Ridges Keep Dishonest Men Honest Edition

>Why Gold & Silver?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI [Embed]
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A [Embed]
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo [Embed]

>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitable
https://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos [Embed]

>Bullion dealers
https://libertycoin.com/(US)
https://www.chards.co.uk/(EU/UK)
https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/(Ancient)
https://www.luciteria.com/(Other rare metals)
more at:https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Numismatic search
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

>News and graphs
https://numismag.com/en/home-en/
https://silverseek.com/
https://www.silverdoctors.com/
https://www.mining.com/
https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silver
https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/(US)
https://eu.compare.pm/(EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/(DE/EU)

>Resources
https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
https://www.coinflation.com/
http://coinapps.com/
https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation/
https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa/
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM [Embed]
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-minerals
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo [Embed]
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY [Embed]
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k [Embed]
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database

Previous Thread: >>60623553

>>60628632 (OP)
I wonder how many Lara Croft tiers there will be when the time comes.

>>60628632 (OP)
You're all low IQ, that's why you don't have 15 Bitcoin

>>60628632 (OP)
did anyone catch the recent sal video where someone made a jew ridges comment and he acted like he didn't know what they meant?

>>60628681
No bro but nice thread picture:)

They're here! They're here!

>>60628713
Very nice sir.

Some pre posted coins. I'll make some new pictures soon:)

>>60628695
This picture has always given me great comfort.

>>60628738
/attempted fistbump:P

>>60628782

>>60628774
very cool, what is it made of?

>>60628738
now try this one

jesus knows your suffering and promises a way out

>>60628837
Awh nice:)

>>60628885
It's just a cheap temu box but I like it.
Excellent picture though:)

>>60628695
>>60628738
i thought so too
me too

If silver were a good investment they wouldn't have to shill it nonstop stop

If Silver were a bad investment people wouldn't have used it as money for all of human history.

>>60628640
>don't have 15 Bitcoin
You don't either. You'll never prove it, because you can't.
>>60628675
>>60628729
>>60628774
>>60628782
Nice pics.
>>60628954
If bitcoin were a good investment they wouldn't have to shill it nonstop stop.
See, you have no self awareness.

>>60628695
>>60628757

>>60628979
Ty:)

>>60628988
Fantastic.<3
Nn French.

>>60628989

won one of my auction cheapie slurps, seven or perhaps eight smallish forks. might actually be worth eBaying them out as individuals

>>60628979
You lost Buttcoin mod

>>60629039
nice slurp

Don't forget yall the IRS considers silver to be a collectable you owe up to 37% tax when you sell it...lmao terrible

Crypto dorks will seethe. It's a greater fool game, and if it makes them mad that we refuse to play then that means we're on the right path buying silver.
You don't see this sort of counter-thread narrative in the trading card thread (God bless the based Charzard collector).

>>60629127
What kind of cuck would willingly pay a tax? You? Of course.

Threadly reminder that silver and gold are capital gains tax free in the vast majority of cases in the US. Unless you're selling actual collectibles with real numismatic value.

>>60629258
IQ's constant misunderstanding of US taxes proves he's a homeless person on welfare.

can't wait for ICE to find him and trump to deport him.

if you're a retired old man with a big hoard of gold coins, you could easily live off of them while paying zero tax.

>>60629358
I got this boomer relative that says
>If they don't 1099 me I don't owe taxes
I'm not a tax lawyer so I don't know if that's true
but I'm guessing boomers don't pay taxes unless they have to.

>>60628638
Does anyone have the meme chart with how much gold and silver you need to make it?

How much gold and/or silver do you consider decent tier frens?

Recent pickups: Can anyone ID the super toned bar in the bottom middle? It has “ASR” stamped in the top left corner of it, which I’ve taken to mean “Alaskan Smelting & Refining Co.”, but I haven’t seen any bars of theirs with the same stamp. Any help would be much appreciated.

If anyone remembers, I was getting my sister a bear themed graduation gift and I settled on the 1/3oz gold piece in the top right. I also have a couple miscellaneous silver grizzly rounds, of course

>>60629175
Why do they keep beating your shit investment then?

>>60629520
not familiar with your bar but I do know
American Smelting and Refining Company
which is ASARCO

ASARCO has a long history starting in Leadville and Kellogg

I'd guess an ingot from those guys would be worth a fortune.

>>60629520
good shot of the ASR would help google searching

>>60629520
I can't see the stamp on yours

>>60629607
Then why are you still wageslaving while collecting an "investment" that hasn't even beat inflation over the past 15 years?

>>60629373
It's a nonsensical statement, but the idea sounds like don't declare earnings unless the other guy has to report paying you. Which is fair. Nobody with any sense pays taxes they don't have to. There's no honor in the income tax game. The government has no problem fucking with your head to see if you'll pay taxes they know you don't owe.

>>60629373
even if you did everything by the book, you pay no capital gains on anything as long as your total income is below some threshold

How did Canada go from being a real nation with real money to being the cucked shithole with fake dollars and worthless steel coins it is now in the span of 50 years?

>>60629607
This is a really stupid meme.
The slaves that exist today don't have virtual currency.
If you followed a strategy of "buy a little bit of virtual currency if people are talking about it", then you made bank.

There's no historicity to it. A meme like this shitting on fiat being debt based might have some depth to it.

Ultimately all the virtual currencies are all voluntary so far.

It's a really retarded meme.

>>60629402
There is no such chart. There are about 30 tier charts though. This one seems to be the de facto standard here.

>>60629417
The question about how much you need to 'make it' depends on personal factors. My take is to figure out exactly how much in expected expenses for six months I have, add a "comfortable" buffer for my lifestyle and local economy, and figure out how that translates to ounces of the metal(s) of my choice (Au, Pt, Ag, Cu). That should sustain me for the worst of whatever midden hits the windmill. Use the current prices for your PM(s) of choice to figure out how many ozt of each or a mix. Real-life numbers: I need $4k/month, so $24k in metals. Maybe you'd be comfortable with three months' in expected bills and you only need $2k/mo. . It's up to you.

