So when will the next bear market start? - /biz/ (#60678224) [Archived: 23 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: P2AhI1Ey
7/23/2025, 1:02:33 PM No.60678224
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Late 2025? Maybe even as late as 2027-2028?
They have been yelling 'RECESSION IMMINENT!!' since 2023, saying that you should go into bonds, and the markets have been hitting ath after ath for two years now.
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Anonymous ID: U8Dya43N
7/23/2025, 1:07:24 PM No.60678236
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>>60678224 (OP)
The market can remain irrational longer then you can remain solvent, or something like that
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Anonymous ID: T1XbzDZy
7/23/2025, 1:16:33 PM No.60678264
>>60678224 (OP)
If tarrifs and high interest rates can't stop the market what would the catalyst even be for a bear market? When the market does finally turn, the US has lots of room to maneuver it. Everyone will love Powell all of a sudden.
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Anonymous ID: Z8kEEVMd
7/23/2025, 1:16:54 PM No.60678268
>>60678236
>Nobody knows why

It's people. People are tired of being poor. It doesn't matter what happens now, the market will never crash again. Recession will literally never happen again. More and more people are starting to realize this system is completely made up and is regularly being manipulated on demand. Number will never go down again unless it is intended.

The only people who DONT realize this are the leftists, the doom/black pilled, and the fossils with 401ks.
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Anonymous ID: U8Dya43N
7/23/2025, 1:19:39 PM No.60678274
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>>60678268
>Why is the market not collapsing
>People are tired of being poor
Ah, gotcha. Thanks.
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Anonymous ID: enOtcY2Z
7/23/2025, 1:30:01 PM No.60678304
>>60678264
Probably when China invades Taiwan. The AI revolution will be reset
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Anonymous ID: hVzNgkS8
7/23/2025, 1:33:24 PM No.60678316
2022 happened without tariffs and constant geopolitical flip-flopping so I remain hopeful
Anonymous ID: Z8kEEVMd
7/23/2025, 1:35:06 PM No.60678327
>>60678268
The US and Israel raped Iran militarily in literally 2 WEEKS and the world just laughed and moved on. Anyone who is old enough to remember 9/11 knows how much of a sign of the times this act was. For decades doomers cried about how this would trigger a world war, nukes would be flying. The reality is that nobody gives a shit about Iran enough to sink the world into war. China gives no fucks and continues winning from the sidelines. Russia understands it will always remain only a theoretical threat and can only engage the US in shitpost-warfare on social media, nothing more.

Trump is unironically the best president the US had for decades, and the perfect man in the perfect time to successfully navigate a clown-world, because he is the physical manifestation of that clownness. The Dollar will forever remain king, the US will forever reign supreme in global markets. The leftists are crying about ICE deportations but literally who gives a fuck about illegal immigrants? Zero contribution to the economy, barely any taxes, poverty culture.

Pajeets were about to nuke each other over some mild dispute and the dude just walked in, made a deal, and that was that. The journalists dont realize that their fact-based "source?" worldview is not compatible with reality anymore. I dont give a single fuck how many kids Trump raped or didnt, for all I care he could drink a cup of baby blood every morning and then have a massive orgy with a bunch of preteens in the afternoon. Literally do not care. Markets are stable? Good enough for me. Nothing else matters, the added bonus of retards crying about decorum and good senses and TACO is just the cherry on top.
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Anonymous ID: 74fBxbOW
7/23/2025, 1:38:16 PM No.60678338
Its a psyop to keep bond yields suppressed. The reality is bonds have just entered a multidecade bear market
Anonymous ID: Z8kEEVMd
7/23/2025, 1:38:29 PM No.60678339
>>60678274
Nobody gives a shit about the national debt. It's all made up sweety.
Anonymous ID: 1T1BkLLe
7/23/2025, 1:45:35 PM No.60678356
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>>60678327
>morals are for losers bro, I don't care if you drink a cup of baby blood, as long as I can make money bro
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Anonymous ID: qFKr+tuu
7/23/2025, 1:52:43 PM No.60678390
>>60678356
>morals have existed in western politics in our lifetime
They're just not good at hiding it anymore
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Anonymous ID: 1T1BkLLe
7/23/2025, 1:55:39 PM No.60678400
>>60678390
>muh heckin' "western" !!! western bad, eastern good

the problem is woke leftism, increasing in intensity every decade after the cultural revolution in the 60s. right wing traditionalists have been suppressed

that doesn't mean you have an excuse to be ok with drinking baby blood, you still have morals on a personal level
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Anonymous ID: Z8kEEVMd
7/23/2025, 2:02:49 PM No.60678424
>>60678356
>>60678400
>you still have morals
Cant pay for bread with muh morals. When I was poor, nobody gave a shit about my good intentions and pure heart. Only people who have never felt starvation give two shits about these theatrics.
Anonymous ID: U0XHlphu
7/23/2025, 2:21:35 PM No.60678482
>>60678224 (OP)
They've been wrong since 2023, anon. Bull run isn't over till the fed raises rates to 10% and unemployment hits 20%. Keep stacking.
Anonymous ID: JxqzYvhi
7/23/2025, 3:27:30 PM No.60678783
>>60678236
>nobody knows
Look at M2 money supply.
Anonymous ID: Ykxl8xJj
7/23/2025, 6:17:48 PM No.60679576
>>60678224 (OP)
everyone is guessing late 2025 so it wont be late 2025
Anonymous ID: bNi+as/y
7/23/2025, 7:01:12 PM No.60679748
my only recommendation as a get quick rich scheme is to buy and hold as many shares of BITI as you can accumilate while BTC is flirting with ATH prices at the 120k region.
Trump is doing everything possible to keep air in the crypto bubble as his social media stock DJT is the main conduit for the wealth he is accruing via crypto transactions from shitcoins and direct investments into his crypto projects by foreign governments looking to appease Trump to curry favor from his foreign policy and trade decisions.
If you look at BITO, the long BTC ETF you can see 2.7 Billion assets under management while BITI, the short BTC ETF currently only has 76 million assets under management.
If we get any meaningful correction in BTC prices, there will be a huge outflow from BITO into BITI that will either drive shareprices up much higher like triple digits or we'll see the fund offer stock splits like 3-1 or possible 5-1 stock split to keep the price per share from being too high.
I think it is worth it to invest into at least 100 shares but my strong recommendation is to purchase 1000 shares and either enjoy monthly dividend or if you are able to hold it for a year then start to sell aggressive covered call strategy on hopefully 30 to 50 contracts worth of options when we're in the next BTC bear market.
Thank you for reading my personal financial blog
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Anonymous ID: haUm2sYn
7/23/2025, 7:19:36 PM No.60679843
>>60679748
Instead of all this, why not just stack cash and go all in btc during the next bear market in 2026-2027.
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Anonymous ID: Hi9IISfW
7/23/2025, 7:20:42 PM No.60679851
>>60678304
So in 4 years when Trumps out of office?
Anonymous ID: bNi+as/y
7/23/2025, 7:33:24 PM No.60679927
>>60679843
>past performance is no guarantee of future results
there is no guarantee that bitcoin will even rise above it's current price in the event of a major downward market correction due to the fact that the consequences of that decline might induce another version of a global financial crisis due to the fact that many financial institutions are treating crypto investments like collateralize debt obligations were treated back in the early 2000s. There is a serious risk that another large market correction similar to the previous cycles will cause large financial contagion that forces crypto regulation that prevents large spike in prices or rise in the price that we are all used to with BTC during it's previous cycles.