Also, why do NEETs exist? What creates them?

And no. NEETs in the similar way to hikikomori were not always a thing. People that opted out of society like hermits are strongly associated with spiritual pursuit and religion.

I think it's loneliness.
My brother is moving out, we could all live apart, we all make reasonably well, but we decided to stay living with our mother, due to being close as a family. And it just hit me. Soon, my mom won't be here, my brother has a handful of friends, but I don't. I never had them growing up and don't even know how to properly talk to people. I know he will always be my brother, but proximity does change the dynamic, I barely talk to my sister since she moved, I work long hours and so does she, so in weekends and holidays often she just wants to catch up on sleep, I only see her when she comes over, or when I visit her. Not only that, but I feel very sad and, irrationally anxious. I know it's a cliché, but, I have no idea what direction to take my life. I know it's the normal course of things, and I have no one to blame for my loneliness but myself.
I hope it works well for him and his girl, he always wanted to be a father.
He's 38, I'm 28.

I can see myself only working with speculation and as a freelance programmer in 10 years, and that scares me.

>>60605433 (OP)
>demoralize a group of people
>give that group of people zero guidance on how to navigate life
>place pressure on them while giving them zero guidance
>they withdraw and shut down
Not exactly a mystery.

>>60605433 (OP)
what are your hobbies?
I have been able to make new friends consistently. im 33. being into niche weird things and meeting other people that also like those things.
I talk to strangers in the street all the time idk bro
remember: you work to live not live to work.

>>60605433 (OP)
>no reason to try anymore
>people are mostly all shit besides close familia ties and even then some of those suck
>money really can’t buy anything anymore
>middle class completely destroyed (120K annually is lower middle class)
>no future female prospects or they’re all tattooed roasties ready to settle down

That causes it.

>>60605450
I have none.
I watch movies and tv shows in my free time or read/watch movie analysis, critiques. And browse the net, of course.

bump

I love the smell of NEET-posting in the morning

The government has been making life hell for young white men because they need you to capitulate and sign up for the military out of desperation

>>60605433 (OP)
Its always depression, which often, if not most times are induced by loneliness.
After experiencing exclusion for too long, the neet will naturally choose his own path and not follow the life script, because life rejected him.

>>60605433 (OP)
Fuck off wageslave. I wage but can't wait to be NEET.

>>60605433 (OP)
>I work long hours
you're not a neet, you're just a loser

>>60605433 (OP)
Working is just not worth it anymore. Few understand.

>>60605433 (OP)
I always see these depictions of neet bedrooms full of trash spread in the ground, and wonder myself why we are depicted that way. It is the wagies who have their bedrooms messed up, because they dont have time to put things in order.

>>60611097
Tell me you're the lowest common denominator without telling me.

>>60605433 (OP)
How do neets pay for healthcare?

>>60612098
Another illiterate! You can talk to this guy you discord >>60611097
or even better, Reddit!

You guys have a lot in common!

Good day, Sir!

>>60605433 (OP)
NEETs are a first-world problem.
In the vast majority of the world, if you don't work, you die of hungry.

>>60605450
What are your hobbies if you don't mind me asking? Martial arts? Dance?

>>60613523
Not necessarily, I have travelled to third world countries in the past such as Brazil, Argentina, and Chile due to my work, and there is a sentiment very similar to what we see in first world economies. People (especially youth, and I noticed this from 2018 onwards, that's when I was in those countries) "not wanting to work", putting in the bare minimum or choosing gig economy 'jobs', not wanting to commit to career or education, and some educated youth don't work in their field due to high demands, they feel like "it's not worth it" or "it doesn't pay off". I read about organized movements happening in China in the past, the "Lay Flat Movement" jumps to mind, "lay flat and let it rot", different context I know and even what I described is not 'NEET' territory, but the ideas seem to circulate around it, similar in concept.

>>60605433 (OP)
>why do NEETs exist
>8 years of education, $200k in debt, 1500 applications for 1 interview, 8 interview rounds, ghosted by companies

For what? What's the point? $60k/yr, $35k/yr after taxes? With a $2,300/mo apartment and 1 hour commute? Incentives drive people, and there is currently zero incentive to work.

>>60605433 (OP)
What’s creates neets is a gay Jewish feminist society that isn’t worth participating in.

Nazi germany had a 0 unemployment rate, almost as if the social contract was so great that literally everyone wanted to participate

>>60605501
>120K annually is lower middle class
This is rich, dont be a comsoooomer

>>60605433 (OP)
No, they just fuck themselves hard in the ass. Nobody else cares.

