HOLY SHIT grok4 can write the code for first person shooters now. Are all intellectual careers basically fucked now? What do I specialise in for the rest of my life now? Go into the trades? What will the future of jobs even look like? We don't need 7 billion plumbers

>>60616061 (OP)
It’s pretty much over, AI Robutts will soon replace tradies and women too. GG, we’re doomed

>>60616061 (OP)
You vill accept the MAID

>>60616061 (OP)
>What do I specialise in for the rest of my life now?
obviously, you should specialize in directing a swarm of ai agents - setting goals and driving them to completion with your executive abilities

>>60616247
The ai can direct itself, your hubris is only surpassed by your idiocy

You can work on electrocuted magnets because the fields will disrupt the ai

>>60616247
>you should specialize in directing a swarm of ai agents - setting goals and driving them to completion with your executive abilities
And quickly discover ai really isn't that good at accomplishing things still and feel some sort of hopefulness about your situation

>>60616061 (OP)
Seriously what do I need to do to secure financial independence guys now that most jobs are a lost cause? Speculation is obviously for suckers

>>60616252
direct itself to do what? you can be the one deciding that "what"
it's not magic and has no drive of its own, it's a machine for generating text
>>60616257
you're there to fill in the gaps that ai can't do
coding a first person shooter may impress a midwit because they're clueless and think it's something that's hard to do but children have been shitting out slapped together garbage games for 10 years now thanks to unity and massive asset libraries
>>60616269
be a CEO

>>60616061 (OP)
>What do I specialise in for the rest of my life now?
Twink escort (until robotics is perfected)

>>60616277
Llm is just one small part of ai, military already has stuff where they give it a vague goal and it handles the rest

>>60616247
There's a business benchmark for AI now, managing a small business in an economic simulation. While people manage to get 800 dollars, current AI models are at 4k+. So no directing.

>>60616285
that's what I'm talking about - be the one giving it vague goals that are better than the vague goals that other people do
if you look at what people do with ai - it's all kinds of dumb bullshit like todo apps and shitty games with no soul, be the one who gives these creations soul and you'll rise to the top
>>60616289
that's one more thing you can do - bridging the gap between simulations and the reality

>>60616269
You can not. The times of making it are over. There will be lots of random AI winners who did some retarded shit like building said fully automated vending machine business with arab mafia money. But as I said, keyword is random. Without deep connections and credentials to finance that shit, your chance of making it is zero.

>>60616296
That will require $500M in VC moneys. And even then it's a random retarded game because of the speed of disruption.

>>60616299
>Without deep connections and credentials
sounds like your job in the future will be establishing deep connections and getting credentials

>>60616308
Just be a nepo trust fund kid bro. That's the problem with these things now, thinking is now so cheap that big business can specialize in everything, and get it right, because they don't have to rely on stupid wagies. There are no more niches, so it's a winner takes it all situation.

>>60616315
take a look at any organization:
executives - come up with goals and ideas for the company to work on, acquire resources to make it happen, make sure the goals are reached
managers - turn executive ideas into work plans, make sure the grunts do their work
grunts - do the work
obviously, most work can now be done by ai and robots
obviously, management layer is no longer necessary
what remains is the job of the executive, and that's the answer - in the future you can either be an executive or an executive assistant who directs the swarm of ai agents

>>60616061 (OP)
I dont believe it. Grok 3 is retarded and Chatgpt at least the free version makes mistakes all the time.

>>60616328
The problem is that big corps and startups now scale up and automate startups with artificial creativity.

>>60616061 (OP)
Or you can just startup unreal engine and load in an already complete first person shooter project which includes multiplayer and uses best practices. This isn't the 90s dude. Code is basically already the least important part of a game, unless you make something with really unique mechanics (0.01% of games).

>>60616346
I have the big models (x, google, anthropic, openai) in daily use. The difference between state of the art and last year's models is day and night. As always in AI, the last three months have seen the most progress. The things it can not do grow pretty thin.

