Chainlink's Automated Compliance Engine (ACE) is embedded into the token standard that institutions are using to tokenize all of their RWAs. This means that Chainlink services are being used by default via this token standard.

He who controls the data controls the world.

>>60723346 (OP)
price, oh and chart?
>inb4. Wife and kids
How am I supposed to afford that at current prices?

Hey, Sergey... can I have some money... please Sergey I am so hungry...

>>60723346 (OP)
As it's baked into a token standard. How does chainlink charge for this?

It's obviously good for creating a moat and making chainlink the easiest choice for other paid for services...

>>60723603

>>60723346 (OP)
I bought more LINK this week but then it dumped thoughbeit.
t. 5k newfag stacklet

>>60723724
Sure. It's being mandated. Which is good.

This will involve chainlink oracles but there is no method of value add to the LINK token directly?

>you vill kyc to the oracle
>you vill not be allowed to buy tokens unless you are a multimillionaire accredited investor
chainlink has failed

>>60723993
https://docs.chain.link/ccip/billing

They made this just for you.

>>60724148
Can't you use the erc3643 token standard without using CCIP?

I am really trying hard to remain patient but this is seriously getting annoying. We are in 2025 and not even at $20? How is that even possible?

>>60724193
>Can't you use the erc3643 token standard without using CCIP?
If youre trying to move ERC-3643 tokens across different blockchains, then no.

>>60724148
i know you think you’re proud of your self by posting that but faggot. everything works right now with out the token.

>>60723346 (OP)
BUT WILL IT MAKE THE DEMAND FOR THE LINK TOKEN INCREASE AND THEREFORE THE PRICE?!?!?!

>>60724324

>>60723346 (OP)
You vill use Chainlink.
And you VILL be happy.

>>60724193
>erc3643
>3+6+4+3=16
>1+6=7
Seven.

That's great and all but......price??? Chart??

>>60724296
Right. So this is just moat building for Chainlink services.

No doubt the usual suspects are pulling together Frankenstein patchwork competitor. And preparing large incentives for usage.

>>60724148
>https://docs.chain.link/ccip/billing

So you need to pay like a dollar in link per message

2 Questions

1. How many messages are getting sent?
2. You pay in link, so you buy link off the market (number goes up), but then once purchased you give it right back to CLL for the service. Won't they just sell it for USD to pay staff?

>>60723346 (OP)
LINK is down -6% today, so this clearly means nothing

>>60725401
Assume the Chainlink network secures $100T. Each of the n nodes in the first-tier DON stakes d LINK.
Total stake = d * n. To corrupt the DON, an attacker needs control of n/2 nodes, totaling:
d * (n/2) stake.
Any node can raise an alert if data is incorrect. If validated by the second-tier, the watchdog earns the attacker’s stake:
d * (n/2).

To suppress alerts, an attacker must bribe all n nodes with at least d * (n/2) each.
Total bribe cost = n * (d * (n/2)) = (d * n2) / 2.
This quadratic cost makes attacks more expensive as the network decentralizes.

Assume n = 33 nodes (current high-performance DON operators).
To secure $100T:
(d * 332) / 2 = 100T
(d * 1089) / 2 = 100T
Solving:
d = (2 * 100T) / 1089 ≈ $183.65B per node
Total stake: d * n ≈ 183.65B * 33 ≈ $6.06T

If 1B LINK is staked, LINK price =
$6.06T / 1B = $6,060.61
If only 678.1M LINK is staked:
$6.06T / 678.1M ≈ $8,937.33

To secure $100T with 33 nodes:

1B LINK: ~$6,060.61/LINK
678.1M LINK: ~$8,937.33/LINK
With more nodes (e.g. 1,000), required LINK per node drops, and price to secure drops (to ~$300/LINK).

>>60725524
So how come price no up go?

>>60725568
Because Eric Holder assassinated Paul Walker to cover up his illegal arms smuggling operation in Mexico known as Fast and Furious.

>>60723346 (OP)
ANOTHER ACRONYM CL LABS ROLLED OUT TO DANGLE THE CARROT IN FRONT OF THEIR BAGHOLDERS

>>60725568
It secures $50B, so price should be ~$5 but speculation + trump make it $16.

>>60723386
>>60723603
I can’t wait for the race to hunt you fucks down once smart contract assassinations become a thing.

>>60724324
Agony awaits you.

>>60724335
>>60724519
Acid baths

>>60725609
Thanks Trump

>>60725587
You're such a faggot

>>60725648
LIGHTEN UP, FRANCIS

>>60725524
based effort poster

That's nice but apparently it doesn't control THE FUCKING PRICE ACTION PIECE OF SHIT GARBAGE

>>60725524
>33 nodes
freemasons love sneaking that shit in

>>60723346 (OP)
>>60723724

>>60725609
staking actually secures nothing (the eth/usd price feed does not check accuracy, just uptime), so the token should be $0

But it literally doesn't even incentivize use of the token and actually requires you pay more and sacrifice security to, so why would anybody (they won't)?