>>60605433 (OP)
The NEET is essential for the economy and society to function. Only very few neets are successful. Most are retards who blow their whole check before the month is halfway over. The government taxes so much and the people see so little they need a subclass to keep the consumer economy running. The lower to mid middle class has been squeezed so hard the past 20 years. If you were born after 1975 and didnt get into tech early you are pretty much fucked. Only way out is to grind/ invest each day like its your last for 10+ years to have a large enough egg $2.5m to NEET. Or join the military and do 20 but if you dont want to NEET like a nigger and dont have money.... slim pickings

T.born in 87

>>60605433 (OP)
do some magic mushrooms (at least 2gr of dried mushrooms) and wallah, your depression will be gone forever. It's magic
t.42 yo ex-depressed NEET who is at peace now

Forget loneliness or mental illness or whatever. We'll see more and more neets because you can live off of capital gains in current year with just $50k of capital. Forget the traditional wisdom that you need 1 or 2 million to live off of capital gains. The US stock market can be trivially predicted minute-by-minute with 80+% accuracy because we're in the biggest asset bubble in human history. I make $200/day trading a single S&P 500 futures contract. I have zero reason to work. The economy is utterly motherfucking broken.

>>60605433 (OP)
It's weird that people just expect men to go along with things and continue working to maintain a society that hates them. I have more respect for neets than wageslaves

>>60605433 (OP)
outside of legitimate monks who live in monasteries, NEETs are a detriment to society, especially when factoring in butterfly effects and complex I/O (cause and effect) charts. those who do not work should not eat. it's as simple as that. obviously there are caveats to this, such as retired individuals and quadriplegics. our economy would be unstoppable if we simply did not have muh gibs. social services are over twice as costly as the entire DoD's annual budget. we went off of the gold standard because we couldn't keep up with nigger gibs btw. look where it got us.

>>60616092
You seem to have a good point with
>who do not work should not eat.

But unfortunately I could not fully understand what you were saying because I don't speak zoomer.

>muh gibs
>with nigger gibs btw

>>60616144
that isn't zoomer slang. it's been chan lingo here since 2015. not even remotely new terminology. 'muh gibs' are social service handouts such as SSI, EBT, welfare, etc. nigger gibs are the above criteria but for niggers, which are far easier to obtain and tremendously more abused.

>>60616092
>NEETs are a detriment to society
yawn. not my problem

>>60613569
If I had just taken out loans and then dropped out and traveled the world back in 2018 having sex with random sluts due to being an exotic white man, my life would be 100% better. I'd be poorer, possibly homeless, but at least I'd have bene genuinely happy in the past.

Trying to "get rich" from crypto is a cope because you think you're going to have 1 mirrion dollar and finally do the things you wished you had done when you were young, or you're young now and rather than commit your 20s to banging sloots you'd rather watch charts in a dark room.

>>60616092
i don't care about society, mr goldstein. Everytime a new NEET is born/made the jew wails in pain because he can't make profit out of him lol

>>60605433 (OP)
>why do NEETs exist
Two reasons.
One, wealth generated from automation and mass production has made it possible for people to live without working. This was impossible for most of human history.
Two, dopamine has fried their brains, with the internet, media, movies, tv, social media. They have a stream of endless content to enjoy and spending all day enjoying it is the path of least resistance.
Take away all the internet, all the entertainment, let a NEET be bored. After a few months you'll find almost all of them do actually want to do things because the alternative is sitting around doing nothing. And yeah they'll be anxious or unsure of what to do, but if enabled this can allow them to exit their comfort zones. Maybe they won't be working, or in education, maybe it will be meeting people, or hanging out with friends, or going for walks, or picking up a sport, or creative pursuits like writing, music, or art.>>60605433 (OP)
>I think it's loneliness.
This is certainly part of it as well. A person that feels isolated from their community feels no obligation to work to benefit the community.

>>60616322
this really has nothing to do with general kikery. you choosing to not contribute to your local society is a detriment to your town and your family. you are not forced to work for a jew corporation. you can work anywhere or go into trades and not contribute to the globohomo. if you worry about tax dollars going to israel you can work under the table as a tradie and make bank while still collecting neetbux.

>>60616501
keep coping wagie

>>60616501
keep coping wagie

>>60616746
>>60616823
You guys aren't NEETs or punks against the establishment, you're just bums.
Filthy, disgusting trash.

>>60616838
jew wailing here, lol
t. neetchad

>>60616919
more like t. bum

>>60616924
ok wagie

>>60611097
same. 1 and a half months and i will finally achieve my dream

>>60613514
Why do you need "healthcare"? Are you old, fat, or disabled? Just live your life bro

>>60616919
This 'man' is celebrating supposedly leaching off of someone. And trying to... what? Make me ashamed of being independent through my work? kek, priceless. Top last man degeneracy. You're just trash, and soon enough, you will taken out.

