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Anonymous ID: xvrj3SZS
7/16/2025, 6:32:13 PM No.60637968
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What is the highest probability way to get rich in 10 years?
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Anonymous ID: yka89RYQ
7/16/2025, 6:33:24 PM No.60637980
Put 200k into btc today
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Anonymous ID: xvrj3SZS
7/16/2025, 6:35:13 PM No.60637996
>>60637980
Does it really make sense to do this at the peak of bitcoin dominance?
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Anonymous ID: nr7I/sNS
7/16/2025, 6:36:13 PM No.60638008
>>60637968 (OP)
>Drug dealer
Anonymous ID: t4aH4UU8
7/16/2025, 6:37:21 PM No.60638019
>>60637996
No
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Anonymous ID: xvrj3SZS
7/16/2025, 6:40:38 PM No.60638052
>>60638019
any suggestions what else to do? leaning on eth and eth meme coins like pepe, apu, cashing out, then all in btc next year
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Anonymous ID: 4quDFVlb
7/16/2025, 6:41:12 PM No.60638060
>>60637980
Best bet would be to wait 18 months and then buy. Still not going to make you rich though. You guys really need to realize it's not 2010-2015 anymore.
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Anonymous ID: xvrj3SZS
7/16/2025, 6:43:45 PM No.60638079
>>60638060
Yeah, just been hoarding cash for the time being. Seems there's some money to be made remainder of the year in alts, though. I'm just looking at ethbtc and seems bullish and then there's the rate cut possibility in a couple months
Anonymous ID: batTyjCO
7/16/2025, 6:50:42 PM No.60638119
>>60638052
It all depends on from where you start. From more or less zero? Without cashflow you don't have anything to invest.I hope you have a good education and are able to get job with a decent salary. If it's higher than the median in your country you should already be well set from that side. Don't live over your expenses and invest diversified (MSCI world, Main street capital, FTSE All‑World)
Over ten years, this could easily get you over a million.
Don't keep everything in cash - the inflation will eat your savings faster than you can become rich.
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Anonymous ID: oWQHWDxF
7/16/2025, 6:50:44 PM No.60638121
>>60637980
>when it was 15k yeah
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Anonymous ID: xvrj3SZS
7/16/2025, 6:58:01 PM No.60638175
>>60638119
I have around 75k cash and another 75k in VTI/401k. I have about 3k leftover every month for cashflow. No real idea what to do for the time being, except wait for btc to be at a nice discount like >>60638121
. Doubt I'll be rich in 10 years with this method, though. That's why I made the thread. Not sure what has better odds. Rich to me would be at least hitting $1.2M in today's money.
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Anonymous ID: jft2UHsh
7/16/2025, 7:04:25 PM No.60638214
Med school
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Anonymous ID: rxzU9uI/
7/16/2025, 7:17:00 PM No.60638291
>>60637968 (OP)
The highest probabillity is 1.
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Anonymous ID: batTyjCO
7/16/2025, 7:20:26 PM No.60638317
>>60638175
From the number you gave, you would need around 17% of annual return in order to achieve your target. This should be achievable without high risk investments. Waiting for the next major BTC dip and investing into some growth ETFs should do the job.
Anonymous ID: /VDqsZu8
7/16/2025, 7:21:21 PM No.60638329
>>60637968 (OP)
350+ ounces of silver.
Anonymous ID: batTyjCO
7/16/2025, 7:38:39 PM No.60638428
>>60638175
Just for fun I put your questions with the numbers you gave into ChatGPT. Here is what I got:

Put the entire$75k and the planned$3k monthly contributions into a low‑cost vehicle that keeps constant 2× leverage on a broad equity index (e.g., the S&P500 via futures, margin, or a 2× ETF such as Guggenheim’s S&P5002× Strategy).

The un‑levered index has averaged ~10% a year over the last 30years; the same index held at 2× leverage has compounded ~19% annually for the past decade
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Sustaining ~19% for 10years turns $75k up‑front plus $3k every month into ≈$1.4M, clearing your $1.2M goal with the highest historical probability among diversified assets.
Maintain a modest cash buffer to avoid forced deleveraging during sharp drawdowns, but otherwise stay fully invested and let the leverage work.
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Anonymous ID: rp+gn+cO
7/16/2025, 7:39:33 PM No.60638432
>>60637968 (OP)
buying xrp
Anonymous ID: xvrj3SZS
7/16/2025, 8:13:27 PM No.60638594
>>60638428
Thanks, yeah, debating this or BTC. I also plugged the Q into Deepseek and it said 100% VTI/VTOO, increase to 4-5k contributions per month and accept 900k-1M. It says BTC is not a good ROI, but I think if buying in a bear market it should be the best option. I don't think it factors in the money supply increasing and everyone being online more.
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Anonymous ID: A2paiRv6
7/16/2025, 10:34:52 PM No.60639452
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>>60637980
It's kind of the safest option, and it's more comfortable than starting small with shitcoins or things like npc and eventually scaling up to that
I think I should have started with btc and then tried other things
Anonymous ID: qX/YeF2J
7/16/2025, 10:38:34 PM No.60639477
>>60638594
After some trying out, I found out that an AI only recommends to invest in BTC if you start with a significantly lower amount and explicitly allow high-risk assets. Otherwise it only recommends some bullshit like cutting your living expenses, or getting a higher-paying job.
Anonymous ID: 7Lf1WngD
7/16/2025, 10:39:17 PM No.60639485
>>60637968 (OP)
Insider trading
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7/16/2025, 10:59:25 PM No.60639600
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>>60637968 (OP)
Real talk:
Buying cheap biotech stocks whenever Trump tantrums make things dip Example: I bought $5,000 in NNNN (anbio) @ $5 a share when Trump caused his China tarrif dip. When Trump/China came to an agreement NNNN jumped to 45$ a share (9x increase).

