Welcome to Garizz Economicths! So BITCOOYN yeah? It’s like this fake worfless internet fing that’s definitely goin to zero.. the real solution to all of our problemz is to tax the rich peepoo!

Sat-oshi is using his gains to advertise bitcooeen to gullible people then short the market! (Note from the editor: Gary literally said these exact words)

So yeah use your loaf innit.. central banking iz well good innit cos if we print money and give it to poor people then no one will be poor dya get me??

Fanks for listenin today dis iz Garizz Economicths signin off boss, BOSH…
…innit

this guy is a cross between an ape and a pitbull

>>60693016 (OP)
Biz hates him but he is very obviously right about taxing billionaires. Imagine bootlicking reptiles like bezos and the zucc lmao


But his book was incredibly boring, fuck this guy for wasting my time on that

>>60693039
You read his book?
*three tears of laughter emojis*

This dude is dumber than a rock.

This retard said Putin invaded Ukraine cause he has kids and wants to leave a legacy

i mean, it's kind of ridiculous to allow the wealthy to buy real estate as an investment, driving up prices for people that actually want to live there

>>60693041
Audiobook while cardio, it’s a life hack usually but not this time kek

Also people just calling him a retard are honestly retards. If not how come he’s a multi multi millionaire and most of us are not? His credentials are real. I do think his whole persona is odd but he’s probably more fun to hang out with that 95% of the money YouTube monkeys

lmao is this this guy's "message"?
I've never watched his content, all I know is that Youtube put his video into my recommended for weeks, when I never showed any interest in it, and I've literally never been pushed a piece of content that hard before.
Big money behind this guy, total psy-op.

>>60693054
I think he was basically a diversity hire at his job. He said himself they just wanted to hire a working class person to show off. Gary is the closest they could get to a black guy without actually being black.

He earned his money the same way black female AI engineers do

>>60693058
Yea I only looked into him because he was so obviously injected into my feed totally against the algo

>>60693016 (OP)
As a northerner who regards Leeds as the midlanders and Manchester as southern poofs. What Gary describes is poor would be regarded as well off here. Watched his recent vid this morning... This kid had a pair of fucking plimsolls and the spoilt little brat lost them. Me and my sibling only had one plimsoll to share. We wouldn't dare lose our plimsoll. We were fucking proud to have a plimsoll, most kids didn't have a plimsoll. We used to have to hide out plimsoll from the other kids so they wouldn't steal it. So when he didn't have plimsolls, get this... he had to play football in his fucking school shoes. What the fuck... The little brat had 2 pairs of fucking shoes and they had a fucking football. We used to take our plimsoll to our rich aunties (the auntie with the mirror) and take turns standing next to it and pretend what it would be like to be rich and have 2 plimsolls. Oh and Gary's parents... His 2 parents, who both had stable jobs and weren't alcoholics... actually rewarded him for losing his fucking plimsolls by buying him another fucking pair the next year.

>>60693016 (OP)
Kek

>>60693039
Everyone on /biz/ is far closer to Gary than they are to Bezos, whether they want to admit that or not.
Its pretty obvious at this point that the current approach to tax is very flawed, in that the elites can spend millions to not have to pay tax on their billions. When most of us are worried if cashing out our crypto is gonna knock us into a higher tax bracket.
Guy has fuck you money and he's using that to do about something he's passionate about, isn't that what we all want?

>>60693092
100% agree

>>60693070
Up North, where i'm from up north, you'd be dragged behind the bike sheds and beaten within an inch of your life for that plimsole, and my god a mirror, we had to use the Boots chemist window on the local high street after the window cleaner had done his round.

>>60693092
Rich people pay the lions share of taxes. If your gripe is tax contributions, blame the poor. The top 10% of earners in the US pay 75% of federal income taxes.

