Which way /biz/raelis?

>>60620370 (OP)
Insta 1 million so I can finally afford groceries

>>60620370 (OP)
Easy, six million.

>>60620370 (OP)
Green, I'm feeling lucky.

>>60620370 (OP)
press left 100 times

>>60620396
>>60620390
Kek

I would buy the green button but wouldn't press it. Then I would auction it starting at 1 million.

>>60620370 (OP)
1 million for sure
thats all I need

I could build a house somewhere I like, I could quit work and do more traveling. I could invest most of the rest; I'd be set.

This is a no brainer, 1m. It’s guaranteed money that you didn’t have to work for. You will probably never get another chance like that again. Only degenerate gamblers would risk it for 100m

>>60620370 (OP)
Green button

>>60620370 (OP)
Honestly I'd hit green. 1 million isn't enough to change my life dramatically, and I'm bound to get there on my own within the next 10 years.

>>60620422
now this is SMART

>>60620370 (OP)
The rational choice is green.
>E(red) = 1.0*1M = 1M
>E(green) = 0.5*100M + 0.5*0 = 50M
>50M > 1M

>>60620390
based

>>60620422
How much would the green button cost, retard?

>>60620451
Country of residence, saaar?

>>60620481
>1M > 0

>>60620498
It's not zero.
Don't quote me if you can't basic mathematics.

>>60620481
This. Anyone not picking green is fucking retarded. The other option should be at least $10 million for you to even consider it.

>>60620422
who said theyre selling the buttons? youre pushing nigga, now PUSH ONE

>>60620370 (OP)
I live a very simple life. I own my own condo, do everything myself. My yearly expenses are only like $15,000 if that. If I had that sort of money I could retire.

1 million. I already have over a million and with the extra cash I could quit my job finally. probably spend 200k renovating my house so it’s nice for when my mother moves in since her house is being sold. then invest the rest.

>>60620370 (OP)
50/50 for a 100x is really good, but I'd still go with the 1 mil. if a mil isn't a lot of money for you then go for green.

>>60620370 (OP)
After consulting a coin flip website, I will have to go with red button.
Simply because 1 million is enough to start rolling hard. Yeah you will have to work for a while still, but hey at least you are financially secured and chilling.

>>60620481
retard

>>60620481
your probability won't sooth the pain when you'll press the green button and get nothing while you watch the anon that pressed red get his 1 million and let them grow. But you'll be able to brag to your coworker at mcdonald that you totally almost were multi millionaire.

>>60620513
the rational is that you are poor and always will be because your dumb lizard brain is still controlling your daily life choices.

>>60620370 (OP)
100 million or bust

>>60620495
usa, best country on earth

>>60620608
>envy-driven "man" emits opinion
Grim.

>>60620513
So riddle me this: Would you rather have 1 quintillion dollars guaranteed, or a 50% chance of 100 quintillion dollars?
If you choose the former you are by your logic fucking retarded.

>>60620637
>already imagining revenge fantasy as he pictures himself with his 100m
yup, you're a retarded gambling addict who would walk away with empty pocket and blame the jews for that

>>60620370 (OP)
Is this about exit strategy and not getting stuck bagholding?

>>60620370 (OP)
Green. Then again I went to prison lol

>>60620370 (OP)
turning $1m into $100mil is not a problem, it's getting the first serious capital that is the issue

>>60620370 (OP)
Red. Ill turn it into 100mil under my own odds

>>60620422
This. Sell the option to push the button. Should be worth close to $50 million. Some casion or bank will take the other side.

>>60620474
You could get 1m right now guaranteed for doing nothing and just tuck it all away into an index fund and in 10 years you’d have way more than 1m.

>>60620370 (OP)
>get 9 people to agree to splitting the right button any number of times it hits
>if it only hits once you all get $10 million

>>60620649
it's a metaphor for holding btc/alts

>>60620370 (OP)
Keep slapping the green button. I dont see any slap limit specified.

