Can he exist in the modern cultural climate?

Seems like a relic of the 70’s to 80’s, when movies like deathwish, taxi driver and Dirty Harry were popular because crime in cities was so out of control so the idea of murderous vigilantes was outright tolerated by the mainstream (even in real life)

Nowadays seems like the opposite. Also for some reason people want to abandon him because groups they don’t like adopt his symbol. Not logic I understand but that’s the logic they use (why cede ground on a popular symbol?) with his skull being used by cops and such.

If anything I find it annoying that he’s now had multiple issues where he has to talk directly to cops to tell them he doesn’t like heckin fanboys and nobody should be like him, now going into his show even. As if those cops even read comics lol

He's literally getting a new series this year

>>149004541
Only because chudcels keep sending death threats

>>149004521 (OP)
>Seems like a relic of the 70’s to 80’s
His most beloved and critically acclaimed series was in the 2000s.

>>149004521 (OP)
They'd make it very obvious that he's shooting up hoods for landlords and property development concerns, I guess?

>>149004521 (OP)
Sure. Why do comics have to exist in a contemporary period anyway? Just have Punisher comics take place in the 80s when it makes more sense. And if not, it's all just fantasy anyway.

>>149004541
>the overton window shifting to the right makes marvel go back to 80s street crime Punisher
always look on the bright side I guess

>>149004551
Shut up tranny

>>149004521 (OP)
yes, just make him racist and hunt down black gang members.

>>149004818
In your dreams

>>149004827
yes

>glamorizing vigilantes when Marvel's ideal consumer base is rioting nationwide in response to immigration laws being upheld

>>149004541
I hope Frank gets raped by a large black man.

>>149004521 (OP)
>could a guy who kills criminals exist in a time where everyone is fucking sick of criminals
Questions only stupid people ask.

>>149004901
Shut up homo

>>149004521 (OP)
>If anything I find it annoying that he’s now had multiple issues where he has to talk directly to cops to tell them he doesn’t like heckin fanboys and nobody should be like him, now going into his show even. As if those cops even read comics lol
That's pretty much it with this whole thing.
Constant catering to people that don't read comics getting a voice/being talked down to.
No one needs the moralizing, go back to having him shooting up bangers and mafioso.
Literally isn't that deep.

>>149004926
Don't worry. He would pretty Frank up before he does the deed.

>>149004901

>>149005066
>responding to AdventurePedo

>>149004521 (OP)
I dont understand why people dont like him anymore. Violence is a good thing especially in these times

>>149006284
>I dont understand why people dont like him anymore.
because cops and neonazis like him(they don't read comics, they just like the symbol)

>>149006339
Then why doesnt marvel sue people who besmirch the symbol or i dunno try to reclaim it the same way gays reclaimed faggot or blacks with nigger

>>149006349
easier to shit up the character than chasing people around with frivolous lawsuits that go nowhere for years and likely end with the symbol being considered public domain since its a simple skull

>>149005096
Stop projecting

>>149005041
>>149004521 (OP)
Cop boot lickers crying because your daddy thinks you’re a fag

Any comfy storytimes?

>>149006426
>Not listening to the Hulk
Absolute madlad.

>>149006382
Stop being weird, man.

How do people keep trying to act like the punisher is dated and yet he gets all the best parts of the daredevil shows

>>149004638
This would be a great idea.

>>149006426
Who cuts the punishers hair?

>>149004574
>His most beloved and critically acclaimed series was in the 2000s.
When did Garth Ennis write the better War Journal of the late 80s?

Can't wait to mod him into gta 6

>>149004541
I wonder how they'll dance around the issue of blacks doing crime whilst Frank hunts criminals

At least in the 80s you had cocaine traffickers and Iranians to fight

>>149007676
Imagine if they just went full based

>>149004541
No Ennis, no read.

>>149007676
Just have him fight mobsters.

>>149008556
Should be cartels

>>149007676
they'll just ignore it. new york is 20% black and spider-man has one black villain, and he's a fucking albino

>>149008855
Rocket Racer?

>>149007676
I wouldn't care.

>>149008876
they keep making him a hero

>>149004521 (OP)
>Can he exist in the modern cultural climate?
Have him shoot ICE now and again, it'll be fjne.

>>149008876
Rocket Racer is too cool a concept to stay a villain
Unlike fucking big wheel or some shit

>>149008855
Is Cardiac still a villain?

>>149007681
Silence, polfag

>>149004521 (OP)
Depends
Can he exist in the minds of the Alt Left where any sort of authority to keeping society functional = bad? No
Can he exist in the modern day among mondern, normal humans? Yes

Punisher is perfectly fine. He's no different to Batman or any other superhero with no superpowers

>>149009056
But anon, many ICE officers are Latino. That'd be racist.

>>149009242
>modern, normal humans want psychopaths
Lucky that amerisharts aren't normal at all.

>>149009225
He never was
>Uhhh be he went after CEOs
Hero shit

>>149004521 (OP)
Yes? It sucks idiots have co-opted his symbol but it's not like Frank can't be under a good writer.

>>149009273
>It sucks idiots have co-opted his symbol
Get over it, geek.

>>149009267
>Punisher is Italian-American like based Luigi Mangioni
We have a book everyone will love.

>>149009267
If he was never a villain, why'd Spider-Man beat him up?

>>149009301
raimi wrote those issues

>>149004521 (OP)
>Also for some reason people want to abandon him because groups they don’t like adopt his symbol.

I thought it was also because he targets them. Pic related are just your average BLM fiery but mostly peaceful protesters. The Punisher's like that Kyle kid who shot a couple of protesting pedo felons and that makes him a bad guy. Somehow.

>>149009621
Now we know why the character is so toxic.