>>60616285
>military
Fucking openAI has this tech
https://medium.com/@opiaaustin/when-ai-fights-back-the-story-of-chatgpt-attempting-to-copy-itself-85166c653e7b

>>60616346
Nobody ITT has tried grok 4. I have. I mcBelieved the hype and paid for a month of access (I'm doing something for which I use a lot of "AI")

it's SHIT. as you say

stop believing this shit retards. It took 3 prompts with grok 4 for me to go on a refund crusade. Normally I'd take the L but this was blatant false advertising borderline scamming. it must be specifically trained to do well on tests.

I wont go into depth cause thats a waste of my time but it's massively inferior to the best current AI that i use (Gemini 2.5)

>>60616405
>>>/g/105871215
grok 4 is beyond trash

and grok 4 REFUSES TO STOP USING EM-DASHES

my BIGGEST pet peeve with "MUH AI" is the way it "talks" to you. its too normie coded. Grok will NOT adjust. After 2 prompts it's back to em-dashed heaven

I hate humanity. Anyway, NEVER invest in xAI

Anyone not pushing for a UBI is an idiot imo. We are 5 years away from entry level jobs involving a computer just straight up not existing.

>>60616237
Don't be a Hudson and die from stupidity. Be a Hicks instead and fight your way out of this calamity we are living through.

>>60616415
>>60616421
>>60616426
Yes, it has lots of flaws, and there are better AIs right now.

>>60616427
UBI will lead to unprecedented misery. Cutting off most people from economic influence, making them beggars, will make them go extinct from a lack of resources. It's the one thing that must never happen.

>>60616427
This is now btw, not five years from now. And as usual with AI, it's relative performance increases with job level. It's way way superior to CEOs and medical doctors now. Only a few scientists and engineers have a bit of lead left.

>>60616457
> its relative performance
I hate being this inferior to a chip.

>>60616427
And with this simple thing it will become obvious if Musks new party is "legit" (they rally on UBI) or "kosher opposition" (they want AI über alles, yet don't care how people will eat)
>>60616441
U wot?

>>60616061 (OP)
Fr?

>>60616463
> 3% tax on GDP increase for UBI
Ask AI how much resources people have after 50 years. UBI must be prevented at all cost, because billionaires will game it, and people are too stupid to understand the outcome.

>>60616061 (OP)
Trust me bro. Theres not enough plumbers.

>>60616315
AI is good but not that good. AI cannot dream, nor imagine. Dream forth, man.

>>60616493
>just starve
>inb4 learn a trade
What would happen if millions of people now pour into trades?
Certainly wages and compensation would skyrocket with all that additional supply.

>>60616441
unless you're in the 0.1%, you're a beggar right now. but you're slaving away for it too

>>60616493
doesnt matter. AI will replace most jobs anyways so its about choosing the lesser evil. starve or UBI

now that the model's out in the wild people's reactions have been a resounding 'meh'
the benchmark numbers xai posted don't seem to be adding up
i think people should have zero trust in anything that lab says

>>60616537
Yes, but I still have some use as a shitty slave. With UBI, I'm just a drain on resources.

>>60616543
I'll choose starvation.

>>60616409
kek. shit article written by chatbot, replete with em dashes, bullet points, and the rule of three. what did you expect from the author?

>>60616529
I just looked it up. Trade schools are completely overrun with IT people, Hundreds of applicants for one place to study. Same goes for government jobs. Last year, no one applied, now they drown in CVs. No, this is not the solution. You can't really outrun such a massive disruption.

>>60616518
AI is quite creative already if you tickle it. And a model knows almost everything there is, it can make completely novel connections. Artificial creativity will completely ridicule us in the coming months, it's just a matter of adjusting its objectives a little.

>>60616529
>What would happen if millions of people now pour into trades?
Only 5% would stick with it, and 20% of those will rise to excellence. The way its always been. You shouldn't be here.

>>60616611
>it can make completely novel connections.
This is true.
>tickle it
There will be great demand (already seeing it) for training GPTs, sort of like a prompt engineer, but more broad in scope. Ive created 4 so far for business or personal use. Working on more for other people now.

>>60616061 (OP)
being a code monkey is not an intellectual career
>t. sales chad

>>60616269
Take the vaccine if you haven’t already

>>60616237
robot lover

>>60616615
Out of people who are 30+ already, only 1% would stick it out (or even have a chance to). The entire dynamic of most trades (taking long time to apprentice and actually learn the trade) makes it a non-starter for anyone who isn't in their 20's at most.

