Why do liberal trannies have such a hard time accepting that KoTH is a conservative show not for them. They always bring up the same "but much John Redcorn is based" argument like the joke wasn't that John was just a piece of shit. Just because it doesn't resemble alt right extremist that doesn't mean it's not a conservative show at its core.

idk i dont th8nk thats entirely true. there was an aspect to koth which was critical of american conservatism. hank won a refreshing number of battles, but he lost many too. the show was good and balanced and it made good points.
but watch the pilot. the pitch video judge sent to the execs. it's meant to make fun of people like hank. even if it was subterfuge to get rootless cosmopolitans to greenlight his show.
NOW though sure. koth is 100% conservative teetering on being extreme far right all because it does less than kowtow to the almighty gays at every oppurtunity.

>>149027220
yeah a big part of the show is that Hank is doesn't always realize the way he's getting screwed, and the way the nationalism that's been pounded into him since childhood blinds him to outlooks he dismisses out of hand.

the most important scene in the show is the one where he's naked and chooses to cover his junk with a cactus over letting a texan flag be besmirched by his dick. It's the real nugget of his problem.

He's a good guy, to be clear, and he's ultimately willing to accept a lot of things he doesn't understand (which is the real mark of a good person) but even as the show is often a celebration of many of the cultural markers of conservatism, he shouldn't be taken as a uncomplicated conservative hero

>>149027110 (OP)
That's because they need total control. Their whole "just leave people be" really means "leave us alone as we take control".

Why do people think about liberals

Maybe people get confused because modern conservatives don't look or act anything like Hank Hill.

one of the first conversations in the first episode of king of the hill is about climate change and how dale is a fucking idiot for thinking its fake

its not a liberal show but it isn't the deep red hard conservative show you think it is

>>149027110 (OP)
Is there a specific incident you're referring to? Is there some YouTuber who made a video essay to spur this on? Cause I don't think I've ever seen any terminally online liberals getting mad about KoTH. In fact, KoTH is often used as a comparison of "conservative cartoons done right" when talking directly about stuff like Mr. Birchum. Though, "done right" is kind of used insultingly because they really just mean that they can ignore the conservatism if they want to because it's not in your face, which is a bit ironic.

>>149028033
This. If anything, Hank would be odd man out amongst conservatism these days. He wouldn't subscribe at all to the notion that us winning means you must loose. Nor that anyone wouldn't have a right to try and pursue a life of happiness in America simply because of some paperwork they lack, much less shipping them of to goddam El Salvador

>>149028096
Shut up libshit

>>149027282
>the episode where Hank hurts his back and goes to yoga classes with Johnny Depp as the insane instructor
>by the end he's happy to ditch the guy and his studio, but keeps doing the actual yoga routines because he finds they legitimately help him
>even starts teaching them to fellow Strickland employees, giving them Texan themed names, to boot
Hank's always been the guy who cuts through all the bullshit of life and utilizes what actually works for him or the situation at hand. If it works, it's another tool on his belt he can use, and if it doesn't, he simply dismisses it.

>>149028109
History will not look kindly upon you. Remember that fact, anon.

>>149028201
keep telling yourself that.

>>149028096
>Nor that anyone wouldn't have a right to try and pursue a life of happiness in America simply because of some paperwork they lack, much less shipping them of to goddam El Salvador
Lmao, yeah sure, 90s conservative just loved illegal immigration

>>149028177
>Hank's always been the guy who cuts through all the bullshit of life and utilizes what actually works for him or the situation at hand. If it works, it's another tool on his belt he can use, and if it doesn't, he simply dismisses it.
A lot of people don't even know what conservatism is. For the record, this is conservatism, to keep what works and being skeptical of accepting things just because they're new (which is what progressiveness is).

>>149027110 (OP)
Its just a show. Often even mocking the values of both sides, and with viewpoints you may view as one side or another being in the right end the end, never just one way.

Loke the sex ed epispde, where they were very conservative about wanting their kid to learn sex ed in school, and by the end showing you should teach it.
Or the baseball bejng more inclusive for Bobby episode, where mosr of the episode was them saying Bobby should get a fair amount of time in the game but in the end a more conservative view of prioritizing those who better at the game over just giving everyone a shot helped save bobby from embarassing himself at the game.