>>60617115
>independent
>work
choose one, sweaty. If you love your chains, it's your problem. I'm not going to enslave myself so you can feel a little bit better about yourself. Slave mentality at its finest. Now do a 360 a get back to work, slave. chop chop. Daddy needs its bux

>>60617528
Kek

>>60617016
>Why do you need "healthcare"? Are you old, fat, or disabled? Just live your life bro
Neets explain

>>60613514
We don't, we just show up to hospital with life threatening problems and lay down on the floor until we get treated or die in public.
>tfw even making death not my problem

>>60605433 (OP)
I was a neet for a long time because I was insistent on working from home, I was not willing to go back to the commuter life under any circumstance. It took me multiple years and thousands of job applications but I finally got a remote data job and wouldn't ya know it? I'm the best fucking data processor on the team and I mog all of my female/nonwhite coworkers in productivity.

Here is the truth: most white male neets are smart, capable guys who are qualified for decent remote jobs but those jobs are being held by DEI hires who are not qualified to hold those jobs. There is a societal war being waged against young white men, and the end goal is to make it so that young men can't do anything but be neets, fast food workers, or soldiers. The neet epidemic was artificially and purposefully created by the people in power who want to see us all dead or broken.

>>60616418
>A person that feels isolated from society feels no obligation to work to benefit the community.

Why should I bus your dishes when I don't have a table to sit at?

>>60617837
This. For the longest time I was a NEET due to self doubt. I now have an IT job keeping WAN networks up and I'm already mogging some of my fellow techs that have been working there longer than I have including some seniors who cant be bothered to read the SOP to stay updated on processes.

>>60616418
This is sone midwit surface level analysis. The real reason is around 90% of times no woman. Sone men continue to work and some not. And since women are told to behave in ways that makes them having less tones in relationships the neets increase.

I'm 42 and haven't had friends in a little over 20 years. You get used to it, which will either horrify you or liberate you.

>>60617986
>erm this is surface level it's actually because neets get no pussy!!
thank you for the insightful contribution, retard

>>60615255
>The economy is utterly motherfucking broken.
These are the good times. Soon you will see just how broken things can really be.

They made the job market like the dating market
>Employer roasties all looking for 10 years industry experience chadployee
>Workcels fresh out of school give them the ick
>Catfishing with fake job listings
Unless you know a guy who knows a guy to nepo you in past the interview stage it's basically over.

complaining about neets in a post scarcity society where 70% of people are fat and everyone is in debt..... what in le world....

>>60605433 (OP)
>Also, why do NEETs exist? What creates them?
For most, it's temporary until Mom and Dad get fed up.
For others, it's generational wealth.
Both are increased by the money printer and the "bezel". Wealth gap is increased by government workers, non-profits, and military cotractors, who are closer to the printer than normal people. These companies get loads of money fresh off the press while it still retains value and can hire all sorts of retards to do nothing in exchange for 3-5x the pay of similarly skilled people outside of the "bezel" who have to produce value from their job in order to retain it.
Similarly, there's tech companies that run on endless VC money, which generally comes from people also closer to the printer.

>>60618200
This anon knows. The fact these are objectively the ‘good times’ is indicative of just how bad it’s going to get.

>>60605433 (OP)
You had a bad mother who squandered the years you should have been learning to be independent by keeping you like a house pet to avoid having to live alone herself. May such cases with extremely selfish women in fatherless households. Don;t believe a worrd she says about your father either, she got rid of him because she was to self centered to let you be anything but her sole custody abd probably ruined his life too.

>>60605433 (OP)
>as a freelance programmer in 10 years
that is already dead. IT is finished as a progession it should hav eblved to be stable like law and accounting but has turned into the only revenue stream for the third world and a collapsing now heading into three year tech hiring and pay recession and tech pay has done nothing but go down for 10 years along with innovation.

>>60615255
>We'll see more and more neets because you can live off of capital gains in current year with just $50k of capital
I'm sorry ypu are actually retarded. You reek of desperation like a gambling addict.
>>60615255
>The US stock market can be trivially predicted minute-by-minute with 80+% accuracy because we're in the biggest asset bubble in human history. I make $200/day trading a single S&P 500 futures contract.
Yup. you're retarded and don't pay tax on each trade. You're already looking at jail.

>>60618281
>complaining
Filtered by literacy, many such cases. Thanks for playing.

>>60618823
My father was a good man, he and my mother had a very good relationship, they sometimes fought but hardly in front me growing up, I know I'm fortunate on that front, he died when I was 16, I had just turned 16. I think that we were as close to the 'ideal 1950's family' as it comes in modern days, we even had a dog, kek, it wasn't a Golden Retriever or German Shepard though, it was a Rottweiler, great dog, funny and very loving 'gentle giant', well not a giant, but still.