>>60726297
kek now apply this logic to literally all other cryptos.
Including ETH because that shit barely pumped since PoS.

You’re fucking retarded you know that right

>>60727090
>doesn't even incentivize use of the token
Literally every single use of any Chainlink service incentivizes the use of the token.
It’s a technical requirement for the nodes to even function.

>>60725401
>you give it right back to CLL
No it goes to the nodes, who need to be incentivised to not immediately dump it back on the market. Which is why we need proper staking

>>60726154
We finally made it lads. The erc council upgraded us to next gen erc-3643 after that humiliating dowgrade to erc-10! Eat that moneyskelly

>>60727137
Sergey has a subscription program. He keeps all the payments for himself. Even those payments that you say are majored for certain services, they don't trigger a link buy-He just pockets it.

Here is how the CCIP Ethereum to Arbitrum contract works (0x925228d7b82d883dde340a55fe8e6da56244a22c) as an example.
>Users can pay fees in either LINK or WETH.
>When a fee is paid in LINK, it's directly added to a running total of LINK fees owed to Node Operators.
>If a fee is paid in WETH it calculates how much LINK that amount of WETH is worth.
>This conversion is added to the running total of LINK fees owed to the Node Operators. **NO ACTUAL TOKEN SWAP OCCURS HERE**
>Since Node Operators are always paid in LINK - the contract keeps track of how much LINK is owed to Node Operators based on all fees paid (in LINK or WETH equivalent).
>Since users can pay in WETH and Node Operators need LINK, there needs to be a way to ensure enough LINK is available.
>A separate contract called LinkAvailableBalanceMonitor (at address 0x25204a85dBC29300ce60133cedA267aAdb73CfBD) periodically adds LINK to this contract (manually triggered by ChainLink Labs). Ensuring there's always enough LINK to pay the Node Operators, even if many users paid in WETH.
>Since WETH is never actually converted to LINK, the WETH simply accumulates over time in this contract.
>The accumulated WETH can only be withdrawn by the contract owner (ChainLink Labs).
>There's a special function (withdrawNonLinkFees) that allows ChainLink Labs to take out all the WETH.
>This WETH withdrawal can happen at any time, as long as there's enough LINK in the contract to cover what's owed to Node Operators.
So essentially, CCL gets to keep all ETH fees and Node Operators get LINK.
This is not FUD, this is simply how the contract works; they have never used the withdrawNonLinkFees function and it's unclear what they intend to do with the WETH but it needs to be clear to everyone that a WETH/LINK swap NEVER happens.

>>60727137
They also license private software which is in-house and does not use the token or require public nodes. It is cheaper (particularly when it is often fully subsidized by Chainlink to get the headline of "partership") and is more secure in their own compliance/legal. And they still don't even move or store value and just use it for data feeds, which is NOTHING. All subsidized by token sales to retail who are fucking paypigs for private business operations and see zero value in their holdings while Chainlink private stock investors do well,

>>60727593
>but it needs to be clear to everyone that a WETH/LINK swap NEVER happens
prove it

>>60723346 (OP)
holding link is torture
imagine someone handed you a lottery ticket, which will definitely win at some point in the future, but the catch is you have to continuously hold it until it wins, let go, even for a second, and the ticket passes onto someone new

>>60727608
its been known for a couple years now. Its all on chain you can go look at the contracts.

>>60727686
nah i remember they were doing it specifically through a dex, you came here spouting lies so prove it. Why would I believe you over Chainlink labs?

>>60727607
>They also license private software which is in-house and does not use the token or require public nodes
You’re thinking of ripple. Most of their products like xrapid, Interledger Protocol, … explicitly do not require the XRP token at all.
Chainlink has nothing like this, literally all their products and usage needs the Link token.

>>60727715
>nah i remember they were doing it specifically through a dex, you came here spouting lies so prove it. Why would I believe you over Chainlink labs?
go and look at the fucking contract you twat. you wont believe anything i post regardless

>>60727721
No I'm not. Interledger protocol is optimized using XRP, as is Ripple Payments (it hasn't been called xrapid for years). The system itself is built to incentivize use of XRP once regulations allow for it and the ledger itself auto-bridges using XRP which is itself deflationary. THE LITERALLY OPPOSITE is true for Chainlink. Every incentive is stacked against its use and it is inflationary. In every way the business is built around XRP being used by Ripple the exact opposite is true for Chainlink Labs and all of their mostly fully subsidized customers.

>>60727608
I LITERALLY just described the contract in detail step-by-step. I DID prove it. Don't like it, you don't like your own investment (rational). Disagree? You don't understand your own investment. How you respond to this awareness determines whether you are a truth interested person or in a greed cult. And whether you are gonnna make it or not (choose instead to knowingly choose a bad channel over a dozen or so others that are clearly more viable and built to actual use of the token).

>>60727672
It will DEFINITELY not win. It is going to feel like a millstone you expect to propel you to outerspace but instead just drags you down until you realize it after the chance to change investment tact and still be early to web 3 passes you by.