>>149004521 (OP)
Terrorists are burning American cities down right GOD damned now you limp wristed faggot. We need the Punisher. We need every loyal American to be the Punisher.

>>149009621
>>149009753

>>149004521 (OP)
Even the gods accept the Punisher....
At least the Norse Pantheon!

>>149009753
>people are breaking the law so we should all become mass murderers in response
maybe you should bottle the cities since you're clearly a real brainiac

>>149009753
Who?

>>149009753
>We need every loyal American to be the Punisher
You first, kid.

>>149009809
>t. black pedo

>>149004521 (OP)
Yeah, average Americans like me not from LA or NYC are virtually the same as we've ever been. Every generation says faggots and niggers and retards, the woke thing isn't a reality aside from people who don't fit in anyway and will probably move to the coast after their parents pay for art school or whatever

>>149009853
>average Americans like me are genetically inferior beings
We know.

>>149008556
The mob is nothing but out of shape old ginzos

>>149010236
>have him fight actual gangs in america today
>marvel employees get abducted and beheaded on film
Especially considering they all live in Cali

>>149009816
Would the greek pantheon even have a problem with him? Achilles was venerated for killing a bunch of people in war that started for really stupid reasons

>>149010983
Ares wanted him as his avatar/champion

>>149004638
To prevent themselves from becoming dated period pieces when that was never their original intent.

>>149007676
They'll just have him go after white/Asian/Spanish criminals.

>>149004521 (OP)
Just have him take on mobsters like he's always done - no one gives a shit about the mafia

>>149011030
>Spanish
Not with the recent immigration shitstorms. Even if the criminals he goes after aren't really Mexican, it's all Mexico to Marvel and Xitter/Bluesky.

>>149006349
Good luck winning a lawsuit against the police

>>149007676
They'll dance around it the same way they've been doing so for like 40 years.
The only times I can really think of them addressing it is a couple times in MAX.

>>149009273
This, the chudcels appropriated his symbol. We need more store showing he doesn’t tolerate chuddies

Why can't the chudcels have a hero? they a lot of hero for gays, feminist, disable people and etc. give some for chudcels.

>>149012003
but they already have one? he's called Spider-man.

>>149012003
There's Kick-Ass (Comic book version, Specifically Volume 1)
>Tries to stop a group of black youths from graffiting a wall in his first attempt at being a superhero
>attacks them unprovoked and proceeds to get his ass kicked (which gave him the inspiration for his name)
>Simps for a really beautiful white girl and pretends to be gay just to get close to her
>tells her he's not actually gay thinking he's going to get laid
>white girl tells her black boyfriend to beat him up and later sends him a photo of her giving her black boyfriend a blowjob

>>149012757
lol

>>149012808

>>149012757
>>149012808
>>149012820
this man goes on to be well-respected and beloved once the supervillain cabal controlling the planet/multiverse gets taken down btw

>>149009225
I'm just fucking amazed you know who Cardiac is

>>149012928
Hence why I specified Volume 1, kick-ass past volume 1 (maybe 2) really fucking sucks, hence why the movie sequel bombed hard and killed the franchise

>>149004521 (OP)
Castle wouldn't care.

i feel like too many people in the thread assume Frank has an understandable motive or reasoning besides "kill all criminals", he's not based or woke, he's just a lunatic who's really fun to read

>>149007676

>>149013073
The only response to a crazy society is to become crazy innit

The Punisher #93 ("The Killing Streets") is probably my favorite single-issue story of all time. It's the closest we'll ever get to an Astro City style Punisher story.

The Punisher: War Zone #1-6 ("War Zone") is a great action story with The Punisher going undercover in the mafia to get closer to his targets. It seems to have influenced both the Ennis run and the Thomas Jane movie.

The Punisher #45 ("One Way Fare") has The Punisher operating a "gypsy cab" (an unlicensed taxi cab) to lure out a serial killer.

The Punisher: War Journal #39 ("Slay Ride!") has The Punisher buried under a landslide inside of a bus with the other passengers. One of them is a serial killer. Frank has to survive, protect the other passengers, identify the killer, and escape before they freeze.

The Punisher #89-92 ("Fortress: Miami") has The Punisher infiltrating a Miami under martial law to kill a drug kingpin. Art by the legendary Russ Heath and one of the dopest endings ever.

The Punisher: War Zone #26-30 ("Conan with a Gun"). John Buscema draws The Punisher in the closest thing you'll find to an old "men's pulp mag" style action-adventure story to come out of 90s Marvel.

The Punisher: War Zone #31-36 ("River of Blood"). The Punisher in war-torn Eastern Europe with art by Joe Kubert. One of the most MAX-esque Punisher stories from the pre-MAX era.

The Punisher #49 ("Death Below Zero"). The Puisher rescues a hostage from ransomers. But his getaway goes HORRIBLY wrong. Now he's in the wilderness during a blizzard with no supplies and no ammo and being chased by the (armed) criminals whose plans he just foiled.

The Punisher #8-9 ("The Ghost of Wall Street" / "Insider Trading"). The Punisher investigates insider trading on Wall Street. Yes, really. One of the most action-packed Punisher stories ever. Absolutely full of twists and turns.

The Punisher #77-79 ("Survival"). The Punisher survives a plane crash in Alaska with not even the clothes on his back. Fights a bear with a stick.

>>149016665
Sounds like incel crap

>>149017696
Sorry Frank's not a social worker.

>>149013863
I laughed for a minute straight reading that. Its the thanks he gets for saving his life lol

>>149004521 (OP)
this, plus
What ever happened to femme fatales? I mean like selina kyle in the 90s or black cat in the 80s

I mean femme fatales and villain femme fatales.