House: Paid for, but still need $11k in city/county taxes per year, so 920
House insurance (I no longer pay into escrow, which paid it): 2235/12 = 187
Cell phones (2): 80
Land line (don't judge): 78
Comcast (TV, Internet): 256
Natural gas (Stove, heat, water): 60
Electric: 120
Newspaper: 15
Credit card (Costco, clothing, everything we can because % cash back is about $60/mo): about 2,000
Car insurance: 94
Total: 3690 - close enough to 4k for brevity and wiggle room for ice cream and occasional fun.

>>60628988

>>60629697
phone is free if you have internet, they make boxes with ethernet+phone ports on them for this purpose

>>60629729
>>60629697
>Maybe you'd be comfortable with three months' in expected bills and you only need $2k/mo. . It's up to you.

>>60629520
https://vintagepouredbar.com/2020/10/09/western-states-refining/

Western States Refining
Big fan of this old refiner out of Fontana, CA. They operated from 1975-1983 and have quite a following among vintage collectors. They made vintage silver rounds in 1 oz, as well as poured bars ranging from 5 oz up to 100 oz class.

>>60629692
k crypto chud
go away now

/pmg/, what's the most metal you've seen in one place?
For me I'd say that it was when my LCS had a 1000 ozt. bar of Silver on display.

>>60629805
nice

>>60629826
in 1980 my uncle bought a standard ton of silver in engelhard bars. Not sure what size, they were something like 50lbs each. It filled the bed of his toyota. He stacked it under his couch, a big sectional that took up the whole room.

I'd guess that was at least 29,000 ounces of silver.

I've seen probably 500lb bars of gold before at a mine site. But I'm not allowed to say much about that.

>>60628632 (OP)

>>60629683
Kek, US cupro nickel isnt far behind

>>60629821
See this guy
>>60629881
Has a vastly better meme.

>>60629914
True, 2 cents of cupronickel isn't much different from a fraction of a cent worth of cheap steel.

>>60629587
>>60629571
Shoot sorry I tried uploading a better picture earlier, but I guess it didn’t go through

>>60629805
Yes!! Thank you so much for that! I’m not too far away from there so that’s neat

How will you react if we dump back down to 25?

>>60629672
only true for long term capital gains
short term gains are taxed at your income rate regardless of if your a poorfag or elon musk

>>60628632 (OP)

>>60630060
watching people on the internet discuss financial instruments is like people starting wars over what number you should bet in roullette and using the fact they won after going all in one time as evidence

>>60630038
I think you know

>>60630060
It's even worse than that. They owe up to 50% taxes on the metal on what is an inflationary gain

looks like silver bottomed there

>>60628979
Bitcoin has no marketing department. The CEO of Bitcoin fired them all because they weren't necessary; people are buying it without any marketing.

>>60630334
TV, YoouTube, newspapers, billboards, mail everywhere you look there are paid shills telling you to buy gold and silver. And then pmg spends their life repeating the coin merchants talking points like it's some kind of secret knowledge. Brainwashing in action

Some of you are alright, don't invest in bitcoin

https://www.cyphertux.net/articles/en/research/ecdsa-nonces-lattice-attacks-bitcoin-exploit

TL;DR US government paid a firm to figure out how to hack old bitcoin accounts. They are claiming anyone sitting on old bitcoins has abandoned them and the US government can just take that money because it's a national emergency threat for people to have billions in theoretical currency.

>>60630408
haha wtf surely that can't actually be a realistic to pull off exploit

Anyone ever gotten a PO box for getting gold shipped to? Or is there another way to hide your address from the seller?

>>60630645
You could set up a P.O. box or go to a LCS.

>>60630685
I hate doing big wires to lcs. The guy I like doing wires for has retard premiums and the other shop I trust, well I don’t trust them enough to buy a big amount from

>>60630700
Pay with cash

>>60630334
>>60630358

>>60629543
>beating

>>60630742
Silver lost 70% to inflation before taxes in the last 45 years. Shit investment

>>60630640
As long as the initial randomness is true random it should be sorta impossible. But a lot of computer randomness is built on pseudo randomness.

>>60629683
Jews and they way they did it was extremely Jewish silently cutting the silver down from 80% to 50% in mid 1967 then from 50% to 0 the next year

>>60630801
oh i read more that you need the wallet so basically nothing. only true morons would lose their wallet to a "hacker"

>>60629694
Bless you fren that’s the exact one I have been looking for years

>>60630764
>Shit
Yes, we're aware of the quality of food you eat. You don't have to keep reminding us.

>>60629694
>>60630883

>>60630727
Listen zoomer, some of us drop 50k on this stuff

>Here is a little story illustrating exponents in the real world.
There happens to be a particular species of pond lily that is extremely prolific. In fact it grows so fast that it doubles in size through both growth and reproduction in just one day.

We will start with a pond of a surface area of 4096 square feet, or about 64 feet square. We will place within that pond one lily with an area of of one square foot; that is, a lily that is a square of 12 x 12".

This pond contains fish, which would like to live in symbiosis with the algae and other growing plant material within the pond. In order to do some part of the pond's surface must be exposed to the air so that oxygen and carbon dioxide can be exchanged, and some part of the pond's surface must be open to the sun, or the algae that make up a good part of the food the fish eat (we will assume they do not eat the lilies directly) can survive. The lilies will conveniently consume the urea (nitrogen) that the fish excrete, preventing the pond water from becoming poisonous. So long as this symbiosis is maintained all is fine. But if this symbiotic relationship fails all the fish will die.
We are the fish, incidentally, and the lilies are debt.

Now here's the question: Will the fish inevitably die and if so how long, in days, will pass before they perish?

That's easy.

On the first day there is 1 square foot of pond that is covered.
On the second, 2
On the third, 4.
On the fourth, 8.
On the fifth, 16.
On the sixth, 32.

>continued
Note that on the 6th day just 0.8% of the pond is covered with lilies. You would not detect any problem on the sixth day, I suspect. More than 99% of the pond is open to the sky!

Now here's the nasty truth: If you're a fish you're halfway to being dead!

