Did it deserve to flop?

>>148981006 (OP)
no. too bad people in the 2000s had terrible taste

They canned the fully finished PS1 game and only released a demo. I'd like to play the full thing but it's never leaked.

Reminder that Chicken Run premiered a week later, meaning that Titan A.E. got quickly overshadowed

>>148981079
I saw ads for Chicken Run everywhere as a kid and nothing for Titan A.E., I didn't even know it existed until years later.

>>148981079
Chel's fat ass was also in theatres a few months earlier. It was all ogre.

I watched it on a bigass imax screen when it came out... honestly I was a little underwhelmed and not surprised it didn't catch on. The 3d backgrounds were fairly janky looking

>>148981036
not as bad as people of today

>>148981430
Definitely not as bad as kids of today. 2008 ruined everything.

>>148981046
>>148981006 (OP)
Why don't they just re-release it now that it's been 20 years?

Wasn't this film also intentionally sabotaged, like Treasure Planet?

>Handsome white male saves humanity
>Defeats ancient evil, restores earth
>Gets the girl
Jew with disapproving facial expressions in the corner: "This... this must be destroyed."
>But I'm not broken!
>In my dream, I win!
>And here I'm nothing!
>A cosmic castaway- EA, a cosmic castaway!

>>148981793
fuck yo gonna do Timmy, Moshe ain't scared

>>148981079
Rightfully so. I still admire Titan A.E.'s ambition, but the characters felt a little flat and the energy lacking compared to other 2000s animated features. Shame that it led to Fox Animation shuttering.

>>148981036
>>148981430
>>148981466
Nah even before 2008 people had shitty taste in everything.

>>148981006 (OP)
Needed to have Stith as a competitor for Cale, with Cale being into both. Akima was the standard, boring white boy asian-fetish fantasy fulfillment.

>>148981006 (OP)
I enjoyed it.
Saw it 3 times at the theater.

>>148981036
They advertised it with Creed music. It deserved to flop.

>>148981793
>>148981883
>hooks up with an Asian chick
Literally the most Jewish thing ever.

>>148982206
>honorary aryans are... le jewish!!

>>148982273
Race mixing is a very Jewish thing, yes. But cute how you cling to the "honorary Aryan" tag.

>>148981006 (OP)
Was it THIS movie that kicked off the trend?

>>148983421
possibly

>>148983421
Sex with Gogo

>>148983421
I wish it would come back.

>>148983421
I really like all of them.

>>148983421
Never understood the backlash for this.

>>148982206
Wrong, that would be wmbf

>>148984361
Race mixing ACROSS the board is a Jewish trick and you fell for it thinking it was actually based and nationalist.

>>148984383
You are sounding like a long nose.

>>148984520
>being against race mixing and wanting to keep your bloodline pure makes you a long nose because...it just does okay!?
Alright Schlomo.

>>148984361
Fuck you bleached is top tier.

>>148984548
>Intimidating people to live with whiney white women
Okay, Steinberg

>>148984361
don't you mean bmwf?

>>148984342
there was never any backlash

>>148984599
Yes Goldman, white men should be with white women and Asian women should be with Asian men. It's not hard at all.

>have a thread about an obscure and underrated animated film
>thread gets filled with complaining about Jews and race mixing
This site should have stayed hacked.

>>148984721
Keep malding, you'll be replaced anyway, faggoy

>>148984747
Nazis feel more comfortable now that leftoids are also naming the Jew

>>148984721
It is actually rather hard to love a white woman that's been through 4 years of a university and hates men.

>>148984747
>tfw could almost escape 4chan

>>148984784
You ever thought that was because she got abandoned by the white man?

>>148984753
Given recent events, not likely :)

>>148981793
your file is misnamed, I think you mean Titan A.E. - Bob's Birth

>>148984721
>asian """men"""

>>148984860
They get what they get, I don't make the rules.

>>148984807
Sounds like her problem.
The several cats she gets will never abandon her though.

