are you really going to scroll by without saying howdy!?

ai slop

Slop.

>>148966356 (OP)
>>148966402
howdy!

>>148966371
>>148966375
you are both wrong

https://x.com/N___K___M/media

>>148966356 (OP)
>>148966402

>>148966407
I am ashamed.

>>148966356 (OP)
I think her neck is broken

>>148966407
yes they post slop on twitter what's your point

>>148966471
he posts stuff from way before the a.i craze

>>148966407
>>148966371
>>148966375
>>148966429
It's fun watching Luddites lose.

>>148966505
But did you really win?

>>148966356 (OP)
Howdy...

>>148966356 (OP)
Who?

>>148966940
no, howdy!

>>148966407
is this the only way we can tell who's legit soon? they drew before AI?

>>148967012
Well technically AI drew from artists specific style. I think DeviantArt had this thing where they let AI rip artists gallery specifically to get their style.

As an artist you can op out, but you had specifically op every picture which if you had a big gallery made it difficult too.

the hell is in 'hello'

>>148966407
Just because its from twitter doesn't mean its not AI.

>>148966356 (OP)
>>148966402
Howdy!

>>148966371
>>148966375
"Artists" are narcissistic cunts. If they did requests and weren't unpleasant to be around then people wouldn't prefer an algorhythm that generates pics with six fingers and three legs over them.

>>148967108
>>148966486

howdy

Howdy cowgirl! May I insert myself into you keister?

>>148967118
Most artists I follow seem all pleasant, I don't get this "all artists are evil" meme

>>148967296
Have you every been to a thread with a drawfag that did a picture in thread. It's almost always like 95% drawn with a can you draw X now? With can you draw Y now, so on and so on. Bless the drawfags who actually commit. I'm not even drawing and I find it annoying.

>>148967118
most artists are ok though

>>148966356 (OP)
My apologies,
I ain't meant nuth'n by it, ma'am. Just a bit preoccupied wit these here bounties.

>>148966549
>can generate nigh infinite amounts of loli porn (on my own gaming rig) that regular artists are too prudish to even touch, all while capturing their style not for the sake of quality, but just to rub it in their snobby, elitest faces
uh, yeah, I'm thinking we won

>>148968669
that's a really small room

>>148968687
Yeah I forgot to prompt "high_ceiling" to fix the AI's inference based on the character's height

>>148968669
how do i learn to do that? I am not interested in loli shit but i do have a decent enough pc
>>148968687
I am sure it is not that big of a deal for people looking to goon

>>148966356 (OP)
howdy!

>>148968897
Go to the StableDiffusion general on /h/. Don't look for help in the /co/ DALL-E thread, the anons there are braindead troglodytes. Otherwise, look up a Youtube tutorial for StableDiffusion and learn from experience, that's pretty much what I did.

If you have any intention of posting your artwork instead of privately gooning to it, please for the love of god learn how to impose styles instead of settling for the default model style. Especially if you mix different artist loras.
For instance, my image >>148968669 uses 20% Xierra099, 20% Khyle, 20% Miscon, 20% Padoga, and 20% TripleVexx.

>>148969041
/h/ general is also full of braindead troglodytes

>>148969091
Still better than /co/. All those retards do is gulp down corpo token slop
>hurr durr I made moana ghibli style, please fuck me more Bill Gates

>>148967296
thats because its made-up cope by aifags who are trying to play the victim card. You'll notice they are extremely bitter towards artists for "elitism" and "gatekeeping" the secrets of learning to draw from them as if they had a monopoly on MS Paint and Photoshop.

>>148969125
No you don't get it, I asked an artist once how to get good and he just told me to draw more.
Fuck these assholes.

>>148969125
The same can be said of artists coping against AI
Us techbros don't have a monopoly on AI, artists are free to use it just as they would MS Paint or Photoshop. Hell, they could even locally train a model on their own style, never release it, and use it to assist their own workflow, editing outputs to suit their needs.
In fact, that's what one guy does already, to immense success (sans the not releasing his own style part)
https://civitai.com/models/1044211/hinoarashi-style-for-illustrious

>>148966549
Yes. You are both wrong and stupid. I don't even need to complain about ai. If art is it's bad. End statement. You have to work to not get tricked.