>>60727869
Lmfao no. Ripple is not needed. Link is.
Go figure an xrpaypig is trying to run damage control for his shitcoin in a link thread.
Stay in your plebbit-brained containment thread, mouthbreather.

>>60727949
link is not needed or the price would reflect that right now

>>60727957
Many, many institutions disagree with you there and you're going to be even more of a mindbroken little bitch kvetching in every link thread posting under multiple ids once their designs go live.
But you already know that. It's why you're here in the first place and why you'll keep seething.

>>60727869
>optimized using XRP
I said they didn’t require XRP. And ripple is very clear that they don’t.
Chainlink has nothing like that. Every single product and service involves nodes being paid in Link tokens.

In other words you’re a xerpie projecting as hard as you can.

>>60727949
You have no argument and I am objectively right. Interledger is optimized using Ripple which is optimized using XRP. You are desperate and projecting and that is why you are mirroring my terminology in an extremely low effort/IQ way.

>>60727593
actually smart of them to keep the eth for now
in the end it doesnt really matter in which way the premine is distributed as long as all of it is distributed
this way cll can have a ton of eth in their corporate coffers to ensure limitless runway on eth staking rewards and the methheads will pay for it

when sergey announced the expedited release of the premine i was a bit worried they might deplete too soon, but it seems big serg was already way ahead here and figured out another source of revenue to fund operations

>>60727980
No they don't. Using the software does not translate to using the token. You have ZERO idea what you are talking about and literally don't understand your own investment or the technology

>>60727980
>It's why you're here in the first place and why you'll keep seething.
im here posting because i'm not a tourist and have been using chans since 2010.
you're missing my point. they are using them right now(anz) and the price should reflect. But its not

>>60727988
>>60727991
Throw all the tantrums and try to spam in link threads as much as you want. Your ignorance is your own problem and your own fault, xrpaypig, screeching louder wont help. As I said - you're stuck in these threads posting under multiple ids specifically because you know I'm right and it has driven you insane and made you very insecure lmfao.

>>60723346 (OP)
We predicted all this years ago. Wild to see it all confirmed. It was all true. All of it.

>>60727991
>Using the software does not translate to using the token
With Chainlink it literally does.
With ripple it officially does not.

You’re a jew rat holy shit

>>60728034
No point trying to correct the dumb animal's "thoughts." The fact that it's here in the first place seething at link just makes this all the sweeter.

>guise guise the erc is needed pls buy it pls
see ya all at $5, I can't wait to see how the shills will try to spin this

>>60723386
>inb4
no, here you go.
>>60725524
janitors should pin this

>>60728044
Absolutely subhuman behavior.
And he’s in every single Link thread vomiting the same braindead drivel, literally accusing Link of doing exactly what Ripple is doing.

Cripples are an abomination.

>>60728050
>can't wait for the whole market to crash and then single LINK out
We know bud.

>>60728034
Literally opposite, already addressed, with specific example of how the contracts work step by step painted out. You are objectively wrong because you don't understand either.

>>60728018
I'm not spamming or posting under any other IDs. You're sperging out because you can't defend a very simple argument that only talks about the software itself in extremely stripped down description. You are projecting and in the gayest cult imaginable..

>>60727983
They don't require XRP. They are improved in speed and cost using it. So everyone who uses any aspect of it is incentivized to use it with zero cost to doing so. The opposite is true for link, as already described granularly in the contract and mention of private or hybrid nodes, not to mention off book settlement for services. The entire build incentivizes circumventing the token itself from a security and cost standpoint. They are completely opposite. Sergay funds operations by selling tokens to people who will never benefit from them but don't understand the technology.

>>60728433
The nodes literally need the token with every single thing they do, they LITERALLY can’t work without it.
Ripple on the other hand has a whole suite of software (like Interledger) that explicitly does not require XRP to work.

You absolute turbojew.

>>60728044
checked. its literally onchain. go look at the contract

>>60728453
No, they LITERALLY don't. Reread my posts. Link does not need the token for private or hybrid nodes that are subsidized (as they usually are) let alone backend settlement off network which makes more sense in a cost and privacy/security standpoint and the contracts themselves are setup to not require link swaps/purchases. In no form is the link token needed in any major way that translates to CLL business leading to mass token usage and it incentivizes minimal token usage. The current revenues are LITERALLY on par with any random kebab stand in any random town. Interledger is not a part of the Ripple suite, it is a buildout based on Ripple's software that is optimized using Ripple's software that is wholly dependent from it as is its Foundation. You are wrong in LITERALLY every way on both projects.

>>60728455
Go ahead and tell me where in the comprehensively detailed process of >>60727593 it is "on chain (it isn't)." You are wilfully wrong/repressed.

>>60728275
everything will bottom out much higher than shitlink, brainlet

>>60728561
TNN in 2025, ladies and gents. What's next, shadowfork?

>>60723386
>inb4. Wife and kids
Why's this reddit comeback an own? Genuine question.