Wide awake yet? I hope so; let's continue.

On the seventh day 64 square feet are covered.
On the eighth, 128.
On the ninth, 256.
On the tenth, 512.

The pond is now 12.5% covered. More than 80% of the surface area is open to the sky. When you hear someone say "we have 80% of our resource left; we can't be in trouble", consider exactly where you are. Why? You'll see in a moment....

On the eleventh day, 1024 square feet are covered.
On the twelfth, 2048.
On the thirteenth day there is no surface open to the sky and every fish in the pond dies.

When did you figure out you're in trouble? Was it on the twelfth day? Well if so you had literally less than 24 hours to commit mass lilicide or you're all dead! You literally can't spend one day debating with your fellow fish even though you still have half the surface area open to the sky on that 11th day.

This is the nature of exponents folks.
>Thanks the the Market Ticker.org

>>60630965
>>60630969
Speaking of ponds I weeded one yesterday. And I don't even fish in it.

locking in a milestone for next month's distributions. that will be two for next month.

>>60630645
use virtual mailbox. $10/mo. physical street address.

you can get the same at the post office ("premium PO box" but its expensive.

>>60631133
reminder you and also use virtual mailboxes to get a free set of these sent to you if you live in US.
>>60629030
>>60628988
instructions in video description
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPoBUoagO_k

>he didn't buy tellurium while it was cheap

>>60631133
reminder you can also use virtual mailboxes to get a free set of these sent to you if you live in the US. you have to send prepaid shipping label if outside US.

>>60629030
>>60628988
instructions in video description
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPoBUoagO_k

>>60631179
What's the contact email address again? The trail videos are pretty good!

Theres no good reason to buy silver but the least bad option is an ETF SIVR

Platinum up today
IQELITE platinum/paladium pick SBSW up 3% premarket, thank you IQELITE!

>>60631165
Te chad reporting in.

>>60631237
it's so many days in a row now. that giant gap is almost already closed

>>60630943
>>60631273
Please just ignore him guys. He craves attention like a girl with daddy issues (he’s actually a bastard who never knew his father) and ignoring him makes him seethe. Please tell other anons to ignore him as well.

>>60629127
Buying a Silver Eagle with a face value of $1 for $40 is a $39.50 capital loss write off.

so i'm still working on finding an open order spot and i get this email today. i should send back a salute picture

>>60631474
i will go back to ignoring

Wow, stocks returned 78 times more than gold in the last 100 years. Thats why smart and rich people don't buy rocks, lmao they just sit there

>>60630965
>>60630969
Te dude! Good to see you. I reckon I should get a shot of my 2 kg of Te too.
Nice analogy.
Youtube: David Suzuki uses bacteria in a test tube to illustrate Exponential Growth. I prefer the use of percents, but yours works too.

Threadly reminder that gold is in most cases tax free in the US and has outperformed the S&P 500 since the .com crash, and will likely continue to do so for the next 20 years at least.

"Avoid physical assets"

Kektop......100% of pmg does the opposite of what experts suggest....it's almost like they get all their info from coin merchant ads on YouTuube and then cry about evil forces and manipulation when they lose.

>>60631846
I love how they say 'avoid physical' assets and then write a 5 paragraph essay on how the IRS will fuck you in the ass for avoiding physical assets.

>>60630032
For reverse image lookups of logos, I'll occasionally resort to tracing the logo as best I can, then uploading the result. Sometimes it works, but alas not this time.

>>60630969
Can use the grain of rice and the chessboard story also.

>>60631891
You must have read something else, or stopped near the beginning.

Anyway... I'm never making 500k in profit anyway (keep your receipts so you can prove how much you invested).
That last paragraph is disturbing - about PMs being a 'collectible' and taxed higher. They don't clarify whether the 500k profit limit still applies. If so I'm golden, so to speak.

>>60631891
Financial advice isn't geared towards losers with $3000 to their name and you cant even understandwhat was written. In fact pmg has so little capital they cant make life changing money thru investments. But yes there's a reason smart and rich people don't buy rocks.

>>60631936
Physical is taxed at 28% plus state taxes

ETFs at a maximum of 20% but you get a $47,000 exclusion per year taxed at 0% so unless you are Rockefeller you pay no capital gains tax

>>60630965
>>60630969
true. I would say we're about in between the tenth and eleventh day currently.

>>60631967
>ETFs at a maximum of 20% but you get a $47,000 exclusion per year taxed at 0% so unless you are Rockefeller you pay no capital gains tax
that's not how it works, retard
stop spreading wrong tax info itt

>>60631967
>Physical is taxed at 28% plus state taxes
The question is whether the 500k profit limit still applies to either ETFs or collectibles. They state the limit applies specifically to "investment profits".

>>60630965
Bro, only on fucking 4chan can we discuss the exponential function. I'm wondering too how long till the bucket is full of the water level is raising at an exponential rate every year. How much space is left in the economic arena globally to soak up the dollars and other excess fiat currencies to ignite the psychological event in which the people realise the inflation is never going to stop and they will begin to swap their fiat for real world stuff and stop saving in fiat, that is the event you're talking about, the hyperinflationary event.

>>60632003
>that's not how it works
I Am equally (if not more) unaware. How does it work?
Just curious - I don't actually trade ETFs.

>>60632034
the 47k number he keeps bringing up applies to both PMs and stocks; i.e. you don't owe long term cap gains tax on anything as long as your total income is below 47k. if your total income is over 47k, then you owe taxes on everything. you don't get to just get 47k of gains tax free every year.

>>60632027
I'm wondering what the end game with this financial disparity between the 1% and the rest of us is going to be. Carried out to a final absolute distillation of money from one group to the other, what will the 99% do for acquiring basics - groceries, clothing, shelter, etc.?
Barter? PMs (so few have any though)? Emigration (how do you pay for transport)? Revolution?
It's kind of a serious question. If the MSM is right, Trump is enabling both this transfer as well as authoritarian oligarchies across the globe.