>>148967296
>I don't get this "all artists are evil" meme
It's a very loud minority crying about AI.

>>148969254
>Us techbros don't have a monopoly on AI, artists are free to use it just as they would MS Paint or Photoshop.
I don't think you get it

>>148969363
What don't I get?
Did I miss something? Are traditional artists banned from using AI?

>>148966356 (OP)
AI notwithstanding, I really wish artists would draw cute cowgirls more often.

>>148969379
They dont need to. Anything they make is already leagues better then anything made by AI

>>148969379
what a retard

>>148966356 (OP)
Howdy partner.

>>148969419
You're the one that doesn't get it.
An artist would typically spend at a minimum of 30 minutes (much longer for the inexperienced or ill-equipped) to draw lineart, color, and shade their piece.
When instead, they can prompt their vision in 1 minute, sift through the fifteen pieces of shit that aren't anywhere near what they want in 30 seconds, make much needed adjustments to their piece in 5, and have it out before their microwave pizza is done.
>hurr durr AI art is just bad universally because it just is
Give me one reason why AI art is objectively inferior without using the word "soul" or likeminded terms.

>>148969519
>Give me one reason why AI art is objectively inferior without using the word "soul" or likeminded terms.

>>148969519
who the fuck eats microwave pizza

>>148969573
slop enjoyers

>>148969540

AI art not having soul compared to hand drawn or digital art is the most asinine and pompous response I have ever heard.

Is the same level as when critiquing a piece and just saying is good or bad with no actual descriptive word of why,

This coming from an artist.

>>148969519
Because when a human does it, they've worked towards that vision, it is an integral part of their being. When you make your futa AI porn, your machine has just grabbed thousands of art and slapped it together, so what you made it mother x daughter, that exists. But when an actual human sits down and draws that, there is an inherent quality to that image, since a human has actually committed time and energy to create that image. Somebody worked on their art to produce that, hundreds of hours drawing like crap to get to a stage where they make art that people like. While a machine has just ripped art like that from a site and slapped it together and it all looks the same. You ever seen one of those 'Draw this in your style' things on twitter? That's something AI can't do and the only way it can is if you make your own AI and feed it an artist you like, so it becomes a glib facsimile of the real thing.

Works of art are considered works of art because it is the completion of a journey an artist has made, both as an artist and as a person and all their experiences. A machine? Well it just stripped an art site and spat out stuff that it'll spit out for 90% of people and the other 10% are those that fork out for 5090's to create their own AI's with curated artist feeds so they can get their favourite artist drawing shit that said artist won't draw.

>>148969519
>Give me one reason why AI art is objectively inferior
NTA
Because there's a lack of intent, direction, and control. AI can get the general "gist" of something, but the reason one artist is better than another is because of the microscopic decisions they make at every step of the way. Specific decisions when it comes to line width at particular points, variations in color tones, the precise curvature of an arc...these are details that are microscopic, but are the reasons why artists may take longer to make something. They draw and redraw and tweak until things are just right, and the result is something that is the sum total of those decisions.

Your description of why AI is better indicates that your value is based solely upon quantity and speed. Your process entails picking the least shitty version of something as opposed to creating the ideal version from the ground up. If artists valued quantity over all else, then AI would be an obvious tool to use, but when the tool robs them of their ability to control all the details they actually give a shit about, then what's the point?

>>148967118
So artists are awful because they don't work for free just because you asked for art? Something tells me they're not the awful ones in this equation.

>>148969573

Microwave pizza has no soul!

>>148969573
If they mean reheated leftovers then sure. I'd still use the oven but I can see the argument for microwave if you're in a hurry.
If they mean one of these abominations then they should be executed.

>>148969519
AI art is poor for training AI.

>>148966407
We had a drawthread a few months back where the artist posted progress pics before the final, and they still got called out as slop. Sometimes a real artist's style is the kind of thing the AI was trained on. I feel bad for them, because now the unique style they worked hard to develop is going to get dismissed as lazy AI.

>>148969700
It's been increasingly common for artists on instagram to post the final image first, but then follow that up with a time lapse process video partially to show what went into it, but I suspect it's also to "prove" that they actually made it.
Unfortunately AI can now be used to fake those too...