>>60728684
You have literally no argument so you are fallaciously deflecting. Why not just admit you were wrong (or at minimum are embarrassingly inadequately educated on your investment)? If the former, why continue to double down on something you know you are wrong on instead of repositioning? Is virtue signaling online on an anon forum about a specific project and the ego gush of pretending you believe you were actually right really worth not making it and missing one of the literal biggest moments of our lives that will likely be one of the handful that could dramatically improve your life? Why be like this, seriously, what is the reward? Do you consider this?

>>60727990
Why would he transition it when he has every incentive not to?

>>60728787
Because fuddies are 30+ and spend all their time and energy fudding Chainlink instead of getting a wife and kids. Pretty sad desu.

>>60723386
should have thought about that in 2020-2021 kiddo. now im comfy even before we moon

>>60728947
Dude, current year, TNN posting? It's just a bit dated you know. Maybe you are new?

>>60728947
Don't hold back anon. Call him a sophist! That'll show him.

>>60729347
>Pretty sad desu.
Ain't that the majority of 30+ year olds?
What about people shilling the token like it's an XRP thread?

>>60728947
What are you even talking about, link is required for the nodes to function, you can complain staking 1.0 will never release but that's all you have left. Meanwhile XRP literally isn't needed. Why are you like this, entering link threads trying to deceive people? Paid fud or bored shitposter who wants to gatekeep, I lean the latter.

>>60729568
>Ain't that the majority of 30+ year olds?
You think the majority of 30+ year olds spend their time fudding a rank #18 crypto currency on 4channel.org and twatter?

>>60728947
>y-you have no argument
No, I just understand that you're too stupid or mindbroken to admit that you're wrong just by the nonsense that you've been posting in a thread for an asset that you dont hold, and I have absolutely nothing to gain by wasting my time explaining something to you that has been explained countless times before. Like I said - you're still here, seething with 15pbtid now just proving my point.

If you can convince me that you're worth my time, I'll do something besides mock you as the lost and bitter xrpaypig tourist that you are.

>>60729347
44 here

>>60728787 see pic >>60728142
it makes fudcucks seethe.

>>60730233
CHECKED
BUT NOT REALLY, BROTHER. OLD AND STALE. GET SOME NEW MATERIAL

>>60725632
Touch grass chudcel

>>60729347
Kek like 95% of all link holders dont have wives or kids. Chainlink is the incel crypto for incels and schizophrenic Indians. Not even Sergey has a wife or kids, chris Barrett has no kids, rory the cuck has his wife's black son.
Coins like XRP are held by a bunch of normies, qanon boomers etc, those guys have wives and kids.
Chainlink is all toxic chud archetype incels who believe theyre smarter than everyone else

>>60729677
And the 30+ years olds who spend their time defending it online? Where are your wife and kids bro? sergeys not gonna fuck you nigga

>>60730158
Again, an entire paragraph gushing saying nothing. You pretend to "not want to waste time" despite spending more time typing emotional gush than I do typing real argument that proves you inarguably wrong. You are in a cult. You don't refuse to argue, you just can't argue my points, so you emotionally lash out in rhetoric. It is really weird.

>>60729638
No it isn't. OBJECTIVELY. Even if they use the software, they license private software (usually subsidized (by your token purchases lol)), or they settle on some backend agreement not using the token or they engage the contract but never choose the link token (because why would they when they have no incentive to?). Ripple and Interledger's products on the otherhand even if they do not majority use XRP as yet due to compliance and lack of legal clarity (Ripple are LITERALLY still in a lawsuit), at least incentivize its use such that once it is legally able to be used businesses would be leaving literally double digit percentages on the table to choose to not, in competition with those who choose to who are able to fully cannibalize their business until they choose to. This is not true for link. For contract specifics on how it ACTUALLY works (you are lying that they need to use it or more specifically parroting a lie told to you which you carved into your inner most essence like a prima facie axiom of reality and refuse to let go because you are in a cult), see:
>>60727593

>>60731254
>>60731267
And he's still here shitting out paragraphs and seething at link
It's the behavior of a cornered midwit
Absolutely pathetic kek

>>60731317
You're still here continuing to reply while saying nothing and acting like the reason you say nothing is because you can't be bothered to reply. So extremely low IQ and obviously desperate it is unreal. In what world do you think this lie is convincing? Why do you think your reply even means anything? What is gotten out of it? It is literally just this: You don't understand your own tech and instead of learning about it (in which case you would stop arguing for it) or admitting it, you get emotionally triggered. You are a low level regulation lacking person who is unable to be emotionally triggered without emotionally ejaculating so you do so. You also are deeply repressed and con job yourself that your nothing reply is potent and deep and will be received as such to offset the substance of what I said to those you imagine reading it so you feel like there is not an argumentative inequality or that you are not left exposed or something. You also want to cope by getting the last word because you can't win on argument and somehow you feel like getting me to stop replying or like getting the last word is substantial in some way despite the fact it is not. On a level you know that you are coping and wrong and need to to employ these rhetoric strategies, but choose to not let that matter to you. Really sad and pathetic

>>60728561
Cute post. Meanwhile, Ripple has no revenue, no adoption and secures nothing in defi after 11 years KEK

>>60731592
I've never seen a community getting destroyed in real time ever before
it's over for you, bagholder, even cripple shills seem sane and logical compared to (You)

>>60731592
They have no banks either kek
Meanwhile chainlink had Visa, Jp Morgan, and Mastercard just in the last few months.

