'Debt crisis!', 'Liquidity crunch!', 'Recession!', 'Inflation is coming back!', 'Tariffs will cause a disaster!', 'Nato will enter Ukraine!', on and on.
Normally it was only Schiff fudding the shit out of everybody but now this stuff is everywhere.
Wtf is going on?

>>60758679 (OP)
Have you ever driven a car down a steep hill when the brakes fail? But you just hold on and try to keep from steering off the sides but gravity keeps pulling you making you go faster, and the faster you go the less control you have over the car. So you just keep going faster and faster and everything is starting to shake and it's getting harder and harder to keep from veering off the road.

That's the U.S. economy right now, and the U.S. economy has it's dick firmly planted in the ass of the entire world's economy so when we crash everyone crashes.

>>60758699
>and the U.S. economy has it's dick firmly planted in the ass of the entire world's economy
kek

>>60758699
I was thinking on the Eu. If one country defaults then the euro goes to shit.

Because it is coming.
The vast majority of people have absolutely 0 idea how money works, and because of this, they are oblivious to the absolute shithole central banks and governments are currently in.

- To help you understand, the government currently spends 122% of what it makes.
- The government spends money on social security, medicare/medicaid, defense, and interest on the national debt.

This does not take into account any spending the government does when politicians sign party bills into law.

The last time a credit bubble this insane happened, a Great Depression happened, and the president had to outlaw gold and fix the dollar's value to it.

Let me repeat - the last time a credit bubble this insane happened, the president had to literally steal his entire population's gold.

Today that cannot happen, so the government has to either -

- Print more money (kick can down road, ultimately leading to hyperinflation)
- Default on the debt (lol)
- Completely redefine the currency and fix it to a hard asset at an extremely high price.

Because the US economy is basically the world economy, the world is completely even MORE fucked with every option the US does.

Fiscal dominance is really fucking bad.

>>60758737
So what do you do if you want your savings to survive this?

>>60758699
>everyone crashes
This isn't really how economies work, beyond things like disease or natural disasters which halt productivity, when something crashes and it goes down, something else has to be going up relative to it.
So if every economy in the entire world crashes, the question is what goes up?
USD? Hell no, they print trillions. Maybe other currencies relative to USD will go up? Everyone prints a fuckton of money, so nowhere is safe in fiat land.
Gold? Maybe, a lot of its value is speculative but it's seen as a safe and stable asset.
Commodities? Maybe, historically people have lost money on commodities, mass industrialization has made everything cheap to make and the price tends to go down over time. Why would an upset to the world economy result in worse production of commodities?
BTC/Crypto? Maybe, it's still considered a high risk asset though and it's highly speculative, and usually the first to be sold off during instability. Will it always be the first to sell off though? Remains to be seen.

>>60758782
Let me tell you what's going to happen.

Every since the 2008 financial crisis, central banks and governments have decided that they are going to simply print more base money into existence whenever they reach a debt wall.

- Governments will never abandon fiat currency, because it gives them unlimited control over an ignorant population.
- So - because the vast majority of people have no idea whats going on, they can print more money and essentially steal from their population to fund itself.

So - if you want to protect yourself -

You have GOT, and I mean, you MUST abandon holding cash in any form whatsoever.
Get out of savings accounts, bonds, treasuries, paper cash - any kind of federal reserve note.

You HAVE to buy hard assets that the government cannot print.

- Gold
- Silver
- BTC
- High quality real estate

And Index Funds can work too.
It is also very important to understand when government debt is issued and when it is due.

Bull markets and bear markets are government DEBT REFINANCING cycles - not natural business cycles.

Thank John Maynard Keynes and MMT for this hellscape we live in.

>>60758699
And imagine everyone else in the car panicking while only a retard would say
>yeah no they are overreacting I'm not bracing for impact

>>60758818
Some of this is right but you can blame Mayer Rothschild and his lineage for where we are now. Governments do not control money printing. The moneychangers are the Rotshchild tribe and the central banking cartels across the globe. The absolute BEST thing you can do is buy and hodl bitcoin.

>>60758867
While I understand WHY people lean into the conspiracy of a single family owning the world -

I believe it is far more reasonable to simply affirm that the very philosophy of money is at fault -
And not that there's a grand hatred of the poor or a scheme to make one person or family in control -

But rather fiat currency naturally created a vast swath of cattle wage earners -
And fiat currency naturally creates a small financial elite that are closest to the creation of money/can track its creation.

With that being said, yeah, BTC is a life raft out. I agree there

>>60758886
It's not a single family, but a select few, that are responsible for the Jewish central banking cartel.

>>60758886
>noooooo don't look at the families and individuals that are responsible and have benefited from literally owning and setting up the system of money
>ignore the fact they conspired in secret to set it up this way and have been doing it for centuries
>it's ACTUALLY just some abstract philosophical thing about the way that money works that makes this system inevitable
>so if you think about it, you can't hold anyone responsible
kys

>>60758964
>>60758973
Look, I get it I get it I get it.
The FED was set up by certain families - I do know that.
John Maynard Keynes was also a person. I get it.