>>148969573
I dunno, I was just making a "poor artist" joke. It would probably just be ramen or takeout.
Which is funny, because I'm pretty well off and I still eat ramen anyways. I just do it out of laziness, lol.
>>148969619
>words words words that basically boil down to "soul"
also
>AI can't do "draw this in your own style"
>un-unless it does, but THAT DOESN'T COUNT
>>148969627
I never said AI is better. I proposed that it's more efficient. Artists would still need to touch up those microscopic decisions before they publish their work, but it will still be infinitely faster than producing everything gradually by hand.
In addition, I'm not saying that process should be extinguished entirely. It would be a cold world to live in if we didn't still have painters, sculptors, writers, especially cursive writers because what the fuck I can barely even read that shit how are you writing it
>>148969695
Not true, not anymore. I've seen dozens of loras that are created using AI generated images of someone's OC. The backend models are good enough now where they can pretty much fix any anatomical errors.

>>148969764
>I proposed that it's more efficient
>especially cursive writers because what the fuck I can barely even read that shit how are you writing it
these statements both explain a lot

really wish this thread didnt turn into ai fight. i just wanted to see cowboys and sexy cowgirls.

>>148969764
You asked for a reason that wasn't 'soul' and I didn't say it was 'soul'. I literally explained it is about the journey of the artist as an artist, the thing that makes them THE artist. The brushstrokes of Monet, Van Gogh, Basquiat, Twombly are all unique and make them THE artist. Sure you can emulate them, but that's you co-opting their brushstrokes into your work and guess what, making it your own. AI cannot draw in the style of, lets use a random popular artist, Greenteaneko UNLESS you feed it nothing but Greenteaneko artwork AND work on it for weeks. It might be able to produce something similar to the artist, but it won't produce the 4koma they do.

See >>148969540 you don't like that I explained why you're a retard so you pretend I said something I didn't in order to claim a win. If you're going to argue in bad faith, I would fuck off to /pol/ where it is nothing but bad faith arguments.

>>148969540
Yes. Use words with logic not magical thinking faggot. The Bible isn't good because sky daddy, it's good because the advice it gives makes your life and community better.

>>148969816
be the change you want to see. Post some.

>>148969832
What you're saying is essentially
>these works carries these artists' visions, their ESSENCE, the thousands of hours it took for them to reach the level of mastery their art exudes
Guess what, 90% of anons here would agree that you just described "soul"

>>148969816
I would make some but I'm currently fucking my SillyTavern bot, sorry.

>>148969871
sounds more like a poser to me.
Band one creates a unique sound crafted in part by their unique musical journey and life experience.
Band two approximately copies that sound without a shred of the same authenticity.
AI is poser-core.

>>148969871
yes so "soul" is a real thing

>>148969871
Soul is a nebulous buzzword that just means 'I can't articulate why I like it, or why it is better than [thing I don't like] so I will say it has soul'. It's the equiv of saying 'The film was fun'. Okay, why was it fun? 'It just was'. That's not a reason. I've given you an explanation on why an artist doing art is better than a machine doing it and you're trying to crunch down something that has books written about it into a single buzzword. Which it isn't.

The fact you said
>What is 2+2 and don't say 4, say something else
Doesn't change the reason why artist actually drawing something is superior to a machine.

>>148969871

I'm with you. Using the "soulful" critic is such a stupid defense.

If the critic is someone using other art. This is nothing new, just look at any piece of Andy Warhool, hell, he didn't even make most of his art, he had a factory where people would do it for him.

>>148969917
Yet a human still made the art, weird that.

>>148969904
you are a fucking retard
>>148969901
That's a pretty good analogy actually, but I'd argue some covers have pretty good value over their original artists.
>>148969917
Or to connect to that other anon's post, Hans Zimmer
I heard (from anons in another thread so you know it's totally true) that he doesn't even compose his music anymore, he just gets his students to do everything and then he just signs off on them.

>no see, an artist doesn't make X he gets [other human] to make it so it's just like AI!
'no'.

