its run up 20,000%
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Anonymous ID: UikR6ILN
7/10/2025, 2:45:59 PM No.60603436
Christ what the fuck causes this shit? USA is next
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Anonymous ID: OFkXEU3V
7/10/2025, 2:48:57 PM No.60603446
>>60603436
>next
Anon....
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Anonymous ID: NX9/+HUn
7/10/2025, 2:49:26 PM No.60603450
>>60603436

Nah cause the US actually builds. There's a massive gap between the US/Canada right now in home affordability. Canada is basically if California was its own country.
Anonymous ID: UikR6ILN
7/10/2025, 2:56:19 PM No.60603474
>>60603446
I mean, I know its insane here but I can afford a decent home as a college grad wagie. Albeit 3x the price of 6 years ago
Anonymous ID: h2gD3+ck
7/10/2025, 3:04:02 PM No.60603497
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>>60603357 (OP)
Thatโ€™s right. House prices will never ever ever never go down. EVER.
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Anonymous ID: NX9/+HUn
7/10/2025, 3:05:36 PM No.60603501
>>60603497

Japan is allowed to build. This is the key difference.

>your country allows builders to just build
Values are kept in check

>your country doesn't
Prices skyrocket until some kind of mass death event
Anonymous ID: Y0y8Rg1d
7/10/2025, 3:14:54 PM No.60603525
>>60603363
>Asia
Bro even vietnam housing prices have gone through the roof, enjoy your estate in central afrika when you are ready to settle
Anonymous ID: FdiX6BDe
7/10/2025, 4:04:25 PM No.60603733
>>60603369
>How can you call it "high" when they've sustained their growth for MULTIPLE DECADES?
Calling a fake economy "growth" is just retarded though.
Anonymous ID: NX9/+HUn
7/10/2025, 4:13:42 PM No.60603762
just canada things
just canada things
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>Canada

SE ACABO
Anonymous ID: lXnRrzva
7/10/2025, 4:24:10 PM No.60603796
>>60603357 (OP)
"These people have been permanently priced out of ever owning a home."
but HOW is that even possible? the supply of homes is slightly increasing, the demand (number of people/families) is more or less increasing but more and more stable).
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Anonymous ID: NX9/+HUn
7/10/2025, 4:33:51 PM No.60603841
>>60603796

Supply doesn't necessarily increase. Remember homes are routinely made unliveable, through normal decay as well as things like ghettoification of an area (frequent in urban areas with nigglers running around).

Canada and Australia import an insane amount of people vs their population baseline and existing housing supply. So yes, it's as simple as artificial scarcity in home building, and artificial demand in warm body pumping.
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Anonymous ID: QXT/OkV0
7/10/2025, 4:35:33 PM No.60603845
>>60603369
They are high on the expectation that people should be able to eventually own a home. They are low on the expectation that housing will be out of reach of most people even in multiple lifetimes, which is where we are heading. So I would agree that this line is only going to keep going up.
Anonymous ID: i4O5tNzI
7/10/2025, 5:44:12 PM No.60604145
>>60603357 (OP)
>>60603363
>>60603383
>>60603497
>>60603841
It's pretty simple to understand, anons. Most people want/need to live where jobs are. In places like Australia and Canada very little of the land is actually developed/habitable and so there are very few areas where jobs can be.

Populations tend to grow somewhat exponentially over time. You have 2 children, they have 2 children (so what was 2 is now 4), they have 2 (8), etc. More people = more demand for housing, but people still don't want to live too far from where they work so this is why cities start to develop UP once they get large enough (apartment buildings vs. houses, then 10-20 story buildings vs. 3-5 story buildings, then skyscrapers, etc.).

Houses ultimately become very valuable because often on the property of one single home you can build minimally one apartment building and now sell 5-10+ units vs. selling one. It's the land that is increasing in value, not the home itself.

This is also true in the USA, and EVERY country, though these things will be felt/perceived at different levels due to (1) amount of habitable land and (2) rate of population growth.

Increasing desirable land amounts is unlikely. Cities grow near ports and places of transport and convergence. The ones that are going to exist all already do. You can put plumbing in rural Alabama all day but jobs won't develop there, and houses will remain low value, so builders won't build there because there's no money to be made.

The only thing that will bring home prices down would be population decrease. Good luck with that, humans like to fuck and despise condoms.

On top of all this, builders can not keep up with demand. There are housing shortages in every desirable country right now.

This is why, no memes, housing prices always go up and always will. It's a side effect of population growth x low amount of desirable land & all desirable land discovered/already "maxed" out.
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Anonymous ID: kx8EAFlf
7/10/2025, 6:21:00 PM No.60604280
>>60603369
>High comparative to what though?
average expected wages, canada and aus are giant bubbles that will die with the boomers
its not about raw populations numbers its about the purchase power that those cohorts have
importing the third world does not generate wealth to justify high real estate
quite the opposite its a net drain on government budgets which means real estate is the worst thing to hold as its the ultimate tax captured asset
in this climate you want to be a mobile as possible to escape all the social welfare implosions that are inescapable

>>60604145
if you have 2 children thats a small net population decline over the generation, do you fail at even the most basics of demography
Anonymous ID: Xb+yWvUw
7/10/2025, 6:53:28 PM No.60604464
It crashes when boomers need to sell to fund retirement. Shrimple as and it already happening.