No wonder fidgets are projecting so hard.

>>60731592
You literally have no argument.
>>60731609
Ripple has hundreds of payment providers and are used in several divisions by fucking SBI. Lol

>>60730236
>posts in all caps
>continues to spam link threads
>totally not seething "brother"
yep, seethe mode engaged

>>60731586
>>60731693
>STILL seething over link
>STILL posting paragraphs of retarded timewasting shit
I'll repeat myself again, since you seem to need it. If you weren't insecure and assblasted you wouldn't be here in the first place, hoping to feel better by screeching in a thread about an asset you don't hold or know anything about. 19pbtids over the course of 24 hours, no less - that's a lot of xrpaypig tears. Care to reply again and fill my glass? *sip*

>>60723386
You faggots can only sing one song. Being early isn't the same thing as being wrong, you greasy disingenuous jeetnigger.

>>60731760
You spend more time posting nothing than I spend writing substantive responses. Acting too cool to engage and like I am cringe for engaging and then engaging in a way that avoids substance but is nothing but deep sneeding and cope is not the W argument strategy.

>>60731722
NOT ME YOU DUMB FUCK
CHECKED, BROTHER

>>60732008
it quite literally is, you rabbi nigger kike

>>60732021
>still more seething and insisting that he's worth debating
>20pbtid proving my point now
Mmm delicious. Thank you xrpaypig.
Any more? Or are you going to scuttle off to your plebbit tourist containment thread to solve a riddle written by a qanon boomer lmfao.

>>60732103
More projection and mirroring and non-argument cope from you.

>>60732139
>m-muh mirroring projection cope etc
>p-pleebs debate me I'm worthy
*tops up my glass of tears again*
So thats 21pbtid now, obsessing and seething over link - truly impressive but probably not your highest score, I'd wager.
Methinks the xrpaypig doth protest too much in any case, kek.

>>60727869
how much did the ripple team dump on you baggies to pay for that USATODAY tweet shilling XRP to farm a bunch of boomers?

Meanwhile, on the same day, the head of DTCC DA is retweeting chainlink about CCIP and ACE.

>>60732231
I dumped two loads inside your mum last night

>>60732231
The CEO of SBI is retweeting Ripple stuff. What is your point? Your coin is still not needed even if their software is used.
>>60732194
Cope healthier

>>60732317
>you linkies are rent free in my head which is why I'm here but... c-cope h-healthier
Oh the irony.
*sip*

>>60732361
Literally proving my point in >>60731586

i am glad they switched up their marketing material. previously it was things or stacks of things getting bigger, arrows pointing at holders doing nothing etc., it was all very on the nose and cringe. but they stopped pandering to the people giving them money because they figured they will pay for it anyway, and they were correct

>>60732368
>p-please read my paragraph of cope
Nah. You freak out and piss / shit yourself in every link thread.
*sip*
Oh look. It's almost empty. Be a good lad and have it filled again before I wake up.

>>60732399
More of same. Iteratively see:
>>60732368

>>60732399

>Oh boy, 119 replies! Must be a juicy discussion.
I'll send 1 BTC to anyone who can help me leave this shitty board.

>>60732478
4chan.org/lgbt

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>>60732478
Sorry pal we’re all stuck with the paragraph spamming verbose midwit forever

>>60732516
How did you guess I was gay?

>>60732524
Superficial cope won't change the fact I am right and you can't respond to my argument and look pathetic.
>>60732525
What do you mean "guess?"

>>60732478
Check out hackforums, they have a crypto section where there's actually good info once in awhile. No rugpull shit and admin actually does his job.

This holy place is how I got into btc in 2012.

There's also another site that has people scouting info worthy stuff from biz. Made me a shit ton in 2020. Forgot what it was but if you donate to my Addy I'll find it for you.

Plz and thx anon.

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>>60732529
What is your point? Your only complaint is that
>LINK is not being automatically converted from WETH CCIP fees
and this somehow proves that XRP will be adopted by all institutions (although there are no signs of this), whereas DTCC and SWIFT are directly working with Chainlink?

26 posts by a deranged FUD cuck, good lord.
Torture and death can't come fast enough for these pilpul spewing faggots desu.

>>60732055
>posts in all caps
>continues to spam link threads
>totally not seething "brother"
you just did it again.
i hold link.

