what does /co/ think about webtoon?

>>148989026 (OP)
I don’t read anything written by women

>>148989026 (OP)
the average person on it seems very mentally ill

>>148989123
Retard

>>148989026 (OP)
Aint it mostly yaoi?

>>148989026 (OP)
most of it is really bad. a handful of stuff is good but would probably be better off on any other site/on its own website. very rarely do i see anything that makes good use of the vertical scrolling format vs traditional webcomic format. if you are not into fujo blslop or generic battle shonen the amount of interesting series drops significantly.

best webtoons i actually still subscribe to would be 3rd Voice, Wind Breaker (the one about bike racing), Skin and Bones, Pilgrim's Dirge and (gay but still) Strange and wild

I read Hero Killer.
That's all.

>>148989026 (OP)
It all mostly sucks, mainly because most of it is yaoi fujo shit or cheap manhwa, there are some good ones but theyre not as popular as they should be. I liked Griz Grobus, Farewell Fiamenetta, etc.

Also Stinz

>>148989026 (OP)
there are some gems

>>148989216
Technically, it's mostly shitty romance ., like how most literature thats talked about online is romantasy.

>>148989026 (OP)
It's a host site, you're gonna have to be more specific.
Anyway I think it's aight. My friend dabbled in publishing there. No I won't tell you what it is.

>>148989026 (OP)
I hates it forever.

>>148989026 (OP)
There's a lot of generic stuf, but theres also a lot of good webtoons outhere. Anons were trying to get a webtoon of the week discussion going but it didnt really take off

>>148990192
hopefully catgirl returns soon.

>>148990064
could you link to these? are they on canvas or original?

>>148989216
there is a decent amount but its mostly straight romacne aimed at women, and a lot of (reverse) isekai slop aimed at men.

>>148989216
If you want Yaoi webtoons, pay sites that more blatant about it are Toomics, Toptoon, and Selltoon.

>>148989026 (OP)
The format or LINE Webtoon?

>>148989026 (OP)
It's no different than other places where people post their comics in that there's a huge range of work from amateur to professional. But personally I hate webtoon for the vice grip it exerts to funnel people onto their platform and their content moderation policies which can be enforced in a very heavy handed way out of nowhere.

>>148989216
no but it should be

>>148989026 (OP)
Still kind of shocked the Koreans just waltzed in and soloed the entire webcomic industry.

>>148989026 (OP)
Hero Killer and One Step for the Demon Lord are amazing.

>>148989026 (OP)
Utter garbage.
Radioactive garbage at that, because it's probably what popularized the fucking "scrolling" viewer for sites.
But I digress, it's mostly Gook shit which means NTR slopdrama, with some blatant self insert fantasy.
Outside of cinema I don't think I've ever seen, or heard of, a decent piece done by Gooks. Their comics suck, their games suck, their books suck.
And for your knowledge, most of the stuff that doesn't suck was copied from Japan. South Korea is the devil child from the U.S.A. and Japan, inhereting the worst aspects from both and none of the good ones.

>>148990550
>Farewell Fiamenetta
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/farewell-fiammetta/list?title_no=952741
>Griz Grobus
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/griz-grobus-and-other-stories/list?title_no=741329

>>148989026 (OP)
Most of it is trash

>>148991033
It's surprise that Koreans utterly dominate the at least 60% of Japanese webcomics. Think only Japanese site of note is the Shounen Jump app. Otherwise the rest is Piccoma, LINE Manga, Comico, and Renta.

Manga is still Japanese.

>>148989026 (OP)
What is it?

>>148989026 (OP)
you mean gaytoons? LGBTQ@#$%toons? those fags should just buy tapas, lemoon, blocktoons, gaybit , heck I can just throw names here and itll probably land and stick. Every quirky-cozy-webcomic vomitive type art out there should be cast into a burning pyre, so we can be rid of it. The same applies to everything in the twitch 'art' section, everything is crawling with gay furry art, boylove, girllove bullshit, I dont want to read that shit. I cant even filter it because 'muh transphobia', Im sick of pretending all this garbage art is worth anything, its not cool, is boring and I dont care for it. Where is the ultraviolence? where is the action?

