vapes and zyns became mainstream despite both being dangerous. do we just phillipmorrismaxx? It feels like if anything could still be invented by retards, it would be some form of consuming nicotine. then it's just finding chinese factories and branding it well. go the monster can route. people love that. just have a skull and bones at the bottom, and you're good. I was a dumb retard who vaped. I bought the liquid in bulk without nicotine then poured my own nic in. this came out extremely cheap, we are talking $1 a day. then disposable vapes came around with a 7x markup if not more. there's quick money in this if you come up with an idea is my point. I had knowledge of vape liquid and parts but didn't use it upcharge people because I was retarded. what's the next nicotine thing /biz/?

>>60640706 (OP)
How are zyns dangerous

>>60640754
In religious text, something like zyns are not forbidden (not haram and is kosher) in islam or judaism because nicotine isnt a carcinogenic within itself. That being said doctors also consider zyns to not being harmful past developing a lip sore due due to having a paper bag rubbing against your lip

Its completely safe on a chemical basis but youll get addicted and itll cost 150 bucks a month if you take it everyday.

>>60640811
>>60640706 (OP)
We shouldn't drink coffee either because one of Brigham Young's wives didn't like people coming over and asking for coffee

>>60640706 (OP)
>movie: World of Wolfram

>>60640811
I considered myself a heavy user for going through 2 cans of 6mg per week. That's $11 in my state

>>60640911
I do two cans a day unironically. But I am a recovering crack addict and consider myself cursed to obscene addiction if Im not careful, my zyn habit being an example

>>60640811
I use 3-5 pouches a day, so about one tin every 4 days. So about 40 bucks a month for me

>>60640918
>>60640911
they have stronger foreign nicotine salt cans if you look. I would recommend upping the dose to 8mg or 12mg if you're on 6mg.

I cant take anything other than 3mg or else I'll become extremely nauseous for some reason even though I smoked a pack a day in the army.

>>60640965
>>60640911
this I use 15mg pouches and I have a few tins of 18mg

>>60640754
nicotine itself is bad for you, you're required to halt nicotine intake before surgery for good reason

being an addict is apparently cool though

>>60640706 (OP)
crack cocaine it is gonna be uuuuuuuuujuh

>>60640706 (OP)
globohomo knows there is demand for nicotine. they prefer you use their bullshit version and not get the benefits from proper tobacco.

>>60641710
Tobacco does cause cancer in all forms

>>60641221
Nicotine itself is not harmful, scientific studies have concluded this. The reason why doctors tell you to stop consuming it is due to it restricting your cardiovascular system due to contraction

>>60640706 (OP)
Bump.

just use lozenges

I love the Zyn smooths but I hate the fact that nothing is as good as a cig or vape straight to the dome. Nothing worse then when I'm chilling with a Zyn but still feel the need for the pacifier. Is there something else in vapes that make them more addictive?

>>60640754
my only concern with Zyn is whatever is in there other than nicotine, I saw this jew on youtube do a spectrum analysis in a lab on it and it came up with some concerning things. The safest product I have found is Nic Nac and it's a mint instead of a pouch.

>>60640706 (OP)
>vapes
>marketing
Juul perfected this. Slick, slim, minimalist, sexy. They actually made vaping look cool instead of like a fag. Too bad it got cucked by the regulation industry. Whatever company can make vaping as sexy as smoking will win. Box vapes with those massive clouds reminds me too much of those people that were DC shoes and Monster energy tshirts in the late 2000s/early 2010s. You look like a dweeb.

>>60640754
>>60640811
>>60644134
The single most effective line that cuts through my hypochondriasis is "you can't live forever." It's about balance. I like nicotine, and the pouches are probably the least harmful ways to do it. Would it be better if I didn't do it all? Most likely, but my life would be blander without it. I only do it 4-6 times a week too, so I'm a light user.

>>60641720
so does coffee.
>>60641714
Not quite. Legit Swedish snus, which I also use, can be consumed with minimal impact. I think the only cancer associated with it was pancreatic, which it doubled, but pancreatic is already incredibly low, so it'd be like a non user had 1.5% chance of the cancer whereas a user had a 3% chance. Relatively speaking, not that bad. But I think even that association has come under scrutiny in recent years. Tl:dr, Swedish snus is just about as much of a free lunch as you're going to get if you have to have tobacco.

>>60641714
This is literally not true. They tried very hard to do it but never succeeded.

>>60644417
>They actually made vaping look cool instead of like a fag.
Lmao
You're a fag by default if you vape.
If you smoke cigarettes in 2025 you look like you've already given up on life.

>>60644490
>you look like you've already given up on life.
there are few things more upsetting to NPC programmed retards than smoking. this is entirely down to lots of propaganda, well-funded, documented, and understood. meanwhile you took to sucking on a plastic cartridge full of mystery nicotine juice like a duck to water. nevermind the zillion other pills and drugs you are all using.

have a cigarette and a cup of coffee and stop worrying about what morons think. They have no clue about anything.

i wish smoking wasnt bad. it's a neat way to pass some time with a friend outside. who wants to go for a walk or stand outside for a bit? no one? how about for a smoke break?
ive been smoke free for years now though.

Where could I source or find a provider for Snus for cheap instead of going to the main brands?

>>60640706 (OP)
since my uncle died horribly from lung cancer I quit smoking
It even scares me, and since it's been about two years since I quit, now the smell makes me want to vomit
At least it's money I can put into memes and my shido, but now anything with nicotine is one of those things that disgusts me

>>60640853
Thank you for this. Now I can nut

>>60644537
The best part is this attitude comes often from absolute land whales. Morbidly obese people give me a much bigger impression that they’ve given up on life, but in the USA it’s oddly accepted

>>60644049
the polacrilex formula in lozenges is designed to give you as little of a buzz as possible. it's even less of a buzz than the old school nicotine base vapes, and way less than the salts they put in the pouches

>>60644134
>>60640754
They were being shilled by some youtuber I was watching and he glanced at the packaging and mentioned it says assembled in India...

>>60640754
>>60640811
>>60641720
>>60644417
Your kidneys are responsible for breaking down nicotine and it takes up a large amount of their filtering power, if you’re chronically dehydrated like most people are your risk of kidney disease is very real. C.S. Lewis died from kidney failure because of all the pipe tobacco he smoked

>>60641714
swedish snus tobacco doesn't cause cancer and is exempt from cancer warnings. the tsna content is virtually nothing and no pah no smoke. Nothing to cause cancer.