>>148981079
I guess you could say they were in over their heads

>>148984383
Asians and Europeans are genetically closer to each other than other races

>>148981006 (OP)
No.

Waiting for that fucking Bluray. Movie was rendered in 1920x1080 (with black bars), someone better do it.

>>148981793
Not bad. I'm sure someone can make a slightly bigger one with less compression and under 4mb........ but not bad.

>>148985556
I agree, finns and europeans are basically brothers.

>>148981006 (OP)
>IT'S MY TURN TO FLY
It's my turn to fly
>IT'S MY TURN TO FLY

>>148986035
Fun (and sad) fact: that track did not appear on any Urge albums.

For no reason in particular, posting a track from their first album, and the last release they made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPZFyMi1WEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gWu0_Y5kK4

The scene where the roach cook guy gets point blank executed by Drej fucked me up as a kid

>>148986101
I'm glad to see Urge-bros still exist.

>>148981408
It's not terrible, but it was really that impressive for the time on a technical level, and beyond that, it wasn't that memorable or that cool.

Treasure Planet, on the other hand, is a certified work of pure kinography.

>>148986208
I just want them to collect some more songs, to put on a new album. Am I an Urge-bro if I only learned of them through Titan AE? Btw I only own the first album (CD) and Galvanized. Both purchased from their store.

>>148986232
Dude, I'm an Urge-bro because of Titan A.E. The fact that you have physical media from them probably makes you the greatest Urge-Bro in existence.

>>148986224
I like both right now (was too stupid in the past and tried to pick one and shit on the other), and the production history was not anywhere near fair. Titan was made in 1 and a half years after Fox execs gotten too tired of people doing nothing but make concept art for 10 years. Planet got more time in the oven, and much more money.

At least Titan AE eventually got a full CD soundtrack, while Treasure Planet's CD is missing about 10 minutes of music.

>>148981079
I saw neither in theaters, saw Titan AE the second it was in video stores, and didn't see Chicken Run until way after it ended up on cable a decade after it came out.

>>148986252
DUDE GO AND BECOME LIKE ME
https://theurge.merchtable.com/music

And by that I mean they still have Bust Me Dat Forty and Galvanized on CD. Get yours before all copies are gone.

best girl

>>148986289
Receiving the Gift of Flavor is a good one. Really started to lean into the Ska there.

>>148984383
>>148984520
>>148984548
>>148984599
>>148984721

>>148986424
The very first track on Bust Me Dat Forty is ska.

>>148986373
Has anyone drawn sith Stith yet?

>>148982206
Jews that actually play schizo race games hate east asians though, especially the Japanese, why do you think that until super recently they were treated as white every other month and fucked over for it, and now they're just regularly under attack for not being "diverse" enough despite having long standing limited intermingling with everyone from most of europe to even Brazil.

>>148981006 (OP)
doomed from the start
>was going to be live-action movie originally
>rotted in development hell for a while
>then they tried to have it be a live-action TV show
>more development hell
>FOX remembered they had an animation department and threw it at them
>it floundered around for more time with nothing getting done
>don bluth gets hired on to save the movie
>what we got is what bluth could cobble together with what was already made and the left over time he had to add or fix things

CAN YOU
TAKE
ME
HIGHER

>>148984383
The real secret is that Racemixing is only a problem when it's a man of another ethnicity fucking your women and Jews know it due to having been cucked for thousands of years, hence why they're one of the only cultures that trace lineage matrilineally.

Everyone else understands this on an instinctive level, that the father's genetics are the ones that matter most, hence why literally every fucking society that has ever existed on any functional level has some taboo against it but is ambivalent at worst towards the opposite up until like the late victorian where social darwinism got mainstreamed.

>>148986538
I'm perfectly willing to believe it was done as an elaborate gambit to sink Bluth's career specifically.

>>148986538
wasnt there like some stupid demands from the studio like minor things they were prohibited to add in scenes?

