No one can afford a home, no one can afford anything while the top 1% own everything

thats not capitalism though. homes are hard to build now because of zoning, environmental reviews, NIMBYism, higher building compliance costs, etc. etc. Politics essentially.
this is a supply-side problem, but supply-siders can't do anything about it. you try to build a house affordably and they'll throw you in jail. The red tape has to be cut, the homeowner mafia need to be gelded and sent packing. its the only way to unleash building so we can have enough houses for everyone.

>>60740923 (OP)
This has nothing to do with Capitalism and more to do with international Jewry deliberately destroying Western Civilization.

>>60740935
yea why cant i build a poisonous shack with no oversight?

>>60740923 (OP)
Wow, mean really need to step up!

>>60740923 (OP)
>no source provided.

High home ownership in the 50's from the G.I. Bill. Capitalism has failed, and so has ending socialism.

>>60740949
Why would you build it out of poison retard?

I'm 30 and 5'8 incel who's had sex twice in his entire life with the same woman. I can't imagine folding and getting married with a woman with a triple digit body count now. It's either get so rich and famous I can fuck early 20's sluts on the regular or eternal monk mode

>>60741014
god thats pathetic. i love coming here. its always a huge morale boost.
its unreal how well i am doing even with my problems.

>>60740923 (OP)
This "statistic" was made by to distract you from the fact that homeownership in the us has barely changed while marrage rates have gone down a lot.
Deceit is lying, and lying is a sin, so you christcucks are sinning in attempt to further your agenda. It brings me great joy to know you are going to burn in the hell you believe in.

>>60740935
>enough houses for everyone
Why the fuck do there need to be more houses? Why are there more people? What the fuck.

>>60740935
Also, I renovated one recently, as a side gig. I also worked as an automotive engineer decades ago. Assembly in housing is completely retarded. If it would be done like automotive production, a house would cost $100k instead of $800k, and it would actually work, not have mold everywhere.

Marriage statistics are meaningless these days. A lot of committed couples never get married because they're irreligious and see marriage as a religious institution. My sister and her partner are not married despite being together for about 10 years and having a 5 year old kid.

>>60740923 (OP)
im 27, married with 2 kids. home paid off. make 250k TC, 400K total HHI. this is just a skill issue, its so easy to make money in this economy. that is unless you are sub 100 IQ lmao

>>60740923 (OP)
muh "capitalism". America has only progressively become less capitalist since the 19th century, and more JEWISH. Kike control of central banking, government, and corporations all complicit in robbing the goyim. And they use their media to train useful idiots into blaming "capitalism" for it. *hand rubbing* yes yes goy you need to fight capitalism goy, more taxes, more government spending, more debt, that will fix everything goy.

>>60740923 (OP)
US home sizes have vastly increased in average size since the 50s though. Controlling for size the price rise is minimal.

>>60740935
All that shit is byproducts of capitalist society in decline.

I won't really give a fuck when zoomies burn it all down, at least I'll have a comfy commieblock at the end of the day.

>>60740923 (OP)
At some point the sheeple need to realize the problem isn't "houses too expensives" or "not enough houses", but "too many people"

>>60741254
we can build more houses; or we can enact a lottery where half the people are killed. which one do you think will have more support in a democracy?
there sre enormous tracts of land the federal govt owns that are never used. most people drive past these on highways. theres a reason nothing gets built there. its illegal.
opening up unused shithole grasslands for new town development is the first step to solving the housing crisis.

Im 30 and me and wife live with our grandparents

>>60740923 (OP)
this and most other things associated with the fall in quality of life, are caused by the end of the gold standard.

>>60740923 (OP)
yes it has, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a useful goy.

>>60741525
Exactly. Honest money curtails most of the dishonest men. Fake money allows for massive manipulation.

>>60741180
this is a 60 - 80 IQ reasoning. the vast majority of the cost of a house is in the land. the cost difference in raw materials and labor between 1400 square feet and 2000 square feet is minimal.

>>60741515
declining population wont fix shit. if you want prices to come down you need to slash credit availability. consider that my rural flyover town has seen a population decrease EVERY YEAR for the past FIFTY YEARS (as well as a decline in the number of livable wage jobs) while the market value of homes goes up EVERY YEAR for the past FIFTY YEARS.

it's the same phenomena that has driven up car prices: you give 60 IQ subhuman normalshits access to massive amounts of credit and they IMMEDIATELY use it to bid up the price of assets.