>>60618023
Its just the most important reason

>>60612604
its just what depression does. and why bother with all that work when no one is coming to your place anyway

>>60612604
My apartment is a complete landfill, lmao.

>>60616187
If you think you need sex to be happy and nothing can substitute that this is a (you) issue.

>>60618210
its hard to not notice that wherever you go all the workers seem to be women. call some company or government office? its always a woman, walk into a store? always women working there, look into an office? full of women, check out a university? also mostly women. you have to really look these days to find men

>>60619559
>>60619550
>taking advice from someone who lives in a landfill in detroit

>>60605450
I want friends to talk about many things I like or care, I can't have friends in street because my family would try to control it and annoy everyone in the process so I don't even care about going out to make friends because they will hate me for my family intervention(they think I'm anti-social but I'm not, its just that the "social life" needs things I don't have, like freedom or money, I should've taken that opportunity to move out in my friend house, now I don't have that anymore, the only thing I can do is wait and plan something about it, maybe living in streets ins't that bad... no, definitely is, the place were I live I saw 2 beggars fighting with knifes, one died)

>>60619699
Stupid people can clean their houses too.

>>60615183
>fry your brain and you won't care anymore
I chose the hard route of getting my first job at 23 and going back to college at 27. Don't regret it in the slightest.

Why do normies express such visceral disgust at unemployed people? I never did nothing to them, but they treat me like I just announced I'm a convicted sex offender. Literally all I did was not work.

>>60612604
When you give up on the larger things in life you start giving up on the smaller things too. "Nobody will ever come visit me so why should I keep things clean?" type of thinking

>>60622042
>like I just announced I'm a convicted sex offender.
A sex offender that is a working member of society would either be on the same level of you or higher, much higher.
>I never did nothing to them,
>Literally all I did was not work.
'All I did was not work' not quite, you seem to genuinely not understand, so, even though I will likely be loosing my time explaining it, I will try.

If you became a monk or a hermit, lived in a forest, monastery or by the kindness of others, you would be mostly good, even as a hermit and here's why:

They either live with their institution's money, which mainly comes through donations, or on their own (forest monks) with very little help from others (voluntary help), which also includes the hermit. What they get from the state? Either nothing or very little in very specific situations, e.g. medical emergency.
Their families? The same, they don't take from their families.

A NEET either will leach from parents, government or schemes that will often TAKE from somebody. That's the main point, they TAKE from someone, without providing anything in return, or very little. You know why a lot of Europeans hated Jews? It wasn't just the Germans, nor it was only in the 19th and 20th centuries. Jews often made small fortunes by just trading and speculating, buying something for cheap and selling at a higher price, no concern with quality or purpose, they didn't plow the field or created something like an artisan, just buy cheap, sell higher, speculate or borrow at an interest. Without producing anything of real value, but by just taking a 'ride' in someone else's work, a clever way to take, a legal one, I'll grant that, credit is due where credit is due. But nonetheless, we humans instinctively have a sense of 'fairness', an illusion, yes, but it's there.

cont.

>>60622669
>>60622042
cont.


In prosperous times, in first world countries, and yes, we do live in very prosperous times when compared to the history of human civilization. A NEETs actions will appear to be trivial, 'what are neetbux on the government's expenses? We have corruption that steals much more, I'm just trying to live with the bare minimum', but mistake not, you are stealing it and, in many societies or in different decades? You would likely go hungry!
I'm not a Christian, but this guy said it all:

>>60616092
>those who do not work should not eat.

"For even when we were with you, this we commanded you: that if any would not work, neither should he eat." 2 Thessalonians 3:10

In short? You did a lot wrong, you are effectively stealing from society and creating a burden on everyone around you, even those you love.

>>60622669
>You know why a lot of Europeans hated Jews?
>hated
>past tense

>>60622669
>>60622705
You can bitch at young men all you want, but people respond to incentives. Young men are basically living in an unofficial matriarchy where all their institutions are captured by post-traditional women, and are still expected to adhere to their traditional male gender roles. They're over it. You can call them all sorts of scathing things, but they're too demoralised to care.

NEET is a pressure release valve against further anti-social memetic behaviours. What you really don't want is young men becoming so demoralised that they collectively rescind their Good Samaritan impulse where women are concerned. That's where things get dark.

>>60623186

>>60623279
>collectively rescind their Good Samaritan impulse where women are concerned. That's where things get dark.
I couldn't give two fucks about that, paying your own dam bills as an adult? Do whatever the fuck your hearts desire to woman or anyone else for that matter.