If anyone has not read these, please do. Titan's story went through many revisions as it was moving closer to being finished. So the "adult" novelization is not the same story, and the comic made to promote the film has some serious inconsistencies. These 2 short prequels? Very respectful of the final movie, and both Cale and Akima (and Stith btw) are very in-character. YES, STITH FEATURED.

>>148986786
Nah, just more of Bad Bluth Luck. Aside from Banjo NIMH and Bartok, every one of his projects had something go wrong. And that's not even touching 4 back to back bad movies he directed in the 90s.

>>148986808
Not really, Fox WANTED the movie to be more edgy, to appeal to teenage boys. So no real censorship. As a matter of fact, the movie was animated OVERTIME, Don convinced them to let him add more minutes to the runtime. So he basically saved the movie by making it work at all.

>>148981006 (OP)
Not really. I remember going to the cinema a few months before it was released and saw the trailer. The shot of the Earth blowing up affected me seriously, don't know why.

A year later, in High School, our physics teacher decided one day to put this movie on and it was... OK. Nothing out of the ordinary but it wasn't terrible as Quest for Camelot. It had fun scenes and, the characters are likeable.

It's not a masterpiece, but it's better than what Dreamworks was doing before Shrek and marginally worse than what Disney was doing in the same period of time (Treasure Planet/Atlantis).

Also, yeah, Akima's shower scene.

>>148986373
>You will never get yelled at in a grimy corridor by a muscular 8 foot tall bat-kangaroo lady with a bad attitude
why even live

>>148987051
Between her and Juni Zane I developed a taste for asian spaceship pilot ladies with short hair and long bangs,

>>148983421
Why is it always a purple bang? Whypurple specifically?

>>148987388
It was a fashion trend for a few years. Could not guess that without me pointing it out?

>>148987416
But why purple

>>148981036
I saw it in theaters twice. Once during its initial release and a few years later in a dollar theater. I'm one of the people you can least blame for the flop

>>148987970
Probably to be extra more unique. That and purple USED to be for the rich, since naturally purple (and not just red + blue) dye was super rare and expensive.

>>148987051
>what Dreamworks was doing before Shrek
better than the Prince of Egypt? Chicken Run? The Road to El Dorado? Get fucked

>>148981006 (OP)
I fucking adore the idea of sci-fi settings in which Humanity are the scum of the galaxy that barely survive an inglorious existence on the fringe of galactic society, persisting only through the power of spite and stubborn determination. Wish there were more sci-fi stories about Humanity making a great exodus to establish on a new home on an alien world after losing Earth.

>>148988085
You forgot Antz

>>148988085
Better than Joseph: King of Dreams, Spirit, Sinbad and other forgettable movies.

And yeah, the only redeeming element of Road to El Dorado is Chel, so better than that too.

>>148988635
Anon, what the fuck are you doing...... that's just a salad of movies, some better than others.

>>148988923
>some better than others
Yeah, but all mediocre at best.
Let me guess: you liked Simbad? Did you really like the movie or are you just a simp for Eris, the same way most Road to El Dorado fans like that movie because Chel is hot?

why do normies sleep on animated science fiction? is it too political?

>>148981006 (OP)
Take away the Don Bluth animation, and what is it? Generic sci-fi slop. That's the ONLY thing this movie has going for it.

>>148989045
Atlantis is REALLY short.

>>148989037
Spirit is really solid (watched it last year), Joseph is as good as Tanakh can be in an idealized 2d cartoon form. Road to El Dorado is at least an 8/10. The only movie worse than Titan is Sindbad, and I saw it and it was okay, not great but okay (and proto Pirates of the Carribean). Stop being a grump and stop hating on good movies.

Invader Zim has unironically better sci-fi lore than this movie

>>148989459
>bring up Zim
>Zim lore
The non-fun kind of autism, you have.

>>148989087
>That's the ONLY thing this movie has going for it
Wrong. Stith is CUTE

>>148990196
Anon, do you not have the native 1080 version?