I hope one day an anti-webtoon site rises so I can at least filter all the garbage these people bring with it wherever they go, why dont they just lock themselves up in bluesky or whatever and throw away the key? Neither of us want to mingle so that would be the best outcome really.

T. a fucking frustrated Chud if it isnt obvious by now. Also fuck rarebit for bending the knee to the 'collective' , fuck all of you.

>>148989026 (OP)
The inevitable result of the normification of the internet. Webtoons is big because it appeals to a market that traditional webcomics, and even traditional print comics, never did. Normies. The lowest common denominator. And that turns out to be women who's prime motivator in a story is seeing characters snogging. And it isn't just here, either. Fantasy was once a genre for nerds, and look what's become of it. Literally nothing but Harlequin-level romance with some magic and sword fighting thrown in.

If you liked webcomics before Webtoons, it has very little to offer you. There is, by accident, the occasional good comic on the platform. Griz Grobus has been mentioned, Sword Interval is good as well. But the vast majority of the content on the platform is specifically designed to appeal to people who never appreciated comics.

>>148989026 (OP)
Koreans don't make good things
Sure that's hyperbole if you take it as an absolute, but in 99% of cases it's just how things are. It's not worth looking for the 1%

I also don't think this should be on /co/ given it's not western in origin.

i like "unordinary"

>>148991033
>>148991170

Idk about you guys but i personally think art and waifu shit really carry it, i genuinelt think most web-manwha are just kind of shit they all follow pretty much the same tropes and/or stupid aura farming stuff yet the art and action(of the more famous and obvioudly more "invested on" ones at least) is mostly high quality.

I fapped to Silent War and LOTNB is a guilty pleasure

But yeah, in an almost inverse of Isekai a whole lot of them involve a badass reincarting as a high schooler for some reason, others are MMO propaganda, either by turning real life into an MMO but with a gimmick or some SAO ripoff (these are the worst ones).

why are the search functions for these websites so fucking ass. webtoons. tapas. i search by latest updates in certain genres, but it doesn't seem convenient enough.

>>148992542
I do find it fun to compare Manga and Manhwa. Their takes on vengence are "interesting". The Japanese tend to have wronged characters tend let karma do the work. Korean characters tend to give karma a helping hand or play the long game like Edmond Dantes.

>>148991136
thanks.

What about stiz? Which one was in your image?

>>148991921
>If you liked webcomics before Webtoons, it has very little to offer you. There is, by accident, the occasional good comic on the platform. Griz Grobus has been mentioned, Sword Interval is good as well. But the vast majority of the content on the platform is specifically designed to appeal to people who never appreciated comics.

there are fairly decent amount of good comics on the site. Even from the koreans

>>148992010
>i like "unordinary"
its surprisingly good for something that I thought would be generic

I like:
>The Boxer(best one)
>Terror Man(season 2 is so ass)
>Lookism(it's not actually about lookism, it gets really generic about Korean highschool gangs but i still like it)
>and Jungle Juice

Any other cool ones?

>>148992777
Japanese love long game revenge too, most of their historical folktales are about samurai going on elaborate Edmond Dantes multi year plans to avenge their master, then they commit seppuku after achieving said revenge

>>148989026 (OP)
A buncha Femcels and neets.
>>148990192
She's the only exception.

>>148993424
>>The Boxer(best one)

The ending was terrible. The reveal that J, the golden haired boxer is secretly Jesus Christ who boxes people is completely out of nowhere with zero foreshadowing.
It was clearly planned, but it felt like an asspull.

>>148993424
>>Lookism(it's not actually about lookism, it gets really generic about Korean highschool gangs but i still like it)
It was about lookism at first, but the genre gradually shifted (since it became a cash cow for the author).

>>148993388
Stinz is actually an old print comic about a Centaur from a semi-hidden race of German Centaurs in some German country fighting in some alternate World War 1.