>>60693120
<--- This is you

>>60693120
>Rich people pay the lions share of taxes
in absolute terms, yes. in relative terms, they pay capital gains tax which is much lower than income tax. them paying the lions share despite their relative tax burden being lower just demonstrates the wealth inequality

>>60693127
There's wealth inequality because some people get up at 5am, go for a run, and then go to work on their own business for 12 hours, and other people wake up at 11am, smoke a bong, then watch YouTube all day.
Wealth inequality is a healthy reflection of innate human inequality.

>>60693127
I think this is Gary's general point, his axe to grind is more with the ultra rich / investment class (top 1%) than the top 10%.

>>60693120
London is the dark money capital of the world, it dwarfs new york. the Brit elites did a fantastic job at the end of world war 2 pivoting to finance and have continued to extract wealth from the people to private islands for generations.

That's what Gary's trying to rally the people against.

But, just like the 1% rallies in 2008, as soon as we see any sort of questions against the elite (old money) we see the group attack each other (fags/tranny/nigger/jeet) it doesn't matter what it is as long as it's not poor's noticing they will be poor forever.

>>60693054
He's a complete charlatan who was mediocre at his job (multiple people who have worked with him have said so). He lies about having been some kind of prodigy genius who outperformed everyone. This podcast shows how much of a twat he is. Daniel Priestly is another guru grifter, but at least he is more honest about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yohVh4qcas&t=124s

>>60693133
and that's completely fair, i missed that you were talking about income tax specifically. like >>60693134 said, those high earners are not the problem gary is talking about, it's compounding investments into real world assets by the rich that increase asset prices for non-investors

>>60693120
That's exactly it, and even when its pointed out to people, you get simpleminded replies like these.
>>60693137
>>60693133

Any of us siding with the elites is like, a Gazelle siding with the Lion, its fine if you aren't the slowest one in the pack.

Nobody wants to pay taxes, but if we do have to, because non of us want live in a country that's a shit tip, the least theyy could do is make it a FAIR tax system

>>60693139
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c1DogpL-7f4

This was a pretty good roasting. Gary is like a reverse Michael Saylor, repeats himself constantly but every time he repeats himself you understand less of what he’s trying to say

>>60693109
How do you think we got the plimsoll? Clean windows. We didn't have windows in our town or bike sheds. Ye need to have a bike for it to be a bike shed. You know what we called our shed. We called it Home and we were glad to have one. No door, but it was good not having a door or a window. We could look outside at those barefooted unfortunates in the rain and it would warm us up inside. Chemist? When we were sick we'd just take turns chewing the fucking plimsoll until we felt better. The only boots we knew were the ones up our backsides or if we needed to visit the dentist. Some of my best childhood memories were gumming that delicious plimsoll fighting the pneumonia looking out of our home at the power station dreaming about growing up and serving time as a coal shovellers apprentice. It's just what ye did, every kids dream to shovel the coal, ye didn't want to end up in the pit.

>>60693016 (OP)
9/11 post in bongland

>>60693016 (OP)
I can't stand this retard.
BTW, he lied about his entire life story.
He wasn't even near the top-trader at the company he worked for. His own coworkers and bosses called him a liar.

I forget the video on YouTube, but a guy did a 20 minute cover of this dude and how fake his book is.

This guy is the definition of an astroturf. He came out of nowhere and conveniently peddles the left-wing 'tax the rich!' narrative.

>>60693039
WTF are you talking about out? Most retards on reddit and 4chan are Ethnonationalists/NatSocs, or Communists/BernieBros. Libertarianism and its offshoots died-off from this website over a decade ago. Very few Libertarians, or even Dark Enlightenment people are left on this site.

Keep parroting the same retarded talking points, I'm sure taxing Bezos more will save America.
>bootlicker
Calling people that want to be left alone and leave other people alone = bootlicker? But, appealing to daddy government to steal from 'le evil rich man!' so you can get free gibs because you're a welfare parasite = freedom fighter? Lmfao. The irony is always right in your face and you can't even see it.

>>60693152
Ooof you lucky jotter living so close to that power station. Pilms and a powerstation! ! bet you could feel the warmth on your faces. I used to dream of living next to a coal power station. All we had to fight off the cold was the radiation of Sellafield.