>>60632055
Oh! I didn't know about the 47k taxless limit. When using the tax tables they start at $0-5, so I just assumed everyone paid. Anyway... I understand the error now - thanks.

looking grim. its gonna settle back at the normal price

>>60632129
thank god. i got more buys to do

>>60632166
This I just got in today and i plan to dca every month from now on
Waiting for a 50g bar of silver to arrive

>>60630038
I’d probably run to my local coin shop rather than walk.

>>60629358
IQPajeet is a retard, and he does lie about percentages, but based on my research he's more correct than you with regard to taxes. I even asked my H&R Block lady, she said gold and silver is taxed as collectibles. When I looked into it, the tax code makes specific reference to it, and the zero tax thing doesn't seem to apply. Jews don't want you buying the stuff.

That being said, with the moonshot on the horizon, I still expect it to be profitable. And if it starts being enforced as legal tender more widely, taxes on profit will become a non-issue. Just spend it like the money it is.

>>60632129
Look at the chart from March-August 2020.

If the economy gets worse and everything crashes then they’ll just print money, and if that happens that’s another easy 2-3x for gold/silver.

>>60631936
No, I read the whole thing in context of pic. They have links to the IRS filing guidelines at the bottom of the article. Generally only actual collectible gold and silver are taxed as collectible. GLD shares are taxed as collectibles. The current tax regime is you get fucked for buying GDX/SLV.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/081616/understanding-taxes-physical-goldsilver-investments.asp

>>60632399
*GLD/SLV. GDX is a good buy if you want paper exposure.

>>60632236
>IQPajeet is a retard, and he does lie about percentages, but based on my research he's more correct than you with regard to taxes. I even asked my H&R Block lady, she said gold and silver is taxed as collectibles. When I looked into it, the tax code makes specific reference to it, and the zero tax thing doesn't seem to apply. Jews don't want you buying the stuff.
it does
and gold and silver are not taxed at 28%
they are taxed UP TO 28%, based on your income level

>>60632399
>actual collectible gold and silver
Is there a difference between "collectible" and some other form of physical (like generic bars)?

>>60632444
>they are taxed UP TO 28%
That is the one niggling little detail I kept coming across that I couldn't find a good explanation for. The 28% number was referred to as a maximum, but I couldn't find anything saying it was based on income level. I'm pretty sure I actually found stuff saying the opposite, that collectibles profit doesn't care about your income. Could you provide a source? I would very much like you to be correct on this, as I'm sitting on a big pile of silver I was hoping to unload piecemeal in my old age.

finally found one. i hope these next 3-6 months go quickly

>>60632399
Totally false

>>60632055
>the 47k number he keeps bringing up applies to both PMs and stocks; i.e. you don't owe long term cap gains tax on anything as long as your total income is below 47k. if your total income is over 47k, then you owe taxes on everything. you don't get to just get 47k of gains tax free every year.


False, run it thru a tax program, for this is used 47000 capital gains and 14,600 interest

In this example i did

47000 ltcg 0% tax
44600 interest 30,000 of which was taxed

Everyone gets at least 47,000 ltcg exclusion but not on physical metal, lmao pmg gets fucked because they didn't listen to iqelite

>>60632510
just ask the google AI how much gold is taxed at X income level and it'll tell you

IQ is winning.
You'll all be rich with your metals, but your special hangout has been ruined.

>>60632618
Come on man, you can't be serious.

>>60632696
you think the AI is lying about taxes? lol. don't be a schizo

I started pmg it was always meant to be educational and a place to get rich a way for me to give back to the next generation. a bunch of weenies tried to hijack it into a cult,,,,,not on my watch,,,,,you will have the opportunity to latch onto my big brains and big gains

Since yall don't grok enough knowledge to ask the right prompt

The federal tax on a $50,000 long-term capital gain from gold bullion would be calculated based on the maximum long-term capital gains rate for collectibles, which is 28%.
Therefore, the tax due would be 28% of $50,000, which equals $14,000. This rate applies because gold is classified as a collectible by the IRS, and long-term capital gains on collectibles are taxed at a maximum rate of 28%.
If the gain were short-term (held for one year or less), it would be taxed at the individual's ordinary income tax rate, which could be higher.

Should have bought the etf like I've been saying for ten years

New info meme. Remember to save and share it.

>>60632723
>>60632775
>>60632811
I weep for /pmg/. We might just be too retarded for our own good.

>>60633043
he just isn't asking the right question, and retards like you fall for it

>>60630965
>>60630969
Just to expound on this further,
This relates to us because our money supply requires constant, EXPONENTIAL expansion in order to function. Our money supply is bought into existence when the fed buys Treasuries (we have to pay taxes for the right to use dollars). In order to prevent the economy from the deflationary pressures of paying down debts, spending is incessant and must grow exponentially. We are at a point where the interest on the debt is over $1TN. This interest payment will never EVER decrease. The amount of resources represented by $1TN is profound. To put it in perspective, the ENTIRE yearly market cap of silver PRODUCTION WORLDWIDE is only $24BN. So the interest on the debt costs us the ENTIRE MARKET CAP of silver every 9-10 days.
These numbers are almost meaningless at this point. But the dollars and debt are far more abstract than the real-world production.

>>60632953
Oi vey! You can't say that it's antisemetic! How dare you!

>Silver down 1%
>BTC down 2.5%
Uhhhh, does this mean we're still winning?

>>60633346
as always

>Sweden was the last of the Nordic countries to completely debase their coinage, only switching to Nickel in the late 60s
>They had simple and sleekly designed coins minted in Stockholm, where they had been made for the past millennium
>Fast Forward 50 years
>Sweden uses physical currency the least of any Nordic country
>The few coins that are still made are produced by a factory in Finland, with the historic mint in Stockholm having been shut down years ago and had its assets sold off
>Its banknotes are printed by an American company
How the mighty have fallen.

The LMBA is full of it

And 'it' definitely not silver or gold

The LMBA is full of it

And 'it' is definitely not silver or gold

>>60631240
Based

>>60628632 (OP)
Serious question, if the bankers and government don’t want people to stack why do they mint millions upon millions of bullion coins every single year to sell to the public?