>>60620396
Press right 100 times

>>60620370 (OP)
I ask this question to anyone I consider doing business with in any way whatsoever. I avoid the red button pressers like the plague. To elaborate: the average press on green is worth 50M, the average press on red is 1M. The real winners in this life ALWAYS press the green button. They acknowledge they must lose, and are fine if they do usually, because they know it is the right choice.

>>60621031
they may lose*

>>60620481
>E(red) = 1.0*1M = 1M
>E(green) = 0.5*100M + 0.5*0 = 50M
>50M > 1M
Variance matters though. $50 million guaranteed is worth more than a 50% chance of $100 million.

>>60621031
you cant risk losing if losing means death. you can only press green if you already have a safety net

>>60620792
now this is the big brain move

sell your button press to some rich gambler like dana white or michael jordan

>>60621024
>slaps you as you go for a second
NO SECOND SLAPS

>>60620574
I'm in the middle far-right

>>60620370 (OP)
Red button because 1 million is life changing money and I'll never have to work again. I just don't need 100 million, and it frankly won't make that much of a difference. I don't need big mansions, lambos and private jets. Besides, I can put half of it into bitcoin in the next bear market and make lots more. Green button only makes sense if you're already rich.

Holy shit these replies are retarded...

>>60621119
1 million is not life changing unless you're dirt poor.

>>60621171

$1m × .043 = $43,000/yr in T-Bills.

>>60621055
> 20 years later
> wonder about what could have happened if you press green
> eat yourself alive

>>60620370 (OP)

50% of 100 million.

One Hundred million is enough to guarantee a good retirement for an entire extended family.

One million is not enough to guarantee a good retirement for one person

>>60621171
If you have less than 100k to your name, it's absolutely life changing.

>>60620574

Green literal midwit option, dumb/genius go red

This is a known phenomena and called utility theory
>The utility of money diminishes as a person gains more money, for example the utility of the first $400,000 the contestant receives may be worth much more than the next $600,000 received.
You're welcome. Someone's first million is life changing, each additional million not as much.

>>60621171
Biz is so out of touch with reality, 1 million isn't what it used to be, but it's still an assload of money that can be compounded easily. The overwhelming majority of people will never hit close to 1 million after an entire life of working...this also applies to white collar Americans as well.

>>60621055
i would have pressed green 10 years ago as a brokie. i made it in the meantime. red pressers are never gonna make it, they lack the balls to take the risks required

>>60620370 (OP)
1 million now. Yeah, I know.

>>60621299
Nothing wrong with getting 1 million now, then investing that into btc during the next bear market, then getting a 5-10x outta that.

logical choice is right

>>60621336
even better: invest 50M for a 5-10x

>>60621344
Tempting, but imagine if you press green and end up with nothing, that would be rope fuel. With 1 million you can easily turn that into something.

>>60621185
>press red
>retire in some cheap gookland with a cute asian waifu to suck your dick forever
>meanwhile green presser lost and is stuff as a walmart wagie for life

>>60621355
as i explained, should not be rope fuel. i can pat myself on the back if i lose this bet, because i know i made the best choice from a statistical perspective. this is the part people dont understand more than anything

>>60620370 (OP)
i push the green button 10000 times since there is no rule against it

>>60621370
the question (commonly asked) implies you can only press one time

>>60621369
Would you still have this same opinion back when you were a brokie? Assume that the person pressing the button has nothing.