>>60693188
Well if ye had no plimsolls you know you'd be going to the pit barefoot. We had one plimsoll... We dare hop in it or it would be worn out before ye could even use it to shovel coal. Our brother died, defending the plimsoll from others who also desired the fine life of a shovellers apprentices, so we had a choice... I got the plimsoll and my sister ate our brother. It brings me joy I was able to help my sister, as I could have ate our brother, kept the plimsoll and traded her for a second plimsoll, but alas there was no second plimsoll to trade her for. She was so upset when I couldn't find a second. It gave her enough strength to walk to the big city and she got a job at hotel next to the train station. She became a doormat at the hotel for the big city folks to wipe there feet on. She promised one day she'd earn enough to get me the second plimsoll and send it to me. One year they needed 3 shovellers apprentices... But only 2 people had pairs of plimsolls. I never found another plimsoll but since no one else had even but a plimsoll they let me in with a single plimsoll. Happiest day of my life that was. Can ye imagine... Me? A coal shovellers apprentice. Only problem was the plimsoll was a right foot, and I was born with two left feet. So I used to have to hop on me right left foot with me right shoe. It was painful, but it was good cos people would think I had a right right foot. At least until I wore a hole in it and my right left foot toe popped out of a hole on the right side and my big toe could be seen on the right side of the right shoe.

>>60693199
those northern feels

>>60693185
it's not like the ultra wealthy are malicious or something. their investments compound, so they buy more assets. their living expenses are essentially zero, so the entirety of their wealth goes into buying more assets. it's logical, everyone would do this. if this goes on long enough, the wealth rises to the top, asset prices rise because of the "demand" for more investments and to buy them poor people have to sell their future earnings to the rich in the form of debt, which is just another asset for them to buy. everyone acted rationally here, but the result is a society in which almost everyone is unhappily scraping by while the rich don't notice any increase in happiness. sometimes systems don't work out if everyone acts in their own interest. some systems work out beautifully on their own, some require regulation. this is one of the latter

>>60693199
>>60693202
I haven't even got to the part where the magical hasidic penguin turns up and offers me a million plimsolls to write a book called the plimsoll game.

>>60693203
There’s a certain level of youthful naïveté where you think there’s some benevolent government just waiting to redistribute the assets of billionaires to the poor and needy.
Growing up is realising that the government are even bigger grifters than the billionaires, and every penny they get from the rich (who earned it through innovation and risk taking) just goes into the pockets of the government’s cronies (who didn’t earn anything).

>>60693016 (OP)
Taxing rich fags will probably not going to plug up the holes in the budget, but what the hell, why not tax them so more, less yachts for them the better.

>>60693203
>it's not like the ultra wealthy are malicious or something.
Applying malicious to anyone ultra-succesful without actual evidence showing how they're personally evil people.

>their investments compound, so they buy more assets.
Like everyone else. You and I are doing the same thing.

>their living expenses are essentially zero, so the entirety of their wealth goes into buying more assets.
Their living expenses are 1000x higher than ours, it's just a smaller percentage of their networth.

>it's logical, everyone would do this.
Except they don't. There are plenty of rich people that end up poor making stupid decisions and there are plenty of poor people that stay poor because they'd rather have a new Cadillac in the driveway instead of investing their savings.

The rest of what you said is just empty platitudes. Wealth isn't a zero-sum game. People aren't forced to take on debt, they choose to.

It's not Elon Musk, or Jeff Bezos's fault that you can't afford a 2,200sqft house in your local town on a single income. It's not their fault grocery prices are more expensive. It's not their fault your electric bill has been increasing.

Economics is incredibly complex and breaking it down to 'le rich people have ruined it!' is chimpanzee-tier thinking. But sure, go ahead and tax the rich more, they totally won't outsource more jobs. Let's give everyone more welfare, I'm sure flooding the grocery stores, car dealerships and residential housing market with more cash will solve the problems.