>>148990290

>>148990301

>>148990290
>>148990301
>>148990306
Shame we won't ever see those proto-designs of Stith the note mentions of

>>148990608
Well, you should make an educated guess and conclude they were less cute.

>>148990688
Highly debatable, we won't know because it doesn't exist. Either way it would of been cool to see the design evolution

>>148981006 (OP)
I do not think so.

>>148989301
This looked way more polished than Titan A.E. DreamWorks's hand-drawn films were on par with the Disney Renaissance, meanwhile Fox was still struggling to keep up with either studio

>>148981471
License and rights issues. Disney owns Fox, including this movie and Anastasia.

>>148991701
Yeah, Fox animation division was horribly mismanaged.

>>148991800
damn shame

>>148986373
I love her so much

>>148986855
Where can I get one of these?

>>148981006 (OP)
Having recently watched this movie, it looks good but narratively is a total mess.

>>148992113
What do you love about her specifically?

>>148992578
Well, outwards she's an athletic girl, which is my type to begin with, but moreover she has a cute face and a nice ass.
Looking deeper, I like her temperamental but kind nature. I feel like she's the type who comes off as gruff and temperamental, rude even - but once she gets to know you, and decides she likes you, she'd be that one friend who'd not hesitate to kill for you. As a lover, she'd be temperamental but so very passionate; dominant but would want someone who can dominate her, show her he is worthy. This is my headcanon and a reason why I'd love to see more canon info on her.
What we do have information on is that she's a trained combatant, smart and well read. Which are attractive qualities.

>>148981006 (OP)
No

>>148981006 (OP)
The problem with Don Bluth movies is his characters constantly pull this facial expression that makes it look like they got shit under their nose. Anastasia and Dmitri constantly pulled the same expression in Anastasia. Once you see it, you'll never unsee it.

>>148991701
The fact is when you rewatch Disney rennaissance films, many of them aren't even well animated. Movies like Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast have worse animation and lower frame rates than even you average tv anime episode at the time had. DreamWorks 2d animation completely mogs those films, atleast in terms of purely technical animation. The Disney rennaissance was about the songs, stories and characters- the animation itself wasn't that good and if you rewatch scenes from them now you'll see what I mean.

>>148981883
>fuck yo gonna do Timmy,
Remember, the guy who started that meme, literally FAFO'd with a Timmy and died.

>>148983421
Still one of my top fetishes as a HuWhite Man.

>>148992690
VERY well said.

The Drej did nothing wrong.

Titan A.E. is a mediocre movie that doesn't compare to the 2D movies that Disney, DreamWorks and Warner Bros recently brought us at the time (Hercules, Mulan, Tarzan, Fantasia 2000, Prince of Egypt, Road to El Dorado, The Iron Giant). It also doesn't compare to the all-CGI movies from that era (Antz, Bug's Life, Toy Story 2) or the stop-motion movie that Aardman released a week later (Chicken Run)

>>148981006 (OP)
is that Alex Summers and Betsy Braddock

>>148992117
Buy. With money.

>>148991800
I guess you could say the production crew were over their heads

There is a reason why Fox Animation Studios (Anastasia, Bartok the Magnificient, Titan A.E.) and Imagi Studios (TMNT, Astro Boy) died so quickly. Their movies had good animation/cinematography/music, but they just didn't have very good writing

>>148984807
>You ever thought that was because she got abandoned by the white man?
Should've behaved better then.

>>148996327

>>148996356
Titan had mostly good writing, it was just forced to be compressed and too short for its ambition. And Bartok is actually perfect for what it is.

>>148982206
when your homeworld is blown up and mankind is on the brink of death, things like bloodluttorness seems pretty worthless

>>148993270
Jarvis pull up black on white homicide statistics...

>>148982206
white people are going the way of tolkein elves and wont exists in several hundred years...

>>148997108
Grok pull up black on black homicide statistics

>>148997178
Friday show me white and asian tfr and contrast it against african nations...

>>148997206
>>148997178

>>148981006 (OP)
Get woke, go broke. It’s an eternal truth of Western civilization.