>>60612503
it's not just the lack of goals, but the fact that working conditions are terrible. if going to work wasn't a miserable humiliation ritual it would be fine. If the rewards were worth tolerating the shit work conditions it would be fine. About five years ago these graph lines diverged. It's rational to not work for others in this society right now.

>>60623463
>I couldn't give two fucks about that, paying your own dam bills as an adult?
And they don't give a fuck that you don't give a fuck. It's almost like you have no proper theory of mind for these young men and how they views things now. They've given up on the social contract and become mercenary. This is the socially agreeable form of mercenary. You don't want the other kind.

>>60617758
the average young male has little need for "healthcare." the large majority of health care spending in America is for women, who are all hypochondriacs and diseased losers.

you can purchase healthcare services directly with cash. if you need to go to a dentist you just pay. same with an optometrist. if you need some bloodwork or antibiotics you can pay for that, too. the key is to be physically active/non-sedentary and to not be overweight. these things are easier to maintain when you don't waste your days at some job.

health is primarily about sleeping, moving around, and eating well.

>>60623279
it doesn't help at all that there are basically no women worth having a relationship with. that's the only thing that reliably motivates most men to build and earn beyond their needs. when you turn the carrot rotten they have no need to chase it. the meme is that "NEET's" are kids who never launched but the real concern that the big data at tech firms is showing them is that a lot of men with jobs, careers, and successful lives have been exiting the workforce and are off the books. That's what they're really worried about.

Monetary expansion corrupts the price signal of money causing abnormalities like NEETs and women working, bitcoin is in the process of correcting this distortion

>The Decay of our culture, these mounds of contamination of our whole cultural life, the decomposition of our literature, the poisoning of our theaters, of our movies, all the art is now falling for it. Millions of you do not participate anymore. It does not appeal to them anymore. This art was not born from our people. It is alien to us and will remain alien. It has nothing to do with the western character and did not come from our soul: It was imposed on us by our subversive press which has made it palatable. And parallel to this already the assault against the education of our children's brains, the tearing out of all the memories of our proud past, the insult to all our great men and people, the removal of its memory from the heart and the brain and out of our youth and with it a large defilement of our history. Nothing of what was once great, nothing of what helped create this great nation to make it strong was spared from these corroding and corrosive attacks. Everything is demolished starting from the symbols of the past, from the cockades and flags to the great men of our history.

>>60622669
so much text just to say jealousy

>>60605433 (OP)
Normalfag problems
If you can't handle the heat, don't try to NEET
NEET is paradise, but it's only for the chosen ones

>>60623621
You don't know what price signal means do you

Unironically immigration is a big part of it, sans what's already been said
normally the reduction in population from the elderly passing away provides significant momentum and opportunity to young men, which balances power between employer and worker
But with infinity immigrants (aka endless slave labour), Employers have financial incentive to choose only those who would accept the lowest pay while younger men have no recourse of their own
The result is a slow decline back into serfdom
>>60622669
>defending pedophiles
These are the kind of people who deride you for refusing to become a serf
Also
>clearly a jew as well
really living up to the stereotype huh?

>>60622669
>A NEET either will leach from parents, government or schemes that will often TAKE from somebody
Is what normalfags like to tell themselves to justify their jealousy. This is /biz/ buddy, NEETs here just gambled and won. And you're free to hate us for being so lucky, for being chosen by God, but don't pretend

>>60613514
I'm not 26 yet so I still get mommy's health care package. Once I turn 26 though I'll need either a job that offers some or I need to be giga rich and retired to pay for it myself.
>t. clearly a burger

>>60605501
>120k lower middle class
Youre an absolute tard if you believe that. Thats upper middle class. Lower middle class is 40k and people in that bracket and also flat middle class(50-70k) are the ones bitching about how absurd rent is and how its hard as shit to own a home.

>>60605433 (OP)
NEETs rule
Corporate Overlords drool

>>60605439
>>60605501
both of these are pretty accurate

>Incentives drive people, and there is currently zero incentive to work.

you've got to do stuff OP. you say you have no hobbys, get some. board games, any sport in real life, fishing, hiking, gym, something other people spend time on. start there.

>>60614064
it is though. there seems to be a big disconnect with the cost of living. 120k in bum fuck egypt living with your parents might be a lot. 120k in a major metro (the only place you get a 120k a year job) paying all your own bills is just existing. Take a single nice vacation a year and it's not even existing, its racking up debt.

If you want to live a typical middle class life today in a middle cost of living area and still save, invest for retirement, own a house, 2 cars, take a vacation you need to make more like 200k. which isn't impossible with 2 people working but it's also not common. you used to get all those things on a median wage, now its 5x that.

>>60625206
only the goodest goys in usa get "jobs" with that kind of pay

>>60613514
No income=free healthcare.
If you make less than like $20k in the US, you get Medicaid.
Similar program in all first world countries.

