He only got 600k *GBP* for them, too. But this raises an interesting ethical dilemma; in the post-religous Western world, do we have to assume all apparatus of the state are equally corrupt? And thefore we are released from our societal "obligations" to pay tax, return the shopping cart, etc

this is happening in all countries lately, rogue feds are draining crypto from their seized assets lol

Anyone who still believes in the rules-based international order of governments and being a good citizen is a fossilbrained retard. There are no rules.

Your only purpose on this earth is to squeeze and swindle as much money as possible from any given state for your own benefit without getting caught. Big props to this dude who just wanted to take care of his loved ones and leave a couple of dimes for his kids.

>>60649476
If by some miracle white people got an ethnostate to try and reinstitute high trust society, would you move there, or stay out in the griftoverse?

>>60649505
There's no such thing as a high trust society and there never was and never will be. It only exists in the minds of depressed morons who read too much fiction about Good Guys and Bad Guys and somehow failed to grasp the scope of human nature across the span of our entire history. Cavemen used to bash the heads of their peers in their tribe, risking driving their entire village into extinction just because the other guy had more berries and meat. We have not evolved since and never will, we just got really good at hiding it and will continue to do so while applying increasingly convoluted mental gymnastics to tell ourselves we're successfully suppressing our "bad" primal urges with "ethics" and "decorum" and "psychology". Desperately pretending we are not animals up to and until our grave.

>>60649505
Yes good luck with that. No matter how many times you fail, remember to excuse the failure with
>Real white ethanostates have never been properly tried before
If it ever happened (it won't) it would be full of self-interested secular larpers, who are just as bad as the current lot. Without a strong religious moral schema, everyone will sell out at some point. I think there is no obligation to the state,take everything you can get away with, apologise when caught for a lighter sentence and then do it again

>>60649536
Very good, anon. I forget the exact quote, there's an apt passage in "All Quiet on the Western Front" where Kat says we are all savages, with just a thin veneer of civilization scraped on top, like marmalade. I suspect he and you are right. But that veneer *can* overcome the savagery. Consider the Christian king, forgiving his enemy and baptising them on the same field they fought upon. Even during ages of violence and turmoil the civilisation can "win out". Today we are reductionist, and there is no incentive to not be selfish. But tomorrow who knows

>>60649336 (OP)
surely our democratically elected governments would be that! it is the people that always decide to continue giving them power after all!!

>>60649550
>But that veneer *can* overcome the savagery.

It doesn't overcome it, the mental gymnastics (i.e religion in your Christian king example) simply temporarily override it to allow people to do performative "good deeds". It goes against our nature and is obviously doomed to forever be a facade that has to be constantly maintained either outwards or inwards or both for the facade to not slip or seep into the conscious mind.

Civilization has absolutely never "won out" beyond the hyper specific example you mentioned, because for every one such instance, billions have died in the background, in poverty, to savagery and indifference, in droves and mass graves, unknown to the pages of history. This continues today even with the advent of technology. 109 billion people have died since the beginning of time, 95% unknown and unremembered by anyone. We tell ourselves we cant save em all, but that's just cope in its purest form. It is our nature to step on the heads of our species to ultimately derive meaning out of life. But there is no such meaning, and never will be. The only thing that is real, is your survival instinct and your greed to it and by extension, the best way to satisfy that survival - money.

>>60649541
>If it ever happened (it won't) it would be full of self-interested secular larpers
Norway was literally doing it for a while. The nazis got rid of the politicians so modern Norway was built by workers turned politicians, now with career politicians everything is tuning to shit. In order to sustain a high trust society we must
>Keep out the lesser races
>Kill all career politicians and cull the wealthy every few generations to keep the metaphorical garden healthy.
>Not faulter
This would also have the side effect of removing jews and thereby calming the growth of the destructive elements within the upper classes.

>>60649637
Calm down /pol/

This is the gayest thread I have ever seen in my life. How come walruses don't rape and murder their young? How come you don't get raped when you go to the supermarket? Trust can exist in societies, you've just been living in diverse swamps where you have nothing in common with your neighbor. Do you all not have a single friend? Living in a high trust society means your children can walk home unattended, you act like this is some kind of unachievable utopia where in realty you just have to be in a city that doesn't have minorities, crackheads, or white trash. The jews unironically got ahead by building high trust societies amongst themselves.

>>60649661
Then riddle me this, Batman. Do you take any steps to actively reduce the tax you pay? If yes, you're a hypocrite- shitting on those who claim self-interest is the great motivator whilst actively participating in a self-interest zero sum game. If no, you're retarded and should not be on /biz/ (those aren't mutually exclusive) but enriching ourselves at the expense of others is literally the entire reason this board exists

>>60649592
try being more blackpilled anon.
holy shit i'm a pragmatic but you're making shit up. You can decide to be good if you want. Most people don't of course.
ultimately i would say most of mankind is simply stupid and controlled by lower impulses. but you don't have to be like this. Some people do good things, even if good means killing some shitty people it can still be good

>>60649336 (OP)
How do you even seize Bitcoin?

>we absolutely NEED sky daddy to tell us that raping and murdering is wrong!
why are religious tards like this? can't they *just* be good, decent people without imagining some kind of deity that would punish them for misbehaving?

The guy who arrested Ross Ulbricht did the same shit. Greed is very tempting. I think the Bible says something about it

>>60649476


>>60649536
Did you copy paste this from a jewish demoralization handbook?

>>60649848
That's kinda my point. With the Balkanization of countries into ethic enclaves, the idea that you should do "the right thing" to benefit your fellow citizens falls away, when the majority of those "fellow citizens" show no loyalty or duty to you. In the absence then of a civic impetus to act in the interest of the collective over the individual, I suspect only a religious schema can prevail- and most people don't have one anymoar

>>60649505
>>60649536
>>60649541
The problem won't be fixed by just having an ethnostate (though it would be immeasurably better for us); the problem is the presence of cluster-B genes in all populations. Get rid of those, especially (((those))), and you'll have a utopia.

>>60649536
>>60649541
You deserve (((them))) with that attitude.

>>60649476
> literally me

>>60649536
Jewish demoralisation copy paste? Must be a new one.