>>60693224
even if a lot of it gets squandered on bureaucracy and corruption, it will reduce asset speculation, driving down prices. it's still a scandal when government corruption comes to light, so i'm not that jaded yet to believe that all tax dollars vanish into a hole. they do currently, but that's because governments took on debt from the rich they are supposed to be taxing

>>60693243
so my naive solution would be: tax the rich, use the money to pay back the debt the governments owes so it gains back independence, then use future taxes to improve infrastructure and do government things. which are now affordable again, because the government doesn't have to compete with investors for land and housing

>>60693241
It doesn't matter, if rich fags want functioning and non hostile to them society they will need to cash out some, bread and circuses and whole that. Known for thousands of years.

>>60693224
Don't get me wrong, i'm no class warrior, or blaming the investment class. They are just doing what is in their own best interests. I do, however, find it hard to agree with this:
>who earned it through innovation and risk taking

While its not wholly untrue, some did indeed start from next to nothing and made themselves rich, most were born into a life of privilege. Even those often touted as self made men, were hardly born in poverty like Warren Buffett (son of a congressman), Bill Gates (son of a law firm owner) and Elon Musk (son of a emerald mine owner).

Sure the governments suck, but at least they are answerable to the people eventually.

>>60693016 (OP)
Why do these leftist bootlickers love central banking and government intervention so much?

>>60693039
>very obviously right about taxing billionaires
Lmao you're a bootlicker who wants to be enslaved by the state
>bootlicking
Listen to yourself
You people support central banking and inflation

>>60693185
>Libertarianism and its offshoots died-off from this website
You're literally retarded. Plenty of this website and especially /biz/ is Libertarian.
Milei's success shows Libertarianism works.
The amount of seething hatred Libertarians get shows they really struck a nerve. Funny that they ended up being right about everything.

>>60693241
>It's not Elon Musk, or Jeff Bezos's fault that you can't afford a 2,200sqft house in your local town on a single income. It's not their fault grocery prices are more expensive. It's not their fault your electric bill has been increasing.

I don't think ANYONE is saying that it is their fault. Just saying when I pay 40% tax, on my earnings. I'd expect Warren & Jeff and the gang to do the same.

>>60693276
Why don't we just lower everyone's taxes to those rates instead of trying to raise everyone's taxes?

>>60693249
>so my naive solution would be: tax the rich, use the money to pay back the debt the governments owes so it gains back independence,

How exactly do you tax the rich?
The motto of the ultra rich is to not own anything, but benefit and have control it. It's technically owned by trusts, shell and holding companies etc. You don't need to personally own houses, cars, yachts, private jets, art collections etc. to use them.

Whatever can be extracted in taxes is a piss in the ocean to what the government deficit and debt is.

>>60693278
I would be equally in favour of that.

For instance if everyone, whether you have £10 or £10Billion paid 5%, i think that would be a much fairer world.

>>60693016 (OP)

>>60693281
>Whatever can be extracted in taxes is a piss in the ocean to what the government deficit and debt is.

So we should fix neither because everything is fucked?

>>60693241
>Applying malicious to anyone ultra-succesful without actual evidence showing how they're personally evil people.
i did not understand what you mean. i said they are not malicious, just acting rational, like you or i would

>Like everyone else. You and I are doing the same thing.
yes. the difference being that our investments are a drop in the bucket. if we ever get to the level where the wealth asset taxes would apply, the will do so for us as well. this limit can be very high. what would you be comfortable with? 10 million net worth? 100 million? everything after that you pay 90% tax or something on asset returns. as an idea to address the inevitable kneejerk reaction, business owners get to rescind part of their ownership to the company itself, gradually turning it into an employee owned company, still allowing it to use the full amount of worth for operations. these are just random ideas, but i hope you see that these issues are not insurmountable, they just need to be thought about and addressed. there is no political will to do so right now, but that can and should change

>Their living expenses are 1000x higher than ours, it's just a smaller percentage of their networth.
true, and they earned that 1000x and should enjoy their life

>Wealth isn't a zero-sum game. People aren't forced to take on debt, they choose to.
if your wages are not keeping up with prices, your choices are limited. you can choose to let your children be cold for a few months during winter, but i wouldn't call that "free to choose"

>It's not Elon Musk, or Jeff Bezos's fault that you can't afford a 2,200sqft house in your local town on a single income. It's not their fault grocery prices are more expensive. It's not their fault your electric bill has been increasing.
there are many factors, but compounding investments by the rich increasing prices of essentials is one of them that can be addressed without any real noticeable harm to anyone. why not do it?