>>60633712
It's a way to tax upper-middle class people who are going to diversify into physical PMs no matter what they government says. They don't care what stacktards do with their handful of 1/4oz niggercoins. The gold futures market exists to discourage high net worth individuals from simply hoarding gold.

>>60629039
only had 6 forks but, the olive pincher was also sterling.

>>60633809
Lmao, fact is upper middle class and richies are too smart to buy that garbage, terrible returns, punitive taxes, smart people don't buy rocks and stuff them under the mattress they make $ work, get interest, dividends and rent

I like gold. Simple as
Also the "paper market"...what is that?
You mean selling 1oz hundreds of times on paper/digitally? Yeah good plan that should work forever:P

>>60633862
Myself i prefer profits over retarded conspiracy theories. Thats why I'm up 400% in 18 months and pmg baggies aren't. Lmao drain the c0omex end the FED

>>60633837
Once again you unemployable poorfag is showing. Doctors, engineers, and lawyers are incredibly bad at investing. They routinely do shit that even the brownest, dumbest biztard knows not to do. Like, pay $400k for a couple of pink rocks out of a magic diamond mine in Australia? Sure. Fuck my shit up. Stuff my house' rafters full of silver in 1984? Absolutely.

>>60633901
Lmao you proved yourself to be a moron when you said this earlier today, now you are mad i proved you wrong, the fact you gamble on rocks shows your desperation . I haven't given up on you though i still want you to be rich!

>Generally only actual collectible gold and silver are taxed as collectible. GLD shares are taxed as collectibles.

You're right those stupid banks constantly buying more gold have no idea what they're doing:)

>>60633937
Nah I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I did enough work for upper-middle types to have 100% confidence most of them are retards with money.

If you have an alternate theory about who's buying all this government bullion I'd be happy to be proven wrong again.

>>60633836
Very nice:)

>>60633986
Lmao you said this too, you are nothing but a troll

>Threadly reminder that gold is in most cases tax free in the US and

>>60634045
Yeah that's what I thought boomer.

>>60630408

Eating rice for a month so I can own 2 sovereigns

>>60633836
Thumbnail: I thought that was Terminator's arm.

>>60634067
AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH

>dude
Its so over for crypto holy moly guacamole

>>60630408
>https://www.cyphertux.net/articles/en/research/ecdsa-nonces-lattice-attacks-bitcoin-exploit
I got a 404 link.

>>60634078
Based.

LoL
>crypto is designed to be confiscated by the state
They dont even have to send anyone to your door. In 1933, not many complied with rhe seizure; or else there wouldnt be any gold eagles floating around; this era is different: the asset forfeiture carried out by keystrokes......

>>60634067
>>60634082
How can they claim the money that exists purely in the digital realm? There are no physical jurisdictions.

Lmao, this is why pmg is seething, precious metals at the bottom of the list for returns

>>60634171
It is the return.

>put money into digital realm
>it gets deleted forever
>no refunds

Theres literally no good reason to buy rocks so pmg shills attack real investment classes

>>60634078
Hell yeah!
But seriously add beans, some chicken occasionally and a daily multi vitamin.

>>60634067
>>60634067
>>60634096
>>60634118

Selling my positions. Buying silver.

>oh sorry your virtual currency was dormant for x amount of time
>CONFISCATION

>>60634118
>crypto is designed to be confiscated by the state
It really is. This bill is just the beginning too I bet.

Are we really surprised?

Satoshi Nakamoto translates to central intelligence

>>60634171
>Last 36 years
What an odd number of years. I wonder what the returns are on the last five years.

i was just going to complain about no new bullion coins. it's out at here, but it probably makes sense to wait and see what apmex has it for

>>60634255
>Selling
Golden Eagle Coin (from my personal experience) and others accept bitcoin for PMs though a crypto to fiat payment service.

>>60634322
>here
https://www.kagins.com/2025-spanish-doubloon-brown-bear-oso-pardo-1-ounce-gold-999-9-fine-raw.html

>>60634322
>1.5€
why?

>>60634332
no kidding. i wish they just went with 100 like the others. i'm not sure if there is an actual reason. i'd almost think there has to be one.

>>60634255
Wait!
Why were all the posts detailing the exploits inherit in bitcoin law deleted? It's ok the lie about taxes ITT but it's banable to post US law now?

>>60634375
Mods are fags. What else is new.

Alright, which one of you sold 10 trillion troy ounce of paper silver to drop the price from 38$ to 37$

>>60634375
Quite revealing

>>60634332
Because the EU dictates that all coins denominated as 1 Euro or 2 Euros have to exactly match the size and composition of circulating 1 and 2 Euro coins, so Bullion coins get issued in weird denominations like 1.5 Euros in a lot of countries.
No idea why they didn't put a higher number on there.

>>60634375
This is what you asked for for years, lmao you just didn't think it would affect you

>>60634375
>Why were all the posts detailing the exploits inherit in bitcoin law deleted? It's ok the lie about taxes ITT but it's banable to post US law now?

Who watches the watchers?

>>60634375
Which posts exactly? I haven't refreshed my page yet so as far as I'm aware it's all still here.

>>60634459
>Which posts exactly?
Archive:
https://warosu.org/biz/thread/60628632#p60634255

>>60634491
Saved.

>>60634504
And this one too.

It's amazing how little pmg knows about anything

>Can Gold and Silver Be Escheated
The term "escheated" refers to property that reverts to the state when there are no identifiable heirs or claimants. In the context of gold and silver, it would mean that if someone owns gold or silver and dies without heirs, the state may claim the property

They are getting desperate

We proved there is a glut of silver

We proved physical metal is punitively taxed

We proved long term returns are horrible

We are over the target

>>60634545
But when it comes to crypto currency, it is all logged, so the idea of no heirs argument is bullshit when the state can just go and check.

>attempt to cash out crypto, account frozen for 91 days
>assets seized under crypto escheatment laws
>you will own nothing, and be happy

>>60634559
Proving again you know nothing and desperateto find a flaw, they don't check for heirs, and the owner or their heirs can get it back, its all on a state website go look up your dad's name

Lmao, they don't check

Jesus

we're really going to have the last laugh aren't we?

