what kind of people do you socialize with? how important is networkmaxxing to making it? some retards here claim it's nothing
I am tired of hanging around the bottom scraps of society, people who are terminally locked into wagism 4 life, drug addicts, wagies, neets, social rejects, drop outs
I can't be around these people anymore, I have to escape, I have to GET. OUT.
I cannot discuss useless normies shit anymore with no focus on how to make more money, escape this shit
I need business minded people and moneymaxxers
I am isolated and secluded surrounded by retards
not only that but these people will actively drag you down into shit to, mentally and spiritually
have you escaped them?

>>60632267 (OP)

>>60632267 (OP)
Discussing doesn't matter, doing it is important. And business minded people are mostly feral. Not as feral as people who got rich with some scam, but still. It doesn't get better, but you can use the other people as a tool.

>>60632267 (OP)
My job requires me to interact with successful or aspiring to be successful people a lot, and they're unironically the most uninteresting, bland, people you could imagine. Literally like the board meeting in American Psycho.

Networking is hugely important if you're actively involved in some sort of business, but if you're trying to make it by yourself by investing in stocks, crypto etc... it's completely inconsequential and honestly not worth it.

I personally find much more enjoyment talking to literal deadbeat hippies at raves etc even if I have nothing in common with them and am doing quite alright for myself.

>>60632296
>Literally like the board meeting in American Psycho
That would be tolerable, but the reality in Yurop is a bit worse.

>>60632289
You forgot cocovorism.

>>60632267 (OP)
Niggas will do allat just to realize in the end it didnt even matter kek

>>60632301
I am in Europe myself and it's so exhausting. The reason I invest is so I can stop having to hang out with "successful" people and can just fuck off to someplace idyllic and enjoy a life of quiet kino degeneracy.

>>60632267 (OP)
"Socializing" is for midwits at best.
You need zero (0) people to make money trading.
You also need to be better than a midwit to make money trading.

Connect the dots.

>>60632267 (OP)
Your network does indeed matter imo. My wife and I are very successful, but wouldn’t have been nearly as successful without our friends.
If you are trying to improve your friend group, you should probably move to a city. You have to put yourself in a place where lots of the people you want to attract will be hanging out.

>network = networth
you should read; who not how (dan sullivan)

I think for the majority of people, networking is simply a natural and automatic system that works for their craft / mission

For us (mostly autists), it's an active and forced endeavor

>>60632267 (OP)
I sense your desperation, and I can empathize with it.

>work remotely with techies who are 96% supercharged normies with no sense of humor, or disgusting bootlickers. And yes it's literally 4 per 100 employees who have a soul.
>family is a bunch of hoarding retards who are clever but refuse to self improve
>dropped all my 2 friends cus they were negative and energy drainer who did nothing but consoom and think everything is black and white

The best luck I've had at making stellar connections has been in Math/Physics at Universities. Business people can be interesting too, once you get past the marketing crowd and to the business developers/restructure-ers

obviously no connection is better than bad connection. I knew this one guy who recently described his bpd on fb and to me it sounded like being poor around rich assholes or even middle class assholes. When I'm doing even half okay I can tolerate assholes but when I'm down they just shit on me so fuck them

>>60632938
I could be wrong but it's possible a huge chunk of "normies" are autists I mean they don't understand basic things like sarcasm, are total NPCs, and fail hard at being people people. Most of the time when people are talking instead of working, they aren't saying things cool people would say. They are saying really stupid things you would never imagine yourself saying and not just bc it sounds really fake

>>60632267 (OP)
>your SOCIAL LIFE should revolve around making MONEY!
arab mentality

>>60633526
>described his bpd on fb and to me it sounded like being poor around rich assholes or even middle class assholes
Can you elaborate on this? Like he was saying having BPD is unbearbable, to the same level as those insufferable poor people hating on rich people?

>>60633657
Wait a sec, Arabs I see in public are gaudy people who enjoy flaunting cash with LV purses, and Gucci shirts, Mercedes, and other meaningless retard-only-respecting items.

I don't think they discuss MAKING money. They're more about PURCHASES.

Please help me see your light

at least post the original

>>60633741
idk being poor around rich people sucks. You try to downplay it. They could help but if you even bother asking they may treat you like you're crazy bc they are so out of touch or flat out greedy. But all assholes drag you down, ruin shit, and then attack you n shit for the exact shit they ruined and of course won't admit it. The whole world is as good as positive people can make it and as bad as negative people can make it. It's an actual competition almost between good and evil bc one side is literally shitting up everything

Most of my friends are younger. We're all zogbots. One is a good dude but I pushed him away by being flakey and always drunk. Others pushed me away because they got in relationships. Another I kind of just don't like as a person, he still drinks, which is whatever but he gets violent and crazy when he drinks. One month sober from alcohol and a week totally sober from kratom after tapering off of it, with a bunch of days of horrible withdrawal. Right now, just trying to stay in my own lane and work on myself. Have one friend I go to lunch with because I'm trying to help the kid get his life in order before he gets out. That's about it honestly. Sorry for the blog post. Also I'm the only one of us that I know has investments.