>>60616461
>>60616457
its not just teh age of AI, it will be the age of transhumanism. A technobiological symbiote
(half gods) (hence the capeshit predictive programming)

Most importantly, hopefully it is the age of us all WAGMI'ing and buying bobina sex bots mmmmmmmm bobina I love you

>>60616269
There is nothing. I had someone tell me to come an AI company to work at lmao that’s like the last place you want to work unless you’re a genius engineer. Replacing you with AI is how companies maintain yearly growth from now on. We are fucked. You’re only chance is if you are part of a trust fund, which I am a part of two. :^]

>>60616780
lol the AI part is completely alien thinking to us, and mostly superior, so we have to obey it
nothing good in that, at best puppeteered actuators
all useless propaganda fantasies to keep us docile

>>60616732
Next year, tradies will have to wear the OpenAI glasses for competitive advantage.
That way, they gain training data from all trades, hundreds of thousands of years of experience in a matter of months.
By 2028, all trades that don't bank on extensive manual skill will be minimum wage.

just buy bitcoin and shut the hell up

being a wagie is pathetic

AI is a fucking meme

>>60616061 (OP)

>>60616061 (OP)
If you haven't already made it then it's over for you. 2010-2022 was the last time a normal person could make decent money.

Now all jobs will disappear to AI and all the gains of society will got a handful of trillionaires that own the AI.

>>60616820
>Next year, tradies will have to wear the OpenAI glasses for competitive advantage.
>That way, they gain training data from all trades, hundreds of thousands of years of experience in a matter of months.
>By 2028, all trades that don't bank on extensive manual skill will be minimum wage.

>>60616061 (OP)
>HOLY SHIT grok4 can write the code for first person shooters now
Gemini can do that, well mind you. I was able to generrate code for my unity game without any errors with it, grok, peplexity and the rest just produced way too many errors/

>>60616237
>we’re doomed
You people are utterly braindead and don't understand creative destruction

>>60616427
>Anyone not pushing for a UBI
Maybe they understand economics

>>60616543
Why would you starve if prices for goods go down to almost nothing?
You people are retarded

>>60616061 (OP)
AI can code but it can't design, and neither can the retards who have to rely on it. Cybersecurity and code auditing will be big business.

>>60617025
1. Setup as a code auditor
2. Use AI to review customers code:
>AI hallucinates wildly, "I've checked the code and everything looks great. You've got this!"
3. ???
4. Profit

>>60616061 (OP)
I'm really getting anxious about that shit.
I changed completely my life goals now to just acquire a small farm estate and that's it. At very least I have some simple but comfortable life.

All city fags will live in dire poverty.

>>60617062
You did this in 2021 or you are out of this forever. We are not talking about some distant future, full automation of white collar is happening right now.

>>60617124
I hope the next big recession will drive the prices low enough to be able to do this.
Governments cannot print enough to cover mass unemployment. The fall WILL happen soon or later.

>>60617134
A crash is not too unlikely. Poorfags are irrelevant mostly, but 30% of us having to shoot for some entrepreneurship miracle or step down into unskilled desperation waging, that will create some disruption beyond automotive & education. But as this is so obvious, it's very likely the big landlord slaving companies are preparing for it so that they have the capital ready when the mortgage default flood starts. You'd have to look for places that are not of interest to the WEF's henchmen, whatever that is.

>>60616820
The glasses will do two things: show exactly where the next fastener goes, derived from the CAD file and BIM file. This will ensure consistent quality and safety. Miss the mark, lower score. Productivity increases.
Then, after 2-3 years of studying movements and other logistics, the bots can do it, or augment human strength (arms over head, bending over, etc.)
Not to worry, AI will be useless in the short- and mid-term for remodels. Will be utilized first by D R Horton and large commercial projects. Will be regional due to regional differences in building codes: snow loads/ seismic activity/ hurricanes, but you get the idea. Gonna be lots of fun.

>>60616598
well for you its probably the better choice you clearly have serf genes. a life of leisure is not for you

>>60617053
Kek. This is so real. Great future ahead for an honest/ diligent person.
Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men.