>>60634593
Proving again
1.) You never post a portfolio
2.) You don't own a car
3.) All you can afford is cheap, garbage quality food
4.) You don't own a house
5.) You're retarded enough to think that brass is gold
6.) You post the most here every day. Clearly not behavior of someone who's made it

>strawmanning about death and crypto while the laws are explicitly stating any crypto left unattended for 90 days, which leaves it vulnerable to freezes that can occur for longer than 90 days when attempting to cash out

>>60634621
Saved.
>MY ACCOUNT AHHHHHHH!

>"they are getting desperate"
>25 posts by this id

>>60634582
/pmg/ right once again

>>60634638

>>60634491
This all was planned from the beginning, wasn't it? How convenient the gubment shart out this law and at the same exact moment a bunch of dormant genesis addresses gets drained after 15 years of inactivity?

>>60634602
Looks like it yeah..
Kikes fattened the pig for over a decade, and now it seems they are getting ready to slaughter it.
Funny how cryptobros & whales paid Bloumpf's campaign in the tune of hundreds of millions USD to revert back all the regulations, and they are getting rewarded with backstabbing laws : larping as adoption, when it's all about confiscation.

I don't get how ppl can still trust any ""wealth"" in digital form, the entire thing have been set up to be tracked down & stolen from you by the government in just few clicks...

>>60634874
Yeah

>>60634602
i will laugh at them all, and i will have sex

>>60634888
Literally everything we said would happen have happened or is well in it's way. Putin said it all back during his 2019 speech about the control of critical resources, and how (((they))) would do anything to divert us from paying attention to what really matters.

In the past 5 years we've seen silver go as low as $12 and it's now $38, and gold go from $1,500 to $3,300. It wasn't just us being lucky, it was fucking inevitable. It's the eternal return of tangibility. WW3 already started, and it's all about controlling the future of technology : AI, datacenters, electric grid, computational power, energy transition.

All of those require rare metals. It's a worldwide race taking place, the nations with the most computational power/most advanced AIs will control the new world order.
/PMG/ VINDICATED

addendum : it really makes me want to get my hands onto others rare metals, like Te, Re, Rh,.. but holy fuck they are such a pain in the ass to find. Especially if you live outside the US. We need to figure out some options to acquire those, they will soon explode in value too (a bunch already did).

Just dropped two hours ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps7xsRbwlo4

>>60634962
>Te
It's sold on ebay in chunks from china.

Try not to fondle it though.
The atom imitates sulfur, and touching it is enough to absorb into your body. You'll have Tellurium sweat instead of Sulfur sweat for weeks. Which smells like garlic.

>>60635052
Yeah i've read on wiki it also impact your breath, which also smells like garlic.. might be the easiest rare metal to verify lol.
Did it happen to you?

>>60635090
Haven't had it happen yet, usually store it in a bag and touch it rarely
Has a crazy low price given that it's rarer than gold, and also one of the few semiconducting elements.

>>60635139
do you remember how much you paid for it?

>>60635140
About 120$ for 500g.
The true market price is around 90$ per kg, but hard to find it for that price unless you personally know some kinda distributor.

Literally sold $10k in silver and bought XRP at $0.56
Please do the math on what silver would need to be now to compete.
Please advise how I would move said silver to Costa Rica, Panama, Portugal or anywhere easier than with my keys and a pair of board shorts.
It’s over bros.
I had my portfolio split metals and XRP.
Now I’m 100%. Selling final metals soon. Don’t have time for this shit.

>>60635151
That sounds fine, i mean, way better than what i can see on ebay rn, and we can't expect to get it near spot..
Just checked spot and it dipped pretty significantly this month, i think i'll give it a chance for a kg or two.
If you still have the merchant in your histo i'd gladly take the name fren.

>>60634888
Checked, and veritable

>>60634602
Yes anon, we will be disgustingly wealthy and /pmg/ will be known as the rich mans club.

I would recommend swimming lessons to all /pmg/ anons for when you must perform the backstroke to pass through the sea of minge on your way to the shops post credit collapse/pm repricing.

>>60635168
Here ya go:
https://www.ebay.com/str/nextstar2008

>>60635190
I can go for that

>>60635192
i hate being an yuropoor so much it's unreal :'(

>>60631197
I updated the telegram post to include it (linked in the video description >>60631179).
here is the discussion thread: >>>/tg/96069525

>>60635215
woops forgot the pic

>>60635052
>You'll have Tellurium sweat instead of Sulfur sweat for weeks.
Wonder if it works as a mosquito repellent.

>>60635215
>>60635223
Aw, that sucks.
There are some other options, the 500g bar from snaucke-elements doesn't look too bad a deal, and they are netherland based.

If you want it real cheap you pretty much have to buy it from china in crystal nugget form.

>>60634602
>we're really going to have the last laugh aren't we?
I doubt more than half a dozen Anons are Salamanders
>>60629694
or higher, and I doubt that level will be provide life-changing riches.

Oh gods... my silver is going to arrive infected with AIDS.

>>60635431
>Oakland
You have bigger problems to worry about than mere AIDS.

>>60635414
I own 3 defunct historic silver mines in one of the world's richest silver districts. My house is built on one of those mines, and it has never been commercially mined for silver despite having tons of silver in proven resources. Literally tons of silver under my little house. Mapped, drilled, and proven.

Unfortunately my house is worth more than a ton of silver, and my neighbor's houses are all also worth more than a ton of silver. So the silver under my house and under theirs will probably never be mined. Because the block alone is worth more as houses than the tens or hundreds of millions of dollars worth of silver known to be below it.

>>60635217

>got a girl to put a Phil on her nipple
Pretty hot tbhfamalam

>>60635504
>Phil
Did you make the obligatory wiener joke?

Been watching this general for months and only just pulled the trigger on my first purchase now
Tell me how badly I got ripped off for FOMOing in

>In Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia, nearly all everyday transactions were conducted in Copper
>Copper has been used as money in nearly every monetary system that also used Gold and Silver
>There is only around one ounce of Silver per person alive today, therefore if Silver discovers its true value it may be difficult to use for small everyday transactions
You are stacking Copper too, right anon?