>>148986570
Tell that to Elliot Rogers.

This needs to be saved on more people's hard drives.

I. Don't. Have. Stith.

:(

>>149001620
Sucks

>>148981006 (OP)
is that William and Dupli-Kate

>>149001579
Nice volume on this drawing!

>>149002354
Don enjoyed Gune the most, since he was the most "cartoon character" in this srs sci-fi cartoon.

>>149002605
And it shows!

>>148998116
"eternal truth" except when it fails half the times

>>148981006 (OP)
>>148981036
It was *okay*.

>>148986373
ugh, she's all knees and elbows

>>148986899
>every one of his projects had something go wrong
If a student runs into trouble in every single class they take, or a worker gets fired from every single job they take, at a certain point you have to start asking yourself whether or not they're the common factor. If shit goes wrong with every single project a director works on, the director might be a *part* of the problem.

Don't get me wrong, Bluth is an amazing and ambitious animator and I love a lot of his films... but after everything I've been able to research on his career, I'm not convinced he was all that good of a director.

>>149003558
Are you 12? Not replying was an option.

>>149003701
are YOU 12? still thinking "go woke go broke" is some actual eternal truth and not a statement of ridicule when so many things have disproven it again and again over the years?

>>149003696
In the case of the couple of tragic deaths from the actors he used that's not really his fault. Mrs. Brisby's VA was just horribly depressed in general and was dead set on killing herself and Judith Barsi was killed because her father was a cunt jealous his daughter was more famous than him.

>>149003696
I heard your argument before. The reason it is such a memorable argument, is because it is a half truth. Half truths tend to be simpler to understand, simpler to remember, and therefore they convince people easier.

With that out of the way, I did say 3 of his projects went right. Banjo, NIMH and Bartok, went VERY well.

>>148993024
post example

>>149003725
You replied to a troll, and now replied to me. You are mentally 12.

>>149003727
I'm not talking about fucking "cursed production" type shit like murders and suicides, I mean regular things going wrong with a film - unpolished scriptwriting, bad pacing/editing, going overbudget, falling behind schedule, etc.

>>149003731
The Secret of NIMH
>Budget $6.3-7 million
>Box office $14.7 million
An American Tail
>Budget $9 million
>Box office $84 million
The Land Before Time
>Budget $12.3 million
>Box office $84.5 million
All Dogs Go to Heaven
>Budget $13 million
>Box office $27.1 million
Rock-a-Doodle
>Budget $18 million
>Box office $11.6 million
Thumbelina
>Budget $28 million
>Box office $17 million
A Troll in Central Park
>Box office $71,368
The Pebble and the Penguin
>Budget $28 million
>Box office $3.9 million
Anastasia
>Budget $53 million
>Box office $140 million
Bartok the Magnificent
>Budget $24.8 million
Titan A.E.
>Budget $75–90 million
>Box office $36.8 million

>>149003788
This is a mild derailment, and mild whataboutism, but a lot of movies currently considered good went over budget. Like the first 3 Star Wars movies.

>>149003825
Anon, stop thinking like a robot (executive). I meant artistically. Those 3 movies were the only ones when the end result was almost entirely, or entirely, what Don wanted to make. Of course American Tail, Land Before Time and Anastasia made a lot of money. This is not about money.

>>149003827
most of the money SW makes comes from merchandise sales
shirts, toys, figures, costumes, etc

>>149003847
I guess responding with whataboutism to whataboutism is fair. Still you don't know shit if you think going overbudget meant anything, when it is very common in production of great movies.

>>148981006 (OP)
no. im a zoomer and i watched this movie over 400 times on dvd when i was a kid.

>>148981006 (OP)
Yes

>>148987388
probably cause it's dark like black hair. it's like someone with orange heir dying a strip blonde.

rockin sound track

>>148986127
I liked it, I was dreading him sticking with the group and being an annoying sidekick.

>>148989301
Sinbad is worth it for Eris, top evil goddess, no notes