Men want wealth to get pussy, now make this pussy not available for most of men and here goes motive to get rich. Another demoralizing factor is socialism for women and migrants, one day you just realize you work off your ass for shitskins to built society that wants to erase your genes and legacy. It's amazing most men in countries like Germany, France, UK, Netherlands just didn't check out from society.

>>60605450
>what are your hobbies?
aside from weightlifting and running, i do archery, sketching, and learning to play the ukulele
Archery especially is great, it gives me a close-knit community i can regularly interact with that grounds me in a way discord friends can't. I'm also ranked in the top 5% in my state.

>>60623633
I see what you did there. He wasn't wrong then and you're not wrong now.

>>60624410
Jealous of what? A neet is a bum? He has nothing, no freedom no mobility, it's just rotting away. Wanna get back at the system? Become financially literate and free enough to tell any economy or government
>I'm not going to put up with your bullshit or cultural psyop, fuck you and I'm taking my money with me.

Feminine culture is very bad for boys and young men. NEETs are just feminine men. The problem is they lack the female counterpart gene/trait that motivates them to get out of the house and do things: a deep need for attention and socialization. Men don't need that, and they're also more autistically interested in tech/media, so it's something of a toxic combo for someone who is already passive in general.

In the past you'd simply have dads and a culture that forced these kinds of guys out into the world regardless, and there wasn't any computer or phone or tablet or nintendo to run away to. You'd just have to be out there doing things.

>>60624897
You can become a sex offender very easily if you work with woman, especially after the metoo era, anything goes, even if you guys had sex consensually all she needs to do is regret the one night stand the next morning. You really ought to touch some grass, the world has changed a lot in just 10 years.

>>60625005
I have no problem with neets that sustain themselves as it is clearly explored in my post. That's just not the reality. Even here.

>>60605439
And life goes on without you

>>60625602
Liberation comes once you realize "doing things" is not only worthless but usually detrimental.

>>60625663
>society is functioning fine without you
>society is functioning
Lol
Lmao
>>60621936
>first job at 23
>hard
I've been at my career since 16 when I got a job at a chemical plant and now have a PhD doing high tier r&d for whatever tickles my fancy at 40. Don't dismiss that anons advice because you have a chip on your shoulder.
Work and money will hollow you out if you aren't careful. I know because I've been staring into that empty abyssal existence for some time; its alluring in its own way, even though I know its a trap. Don't forget to take care of your soul, anon

>>60625602
so you are saying manly men are perfect slaves? makes sense, they'll be the ones eagerly going to the frontlines for their elite

>>60625663
>society is functioning fine without you
People really are braindead lmao. The reason why society is slowly but surely collapsing (and getting quicker at it) is because the collapse is pre-planned and the way to make it come to fruition is outsourcing labor as well as importing cheap labor that is less skilled than the native populations.

If by "functioning just fine" he means "slowly collapsing into socioeconomic ruin and geopolitical upheaval" as planned than yeah, he's right. But I know he doesn't mean that and he sincerely thinks our female- and minority-run, make-work, Jew daycare, debt-based, unproductive society is functioning well and that makes him part of the problem. Removing and alienating White men from society will inevitably cause its collapse as there is no incentive for them to keep it functional. And the (((elites))) know this, which is why they have replaced, disenfranchised and demoralized them.

>>60605433 (OP)
why are the landscapers not deported he's such a fucking cunt

>>60625678

Doing things is everything. You are all depressed buckets of shit because you don't do anything. And you come up with all of this other cope as to why.

>>60625793

Historically speaking it's men who didn't develop themselves that were the first to be enslaved or drafted, actually. They aren't going to be conscripting fathers and engineers and doctors, they're going to be conscripting 19 year old NEETs. See: Ukraine

If you're worthless for anything else you're the first to be expended by your state.

>>60626846
You don't know what you're talking about. They create the "neets" on purpose, it's not a voluntary thing at all.

>>60626846
You need money to go out so even that argument is laughably on its face absurd.

>>60626862
>>60626887

You guys don't even realize how useless and narcissistic you are. You aren't even saying anything you're just whining idly. No faggot the people making money and running society aren't "slaves" and you aren't some kind of brahmin caste because you live in mommy's basement and collect welfare checks, good God. Yes, during Vietnam, fags like you were the first to be conscripted and sent to die in a gook jungle. You're shudras.

>>60626899
Lmao you're unhinged. Did you use chat gpt? I never disputed your points, just that you don't know what you're talking about. There likely won't be a draft, because there is no national cohesion and it's not even necessary. The first people that went signed up because they were excited or shamed: this happened in WW1, WW2 and Vietnam. Pick up a book lmao.