>>60635469
Dig a shaft down from your basement and you got your self a nice weekend hobby. Your neighbors don't have to know.

>>60635520
Of course

>>60635469
Congratulations?

>>60635543
>$38.08 for an ASE
>20 Rounds for $765, $38.25 per round
This isn't bad at all given that SIlver is currently at $37.87. When Silver gets suppressed down to sub $30, buy another 40 ounces (or more) to lower your DCA.

>>60635559
It's 650 feet below the water table, they're going to notice me pumping thousands of gallons of water per minute.
>>60635566
Just saying, if silver ever moons I've got tons of the stuff. Not worth mining yet though.

>>60635576
Hindsight is 20/20. I would have loved to get in under $35.
>When Silver gets suppressed down to sub $30
I'll back up the truck if that happens, but I have a hard time believing we'll ever see $30 again. Maybe that's just the FOMO speaking.

>>60635600
I bought basically my entire stack (a little under 500 ozt.) sub-$30 and I still wish I had bought more, so maybe this is just me wishcasting, but the amount of times SIlver has gone up only to get knocked back down does make me assume it'll happen again, or at least get into the low 30s for a while before going back up.
I also wish I had bought more bullion and less foreign junk silver since foreign coins are usually super hard to unload.

>>60635543
You did great bro, can't get much better than zero premium

>>60635543
You're doing great.
Know your exit strategy which is selling silver for gold once the ratio hits 1:50 or below
Although you could probably ride it lower since silver has been building up for 13 years now

>>60635617
>since foreign coins are usually super hard to unload.
uh? did you actually try or are you making stuff up on the fly?
Never got any issue personally..

>>60635754
I talked to my LCS out of curiousity once and he said he'd give me 50-75% of spot for them.

>>60635815
kek

a scrap dealer will give you 97% of spot.
get a new LCS

10 years of pmg and no one has made it.....why didn't they listen?

>>60635872
50 years of licking dog shit off shoes in the park and IQ still doesn't own a car. Why won't he buy gold?

>>60635975
Stop feeding it you's, you just paid it to be here.

I agree with you though.

>>60629683
>>60630817

Pic related.

>>60630969

>This is the nature of exponents folks.

Gradually, and then Suddenly.

>>60628632 (OP)
can anyone think of a practical use for gold coins with a known amount of radioactive material included at the time of minting? The decay would act as a timer for years since production. I just kind of think it would be cool to have a radioactive gold coin, but I'm sure one of you very smart people could come up with a practical use for timed gold.

>>60633391
You got any suggestions where I can read more about when the debasement went down in Sweden? I'm willing to read Swedish as well

how much of this is getting yeeted into gold lol

Platinum bros we are making it

>>60636199
I suppose that at some time in the distant future, it could help distinguish authentic ancient coins from modern forgeries.

>>60635552
I took the time to buy 35 pound bags of copper pennies on ebay just to get to 100 pounds. I sorted rolls for a long time too.
If these prices here are indicative of where things are headed if credit shits the bed, it could be a great buffer between having to spend any silver.
It's heavy as fuck though. Not recommended unless you are permanently settled in to your home.

>>60635600
yeah it seems like asia is calling the central bank bluff, or the rothschilds are letting them stack as the elites abandon the west so their new home is a nice neighborhood for them

>>60636512
>sort 100lbs
>takes 2 years
>get 100 copper pennies

lol get a job boomer

>>60636528
Some of the rolls were 40% copper. A lot of them even had 52-53 pennies per roll, meaning I was making 4-6% return. You also find dimes, wheaties, and even indian head pennies.
$1.52 in copper pennies is a pound of copper. So you spend $1.52 to get $4 of materal. It's also a fun little hobby.

>>60636528
So true, i make my money work for me so I can have a life of leisure

Got a nice 55% ytd gain on my newmont gold 2% dividend

I should buy another monster box

Gold stocks up
pmg favorite platinum metal group stock SBSW up
Bitcoin up
Bought 15 ETH in the last few days it's mooning

Life is good grilling a 1 pound T bone and fondling my Peruvian gold

>>60636947
true true

>>60636393
Do you still have the link to the article?

>>60636975
>gold
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces324410.html
It's not.

>>60637027
https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/blackrock-hit-by-52bn-withdrawal-from-single-client-kmsmg87jc I have mostly forsaken mainstream media and in fact was shadowbanned for saying "goddamn" when explaining the massacre prepetrated when the central banks overthrew the rightful russian government in the youtube comments section today, such is life in the void

>>60637041
>Composition Brass
Kek

>>60637078
It's way more than $52 billion as that was only a partial withdrawal as so far the total is $152 billion. Whoever it is, the owner is whale among billionaires, which is going to be a very small list as Elon Musk, regarded as the richest man in the world, owns something like $44 billion. It's got to be an oil baron.

>>60637213
These uberwhales prevent a credit-based system because having such ungodly amounts of money actually becomes difficult to buy things. The entire globe and all of the capital in it are basically already owned by them. Where do you hide that much cash? I bet billionaires would get destroyed by the system if they tried to go and buy up a bunch of gold all at once.

WTF WAS THAT

>>60637296
>billionaires would get destroyed by the system if they tried to go and buy up a bunch of gold all at once
They should :)

>>60637469
That's called a tamp

>>60634319
*even

>>60637296
uh yeah, that's the whole point of why we stack
there's an obscene surplus of "claims on goods" compared to how many "goods" there are in the world.

>>60637213
It's a sovereign wealth fund dumping gold and buying ethereum obviously

>After attending the FUN show, I am now back; I have Blank Planchets
FRENSMARK IS COMING! I WILL PRODUCE THESE ROUNDS BEFORE THE WINDS OF WINTER COMES OUT, I SWEAR IT!