POINT IS: Trump antics are an excellent opportunity, don't waste it.
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Anonymous ID: 2teyVcQt
7/16/2025, 11:33:49 PM No.60639802
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>>60637968 (OP)
Silver.
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Anonymous ID: vExF93SI
7/16/2025, 11:37:38 PM No.60639819
>>60639802
I need more of these
Anonymous ID: KogQfrSJ
7/16/2025, 11:37:59 PM No.60639822
Buy Bonk yesterday hehe
Anonymous ID: fPsT//3Z
7/16/2025, 11:41:01 PM No.60639839
>>60637996
If hes an active trader sure still another 25%-50% to go before this cycles top then you sell and wait for the bear
Anonymous ID: yWtwxPiZ
7/16/2025, 11:48:02 PM No.60639876
Decent job with OKAY ($50k+ annual salary minimum) and minimalist spending
Anonymous ID: mX/2mTq2
7/16/2025, 11:49:42 PM No.60639883
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>>60639802
WHY ARE HER EYEBROWS BROWN HMMMMMMMMMMM?
Anonymous ID: yN2C78f2
7/17/2025, 1:09:29 AM No.60640279
My plan
>kill myself (not literally) working 80-90 hours a week at 3 different jobs, one wfh and another hybridized to make 120k a year since I'm not in one of the fakework six figure professions
>do this for 2-3 years
>dump it all into stuff like CRCL at the low point during the 2026-2027 bear market when it hits 30 bucks or lower
>stablecoin mcap projected to hit 1.2 trillion by 2031, quite literally "the next bitcoin" due to competition with financial companies like visa and jcb
>crcl will go from 30 to 300 again, then from 300 to 1800
>300k becomes 3 million, then 18 million
>then I will finally consider actual suicide because my life has been wasted trying to make it
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Anonymous ID: p3RaZNCw
7/17/2025, 1:12:31 AM No.60640308
>>60637968 (OP)
marry into money, it's that easy. whether you like her is a different story. find ugly girls in high COL cities/suburbs while doing upper class activities and spit mad game. alternatively find post-wall MILFs at mid tier resort bars and become a houseboy for a divorcee/spinster. If she buys you stuff you'll know you're on the right track.
Anonymous ID: zNITW/I8
7/17/2025, 1:16:01 AM No.60640327
>>60638214
don't do this. you don't wanna clean up pajeet's bottoms for 30 years.
Anonymous ID: qvZFWigg
7/17/2025, 1:19:47 AM No.60640343
>>60640279
Are you the same anon that almost made half a million dollars, then lost everything when it crashed, then put your last $700 or whatever in CRCL and got it back to like $50k or something? That was nuts man
Anonymous ID: IGX67Lj6
7/17/2025, 2:11:22 AM No.60640629
>>60637968 (OP)

Gold is a great inflation hedge, I would take 20% of what you have and convert it so you don't have to worry about other people's bad decisions eating up your money. Also, if you live somewhere like Canada or Australia that has a nationalized mint, you should buy gold coins from there, not bars. If you want to move your gold out of the country, a coin minted by an entity like, say, the RCM counts as currency. If you wanted to move an ounce of gold to say, Europe, would you rather pay a 25% departure tax on $5k worth of gold, or 25% of the face value of the gold coin itself (usually $50)?

Also, I'd advise you to invest in P2P debt. If I were you, I'd start by loaning out 80% of what you have and getting interest. Just like credit card companies, compounding interest can work in your favour. While index funds have 1-4% growth on average, lending can net you a 12-18% return if you have a decent lending platform. Having debt (as a creditor) in your portfolio counts as regular earned income, so you won't have to pay a capital gains tax on your earnings, and it primarily exists to supplement the regular income you'd get from working, except you'd get it in periodic principal + interest payments.

While you're at it, you could purchase some NFT's to reduce your nominal tax rate to 0% if you aren't already carrying forward capital losses. NFT's exist to exploit the same loophole that billionaires do concerning intangible assets and taxes. If Bill Gates donates a Picasso for $1 mil to one of his charities, he gets a tax receipt for that same amount. Similarly, When I buy a $30 NFT, "appreciate" it by $30, and donate it to the Salvation Army, I get a tax receipt for $60. That is literally the only reason why NFT's exist at all. That is their primary, overarching purpose. They are not investments. They're tax sheltering vehicles. When you use them as they were designed to be used, you get to benefit wildly from it.
Anonymous ID: CprxsiVW
7/17/2025, 5:31:13 AM No.60641328
>>60637980
Put 10% of that into UTK and you are good to go, wait for a 100X
Anonymous ID: INpeDEro
7/17/2025, 5:39:21 AM No.60641353
>>60637980
This. Assuming a reasonable annual growth rate of 30%, $200k worth of BTC today will be worth over $2.7 million in 10 years. I have $600k worth of BTC now that I won't have to touch for at least 15 years.
Anonymous ID: ZWCBcK+J
7/17/2025, 5:43:15 AM No.60641365
>>60639600
but how did you know that stock would 9x?
Anonymous ID: 3ZCY30nl
7/17/2025, 5:54:39 AM No.60641405
>>60638291
this