>>60723346 (OP)
>Chainlink is now a legal requirement
Bruh

Ty fuddies for keeping this thread going or I would have missed it

>>60725648
Ignore capslock niggers, roundhouse kick them into volcanoes etc

>>60727869
Oh nononono! The ripple cuck outs himself

>>60730593
We are tho.
T. Wife and kids haver

>>60731586
Nice wall of text faggot but I'm just not going to read it

>>60734435
Cope.
>>60734405
How is having an argument I never shirked from "outing myself?"
>>60732960
Literally not even remotely close to what I said and the extent of your exaggeration portrays the depth of your patheticness. My point is that the tok3n is not needed or used and there is no incentive to change this, CLL has a larger stranglehold on supply than they proclaimed, and will continue selling while you continue buying to subsidize their next headlines of "partnership" and price feed business which means nothing to tok3n holders. This means and has zero to do with XRP and I never justified use by institutions of XRP on these facts. All I said was that when probed about it, XRP is at least incentivized for use in Ripple's products and institutions, when legally availed to do so (presently happening) would be intentionally undercutting their own interests by not doing so to such an extent that fucking JP Morgan couldn't compete with a local community bank if they chose to not in international payment efficiencies, without subsidizing their payments business through other business/holdings to try to artificially buy their way out of needing to compete in hopes of driving them out of business, which works for a physical dollar store vs. a community grocer but not a banking software company, let alone if they become a software licensing bank themselves. Completely level playing field. However, that being said, ILP using XRP outperforms CCIP in cost and speed and efficiency while still being decentralized and offering atomic swaps, objectively. Technological superiority isn't always guarantee of victory in markets unfortunately, but it is a high confidence bet for institutions who want to be competitive (note I am not saying Chainlink Labs' business will go under, I am saying the lauded prospect for the token which does not even use the token and incentivizes against use of it will underperform and not deliver for tok3n holders even if it does for CLL).

>>60732960
Sorry the T word is flagged for spam by a tranny jannie who is butthurt at the TNN branding and does not want it to succeed despite there being no good argument against it. The DTCC/SWIFT pilots used LINK token in any way which combats or even challenges my argument. Actually, they specifically distinguished how they were trialing multiple private and public networks (Hyperledger, R3's Corda, AVAX (I think AVAX was included), etc.) for actual storage and settlement of value. CLL is subsidizing "partnerships" and trials to generate headlines to get you to buy the token which he is using to subsidize "partnerships" etc. It is a grift cycle of corporate welfare where you are milked and SirGay collects eth that will NEVER benefit you and sells a model of tokenomics that is not true and dumps on you with no buildout for future justifying it. Ripple were offered to have XRP be exclusively used by R3 (which Corda is still coded for it and for XDC and I am not sure if any other blockchain) and they turned them down because they wanted 5 billion XRP from Ripple's treasury when XRP was like 50 cents and they thought that was too much to justify giving R3. You are making the same arguments that everyone always makes that have literally no depth below the headline and do nothing to respond to my criticism. The argument is not that CLL will not generate business, it is that you are a corporate welfare donator and there is no value prospect on the horizon for being one for you..

>>60735554

>>60735531
>>60735554
So your headcanon is that a 10B mcap company is bribing the worlds largest financial institutions to adopt their technology and pocketing all of the fees, forever? Strange that Ripple couldn’t manage that.
Assuming that CCIP becomes the global standard for cross chain transactions (likely), your argument hinges on the assumption that all institutions will happily pay a 10% premium not to use the LINK token and instead pay in L1 gas, and that these tokens will never be converted into LINK on the open market. Good luck!

>>60735626
>bribing the worlds largest financial institutions to perform meaningless trials for advertising purposes
ftfy

>>60735626
Why do you keep strawmannning me? Don't you realize how retarded and obviously knowing that you are lying this demonstrates you to be? I literally gave an example of Ripple turning down doing so with R3. Ripple partnering with SWIFT would be like digital messaging services partnering with the largest fax machine software company in the world. They are an insurgent technology there to replace shitty systems. CCIP does not even use link to settle transations. It becoming the global standard is not likely and it doesn't become likely just because you say it. I made no assumption of a 10% premium, I actually argued they would use private software subsidized by Chainlink, largely through token sales which they have 65% control over the float wrt to you. There is no 10% premium in any part of the process for them to not use link across any step of the contract. You are LITERALLY wrong about every single part of your substantive assumption and misrepresentative of every single part of my argument, in a way that seems like a mix of intentionality and genuinely not being able to understand it.

>>60735658
you got smoked

>>60735663
You guys are fucking DESPERATE. You have ZERO argument and literally don't even care that you know you are wrong. You just want to say a bunch of nothing, and synthesize feeling within yourself to continue repressing and believing what you know to be false. Reality doesn't change just because you refuse to accept it and around you it will take shape. Would you SERIOUSLY choose to not make it and miss the web 3 dotcom opportunity, JUST to signal consensus with a coin culture now and feel egoistically vindicated? So insanely weird. Wtf is wrong with you?