>>60621381
YES, i have known about this question for about 15 years and specifically said i would have pressed it 10 years ago as well. its a personality trait. one of those who make it. this all being said if my mom was dying from cancer and needed money for treatment i would press the 1M. i assure you, everyone at the top presses green

>>60621369
Using stats for a problem like this doesnt really make sense imo, the most logical choice to me is limiting the downside. Besides, God will punish you for being greedy so really its a 100% 1m or a 100% 0

>>60621185
> 20 years later
> wonder why you didn't just press red and grow the 1m rather than being greedy with green and gotten nothing
> eat yourself alive as you put the fries in the bag

>>60621491
i already explained, i dont mind losing if i made the right choice. settling for a FIFTIETH is objectively retarded, sorry (unless you urgently need the money)

>>60621502
anon, that's not the right choice if you got nothingin the end, this is female level of cope

>>60621491
>>60621366
>>60621185

>Slowly lose your mind
>Start eating other people
>Get a promotion in your wage cage
>White walls become a canvas
>White straps cuddle you like the long lost embrace of your mother
>Whispers of sweet nothings from beyond the door
>Sleep, you're safe now...

>>60621278
>The utility of money diminishes as a person gains more money

This.
I already have a million.
I will get another million in time, so red button just moves me forward in time.
I will NOT get a 100 million unless I press the green button, so I press the green button.

1 Million easily. Stop renting. Buy a 3 bedroom place. Invest the rest. Keep working.

If I lost the 50 50 I'd probably rope

>>60621278
well put
for me it's 1 million every time
if it was $1000 or 50% chance of $100,000? I'm pressing green all day

>>60620370 (OP)
Left.

Immediately solves most of my problems and I can probably live just fine on that for a long time.

>>60621642
/thread

>>60621513
no choosing the red button is typical female. FAR more men would press green, for sure, no doubt.

>>60621669
Would you bet 1m on a shitcoin?

>>60621669
what are you smoking? pressing green is not rational and women are known to be irrational and short sighted. A husband would immediately choose red already thinking about all the safe ways he could compound that money while the wife would yell hysterically telling him to press green as her mind races thinking about all the vapid selfies of herself flying in private jet she could post on social media.

>>60621684
for this one i actually have evidence. now respectfully if you could go suck a dick

>>60620370 (OP)
Instant 1 million, more than plenty to build out a dividend portfolio to live comfortably on. I have no interest in yachts or super cars, I don't need 100 million.

>>60621701
>put men in front of a slot machines with no stakes
>inject them with hormones
>wow, they are far more risk averse!
this is completely tangential and you need to shut the fuck up

>>60621727
i am not trying to argue with you as a pissing contest. i am trying to educate you. because clearly you have no idea how to use risk to reward ratios to your advantage. you wanna stay dumb and stubborn go ahead, but i am right

>>60621055
This. You really have to consider what you currently have. If you already have a million, fuck the red button it only doubles your money.
If you literally have nothing then both will turn your life around but one is guaranteed.

>>60620370 (OP)
1 million isn't enough, rather do green, it's either a massive win or shit is back to normal

>>60621735
i have 1m that I am compounding and you have nothing because you are an hysterical woman who pressed green. Nothing else you're going to say matter, just like it doesn't matter whether you had the right of way when you crossed the road without looking left and right and got hit by a car. Not put the fries in the bag.

>>60621746
its the histerical choice to press red. its objectively the more cowardly of the two. you are a coward and you are defending cowardice

>>60621737
You dont have nothing tho, you have 1m and you can chooses to bet it on a 50-50 100x or walkaway

if your networth is less than 3m and you press green you deserve to die poor

yes risk taking is essential, but so is bankroll management. you cant afford to lose 1 million dollars on a chance, just like how the best poker player in the world would never risk 1/3rd of his bankroll in a single game(unless he's retarded)

>>60621780
>ego before rationality
thank you for confirming that you are indeed a woman. Now put the fries in the bag.