HOWEVER -

- The exact people who have built these systems are long dead -
- And we have had multiple crashes and opportunities to abandon the philosophy of fiat currency since 1913.

And as the ultimate proof for my argument - we have actually done gold standards since 1913.

The reason we abandoned those standards - was not because of a coercing family - but rather it was because of reckless war spending.

To finance war and crisis, it is far too tempting to abandon a hard money standard and instead embrace a money printer.

This is not due to a specific family - rather - it is due to the technological limitations placed on governments by hard money.

This is also why societies before America have had fiat standards and hard money standards.

>>60758818
why would you hold hard assets when every market crash historically has caused cash to absolutely moon and stay mooned for years

>>60758818
>BTC
>hard asset

You have to be 18 or older to post here.

>>60759032
Because when government print more base money, hard assets (limited, scarce, hard to acquire, in demand) always rise in price -

- NOT because the hard assets have changed -
- But because the value of the cash itself has declined.

This is why Gold is worth 12.5x what is was in the year 2000.
NOT because Gold has changed in anyway -
But because it DOES NOT CHANGE while the dollar continues to lose value by excessive printing.

From the beginning to the end of the debt refinancing cycle that happens, hard assets will always be worth more at the end of them than the beginning.

>>60759034
Yet ANOTHER person who doesn't understand what BTC is.

It's amazing how many people still don't get it, even though they've watched it go from a marketcap of 0 to being worth more than Silver.

>>60759053
The Tga rebuild is going to take half a trillion until september. What is this going to do to btc?

>>60759005
>The exact people who have built these systems are long dead -
And yet their wealth and family lives on, still directing and benefiting and building on to such systems.
>The reason we abandoned those standards - was not because of a coercing family - but rather it was because of reckless war spending.
Reckless war spending for a war that nobody wanted to be a part of, war was wildly unpopular but the elites still supported a side and sent plenty of resources to help them. Why do you think that is? Because getting us onto the money printer was the goal, and they can't do that if there isn't a need for it.
Even getting people to support the war required mass coercion.
Elites basically said
>we're going to keep supplying the allies with endless resources, preventing you from ever winning, don't you go do something about it
So of course the axis's only response is to try to stop the supply lines. But the media controlled by the elites ran with it, scared everyone into thinking bombs could fall in bumfuck kansas (lol), and pushed everyone to support the war.
That was the real coercion, push into war by the elite.
>To finance war and crisis, it is far too tempting to abandon a hard money standard and instead embrace a money printer.
This isn't inherit, it required coercing to create crisis and wars in the first place, and when you look at the people responsible for each one you tend to notice a pattern.
>This is not due to a specific family - rather - it is due to the technological limitations placed on governments by hard money.
This is a feature of hard money, it requires consent to spend money. If people are in serious threat of war, they put money together and get a war fund. With fiat, governments just print money, and spend endless amounts to bomb children in gaza so israel can have more real estate, despite mass disapproval nobody can stop them, they still spend the money.

>>60759050
check the price chart of gold my friend, after every price spike it enters many years of decline and stagnation

>>60759121
See, this is where I disagree.
I, personally, find it very hard to believe that there is a master puppeteer behind every crisis, every war, and every conflict for the sole sake of enriching a certain family or circle of families.

I believe that wars and crisis are inevitable - not because someone is causing them - but rather because human conflict is completely normal and is bound to occur.

>Reckless war spending for a war that nobody wanted to be a part of, war was wildly unpopular but the elites still supported a side and sent plenty of resources to help them. Why do you think that is?
Not to get to a money printer to make people poor.
Simply because America could find itself in an advantageous position if it took the world's gold in exchange for weaponry.
Again, I really can't see it as "certain elite family wants war to make elite family rich"

I just see it as governments posturing for their own advantages.

>This isn't inherit, it required coercing to create crisis and wars in the first place
I suppose this sentence is the part I massively disagree with.
I think war, conflict, and competition are sadly inherent aspects of human nature.
And they will never cease.
And they do not need a certain system of elites to create them.

>If people are in serious threat of war, they put money together and get a war fund.
Except when the people do not fund the war fund, as is what happened in the time of John Maynard Keynes - who advised the government to switch to paper notes and print it.

Not because Keynes was part of an elite family - but rather because it solved the funding issue.

I do agree with you that governments hard print even when their citizens don't want it, but I don't believe it's because of a syndicate of elite families that puppeteer everything.

Although I DO see why a person would believe that.

>>60758679 (OP)
You were too distracted by the noise to see what was right in front of you…nothing ever really happens.

>>60759170
Of course it does.
That's the debt refinancing cycle.
Bull markets normally last around 3ish years, bear markets around 10 months to a year.

People call it the "BTC cycle", but BTC has made people more generally aware of what's going on with governments.

Right now, for example, we are in the LATE point of the cycle.
We've got maybe until H1 2026 before you see prices tank.

But I assure you, the price of gold even at the bottom of the bear will be higher than the price of gold was at the bottom of last bear.
This is because the amount of actual dollars in the system has increased.