>>60626899
The people making money are slaves and the people running society are their tyrant overlords. The chef's kiss to your post was the indian comments though. You need to use more realistic terms if you plan to shill without being fired.

>>60626714
Based and truthpilled

>>60626714
>>60626984
Except the thesis is wrong. They actually think that not only will it work, it actually is the most efficient and best system. Some have disagreed which is why you see some minor changes.

>>60626899
>the people making money and running society aren't "slaves"
Not those anons and not a NEET, but the people making money and running society day-to-day are absolutely, 100% slaves, including myself and you. They are running their own Matrix program as both inmates/bluepills and Agents preventing everyone else from getting the real culprits responsible for the state of society. The actual (((masters))) control the money supply itself and thus have no need for it -- they have so much money that they have transcended it. It is a means to an end for them and that end is total control of all assets and resources (including human) on planet Earth. Exchanging the worthless pieces of paper (and soon-to-be completely digital 1s and 0s à la crypto CBDCs) for real assets is Babylonian money magic 101 and the entire world has fallen for it over the last few centuries.

Granted, I am not trying to imply that NEETing is a righteous cause that makes them willing crusaders against an oppressive System and doing literally anything productive at all will make you feel better as a man, but they are indeed
slightly hurting the System by not producing for it as it needs competent male labor to sustain itself. The System will starve if the worker bees do not do what is expected of them to upkeep it or the bees themselves become incompetent (vis-a-vis mass immigration). Males have been deemed obsolete by much of first-world society despite being the lynchpins that allow the very infrastructure of that System to function. If enough of them check out, it absolutely WILL collapse, which is why the puppetmasters want to get AI up and running as fast as possible so they can keep society going in perpetuity while they further financially enslave, gatekeep and bottleneck us.

I'm a 29 yo NEET with 7 figures of meme investments like crypto, cs2 skins and collectables and I masturbate all day doing ERP in Final Fantasy XIV

>>60626996
>Except the thesis is wrong.
Elaborate. I can see nothing that I typed that was wrong, merely the obvious truth at what is happening when you remove all pretense of neoliberal kumbayah multiculturalism bullshit. White men are necessary to upkeep White societies, which have historically been the best societies to be a part of due to a unique mix of factors. When White men are replaced in their own societies, the societies regress to the mean level of competency to the demographics that have replaced them

>>60626967
>>60627000

You guys are hilarious. You depend entirely on "the system." You have no ability to sustain yourself, or wherewithal. You're a house pet. The definition of a slave. If the grid goes down, you starve, just like a dog.

>>60627040
You're the funny one though

>>60627027
The system is in peak performance.

>>60627121
If by "working as intended" by the elites, then yes you're right. They have farmed our labor and funnelled our wealth to themselves quite effectively and efficiently. It's as ingenious as it is evil, but they will quickly point out that we deserve it for letting things get this far and their wrong.

>>60627040
Projection will get you nowhere, friend. I literally agree with you as most people have been infantilized on purpose for the express reason to be reliant on the System and NOT become self-reliant, but you're presenting your non-argument like fellating the System is a good thing because it gives you fake debt notes Monopoly money and thinking this makes you free when you aren't and then doubling down and trying to shame people for getting the System to sustain them instead of the other way around by taking advantage of it. A comfortable slave is still a slave and the gilded cage can be rugpulled by the masters at any moment they desire.

>>60627208

>Projection

I know how to do all sorts of things and am totally self sufficient. More than that actually, I sustain a family as well. You are mommy's house pet in her basement. You may as well not exist with how system-coupled you are. The word you're looking for isn't projection, it's delusion, you are delusional. You aren't beating the system, you're one of the curious symptoms of a large and involved system, the fact that you can even exist is a marvel of modernity.

>>60627208
No one deserves anything. This is why we need a social safety net and Democrats to win.

>>60627232
You never addressed that "neet" isn't voluntary. Until you do that you will grow increasingly unhinged and keep lashing out at shadows and phantoms that only exist in your pea brain.

>>60627246
>You never addressed that "neet" isn't voluntary.

somebody who called me a "slave" just said it isn't his fault he lives in a basement and collects system issued neetbux lmfao

>>60627261
No one collects anything. Sadly you brought up the "slave" term, and keep doing so, probably because you're unhinged. Sorry you feel the need to post here, you can't be doing that well. Take a look in the mirror.

>>60627232
>I know how to do all sorts of things and am totally self sufficient. More than that actually, I sustain a family as well.
You've not mentioned this the entire thread until just now so forgive me if I don't immediately believe you, but truly, sincerely good for you if you have your own parcel of land, a house, grow your own food, get your own energy and have a happy healthy family. I wish to be you one day if that is the case and I wish your kin posterity far into the future.