>p.s. Biblically accurate angels are available again

>>60637604
Stacking is dumb though. smart and rich people have accountants and advisors who steer them to real investments where they don't get raped by punitive taxes. The idea that brokies found a good investment is laughable

>>60637628
Im not caught up on the mintanon lore. Does someone mind filling me in?
How long has it been since Apurand was able to pre-order?

>>60637638
>Florida has no taxes on Precious Metals
>House Bill 7031
>House Bil 999

>>60637735
>Apurand
I too am waiting on a apurand silver. Though it looks like it is not for preorder anymore.

>>60637735
>>60637772
he posted an update in the previous /pmg/ i think

>>60637779
no wait, it was here:
>>60622055

>>60637783
gotcha

>>60623548
holy cow, someone sure it butt blasted by my existence. calling the angels ugly is just pure retardation

>>60637783
very dope! I am glad he is doing well; I saw he is also doing the cheesed to meet you; although I would let him know to wait on that because I am already in production of custom rounds for that via blanks. I will post updates here as I have them. I have been busy running the coin convention scene.

>>60637746
Based

Florida man btfo iqdelet

>>60637991
>>60637783
If anybody ever hears how many Apurands were minted, I'll update.

another one of these. looks pretty good. hopefully i won't need to buy another

>>60637746
The US government taxes precious metals between 28-37%. Florida doesn't tax crypto, stocks or interest

>>60637746
North Carolina needs to hurry up and follow suit. Sadly, we're usually the last to the party with stuff like this.

fucking dumb idiot moron lol

>The US government taxes precious metals between 28-37%
They don't

>>60638064
>Bible angels are 200 minted
>Blank Planchets are generic; infinite mint
>Licensed products coming soon-250th Army Anniversary Bullion dropping veterans day
I have been busy this past fiscal quarter

>>60638174
>250th Army Anniversary Bullion dropping veterans day
Did you land something licensed by the military? Excited to see what you have coming

>>60636512
I just sort my stinkies from pennies at work

The walls were forged from endless rows of gold and silver bars, each seam bouncing back the harsh glow of unseen lanterns. The air tasted of dusted hallmarks and something fouler beneath—iron, copper, a wet tang that made their throat constrict. Every corridor looked the same: a mirror image of gleaming wealth that swallowed sound and hope in equal measure.

They wandered for hours, footsteps clinking like warning bells, the passage behind them shifting so that turning back only led deeper in. Occasionally, their reflection flickered between bars, warped and gaunt, as though the metal itself had eyes. Panic crept in alongside exhaustion, and each breath felt heavier, as if the very air was seeping into the walls.

At last the bars closed in, inching together with a slow, deliberate insistence. They tried to scream, but the gold pressed against their lips until their voice was nothing more than a dull vibration. Warm metal crept over their skin, bones bending, joints fusing into cold hardness. When the labyrinth’s glow flickered back to life, there stood a new, flawless bar—polished to perfection, its edges sharp enough to draw blood, its surface unbroken by any mark of life.

>>60638174
APMEX sent me a free goldback and my insatiable demand to collect things has taken over. The premiums on them is really, really bad though lol

>>60637620
Silver up .5%
Gold up .5%
Bitcoin up 2%
Ethereum up 10% ????

Wtf looks like IQELITE was right again

>>60638779
>The premiums on them is really, really bad though lol
Buying mine a while ago, and with the price of gold now, I don't feel that bad. But I get it.

>>60638842
>eThErEuM
God damn you're a retard.

>>60637991
This isn't your discord, go back

Why do government boot lickers and covid vaccinated people like digital 1s and 0s over tangible goods?

Stupid enough to take the covid vaxx, they are stupid enough to trust government and banker run cryptos....and they also eat poverty level steaks with no fat marbled into the depressed and abused cow they brag about.

FYI, great spot deals almost everywhere!

I should've put more money in Adyton. Up 83% in a month. Its my smallest position fugg

>>60637628
>I SWEAR IT!
holding you to it

>>60638927
They are not actually critical thinkers are take solace in the government running things and genuinely believe the government is acting in their best interests.
I actually think the issues plaguing the modern monetary system are pretty easy to comprehend. But you have to actually give them some credence first. To think the system is insolvent will necessarily compel you to deal with all sorts of uncomfortable truths that you may not even be prepared to deal with. If you were a boomer sitting on a million dollar portfolio earning a $50,000 salary in retirement, dependent on Medicare with SS checks covering your bills, you would be in a very awkward position to try and cash in your "Credit" investments and then sit around and hope and pray for a speculative trade to go your way.
If you don't figure it out in your college years, most people never have any sort of pushback against the narrative intended for the tax cattle. Most people don't even realize what they are and have no concept that they need to protect themselves from the system at all.
A simple thought experiment is to consider the Japanese government's own self interest in killing off the centenarians. They have more 100+ year olds than anywhere else. The precarious nature of the financial system NEEDS for you to fuck off a die shortly after your working life is over. That's the system we live in. It's why our water is poisoned with flouride, food is replaced with sneed oils, you are taught to eat 6-11 servings of carbs every day and every ailment is cured with a pharmaceutical instead of the obvious medicine which is fasting.
I say it all the time: You have to survive American capitalism because it wants to put you on the meat grinder. It asks you to pay in more than it gives and gives you all the wrong incentives. It doesn't care if you reproduce either. You are an "idea" that can be replaced.

>>60635217
Thanks!

>>60639014
If you believed that nonsense you would get rich like i did and never work again i tried to help you with those two picks that did a 5x in 18 months. Not all my picks did that great but i just looked and I've made passive income this year of 9 times my expenses. Learn to walk the talk

NEW THREAD

>>60639135
>>60639135
>>60639135
>>60639135
>>60639135

>>60639123
You're not rich though

>"never work again like me"
>32 posts by this id

Feeling so flush i might buy Mintys entire run of frog rounds just to flex,,,,,I've got a huge cash pile to invest thinking about Harmony gold forward p/e of 5 already bought sasol

>>60628713
Received mine as well.
Pretty as usual.

>>60639170
you couldn't afford to upgrade your fries at the drive through. Wait, you aren't going to the drive through because you have no vehicle.

Kektop