>>60693039
Kys gary

>>60693281
>How exactly do you tax the rich?
gary suggests taxing assets, so it doesn't matter which legal entity owns them. not sure how to make sure it only applies to the rich then though. it's definitely complicated to do right, but i believe there are smart people with solutions, what's needed is the political will to do it

>>60693092
No, I am farther from Gary 100% not on a money basis but and ideological one. He is quite literally a marxist foriegn agent and any sane society would cement his feet and send him to the bottom of the English channel

Worse than the idiot socialists, he knows he is wrong. Thus can be considered nothing more than malicious and evil

>>60693305
Hmmmm very interesting, care to elaborate? If Gary’s ideology is so flawed, you’d think it would be easier to beat him with arguments rather than concrete shoes.

>>60693302
And in a globalized world the rich can just fuck off to or move their wealth to more tax friendly jurisdictions.

Well, ok. I'll just sell all my real estate and buy a billion worth of bitcoin and take out a loan against it. Tax that.

>>60693322
i think the idea is that you tax the asset. it does not matter where the owner of the asset lives, they get taxed by the country the asset is in. if you want to own real estate in london, you have to pay the asset tax to london

>>60693322
>Well, ok. I'll just sell all my real estate and buy a billion worth of bitcoin and take out a loan against it. Tax that.
that would be fine, since you are no longer competing with regular people for real world assets. it's not about taking away the money of the rich, it's about reducing the negative impact it has on others

>>60693322
If all the west was to implement this together though, then that would be different. Either pay your share or live in a shit hole. If you want: nice roads, reliable power, high speed internet, fair policing, reliable health care, fire service, mail service, and all the amenities that brings like shopping malls, fancy restaurants, parks, nightlife. You'll stay and pay for it.

>>60693318
He doesnt debate, the few moments he did he gets wrecked. He speaks alone into a camera with the same technique every video, droning on about surface level finance and precisely at the moment when the zoomer audience tunes out, he drops the payload

"And that's why we need to tax the rich"
It doesn't even logically connect to his previous rhetoric

the big reasons why he is wrong, besides the blatant manipulation that only works on low iq

1. Quantity of wealth- simple mathematics can show that the needs of the bottom far outweigh the holdings of the top. There is no utility in equal distribution beyond satiating a perverse envy
2.inequality is not the problem- the problem is the struggle of the bottom, not the gap that exists between them and the top. If bezos had 4 quadrillion but everyone else had job, home, family, freedom, then the gap does not matter. Its a misdirected fixation

Those are the big ones for me but there is literal dozens more

>>60693340
The rich will always have these services wherever they live that’s why they’re gleefully turning every western country into 3rd world shitholes where everyone works for $2 a day

>>60693340
It's not that I'm against the wealthy paying their fair share, but the problem is reckless wasteful government spending, welfare leaching and wealth extraction by central banks. It doesn't matter how much taxes are collected if it's just wasted away. It's like giving a junkie money every month hoping he will do something useful with it.

They can take your lifetimes worth of taxes payed and just waste it in some bullshit. That's what you should start to be mad about.

>>60693365
Yes but the problem is that Bezos has 4 quadrillion whilst the median person owns nothing and has no money.
Our economy is constantly growing in productivity but this only seems to afford any benefit to the very richest - the quality of life of the average man keeps going down. This is a real problem.