>>60627236
I get what you're coming from but you're absolutely insane if you think ANY political party, let alone the fucking Democrats LMAO, will grant this in any real capacity. Social safety nets work with honest homogenous cultures that value hard work and implicitly shame indolence like the Germans, Swedes and Norwegians. We ain't getting National Socialism any time soon in the USA so I refuse to get behind social safety nets beyond overloading the current evil System.

>>60627288
Getting Democrats elected will defund these unhinged greedy trolls though.

>>60622705
>In short? You did a lot wrong, you are effectively stealing from society and creating a burden on everyone around you, even those you love.
This is all true.
Yet, this is NOT, i repeat : NOT, my problem. It's yours.
t. NEET

>>60627261
Re-read my posts. I have never collected a single NEETbuck in my life. I have been gainfully employed for 20 years and have a decent paying career that I tolerate and even occasionally enjoy. I do live with my parents but it is to save money because it is impossible to buy a house where I live and I'm merely saving until a crash happens. Again, if you're truly self-sufficient on your own land and really only have to interact with the System to pay your yearly government racketeering tithe (property taxes) then you're about as far from a slave as it's possible to currently be given the parameters we are working with here and I respect and envy you.

>>60627276
We 100% are all slaves to the System in some way except for literal hermits/squatters on public land in the woods that no one bothers.

>>60626899
Holly based dubs, go trigger them!

>>60627305
Define "unhinged, greedy trolls". Do you mean the shadowy ruling class, NEETs themselves or the guy you're replying to? If it's the former then you're playing into their hands as they control the federal government top to bottom. If the middle, then how will giving out MORE NEETbux to NEETs prevent them from being greedy? If the latter, I don't think he's greedy at all if what he's saying about his own self-sufficiency is true. It's something everyone should strive for but most are too lazy to try.

I think we're all making strawmen out of each other's arguments here and I'm trying to get my bearings again.

>>60626930
>Lmao you're unhinged. Did you use chat gpt?
Oh nonono

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UtRnGn5hc&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD

>>60627344
Nah it's Democrat voting time. I'm not gonna get yelled at by incompetent nasty ass greedy "lunch aides" when I can go to the teacher or principal. I don't need some low iq shill talking about how hard they work when they suck the government tit some other way. It's pathetic. I know I'm playing into their hand, but that's fine, rather have someone who is rational and agreeable than an unhinged freak.

>>60627000
>Not those anons and not a NEET, but the people making money and running society day-to-day are absolutely, 100% slaves, including myself and you. They are running their own Matrix program as both inmates/bluepills and Agents preventing everyone else from getting the real culprits responsible for the state of society. The actual (((masters))) control the money supply itself and thus have no need for it -- they have so much money that they have transcended it. It is a means to an end for them and that end is total control of all assets and resources (including human) on planet Earth. Exchanging the worthless pieces of paper (and soon-to-be completely digital 1s and 0s à la crypto CBDCs) for real assets is Babylonian money magic 101 and the entire world has fallen for it over the last few
Psychobable delulu

I'm not surprised that the NEET thread is somehow full of the worst posters on all of 4chan right now lmao

>>60627406
Midterms are coming up.

>>60627414

>he thinks Congress matters

this is getting even better

neets are part of the larger pattern of participating in life passively. people invest in the markets using index funds instead of actively picking stocks. they constantly consume media by just having stuff "on" talking to them like having a youtube video on in the background or scrolling social media and never posting. they don't have any real in-person relationships, just parasocial relationships through the internet that doesn't require any real participation on their part. food is delivered to your door, instead of having to go out and buy and prepare it. soon enough the delivery person will drop it into your mouth like you are an overgrown hatchling. the neet is the logical conclusion of the passive society that has lost interest in living.

>>60627027
>White men are necessary to upkeep White societi
And we have, yet, another..........
DELUUUUUULUUUUUUUUU!

>>60627418
I know it's new to you but we have elections in America

I think we are in a holding pattern where western countries enter a 30 years war between NEETish warlords and islamic extremists. Baby boomers benefit way too much from the current paradigm to start shit. Urbanized areas are just playgrounds for secular people who are weak prey to muslims just look at NYC. I wouldn't be surprised if monero spawns some legit medieval barons. I would estimate the federal government shatters the moment a big tech can't keep funding their energy bills and starts going bankrupt cause big bitcoin miners are getting into strategic oil reserves.

>>60627442

So this is it, the highlight of a NEEts life

>I'M VOOOOOOTING
>UHGGGHHH IM GONNA VOOOOOOOOTE
>JUST WAIT UNTIL THE DEMOCRATS FINALLY SAVE ME

>>60627468
Never said I was a "neet." But this is why you're an unhinged lunatic.

>>60627468
you're describing a wagie