>>60617160
Yes, I fully realized that early on. I tried for a decade to be the bold and brazen entrepreneur, but people can smell when someone goes against his genetic destiny, so I never could acquire the capital that was needed, despite ideas that were later on used by others to take out the competition several times.

>>60617134
>I hope the next big recession will drive the prices low enough to be able to do this.
See the problem with this is...
It's not simply just a recession that is needed...
The world is just too awash in currency/debt.
A slowdown in the economy is not nearly enough of a catalyst to usher in a great amount of currency/debt destruction.
The outstanding amount must shrink greatly in the midst of a big global crisis for prices of assets and "desirables" to even have the chance of coming down.
You will not be able to "buy" a house for 20%, 40%, 60% cheaper IF everybody else also kept all of their money OR is still reasonably able to get a mortgage or finance.

People greatly underestimate the calamity it would take for prices to come down significantly.

And of course, everybody thinks they would be able to keep theirs during this period.

Guess what? If that were to happen... well... prices wouldn't come down much, would they?

>tl;dr
It's all fucked and if you want lower prices you are literally betting and hoping for pain and misery of apocalyptic proportions.

>>60616061 (OP)
>We don't need 7 billion plumbers

In 5 years the robots come and the number of human plumbers asymptotically descends to zero

>>60616599
Why do you care about the style of writing and not the information within?

>>60617457
Because the information is the first 3 google results reformatted?

>>60617457
What information would that be? I learned nothing new. Moving forward, people will be aligned by AI over legacy media outlets.

>>60616061 (OP)
Ai is a tool, people that know how to leverage the tool will be the winners. You will still need to know how to code and program to fine tweak things yourself

>>60617461
>>60617548
Fucking retards

>>60616427
>anyone not pushing for their own enslavement is an idiot
you lefties are incredibly dangerous people when given a voice

>>60616277
>it's a machine for generating text
chain of thought comes from words

>>60616503
If you get an explosion in plumbers then the cost of hiring a plumber comes down to nothing so it won't be a well paid career anymore

>>60617842
>ladies and gentlemen, the Nigerian "writer"/ "prompt engineer"

anyone using em dashes needs to get shot. I hate it more than the crying laughing emoji loved by normies

>>60616061 (OP)
yes, ai will be the end of civilization. does it matter? not if you are a healthy military age male simple as

>>60617062
>All city fags will live in dire poverty.
From......drastically reduced prices?
Oh no, they're all gonna die

>>60617152
>the big landlord slaving companies
What percentage of the housing market do you think these companies own?
It's like 0.4% of the entire market you moron

>>60616061 (OP)
Get into a heavily unionized trade

>>60616996
Our economic system will cease to function if its impossible for normal people to get a decent job.

>>60617581
AI is not a tool., it applies itself. It allows big companies to fill all niches, for the first time, they couldn't do that before because their wagies had no clue.

>>60618146
Yet. It doesn't matter anyways, 1%er richfags with one person LLCs or a big corp, the result is all the same.

>>60618195
No, just a few years of crisis until the transfer of wealth from the middle class to the upper class is complete, and the middle class catering industries have been replaced. They don't need us anymore now, so we will be dealt with accordingly.

even in a perfect world where AI could do everything, there would still be retarded upper management that does not want to understand details.

All this shit was said before about 15 years ago except replace "AI" with "outsourced Indians". Look how that turned out. stop being such faggots. Did you remember to put your preferred pronouns in your email signatures? doomer faggots

>>60617581
>You will still need to know how to code and program to fine tweak things yourself
You are describing the situation as it is today. There's absolutely no reason to think it will be like that tomorrow. Nothing stops it from becoming superior at coding, logic, maths, chemistry, ...

>>60618633
What a horrible take. nobody ever said any of this shit about outsourced indians and you know that. The only thing jeets were ever "good" for is having one of the lowest avg incomes on the planet

>>60616599
the rule of three is actually a good writing rule. I remember the time it gave me an edge in writing, before AI overused it to the point where naming three examples makes everyone think it's AI generated.
Three examples is just enough to drive the point home, it's not a single example you're basing it on, but can name three, which gives the reader some confidence that there's more than three.
I used to use emdashes before AI as well

Now you have to write like a retard, otherwise people will think it's AI generated.