>>60693479
nobody doesn't recognize that. But that problem is not caused by a lack of taxation on bezos. There is ample supply of people who are ok with low wages (the status quo). incidentally, many of them are immigrants, the people gary loves so much

(let's forget the fact that immigrants have been a net loss for every western nation)

if 80% of people were not ok with wages, you will see things like during the industrial revolution. everybody eventually wanted to work for the factory owners who didn't exploitmaxx on their employees. If working conditions are shit because some guy at the top is taking 90%, all that needs to happen is for a bunch of guys to stand up and compete with him on wages. That did happen, and thats how we got where we are today (i.e. you have holiday and sick days instead of working literally every day except christmas)

But thats impossible because were all addicted to importing $2/hr jeets

then after 3 generations they'll need to find a next group to import and exploit so they can send money to their shitty third world home via gc*sh

>>60693479
Like I said before, the problem is the bottom having nothing, not the top, not the gap between them. Ive also established that there is no utility in robbing the top, because the aggregate wealth of the top is insignificant when divided by the massive amount of people in the bottom

If you want to help the poor, you do it by teaching them, not by giving them stuff

>>60693524
>But thats impossible because were all addicted to importing $2/hr jeets
and this cunt retard miongrel Gary is telling the very people who are victims of this policy (native population of lower class), to be OK with it, love it mate, they are just like you and I mate. One love bruv one world innit mate. Yer lad tax the rich proper.

Thats the psyop and thats why he was made big

Thats why none of the funders care that he lied or whatever (wo'eva). they'll just keep pushing him forever mate bruv like a financial greta thunberg innit. Just like her, he will be around forever. mysteriously being invited to all these big events...why?>

it's too easy to play retards

>>60693524
The endgame of mass migration is equality.

>Why should my kids earn $200 a day to do something that an African or Paki will do for $20 a day? How about we bring over enough to saturate the market so it balances out and you both earn $30 a day? You get a bit of a pay cut they get a pay rise.

That’s literally the mindset of the champagne socialist. I spoke to one and he admitted that he thinks that’s fair

it's a strong psyop, by its nature

people will very quickly listen to you if they have the perception that you are a bottom dweller who has made it to the top

I know because I use the tactic regularly to persuade people no matter their class

the problem is: low class people often dont appeal to university types and uni types cant appeal to the lower class. If you can strike a balance, which gary kind-of does, you have a very strong force. For regular people this means being born into a lower class family and being a high IQ outlier or perhaps having some mental superpower illness like assburgers. Certainly, gary is skilled at persuasion via emotional arguments

The problem with gary is that his arguments can only work on university tier midwits. not the realest chads. because as pointed out ITT his argumentation is completely false; the rich are already taxed

>>60693544
Yep. I have encountered many such people (I spent a lot of time in education)

Ironically, in a globalizing economy, that shit they dream of (muh fair wages for thirdies) would probably happen faster WITHOUT mass immigration!

>>60693534
>If you want to help the poor, you do it by teaching them, not by giving them stuff
which requires funding for schools, teachers, buildings, enough economic stability to allow for learning without having to worry about making ends meet. which is in jeopardy, because of the behavior of the top (which is not malicious, but follows the incentive structure set by the rules of the system we agree to live in)

>>60693576
Moreover, it doesn't really matter what you learn if you learn that you need to put in 1700 years of fulltime work to pay off a house, and that the only way to escape this lot is by being lucky enough to be a 1%er of your social class.

btw this is the first time since 2022 that I got banned for a proper reason. I would like to congratulate my personal stalker janny for taking the L and stopping his unjust banning spree. as a thank you, I did not evade

you still tongue my anus though

>>60693576
The school districts with the highest funding have some of the lowest test scores

Throwing money at the problem doesnt fix it.

>>60693588
Teach the poors to save in gold bitcoin or index funds and they dont have this problem

Im leaving this thread as I will die before explaining every commie why they are wrong and should feel bad

>>60693604
you're still gonna F5 and you will see that maybe you should learn to fucking read before calling someone a commie based on a (you)

>>60693185
>I forget the video on YouTube, but a guy did a 20 minute cover of this dude and how fake his book is.
doesn't seem to exist, can't find it