I actuallt found it on accident because i saw it on some War comic/ alt history thread and they started mentioning something about meteors mutating people into elves and shit like in shadowrun and was looking for places to read it and it turns out it was just on webtoon

>Stinz
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/stinz/list?title_no=335943

>>148993502
The author seems to insert tons of religious themes in his comics for some reason, but oh well it was a good one

>>148989026 (OP)

>>148993388
>Which one was in your image?

Farewell Fiamenetta, fantastical adventures in fantastical alternate medieval Italy, Iit's actually farely recent and the first "arc" just finished The guy in the photo is a witch hunter who unlocked the power of saint armor, he's actually a good guy

>>148993608
Rockababy looks interesting so fae, how gay does it get?

>>148993602
>The author seems to insert tons of religious themes in his comics for some reason, but oh well it was a good one

My issue isn't the religous themes, my issue is that it just came across as a religious tract/propaganda the way it was used in the ending.
BAM out of nowhere the MC finds jesus and gets hope in his life.
We aren't shown anything about J before his chapter to indicate this, even though he's around for most of the story.

it's a very heavy handed metaphor and its clearly coming from a devout christian. It either should have been made subtler, or there should have been more hints earlier on.

J is barely a character at all in the story, and more a deus ex machina, with how little characterization and showtimes he's given. Maybe they could've thrown in a joke about him being a carpenter.

>>148993608
How can we add to this list of recommended? Do we just suggest them to you?

>>148993836
Basically he's treated as a something mysterious and unknowable, rather than the human son of god.
Disclaimer: i was never christian (and I read the bible a long time ago), so maybe the metaphor/ending works well for them.

>>148993592
Weird, that seems to be an official upload. I have no idea if thats all of the comics, or if some werent uploaded.

given that its probably a classic panel based comic, itd probably be bette rto read it in a different format

>>148993850
You can suggest things
These are mostly an approximation because the selections are based on what was recommended the most in all the archived threads I could find. And since we rarely have Webtoons threads there isn't must data to go off of.
I also tried to omit anything that was too anime leaning since this is a /co/ themed list and Webtoons have started uploading manga to their platform.

>>148993676
From what I can remember, it does have gay characters but that's not the focus. The main plot of the comic is aliens trying not to be discovered by the government in 1950s America.

>>148994617
I'd definitely recommend adding Catgirl, since that's popular around here.

It doesn't have many chapters out currently and was on hiatus for a while, but the creator is apparently working on bringing it back.

>>148994661
I think that would be a good one to add
The list was made before /co/ started checking out Catgirl but I've definitely seen it discussed enough that it should be there

>>148993608
>>148994697
Wait how old is that list? I've never seen rockababy discussed in the archives.

>>148994704
It's a few months old.
If you search Rockababy on desuarchive there's a few recommendations but like I said there's not a lot of webtoon discussion to begin with. /co/ has also been interested in the authors other work Camp Counselor Jason and their upcoming project Slasher U.

>>148994816
/co/ has been talking about catgirl for at least a year or two. there's been way more discussion of it than rockababy.

Not ur fault if you were unaware of that or missed the discussions.

>>148989026 (OP)
KSlop

>>148989026 (OP)
It's mostly rule breaking if it's asian

>>148991033
I dunno how webcomics before them could even make money.

>>148989026 (OP)
Most of them suck. Every once in awhile something okay pops up. The platform is horrible, though. Ripping to cbz/cbr is the way

>>148993608
>>148994816
I've actually read a bunch of these, but never/rarely seen discussion of them on /co/. In part it might be because, like ya said, webtoon/webcomic discussion is pretty rare.

I dont rememeber if i ever saw The little trashmaid, love advice from the great duke of hell, family man, or super secret mentioned on /co/.
I don't remember much of family man, since i think i read it 6 or more years ago. but otherwise they were all interesting, though they're all fairly different from eachother.