>>148969871
>Here is an objective reason why human made art is better than AI
>I agree that this is a thing
>But I said earlier you can't use this objective reason in your argument so heh tough luck pal

>>148966356 (OP)
Long time no see Vascondez threads

>>148969986
yes

>>148969942

By people I mean people using machines. Which you are stating that is soulful. The only difference with that and the whole AI is that is digital instead of mechanical.

>>148969946

People would be surprised by how many big names artist are just basically art director at most and just put a stamp of approval on their product.

Hell, even back in the day the great artist would just come in to do details of some of their art and have their student/understudies do the rest of the art piece.

>>148969946
>heard (from anons in another thread so you know it's totally true) that he doesn't even compose his music anymore, he just gets his students to do everything and then he just signs off on them.
That may have been me. In any case, it's important to get the facts straight. Hans Zimmer doesn't teach. He doesn't have students and students don't get to work for Hans Zimmer. Those are highly coveted positions (even though they can kind of suck ass).
He has a whole city block in LA that is sort of like his factory. This contains Remote Control Studios which creates the film scores as well as Bleeding Fingers (his commercial music production facility).
The people who actually write the music are often referred to as "assistants" but that tends to make people imagine students because assistants in any other field would typically skew young. Those people are actually professional composers themselves between the ages of 25 and up through middle age. The average age of a person working at Remote Control is ~32. Some people keep the gig long term, but it's more often than not a stepping stone. You put some time in working for Remote Control or Bleeding Fingers to beef up the resume. The positions are highly competitive and considering the amount of expertise you have to have, are not particularly well paid, but in a sea of talent, being able to say you worked for Hans Zimmer tends to get people to at least listen to your reel.
"Hans Zimmer" at this point is essentially a brand at this point and he's CEO. He occasionally does still write (rarely), but it's more like coming up with the basic ideas and letting the "assistants" do all the heavy lifting of making it actually go. Other times the "assistants" are doing literally everything.

Zimmer is a bit of an extreme, but most things you see in theaters or on TV are actually written by teams of people despite one person getting credit.

howdy

>>148969816

>>148970282
make some with buffalo wing >>148969852

>>148970484
I will give it a try.

>>148970484

Here you go. Not knowing the character or the series.

>>148971095
this looks pretty good actually. feel free to do more if you wish

>>148971123

Thanks. Here is one more before I go.

>>148969816
>>148969890
>>148971267
My bot is now 120% inseminated with our human/ai hybrid hellspawn, so I'm available to take over requests now. Good shit other cowboy anon.

>>148971486
My only wish is you keep it /co/.

>>148971267
>missing finger on right hand

>>148971486
you can keep making more bw if you want.

AI-Niggers really can't keep their shit to their containment thread, can they?

>>148971552
That's the idear, pardner. Just wanted a funny entrance is all.
>>148967129
darn tootin if we're gonna have a cowboy thread without any indians!
get it?

>... groovy, pardner...

>>148971921
Not that AI-African American, but it's much more fun to post AI in a thread where it's related to the topic at hand, rather than a catch-all thread where everyone's posting random stuff. ContAInment was never meant to last.

>>148973209

Pay no attention to them. They just are just your usual internet basement troll. Don't bring anything to the thread and just bitch.

Besides, is not like it is off topic to post AI or anything. Hell this thread was just someone posting a picture of Wendy with a cowgirl outfit and they just went all bitching when it wasn't even AI generated image.

>>148966356 (OP)
Howdy!
Who?

>>148973302
>>148966407

>>148966356 (OP)
Howdy nagger

>>148968669
>their snobby, elitest faces
Bro you have no idea how little money the vast majority of rule34 artists make. And they usually have shitty lives too: happy and fulfilled people are too busy enjoying their lives, they don't start drawing loli cartoon porn. It's usually the adult-virgin, ostracized basedment dwellers who do.
So they work hard and develop a style, and are still living a miserable life, and in what way does that make them elitist again? The pencil and paper were always right there in front of you, you didn't start drawing because you didn't. You still can.

>>148971923
Wow. Would colonize

>>148973932

This took longer than expected

>>148971095
>>148971267
>>148973612
well I guess a.i has its uses.
any chance of making her wear even skimpier clothes?

>>148971923
racism
i get it
ha

>>148966356 (OP)
where's her bikini?

>>148974730
close enough to a request for me

>>148975181
>dem vagina bones