>>60741525
printing money + low iq immigrants = disaster

>>60740923 (OP)
Maybe we should allow another twenty million illegals into this country to undercut low skill entry level jobs away from our own young adults just starting their lives and increase the overall cost of living by raising the minimum wage to $30. Let's increase the cost of building materials to construct new homes and create more zoning laws and environmental protections, restricting developers and independent contractors. Let's allow gigantic financial institutions like Black Rock to buy up millions of acres and properties, out bidding potential young families a hundred thousand over asking price so that no one will be able to own a home. That'll sure fix the economy and housing market!

Nothing to do with capitalism as much as it is greed and corruption by Democrats gaming the system to undercut and squeeze out everyone who isn't already a nepo-baby multi-millionair or a third-world beaner who is already used to living in a cramped 500sqft apartment with a dozen other illegals

>>60741570
Actual retard dribble.
> "construction costs don't matter in house prices and i insert scalextric cars into my ass"

Anyone can own it in west Virginia

>>60740923 (OP)
no you're just a loser

>>60741760
the word is "drivel" you mouth breathing extra-chromosomal mongoloid fuck.

>>60740949
>Your ancestors die in gruesome wars so you could be free to do whatever your heart desires.
>Celebrate a government that regulates anything you do.
>Demand MORE oversight.

>>60741149
>im 27, married with 2 kids. home paid off. make 250k TC, 400K total HH
Literally how? What does your spouse do?

>>60740923 (OP)
no, liberalism and globalism have

>>60740923 (OP)
That’s still 1 zoomer out of 10 that’s bullshit. More like 1%

>>60740923 (OP)
so this is ey?
everybody's poor and instead of freedom we are slaves to the ultra-rich and have to wageslave till we are sent to the soilent green factory. i know it's rude to ask but why? where did it all go so wrong?

>>60742563
70% of under 30 year olds are incels without a hope for a normal life. that's not just a few losers - that's an emergency.

>>60740923 (OP)
This is just the start.

There is nothing better than capitalism, and the orangutan is doing everything he can to make those numbers even worse.
GL zoomers.

>>60741018
you are still a loser and a faggot.

>>60741149
being jewish nepo nigger doesn't count.

>>60740935

Id rather deport 200 million people

>>60740935
>>60740936
>>60741166
capitalism is Jewish at it's core

anybody lolbertarian that copes with "not real Crapitalism!!!1!!" sounds like communists coping about Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot's version of communism

>>60742736
He is 27 married with two kids. His wife is post wall. He already lost. Don’t worry.

>unremarkable anon
>5 figure salary
>own a house
>driving a paid off car
>travel abroad every other year
>eat out frequently
>enough disposable income for hobbies and toys

You don't have to be in the 1% to live comfortably - you just need to not suck at money.

>>60742773
The difference is capitalism worked just fine for decades until the Hart-Celler act of 1965, which spread all over the world in the decades after. Everybody had to adopt it to stay competitive.

>>60742795
>capitalism worked just fine for decades
max iq to believe this?

>>60742702
70% of high school kids are incels.
70% of university kids are incels.
The ONLY reason these “incels” end up “not incels” is because girls in their age group saw the wall and marry/date then.
70% of men will always be incels or betamale provider cuck husband which is the same thing.

Why is home ownership the goal here? Plywood boxes are not good investment in a world with declining birth rates.

>>60742702
70% of high school kids are incels.
70% of university kids are incels.
The ONLY reason these “incels” end up “not incels” is because girls in their age group saw the wall and marry/date then.
70% of men will always be incels or betamale provider cuck husband which is the same thing.
However, many young males over age 25 being single affects girls because this means all these chicks will be single and pathetic and girls NEED a husband or they end up post wall alone.

>>60742702
Okay, ignore the double post. Browser issue
70% of men are loser incels and having a gf/wife because women are forced to date/marry them when they wall doesnt change that.
70% of men are still loser cucks regardless how wife, kids or money.

>>60742823
Location location location.
>home ownership
that is brokie cope.