>>60735658
Please refer to https://docs.chain.link/ccip/billing#network-fee-table

>>60735626
Further, as mentioned about 30 times, CLL acts in the interest of CLL. I have said over and over and over that they can be successful as a company and that their software products can be used. That does not mean ANYTHING to token holders. Go ahead and look up what percentage of node operations are subsidized by Chainlink Labs. Lol

>>60735626
chainlink’s original pie chart (1b link minted back in ’17) was **35%** earmarked for node incentives, **35%** dumped into the ico, and **30%** retained by smartcontract/chainlink labs for “development.” fast‑forward—those node‑incentive tokens never left a multisig ultimately steered by cl labs. on‑chain sleuths have watched the same wallets dribble link to cexes whenever payroll + marketing burns get spicy. functionally, that means the lab can tap **65%** of the float whenever they feel “strategic,” because the node war‑chest still sits under their thumb. yes, that’s commingling in everything but name.

why the subterfuge? because economics: node ops still bleed money. feeds pay out peanuts (single‑digit bips per tx) and off‑chain reporting slashed hardware costs but not to zero. after six years, only the giga‑nodes (ppllike chainlink‑automation, chainlayer, figment, etc.) keep lights on, and they do it with otc link stipends from the mother‑ship. the long tail either volunteers or runs at a loss waiting for “hyper‑scale” that, idk, keeps getting punted to next quarter with staking v0.2 narratives.

meanwhile cl labs sprouted to \~700 heads bc they’re a quasi‑saas shop now—ccip, data streams, tx abstraction, the whole modular‑rollup buffet. growth curve looks vc‑style, but the revenue curve? shrug emoji. so tokens = op‑ex. when the treasury address cold‑swaps 5‑10m link to kraken every month, that’s salaries + cloud bills, not altruistic node farming.

* the 35% “node reserve” was never truly ring‑fenced; it’s dev treasury part2.
* node operators aren’t self‑sustaining and probably won’t be until fees eclipse chainlink’s own subsidies—no line‑of‑sight rn.
* cl labs disclosures are minimal on purpose; admitting the above torpedoes the “decentralized oracle network” ethos.

follow 0x514910771af9ca656af840dff83e8264ecf986ca to binance hot wallets-all public.

>>60735685
What does this have to do with off-network settlement with private software arrangements when CLL subsidizes the majority of node operations and gives no deeper utility (i.e. staking rewards, fee sharing) nor reduces friction (native gas abstraction for LINK), etc. sufficient to incentivizing native direct usage, let alone when we consider broader applications of similar software solutions that can settle more transactions faster for less than a penny and are micropayment and atomic swap capable with a built in dex and automated market maker? Lol

>>60735734
I'm glad for posters like these, desu. 33 posts panicking over link and desperately trying to cope because he bagholds one of the many scammy projects that link minimizes.
Just a sign of the times - I only wonder if he'll kill himself post singularity, or persist in mind-shattered whinging on here like a ghost in denial.
>>60735626
Ccip being the standard isn't even just likely. It's engraved in stone at this point. None of the designs being put forward by swift, dtcc, etc work without link. And that's just one aspect of how successful they have been in building themselves into the foundation of crypto being adopted going forward. It's kind of mindblowing how far ahead of the game they have been since the start.

>>60736298
LINK has always been two cycles ahead of the rest of crypto (except in price kek)

>>60736298
it's truly insane how you keep ignoring all of his arguments and you simply dismiss his posts, and THEN you constantly proclaim you've won
I've never seen such desperation from baggies before, it's about to implode isn't it?

>>60736760
hes using outdated information. link payment abstraction layer is passing audits or has already just need to be implemented idk i havent checked. Hes a xrp cuck

>>60735668
>”You guys are fucking DESPERATE”
t. 33 long ass seetheposts projecting all of Ripple’s faults onto Link

>>60736863
>i-i-it's all projection!1
keep coping, faggot

>>60736760
>>60736883
33 posts with your other ID aren’t enough?
Crippletits truly are completely mindbroken over link.

>>60736935
>y-y-you're a samefag
kek, you REEK of desperation, baggie

>>60736946
You’re so mindbroken LOL. Link will go to $81,000 a token and you will cope, seethe and dial 8

>>60737003
LINK will go to $3 per token and you will probably rope

>>60737103
based. linkies need a good kick in the balls now and again

>>60725781
>duuuuuude h h hehh that was heckin based

weekly reminder anyone still using based is an edgy redditor


>>60725524
>duuuuuuuude just assume
>if

yeah that's now how it works


>>60725568
>So how come price no up go?

because those numbers aren't real
obviously

>>60737116
ADEEMMMMMM KAYSERRRR THE SUCCESS FACTORY

>>60728044
>just makes this all the sweeter.
you aren't making any money tho


>>60728453
bro your argument got completely undressed

that dude took you to school

>>60731600
>I've never seen a community getting destroyed in real time ever before
>it's over for you, bagholder, even cripple shills seem sane and logical compared to (You)

lol this thread is great

link staking completely dismantled

>>60736935
>>60736863
Link (19th highest crypto) in % gained:
> +1% today
> -9% week
> +26% month
> +17% 3 months
> +42% year
> +102% 5 years

XRP (3rd highest crypto) in % gained:
> +1% today
> -3% week
> +36% month
> +38% 3 months
> +446% year
> +956% 5 years

Look as far as making money goes, alot of link holders could have dumped their entire stack a year ago, swapped into XRP, and would have already 'made it'. No more need to wait the "fundamentals" or the "utility" to kick in, you could've been out of the game and retired already. Don't marry your bags.