I've seen lavender jack mentioned on here, and room of swords mentioned on here. But they didnt get much discussion sadly. Hooky got more discussion than those 2, but I haven't seen it brought up much.
This reminds me that I do have to finish lavender jack at some point.
Room of swords was better towards the start, but it suffered because its a complex story and webtoon's editorial team forced them to reduce 5 seasons to 3.
I'll suggest some other ones to you, and you can check them out and decide whether to add them to your list.

>>148991033
>Still kind of shocked the Koreans just waltzed in and soloed the entire webcomic industry.
its in part probably because the companies had actual funding, and they were competing with indie groups

>>148995002
Marionetta was discussed on /co/ because they wanted to fuck the mad scientist not-a-nazi girl

>>148993429
That reminds me there is an ongoing Japanese webtoon heavily inspired by The Count Monte Cristo. I think the English name is "Noble's Revenge".

>>148993502
I think I've seen a manhwa even more bizarre than that. It was about more or less One Punch Man fights eldritch horror Jesus. I can't for the life of me remember the title and it was from the 90's.

I've only used it to read Da Yomanville Gang and that got really boring real quick, read Tower of God on it till I swapped to fan translations to not be behind a shit ton of chapters.

>>148993424
That's seems just limited to LINE Webtoons. Are you aware Naver/LINE Webtoon just one of the many Webtoon companies? Their largest rival is Kakao. There are other companies like Toomics, Lezhin Comics, and Toomics. I there's a French Webtoon site called Delitoon and has translated Kakao webtoons and there's also a webtoon version of Last Man.

>>148995846
>I think I've seen a manhwa even more bizarre than that. It was about more or less One Punch Man fights eldritch horror Jesus. I can't for the life of me remember the title and it was from the 90's.
The boxer isn't that weird of a story, it's just the ending feels like an asspull.

It's a "relatively" grounded martial arts (well specifically boxing) series aside from that. It's not super realistic, but its not lookism where you have some characters chopping metal safes in half with their bare hands.

>>148995931
Damn, I meant Comico.

>>148995934
The genre shift for Lookism is be more understandable when you look into PTJ's past. He was born into low class household, read Shounen Jump manga, wanted to be a comic artist, bullied at high school until he moved to another school, became a Kpop star with his group, give that up when webtoons became thing, and started Lookism. Since then Lookism became a start of shared universe based on minor characters that appeared in the comic, like Manager Kim.

>>148996052
The boxer didn't really have a genre shift. It's was just a brief part in the ending that complete comes out of nowhere.

As for lookism, I think the genre shift is because shonen style gang fights is more profitable than the original story and he can milk it for longer.
The earlier chapters had a lot more horror or thriller elements.

>>148994617
>You can suggest things
>These are mostly an approximation because the selections are based on what was recommended the most in all the archived threads I could find. And since we rarely have Webtoons threads there isn't must data to go off of.
>I also tried to omit anything that was too anime leaning since this is a /co/ themed list and Webtoons have started uploading manga to their platform.

Should I explain my recomendations or just give a list of webtoon names/links?

>>148996183
I know there's a korean webtoon wiki as a wiki just for LINE Webtoons.

>>148996445
Thats for the korean ones translated to english. I was going to recomend english originals.


should we recomend korean ones as well?

>>148989123
fpbp

>>148989247
>very rarely do i see anything that makes good use of the vertical scrolling format
I'm the grim reaper made use of it sometimes

>>148994617
>>148993608
Should you sort the recomendations by genre or elaborate a little on them?

>>148989026 (OP)
Lots of slop but once in a while you see actual cool stuff like stag town

>>148989026 (OP)
never heard of it.

>>148996711
Watch out unc, don't want to break your back hunched over like that while typing.

>>148996485
I think the LINE Webtoon wiki also has English originals. The Korean Webtoons has a lot of webtoons from different companies and some of them never got English translations.

>>148996183
You can just give a list of names and I'll check them out

>>148996519
I might do this but I can't guarantee. I mostly was basing mine off of the other /co/ recommends images.

>>148995706
People have also discussed it because the same author wrote Hooky