>>60742823
paying for taxes, insurance, and maintenance suck but it's infinitely better than having a jew landlord who raises your rent 10% a year or having to cope and moving literally all of your belongings to another jew landlord's apartment with "lower" rent (for the next year.) also things like sharing walls/ceilings with other people suck and raising children in an apartment should be considered child abuse.

>>60740935
>Not real capitalism
You belong in a death camp.

>>60741005

Home ownership will be the carrot they dangle in front of Zoomers to go be drone fodder in WWIII which will be a series of retarded proxy wars in shitholes no one cares about (Indonesia, Taiwan, Brazil, Estonia & Greece).

Screencap this I'm a glowie.

>>60742760
Who would you deport?

>>60742795
Everything "works fine" until it doesn't. "Capitalism" is by its nature self destructive because no caps on personal wealth means that inevitably the capitalists will use their wealth to purchase politicians, and once they achieve control of the political process, they will put measures in place to stifle their competition, becoming "anti capitalist". There is a reason why anti capitalism is always pushed by the top 0.001%.
Think about it, once you achieve wealth through the free market, why would you allow the free market to remain in place and let others compete with you? You don't. You kick the ladder that brought you to the top.
Capitalism is not a viable long term system for the same reason communism isn't, because for it to exist it requires that people go against human nature.

>>60741115
Because capitalists want 3rd world immigration to lower wages and break national identity.

>>60740923 (OP)
Housing costs like that are how socialists are born.

>>60740935
>that wasn't real capitalism!

>>60742795
>>60742795
Capitalism basically imploded in 1929 and before then it was reviled system with several parts of industrial world constantly on the brink of civil war over issues directly tied to employer-employee disputes with many instances of it actually going hot and resulting in new governments forming. The only period of capitalism that can be described as being 'fine' is the post-war period which only happened after the new post-capitalist economic systems fought in a global battle royale and that period only pasted about 20-30 years. Even communism had an okay time then which shows how little it had to do with the system themselves but rather various circumstances neither systems could control.

>>60740923 (OP)
it's a myth that housing is overpriced to begin with, it is exactly where it is expected to be based on money supply inflation
unfortunately goycattle do not understand inflation

>>60740923 (OP)
“Capitalism” has been slowly destroyed by bailouts, regulation, and government interference in the economy and country for like 100 years at this point

The problem isn't capitalism itself, but the context. Currency, and with it capitalism and market economies, developed and matured in city-states. Capitalism can be an engine for productivity and import-replacement in individual city economies with their own currency.
Compare ancient Greece, the Indus Valley, Mesopotamia, or renaissance Italy compared to how they've done as national economies.

>>60741515
We dont need to kill anybody. Do you know just how many non-citizens currently reside in the US? Its more than any of the numbers you’ll see on television. Just removing that portion opens up millions of homes/units.

>>60741552
I genuinely never expected Kazakhstan to be #1 in ANYTHING but goat fucking

>>60743780
i met a woman from kazakhstan and she was beautiful. on average i think their women are very good looking.

>>60743288
But what third position? I can see the faults in every system that is operating, yet I see no clear answer as to how can we organize humanity's resource management at scale. Every road leads to some kind of totalitarian technological solution (even with modern information technology, central planning is as doomed to fail as it was under Mao) and power either pooling in the government or under megacorps that gain steamroll power in late-game and control the government. I will go so far as to say a possible solution may involve a totalitarian state of some sort, but how would it be implemented in such a way to preserve/maximize human freedom/comfort/growth? Even the success metrics are arguable, some view technological progress and scaling us to live in megacity pods as progress, perhaps with some solarpunk slant, and other scenarios have us reduce population and decentralize while maintaining our technology. My gut is something about decentralized power systems that allow for market forces to work out distribution issues while preventing power-snowballs and ensuring the market does not reward things that work against humanity (ie, using corn syrup because it is cheaper when there are cascading effects, marketing that negatively changes dietary practices) but you can't have a powerless system that doesn't get swallowed up by larger power systems.

>>60743817
What economic system outlawed usury, put social development and widespread welfare above profits, promoted healthy families, environmental protections, animal welfare, defended the right for self defense and gun ownership? Just think about who communists and capitalists joined forces to defeat and who the who the depraved people in charge of the world right now unanimously hate?