1 mil will set me up for life. I'm a frugal bastard.

pressing the green button costs 1 million dollars in current money. yes you will never get another chance in your life to 50x(on average) your money, but through proper management that 1mil could be grown to 10m someday

so really the cost is far greater than it appears

>>60620495
saar do not redeem the thumbnail saar

>>60621376
i imply you are gay

>>60621799
"I used to talk about a related subject with a very big (and very successful)
gambler I've known for many years. He said "if a man came in and offered to
lay me 10 to 1 on the flip of a coin for all the money I had in the world ... I
WOULDN'T take it." He said he just couldn't liquidate everything he's got -
all of his property and his cash. He wouldn't risk losing it all. It would be over
a million dollars. He wouldn't do it even if he thought he could get hold of
another million.
*Your Straight-Flush draw gives you 15 wins and you have five more wins
with the 3-Sixes and 2-Sevens that are still In the dock. Of course, the
assumption here Is that your opponent's hand doesn't improve.
But, I'd do it. I surely would. I'd just have to. I couldn't pass up the
opportunity to take 10 to 1 on an even?money shot. I'd do it because I have
enough confidence in myself that I'd be able to come up with another million
if I lost." - Super System (Doyle Brunson, Super System)
https://pokerbooks.lt/books/en/07_01_en.pdf

>>60621803
No ego here. Pure logics. 1 press is worth on average 50M, the other is worth on average 1M. It is the logical, statistically correct choice. Odds are immensely larger you put fries in bags than me, considering you make poor choices

>>60620481
I'm going to flip a fair coin until it comes up heads. You receive $2^(number of flips). Since the expected value of this is infinite, you should be willing to pay me your life savings to play this game.

>>60620370 (OP)
Red, I'm not a gambler

>>60621966
>1 press is worth on average 50M, the other is worth on average 1M
it doesn't matter when you only get one attempt you dumb fuck, you have survivorship bias. You're the same kind of retarded nigger who think a 1/10 odd of winning means that you automatically win at the 10th attempt.

> Odds are immensely larger you put fries in bags than me, considering you make poor choices
you literally went home empty handed while I got a guaranteed 1m.

>>60620390
that sounds like way too many in too short of a time frame

>>60621990
you are arguing over wanting to be right, i am arguing over logic. nothing you say refutes the fact one is 1M and the other is 50M. if you are too much of a pussy to take the shot i respect that, but dont be acting like its the statistically more profitable choice. at 10% chance of losing and 500M it would be a completely different story though: low odds, not worth it

>>60622003
10% chance of winning

>>60622003
>i am arguing over logic
>if you are too much of a pussy
there is no logic playing russian roulette just to prove that you're not a pussy you mongoloid. Once again, put the fries in the bag and shut the fuck up while wealthy people talk.

>>60622017
why are you so mad? its ok to be a pussy. but having a cactus lodged so far up your anus permanently is too much. perhaps you can visit a doctor?

>>60622027
I am mad the same way a parent is mad at the dumb shit an ignorant little brat with zero foresight insists on proclaiming. You would rather be poor and appear strong to other people who don't even think twice about your dumb ego driven life choices.
Even if you got lucky and hit the 100m you would lose it all in even dumber ways because your inability to make grounded decision is how you got 100m in the first place.
You're the equivalent of an option trader that turn 1000 dollars into 1m then subsequently lose it all while people ask why the fuck he didn't walk away with the 1m. But the reason he didn't take those 1m is the same reason he made those in the first place: he was a shortsighted retard.

tldr: you are poor and always will be because you have a lesser intellect.

>>60620649
I get what your logic here, but functionally, there is not difference between a quintillion dollars and 100 quintillion. 100 million is an infinitely different lifestyle than 1 million. The higher both numbers are, the less the green button matters. 1 million just means you have a middle class retirement account and 100 million puts you on a private jet tonight

>>60622074
geez so mad. making a lot of assumptions too. i am pretty sure you think all the assumptions you are making are right too. you seem schizophrenic. i am not joking. i am serious. you have mental issues. get help

>>60622131
But they are right. You either have money or you don't and you don't because you picked green. You can dance around the pot as much as you want, nothing changes the fact that I have 1m and you have nothing.