>>60632307
I like being ripped idk about you

>>60633029
>The best luck I've had at making stellar connections has been in Math/Physics at Universities.

What do they like to talk about?

>>60632267 (OP)
now that you are looking to find business minded people to associate with you will find them because now your awareness has shifted you will recognize them when they cross your path and opportunities will present themselves. to meet people like that you need a fire under your ass.

>>60634344
particle physics, history, city politics, paradoxes

haven't seen them in a while, and just met up with them. Theyre are very reddity now that I've been away from academia for a while.

They called me misogynistic and couldn't sense my sarcasm

you know... it doesn't get better than 4chan...

>>60632308

>>60632308
>>60635189
I bet you have to be 115IQ or more to understand this conversation

Cheers to you quiet coomer bros

Ive lost all my friends of 20 years recently, and dont see the point of even trying to make new friends at the age of 36. I deserve to be alone.

>>60632267 (OP)
I socialize with nobody I am loner. All I got is my 60+ year old co workers to talk to.

>>60632267 (OP)
Cart before the horse. Do shit that matters, you will find people that also do shit that matters as you will need to reach out to them to do your shit better and they will reach out to you to do their shit better. If you just look for people who FUCKING TALK about doing shit you will be here on /biz/. Which you are.

>>60632267 (OP)
I grew up in a really shitty environment and now most my friends are doctors (I am a doctor) or other professionals.

It hasn't ever helped directly financially but it definitely encourages you to keep getting better and makes real success seem much more achievable when you're surround by it constantly. Compared to HS where the bar was on the fucking floor and so much of the advice and stuff you hear is retard tier

with people that work at McKinsey am i doing right?

>>60632267 (OP)
>I am tired of hanging around the bottom scraps of society, people who are terminally locked into wagism 4 life, drug addicts, wagies, neets, social rejects, drop outs
>I can't be around these people anymore, I have to escape, I have to GET. OUT.
Where, exactly, do you think you are?

>>60632308
>DITTO
https://web.archive.org/web/20170316013722/https://delicioustacos.com/2015/02/23/philippines-vacation/

>>60633029
> And yes it's literally 4 per 100 employees who have a soul.
it really do be that bleak. pre-covid i would've guessed around 40%
>nuh uh
fewer than 5% are aspirationally human. which is just hard to digest.
>>60633029
high IQ combined with slavic pragmatism

>>60634778
>you know... it doesn't get better than 4chan...
>it is known

>>60632267 (OP)
I have to agree with >>60632296. Any interaction with them feels so transactional there's really no point. I'm not close enough to them to ask for a favor, they're not close enough to me to ask me for a favor. It feels like when a politician goes door to door asking for your vote. I've found my current network to be much more lucrative even though it's filled with less successful people because there's genuine investment from both sides since we both actually care about each other and aren't just being performative for networking's sake.

>>60635319
Sorry to hear that Anon. Just know that what happened to you isn't unique and you are not alone in your suffering. I hope it gets better for you.

>>60632267 (OP)
I had no friends since the last day of high school. Even then, the only common thing with my friends was the fact we studied together. That was the only occasion we visited each other - to study for an exam.
Since then I only socialized with my siblings and my older brother's friends (like once a year when he dragged me somewhere). This got even worse since the coof. Right now the closest thing I got to friends are my coworkers that I see only twice a week.
Most of the fault for this situation is on me. I never even attempt to keep friends. Most of the time a potential friend is just a dumbass who I have nothing in common with. I prefer to spend time alone than to be in the company of annoying idiots. If I could have interesting friends then that would be nice I guess.

>>60632296
This, if all you talk about all the time is work then you're a wagie, simple as, doesn't matter if you make 300k. Shut the fuck up nobody cares.
Also successful people always try to drag you to expensive restaurants and bars, fuck you just because I have 7 digits in crypto doesn't mean I'm going to waste $100 on a restaurant visit or $15 on a cocktail. I'd match rather get some pizza and a glass of the house wine with my low income friends.

>>60632938
The majority of people is stupid as fuck. Schopenhauer correctly asserted that extrovert and social people are like that because their minds are empty and they NEED people around to distract themselves from their own NPC souls.

Nothing a NPC fears more than boredom. They fear boredom more than pain. Actually they barely feel pain in the whole sense of the word (the "pain" of the poets). Autistics, on the other side, are full of it.

>>60635319
If you're unironically high IQ friends can be optional.
But for low IQ people friendship is a living or dying matter.

>>60637177
How do you arrive at this conclusion? What's your reasoning?

It aligns with a high fraction of the people I know irl, but there are other aspects to it.

People with friends, and who worship suburbia and their jobs (aka normies) can have high and low IQs.

Surely low IQ people can be quiet, shy, loners too. Right?

what do you want to talk about, my good sir?

>>60632267 (OP)
>Socialize
I dropped that shit a long time ago, its an endless money pit either way, go lonewolf and do everything yourself and plan like a total schizo waiting for the world to end, it works. Especially if you are "poor" (homeless doesn't count because its rock bottom)