>>60744067
>What economic system outlawed usury, put social development and widespread welfare above profits, promoted healthy families, environmental protections, animal welfare, defended the right for self defense and gun ownership?
Sounds like christian feudalism with modern characteristics.

>>60741149
>I got mine, thus the system is fine

Apologists for the Jewish globoho also get the rope

>>60740923 (OP)
I still have no sympathy for young generations struggling with money. Boomers may have had better luck with houses, but they didn't have wifi, or electronic devices in every square inch of their house, or 10 streaming services, blow their whole paycheck on sports betting, or a car with electric windows and locks or phone service in their pocket and they wouldn't spend 1300 dollars a year on new phones.

The young generation somehow has no money to live yet they keep making sure to buy that iphone every year and starbucks every day. I don't know how many young roommates I've had in my life that DON'T EVEN HAVE FOOD IN THE FRIDGE. They pick up breakfast on their way to work, eat lunch at the cafeteria, and pick up food on the way home. Door dash on the weekends as a treat to themselves.
I try to convince them to invest because they have 40 years of potential compound interest but they say "NAH THAT'S LIKE GAMBLING OR SOMETHING, WHAT IF I LOSE ALL MY MONEY? I NEED TO BUY SIDNEY SWEENEY'S BATHWATER INSTEAD! THEN I NEED TO BUY COSMETIC MICROTRANSACTIONS FOR MY VIRTUAL ANIME GIRLS! AND I NEED TO DONATE TO GOFUNDME FOR THAT WOMAN THAT CALLED THE BOY THE N WORD, AND THE N WORD THAT KILLED A KID!"

>>60744067
Under that system you praise I would be required to work a job until I am physically unable and wouldn't be able to NEET on welfare.

>>60740936
i dont really care how """people""" under 30 are doing

>>60744747
Looks like it's never going under 50% white at that rate.
The great replacement has failed. Whites are too numerous.

>>60741018
That just means life hasn't yet given you the fist fucking it eventually gives everyone.

"Capitalism" was a term literally invented by collectivists (specifically the FRENCH SOCIALIST Louis Blanc) so they could define what had been the status quo for thouands of years of people freely exchanging goods and services, as an oppositional system to their utopian systems.
Anyone who is not advocating a system in which you can own your own property, control your own money, and freely disperse your resources as you see fit must be killed immediately when you encounter them, because they have the same plans for you only they do it slowly.

unironically harder to find a good wife then a good home

>>60744956
Obviously Homes are available for sale everywhere the only question being price.. There's a market. There's generally reliable paid assistants who have openly measurable track records and licencing.. Houses arent' perishable, and their history is easily and independently trackable. There's no waifu equivalent of a title search. No lemon laws. No third party contractors to easily fix problems or deficiencies.

>>60740923 (OP)
>CAPITALISM IS WHEN THE GOVERNMENT DOES STUFF
You manipulative leftists shouldn't be allowed to vote.

>>60741224
>I want to live in poverty in a tiny pod with paper thin walls
Bootlicker

>>60741552
Imagine being so brainwashed you think home ownership is the way out of poverty.
A rentoid in USA is wealthier than people in those shitholes.
Also 65% of Americans own their own home.

>>60743288
Natsoc is literally just socialism. There is nothing fundamentally different about it, you zoomer snowflake

>>60740923 (OP)
Is importing 50 billion third worlders a tenet of capitalism? If so then yes

>>60741552
I had to get to 17th on the list before I found a country I might tolerate living in

>>60744067
>environmental protections
Yeah they prioritized the environment over human well being.
You people are bootlicking treehugging faggots that deserve to be locked up.

>>60740923 (OP)
you deserve it for allowing corporations to own homes

>>60740935
>This. Let the young build new cities bring back the homestead act (of course fitting with modern jobs and housing)
Our great grandparent's spent money buying land and then built everything by hand and paid next to nothing. Our grandparents bought pre made mobile and manufactured homes that were assembled for them and costed more. Today most houses need an engineer, ecologist, zoning manager, HOA, architect and an entire team of construction workers with decades of experience to live with a roof over our heads.

It's compiled by the fact that the houses on the market are being gobbled up and resold at a 20 times markup. Check assessed value vs market value. Million dollar homes are reported for taxes as 100 thousand.