>>60759121
>a war that nobody wanted to be a part of, war was wildly unpopular
Yes anon, the US entered WW2 because of muh rothchilds telling them to, and not because Germans were exterminating civilians left and right, and definitely not because Japan decided to erase the US' biggest naval military base with thousands of casualties. You fucking moron.

Try reading a book instead of reading /pol/ next time champ. If you start taking medication now, you might still be saved.

>>60759181
>find it very hard to believe that there is a master puppeteer behind every crisis, every war, and every conflict for the sole sake of enriching a certain family or circle of families.
>I suppose this sentence is the part I massively disagree with.
You were talking about a specific war and crises, that was what I was referring to, obviously throughout history conflict occurred for any number of reasons, but usually it was due to a lack of resources and a desire for more wealth/power.

The resource problem was largely resolved by industrialization, especially now as nobody has to go hungry, so there's no need for war beyond wealth/power - essentially sovereignty. And that's what we still see with modern wars, wars over wealth and land, and power over what people believe.
>Except when the people do not fund the war fund, as is what happened in the time of John Maynard Keynes - who advised the government to switch to paper notes and print it.
>Not because Keynes was part of an elite family - but rather because it solved the funding issue.
And how has that gone for the British? It's a completely unrecognizable country from when Keynes was around. He was forced to put it forward as solution after elite backed the country into a corner.

The bottom line is the elites use the money printer to get what they want. They have a harder time doing that with hard money. Sure they have other avenues of power and influence, but you're a moron to think the elite families had nothing to do with pushing for paper money, or that the push for paper money was inevitable.
That you seem to so truly believe paper money is inevitable that there's nothing wrong with the elite that pushed it, then that's so fatalistic to the point of retardation.
It's like saying a black person isn't responsible for robbing you because it was inevitable he would try to take money from you by force because it's in his nature.
So what if it is? He should still be held responsible.

>>60759309
>the US entered WW2 because of muh rothchilds telling them to
Yeah, why else would they be supporting one side before they were ever attacked? They had no dog in the fight, they'd be richer supplying both sides, then destroying the winner and claiming all the territory themselves.
>because Germans were exterminating civilians left and right
The propaganda really got to you, huh?
Literally nobody wanted to go to war because of muh civilians being exterminated lmao information like that wasn't even spread around, nobody knew about shit like that going on and they certainty wouldn't have cared enough to send their own sons over to die for other people. They viewed the war was going to come for them next (a lie spread by fear mongering media controlled by elites with a vested interest in getting US more invested into the war) and that was only after they were attacked.
>and definitely not because Japan decided to erase the US' biggest naval military base with thousands of casualties
US was already well involved with the war before that, otherwise Japan would have had no reason to hit them.
Japan didn't go
>well these guys are doing nothing, I think I'll randomly attack them so they join the side of my enemies

>>60759309
>Germans were exterminating civilians left and right
How many jews were exterminated at Treblinka? How long was Treblinka open? How many hours does it take to cremate one body? How much ash is left behind by said body? How much ash would remain from all those said to be exterminated? Where would you fit it in a 33 acre death camp? If they didn't cremate and cremulate all of them, how many bones would be left? How many teeth? Where would you store all of those bones and teeth? If they did pulverize all those bones, why are cremulators never mentioned in the literature? If they did burn all the bodies, how much coal is needed to burn one body? Where did they source all of that coal in the middle of a fuel shortage so bad that people couldn't even heat their homes? Where did all the ash from the combustion of the coal itself go?

Try thinking for yourself instead of reading propaganda next time champ. If you stop taking medication now, you might still be saved.

>>60759194
>H1 2026 before you see prices tank.
I have 100k USD sitting in SGOV...should I wait for a crash in btc, or should I just go all-in right now?

>>60758737
>The vast majority of people have absolutely 0 idea how money works
>the government currently spends 122% of what it makes
lol, including you

>>60759428
Should I respond to this
I shouldnt respond to this
i wont

>>60758679 (OP)
>everybody
BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVERYBODY. "Everybody" you are talking about it's just a shitfluencer or "media" and by now they've all figured out that FEAR SELLS. That's it.

>>60759435
What about this >>60759409

>>60759409
It has been proved that dca and hold beats everybody. So i would keep dcaing, only slower these days

>>60758818
You forgot Ethereum

because you surround yourself with those people, you follow those idiots online and watch those videos, algorithm only shows you what you want to see.

>>60758818
What do you think of oil stocks like XOM and CVX? Are oil stocks also good to hold besides BTC?

>>60758679 (OP)
only retards fall for disaster news
that's why 99% of people are forever poors

>>60759817
Even normfags are starting to notice the effects of inflation now, it's only a matter of time.

>>60758826

well the anology falls apart if you want to talk about "bracing for impact" as many studies have shown drunk people / those not paying attention not bracing for impact tend to live more with less injuries in sever car accidents lol. if you brace you are more likely to break your arms/legs/neck unless you know exactly how to position urself.

yet again the midwit bell curve meme is real

>>60758699
Panican

>>60758679 (OP)
trump keeps making more and more retarded decisions but there's no consequences at all seemingly

i feel like im turning mentally ill, just like those first months of covid where everyone in the west was pretending it was a nothingburger

when is something finally going to happen?