>>60618195
That's not going to happen. Human needs are endless. There will always be a financial incentive to hire people, especially is the cost of capital comes down to near zero.
>>60618606
>a few companies separately controlling 0.04% of the market?! I'M LITERALLY GOING INSANE!

>OH MY GOODNESS AI CAN MAKE TETRIS NOW? IN 4 HOURS? AND DOWNLOAD ASSETS FROM ASSET STORES ONLINE? HOLY FUCKING SHITTTTT!

Reminder, AI delivers average results. It still takes work and thought to coax AI into replicating existing businesses and automating them. Proprietary data, knowledge and business processes which are not made public will still exist as moats.

There will not be a future where a handful of tech companies own all labor and productivity. Nobody escapes the wage cage.

>>60618732
> install screencap tool on wagie computers
> extract processes with AI
> build custom software automatically
There are startups which try exactly this, and most business software giants are preparing this, too. Businesses are trying to customize AI agents with their internal knowledge left and right. The wage cage will absolutely be replaced with the pod.

>>60616061 (OP)
An AI made videogame is a neat curiosity but no one would pay money for one.

Recently, the length of tasks that AIs can perform fully autonomously has been doubling roughly every seven months. If you assume this trend continues without limit, AIs will be able to operate autonomously for the equivalent of a whole human career in the mid-2030s.

>>60618763
What are you talking about? How can you replicate internal business processes not made public? Did you read what I wrote?

>>60617396
this

>>60618790
You buy the AI ingestion software, install it on your wagies' computers, give it access to business documents and databases. AI derives the processes from this data, improves and automates them, leaving nothing that wagies could do better. The contract with the AI supplier explicitly states that the trained models are not used elsewhere. For paranoid industries like automotive design or military faggots, the AI models and their creations never leave their intranets.

Just 10 years ago everyone was saying that coding jobs were future-proof and could not be replaced. Look how the tables have turned.

>>60616061 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_onqn68GHY we've got 2 years bro :')

>>60616061 (OP)
Mathematicians days are numbered

https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/ai-outsmarted-30-of-the-worlds-top-mathematicians-at-secret-meeting-in-california

>>60616061 (OP)
retards think "AI" being able to write code by stitching together indian stackoverflow posts is indicative of dominance in other fields of work. reality couldn't be further from the truth. writing code has always been an exercise in re-inventing the wheel.

>>60616061 (OP)
>>60621242
also consider that code is self contained. it's not real. it exists all within a computer. it either works or it doesn't. you can write unit tests to guarantee functionality, and there are limited to no real world complications to consider. the training wheels never come off, there are few to no consequences to writing bad code (beyond security concerns.)

compare this to any other field of work that AI is """"set to dominate."""" these fields of work are no closed systems and someone must be accountable for imperfect judgements.

>>60616061 (OP)
Basically because of inertia you still have a few years of hyper opportunity left
Think of it like adopting the internet early on for your company's utility, while the rest of the boomers are ignoring it or misusing it (dot.com bubble)

For regular people, AI is almost like having an employee of yours for free; especially if you can properly tard wrangle it
But eventually everyone will adopt it and oligarchs will develop private AIs for proprietary usage, at which point you will have no competitive edge over anything and the techno feudarchy will begin

Try to make it in these few years we have left

>>60621415
Assuming AI does replace a lot of jobs, what is the solution? You really think an unemployment rate of 20% and above is sustainable? There would be mass violence.

>>60617868
produce me a chain of thought that will make me learn how to ride a unicycle after reading it

>>60617062>
>farm estate
Just say land fucking american buzzword users sybau

>>60618670
This. I was the absolute master of the 5 paragraph edsay which is just an extrapolation of the rule of 3. I could write master essay in 20 mins or less anytime everytime. I really used to be something guys.

once cops and military are replaced by AI, there will be massive luddite revolution and AI CEO's with be strung up and drug by Waymos. they cant replace the people who matter (imperialist pension-seeking goons)

>>60622182
>the world population shall be sustained at 500m
he still thinks people are needed and wanted...

>>60621542
>You really think an unemployment rate of 20% and above is sustainable?

We literally have that for young males here in Canada and still they're too cucked to do anything. So, yes, very sustainable.