Supply drives demand. More open houses with families inside, the less it cost to make a house. It's that simple.

>>60740949
>why cant i build a poisonous shack with no oversight?
The US has already done this. If you were retarded you lived in a tin shack or the back of a van. Those who bought the materials and worked with their community and family survived. That's why you needed 15 children, for labor.

>>60740955
It ends up being a cyclical issue, people cannot rase a family without a home. The only way kids can buy houses are to get into massive amounts of lifelong debt or build a generational home with their parents.

>>60741032
got a source?

>>60741119
Congratulations, you reinvented manufactured homes. Folk's will call you guys the "pod makers" despite the fact you can make a perfectly good 3 bed 2 bath home for $47,000.

>>60745125
There was no state monopoly nor the internationalism of marxist socialism. It was a system elevate the people, not to oppress it.

>>60745133
>Yeah they prioritized the environment over human well being.
They went out of their way make the autobahns go through beautiful places to inspire the drivers. Worker housing projects had minimum standards such front and backyard yards and space for a family of at least 4 children. Known carcinogens were strictly forbidden for consumer products, some of which weren't banned in the US until the 80's. They enacted laws banning freak shows on circus and displaying crippled or deformed people as attractions for being offenses against human dignity.
They cared about the well being of the people more than other any government before or after.

>>60740923 (OP)
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>>60740949
yeah must be capitalism

>>60740923 (OP)
>Has capitalism failed?
It was betrayed by fiat banking.

>>60745660

This. I distinguish between good capitalism (wealth creation) and toxic capitalism (wealth transfer).

>>60741018
>no house but had sex with TWO women
Whoa congrations for you, loser.

>>60746168
That's how China does it. Industrial capitalism is productive and therefore allowed. Finance capitalism is unproductive and parasitic, and therefore not tolerated. Xiaoping started treating capitalism this way, as what he called a "caged bird".

The system was still young back then, people who are good at capitalism already snatched up all the properties and were smart enough to lobby politicians to keep housing prices from falling, so if you are born into a family full of dumbshits that never bought property or assets to pass on you’re truly fucked

>>60740923 (OP)
Finances were never a problem like people prefer to bitch about. It’s the culture and modes of socialization.

>>60746168
>>60746312

>>60740923 (OP)
100% yes

>>60740923 (OP)
No, it became corporatism under extreme marketing

>>60745122
>Imagine being so brainwashed you think home ownership is the way out of poverty.
what's the single greatest recurring cost that the average american faces? rent.
also go look up net worth vs renters vs homeowners and back out home equity. homeowners are much more wealthy.

It didn't happen.
They deserved it.
It's going to happen again.

>>60740923 (OP)
capitalism wasn't working correctly when everyone could own a home and be married at 30

>"capitalist society"
>central bank controls interest rates
>keep them artificially low for decades
>loans become cheap, borrowing becomes cheap
>they stay that way for decades
>house prices skyrocket for decades
>everyone blames immigrants and billionaires

>>60740923 (OP)
Rich people are still rich and getting richer, capitalism has succeeded.

>>60744903
It took too long to get the real answer and its gone criminally ignored by the eternal midwits in this thread
I cannot wait for summer to end

>tell Europeans and Americans that overpopulation is coming and you're gonna end up like the teeming hordes if you don't stop having babies after ww2
>"Europe is empty. We need to import the teeming hordes. Because of your negligence to our economy."

It's that insanely evil. They made up a scary thing and their "aolution" is the scary thing you were supposed to be trying to avoid.
African, Asian, and Arab immigration is never going to happen again when this is all over.

>>60741581
This guy is onto something.

>>60740923 (OP)
White people are just lazy and think they're special so they wait for "the right one"

>>60743262
>Human nature is a problem
>therefore we must treat the system that pulled nearly everyone out of poverty, invented everything, and created the modern world as equal to the one that literally starved and slaughtered entire populations, eradicated all cultural, technological, and economic progress, and collapsed every nation it was implemented in by psychotic violent tyrants

You think you're smart, but you're not.

>>60745125
>kike-worshipping boomer retard regurgitates public school propaganda
kek, go to bed idiot

>>60741138
>Marriage statistics are meaningless these days
always been