>>60622173
thank you for calming down. i am going to stop arguing with you now despite being confident i am right. i suggest you do the same. maybe you dont need help if you can regain composure. this being very mad is not good for you champ, no need for it. poisoning yourself for nothing

>>60620370 (OP)
Red button obviously, maybe if I already had a few million I'd press green.

>>60622186
your gaslighting won't change the fact that I have 1m and you have nothing. I can give you spare change if you need to take the bus to see your copechiatrist with who you share about having passed on life changing money for a chance at making even more because the odds looked good and your primitive brain shuts off its prefrontal cortex like it always does when in front of money, sex and food

>>60622216
>you have nothing
this is the type of shit that makes me think you are a schizo. what proof do you have except for your delulu? i didnt read the rest of your text by the way (i also didnt read your larger block 2 messages ago)

>>60622222
you sure reply fast for someone who was supposedly going to stop arguing with me
>what proof do you have except for your delulu?
the fact that you pressed green, it's the entire premise of the post but I get that for somebody as shortsighted as you a premise might as well be background noise.

>>60622222
checked

>>60622231
i am concerned about your mental health, thats why. being stupid and a pussy is one thing but being delulu and imagining a bunch of things based purely on your assumptions, building layers upon layers on nothing. you are not sane. and you are obsessive. you had a moment of normal behavior and have since then regressed, it seems that your calm was the exception, i revise my perspective

>>60622244
>what being greedy and spending life changing money to push a losing button in hope of making even more does to a mofo
grim

>>60621182
There are college students who make that a month in AI scams

>>60620370 (OP)

WOW the HUGE difference in perceived wealth.
You start with nothing... no matter what,you are no worse off.
One million dollars is a large amount of money BUT any intelligent USA citizen that saves regularly should easily make more than this by retirement.
100 million is far outside the amount that even USA citizens will ever make.
An extra million would be nice, but NOT life changing.
100 million is life changing and the odds are 50%.
Would go for the green button EVERY time.
Yes, I already have over 1 million in my retirement fund.

>>60620451
hello saar

> which way white man?
100MM no hesitation for a second

>>60622125
But that's the thing: Not all of us in here want to get a private jet. A lot of us are eager to just escape the wage cage for good which the million could definitely expedite. Why would we throw that away for a CHANCE at an absurd sum we don't need?

>>60620370 (OP)
red one. once you have a certain amount of money it gets significantly easier to make way more money at an accelerated rate.

>>60620370 (OP)
You have to be a literally retarded 3rd worlder to not press green, the estimated value of pressing green is insanely higher.

>>60620390
Soon

>>60620390
but that's impossible, proof?

>>60622313
This. Only poor wagies with no real world skills think red is a sensible option.

> in this thread low time preferences negroids who don't understand risk
Red is the correct answer here. Anyone who answers otherwise IQ is too low to understand compounding.

>>60620370 (OP)
Better question
Red: 95% chance 1 million
Green: 30% chance 100 million

>>60620370 (OP)
>50% 100 million
>even if I lose I still get 50 million
lol what kind of moron made this?

>>60622573

Better question:
99% chance $100 million
1% chance $1 million

There is no casino or bookmaker in the world that will give you 1:100 odds to flip a coin, your value is 50x higher picking green. Can't imagine how retarded you are to not see this.

>>60622341
I completely agree with you. I'm just taking the 1 million. The point the other guy was making was that there needs to be a realistic difference between the two or the thought puzzle is dumb. The gamble is only worth it if the green button is high enough. If you made it 1 billion and 100 billion, then it's obvious why you'd never gamble it. 1 million actually gives you a sense of regret.

>>60622579
Retarded ESL jeet

>>60620390
That math doesn’t add up

>>60620481
The EV is higher, doesn't mean it's necessarily more rational, smoothbrain.

The question would be better if it was 1 million for the red button and 80% chance for 100 million hitting the red button

>>60622771
Green button I meant

1 million dolards

>>60620390
based

>>60620390
>prussian blues in your path