>>60737116
>>60737148
And here’s the 33 pbtid cripplet samefagging some more.

Insane to think all that fudspam was coming from the ripplefags all along.

>>60736298
>I'm glad for posters like these

the feigned smug act has been pretty transparent for some time now

you don't have to keep doing that dog, save your energy

>>60736760
>it's truly insane how you keep ignoring all of his arguments and you simply dismiss his posts, and THEN you constantly proclaim you've won


crazy isn't it
it's like they all went to a link training course about how to sell the fake arrogance act

link cultists are in a competition with each other over who can virtue signal the most about losing money
they've turned it into a badge of honor

there's a reason that the boyscouts are widely known as....

THE Cuckolds of crypto

>>60737182
>duuuuuuuuuuuuude everyone is the same person!!!!

i see our resident sleuth is on duty today

check these prices out kid: >>60737156

you enjoy those losses? bahahhahaa

>>60737197
You stand out a lot.
You spam, seethe, and agree with yourself a lot.
We’ve had years of practice identifying you.

>>60737297
Man you wouldn't be in here arguing with randoms if you weren't married to your bags. Almost everything has out preformed link. If we look back on 5year charts, even SOL the shitcoin casino is up almost 10,000%, over links 100%.

>>60737297
>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude when my dead altcoin runs i'll be HECKIN dangerous

the classic keyboard toughguy
a dying relic
very fitting

>>60737393
You do spam, seethe and agree with yourself a lot though.

>>60737368
nice argument, do a flip faggot.

>>60737116
>>60737148
>>60737186
>>60737197
>>60737393
>g-guys guys you HAVE to debate us
>o-our retarded and effeminate 24/7 fulltime ESL fud spam has been shut down a million times and institutions suck link's dick daily but you HAVE to waste energy on brownoid trash like us PLEASE

Nah
Where are your wife and kids, Adem Kayser? What did you mean by "peeling back the layers" of your "porn identity?" Or should we message Bram and Edem again and see if they might be able to find out for us? Fuckin subhuman lmao

>>60738354
>Or should we message Bram and Edem again and see if they might be able to find out for us?
What's this all about? The lore is deep man.

>>60738393
Not too deep. Those are relatives. Could be good to ask his friends on fb to help as well though - you know, it takes a village to help a porn addict overcome his pathetic and crippling habit... sometimes you can even see a direct correlation between him spending multi hour tantrums on here and reminding people in his life that he's obsessed with watching other men fuck women. His hubris really was his downfall.

>>60738354
Dont give them (you)’s its how they get paid

>>60738419
I just feel bad about Adem he suffers like the rest of us. I wish we all made it financially and mentally.

>>60738089
It's not argument. It's just factual. You could have had almost a 10,000% gain on SOL, almost 1000% gain on BTC or XRP, 900% on ETH, even +6000% on DOGE, all in the same time frame. Stop marrying your bags. The point is to make money, not fangirl so hard you chimpout defending some shitcoins like a retard.

>>60738551
Nah
He isn't even an OG, he's third world garbage that gets paid pennies to try and shit up and derail anything relating to link on here. He also used to say much nastier things and tried to act like a tough guy before he was doxxed as well. It's just karma.

>>60738557
Did you actually not understand the image he posted? JFC the IQ of fuddies is lower than link's price, embarrassing.

>>60738650
Yes, and it's hardly fud. Just facts. Most of you have made a very subpar ROI from being fangirls and marrying your bags.

https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1952380333195764025

>>60738747
>DATA STREAMS
>Literally one of our core points
Lol
>>60737182
>>60736935
I am still on original ID. Cope with having zero answer to any of the FACTS presented.
>>60736863
>>60736298
Cope with having zero answer to any of the facts presented.
>>60738449
Cope with having zero answer to any of the facts presented.
>>60738354
Cope with having zero answer to any of the facts presented.
>>60738089
Cope with having zero answer to any of the...

>>60738697
You actually don't understand the point do you? Are you unironically Indian? This is hilarious.

>>60738924
Bunch of sophists, the lot of them. Fallaciously deflecting and what not. Good thing you're here to correct the record anon. Hopefully they all buy XRP soon.

>>60727090
>so why would anybody (they won't)?

So you dont want an honest answer to your question you just want to fling shit at the wall like a retard. How about shutting the goddam motherfuck up?

big repost

>>60738924
Like get a load of this brain-damaged shitbag, seriously
He has been shut down at least 3-4 times in this thread but keeps spamming the same points over and over again, like a bot or a cornered jew.
Meanwhile
>>60739088
Is what is actually happening.

I'm looking forward to these fulltime fudcucks being hunted. It'll be well deserved and satisfying to witness.