Thread 60804078

How is the economy going to function in the next couple of decades where human labor is increasingly no longer needed and more and more irrelevant?

>>60804078 (OP)
Better than ever for the USA. Europe is fucked. As it apparently was meant to be. i Don't know why.
Larry Fink was not lying in that interview.

Just fine? The rich have never cared about the starving masses, literally all that will change is that they can employ ai and robots instead of people to keep everyone in line now.

>>60804078 (OP)
AI governance.

>>60804085
Go back to /leftpol/.

>>60804090
Kek, what part of the economy doesn’t need useless eaters to function is leftypol exactly. You might be too retarded to insult honestly.

>>60804078 (OP)
More jobs involving laying down infrastructure vs planning and running all the numbers for it.
I don't mean strictly ditch digging and brick laying either, there's a lot more to these things than that.
Contrary to what your average pollet or biztard claims.

>>60804085
> The rich have never cared about the starving masses
And why the fuck should they?
Do you understand that a healthy human society consists of a high intellect class who buys time of the lesser classes to further the cause as well as their own wealth? They never asked anything in return for that. You yet do expect to be provided with a comfortable life without effort. Ok. But you can't demand that from the rich. On what grounds? Have you personally done anything for them?

>>60804078 (OP)
no strings attached basic income for all citizens, paid for by oligarchs

>>60804078 (OP)
Realistically I don’t think much is going to change. We’ve seen the same thing before, with computers and again with the internet. Low-skill jobs disappeared, but entire new industries blossomed in their place. AI is no different, except it’s a nothingburger until it does something legitimately disruptive.

I like to think about it this way: despite 5 iterations of ChatGPT, it is still basically glorified autofill with built-in schizophrenia. The best use for AI in current year is making art, and that use is already beginning to break down since models are being trained on their own previous work. If AI does ever become legitimately useful, it will require more jobs to keep it that way. Again, lower skills jobs will disappear and higher skill jobs will take their place.

>>60804159
AI is already replacing some jobs like translators and customer support agents. i know that's not society shifting, but there are more practical uses than just making art.

>>60804150
>do you understand that a healthy human society consists of a high intellect class who buys the time of lesser classes
Guess they won’t even need to buy their time anymore. I can’t possibly see any downsides with creating globe spanning urban poverty until the rich bother to nuke it down, yes this seems like a well thought out plan.

>>60804078 (OP)
Ask ChatGPT to grow your food, retard.

>>60804169
Like phone trees and google translate ?

Same shit different flavor , they are hyping it like big data , iot , web 3.0 etc . There are certain aspects that are interesting and useful like writing slop. But it is inconsistent , not transparent , and will make up shit , lie or just be lazy . There will be improvmenta , but agents are trash currently , and it breaks down pretty quickly trying to replace a human in most jobs .

Like the other anon said , more hype now than product , after things shake up new jobs will form to harness and service it . There will be some job disruptions , who knows if that is 2%or 60% , but i think it will be along the lower range .

>>60804190
not just google translate, businesses who run websites need to have the website translated to many different languages. this is not something you can manage with google translate at scale. previously my company hired humans to do this job, but they just fired the humans and replaced them with AI automation. it's not going to reshape society, but this is just one example. i think that truck driving is going to be at risk also in the next few years, and taxi drivers.

>>60804202
accountants are trending towards fucked. legal assistants. it's just a few things here and there, but this all adds up, and the boundaries will keep getting pushed out further.

>>60804226
Lmao, tax accountant here. I can’t tell you how many clients I have who get downright poisonous advice from AI. I’m not talking “client asks bad question and gets bad answer” so much as “client asks a question that any accountant could answer in a second and AI hallucinates and tells the client to commit tax fraud.” I know ChatGPT passed the cpa exam, but it still has a long way to go before being a replacement for a real CPA.

You're all fucked. But it will usher in a new prosperity.

>>60804078 (OP)
It’s already kinda that way. Most of the white collar jobs are fake and each worker performs labor for less than 10% of the shift. White collar jobs are like a soft-UBI, a type of adult daycare to keep the normalfags busy because the psychopaths who control them are afraid of them having too much free time, because normalfags go violently crazy when they’re left alone with their own thoughts for too long.

So to answer your question. More fake jobs will be created. Chief A.I. Delegator and shit like that. Director of Artificial Intelligence Ethics and Inclusivity.

They will pay 50% of us to dig holes and 50% of us to fill holes. We will all have an existential crisis

Bros what if the world became like Mad Max ahhh we're so fucked

>>60804274
I see no problem with this so long as value is being generated. Wages will never understand that white collar chads are paid for knowledge and expertise instead of time.

>>60804078 (OP)
There will be new diseases or wars to thin the herd of the useless eaters

>>60804084
which interview

>>60804078 (OP)
You will be lobotomized and become a cyborg. They wont take the effort to build robots, that interact perfectly with their environment.

>>60804078 (OP)
Companies will sell goods and servicing to rich people.

>>60804078 (OP)
You either hold LINK or you don't.

>>60804150
>But you can't demand that from the rich
So I guess rich people should give back 90% of their estates because that accumulation is the n°1 source of misery for non-rich people.

>>60804159
People that relies on "selling knowledge" are the ones that will get fucked the most.

People go to the doctor, for example, be cause they don't know shit about medicine. If a glorified bot can access and deliver precise medical advice for 10% the cost of a normal, fallible doctor, most people will choose it.

>>60804078 (OP)
Bullshit jobs. Been like that for decades

>>60804078 (OP)
The same way it did the past 100 years? Did we go back to living in caves after factories were automated you dumb fucking frog poster?

>>60804276
They are already doing that.

>>60804078 (OP)
the only jobs going away are the UBI office email jobs, i wouldn't call that human labor

>>60804078 (OP)
The rich will live in AI controlled cities full of robots and security and the rest of you will live outside in a completely separate society which will probably resemble Brazil or south africa.

>>60805640
They're trying to speedrun the class war?

>>60804078 (OP)
I know how goverments will respond though. By bringing in more shitskins to suck up more social security

>>60804078 (OP)
Pretty much it's gonna be communism or jewish neo-feudalism.

>>60804078 (OP)
Don't care. Fuck you, I got mine. And honestly nobody subjected to this really cares, either. You're all too comfortable being cattle.

>>60806382
Look up network states. This is the endgame for tech entrepreneurs like Thiel, Zuck, Altman. Collapse the current society to rule over their own fiefdoms.