Or the election episode whwre we spend all the time talking about how you should view the candidate's talking points and values and not just defaulting to some single side or vanity reason, but that all gets put into question when Hank's candidate has a shitty handshake.

yes, the show that makes fun of right wing conspiracy theorists by making them the biggest cuck in the show is good.

>>149028201
>>149028392
Forget history. The present already hates you, or has written you off completely.

>>149028610
The fact that you think they're making fun of Dale by making him a cuck says more about you, you dumb bitch.

>>149027282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F34F7oAwmQc

>>149027110 (OP)
there was an episode about drag queens and how they accepted peggy at first because she was so ugly they thought she was a man in drag, but in the end its all ok because they saw drag as enpowering to not only trans women but real women like peggy because it's better to stand out like cher instead of being a faceless stacy.

it was pretty hard conservative in the first two seasons.

>>149028789
okay dale

>>149029052
But Kahn's introduction episode showed Hank was wrong to distrust him for being foreign

>>149029052
The episode where the fundie cunt tried to ruin Halloween with her Christian propaganda was in season 2.

Take a look at the subset aesthetics of the show for a moment. Its got little to no swearing, and sometimes you can go multiple episodes without even hearing a crude word. How often do you see that in television today? The show is mild mannered in its grossout, violence and sex content, while tackling some pretty mature themes with a certain responsibility of safety to the viewers perspectives, a certain grace that is completely lacking from everything coming out these days. The closest comparison for this type of show with the way it handles mature topics and how to display it would be Bojack Horseman, and that show really doesn’t come as close to the subtle maturity of King of the Hill when representing different viewpoints without stomping on one side. In fact, King of the Hill often doesn’t have a complete winner of the story. Sometimes it’s just left to the viewer to decide what they want to feel about the topics brought up. Can you really point to many shows that handle sensitive and contentious topics with real care while at the same time deconstructing and arguing against real world views a viewer or person might hold? It just leaves breathing room for actual dignity, as though the viewer is literally in the writing room, and can walk away from the episode with some gained perspective or contentness to simply agree to disagree. It’s an actual real treat to see a mostly respectful show of not just the content it provides, but the context it frames it in.

Unfortunately in all likelihood the sequel isn’t going to live up to expectations.

>>149027110 (OP)
The joke about John Redcorn is that he is a hypocrite who is resentful about white people and what they did to his people in the past but at the same time he cannot resist aspects of white people culture like new age medicine, small business enterprise, and most critically: he cannot resist white women. John Redcorn is everything that he hates and he struggles with it throughout the show.

Lol this poster hasn't watched king of the hill, a gay show with many gay characters and subtext
>durr what is subtext
Read a book, fatneck

I've never understood why Hank acts so afraid of affection. He doesn't like being hugged, holding hands with his wife, or any sexual attraction to anything. The presence of a porn mag seems to scare him.
Is Hank a Mennonite?

>>149030195
He's slightly Autistic.

>>149027110 (OP)
why do conservative idiots not understand that the caricatures that make fun of liberals are stereotypes?
why do conservatives not understand that liberals are not leftists?
why do conservatives not understand that leftists support gun rights?

why do conservatives ignore how the voice actor for john redcorn was a gay guy that got murdered?

>>149028610
>all conspiracy theoriests are right wing
>capitalist ruling class controlling the economy cannot be a conspiracy theory
>doesn't realize the phrase "conspiracy theory" was made up by the CIA
>9/11 being an inside job actually proves a false flag was used to start racist wars against brown people in the middle east
>doesn't understand that 19 hijackers controlled by one guy in a cave is a conspiracy theory

Rightoids will piss and moan about muh politics in media and then when a show is non-partisan, will declare that it's conservative.

>>149030348
Conservatives don't separate liberal and leftist because the US Two Party system lumps them together as an active political power, same as Alt-Right and Mitt Romney Types getting lumped together because they vote together from the left's perspective.
Also even within leftist circles the gun shit is a annoying talking point because the real biggest difference between the modern right and left is that the Right is willing to put aside its differences to win while the left breaks down into purity spirals.

>>149030195
my brother is like that.
I make big nude paintings and he completely avoids my studio.

Would Hank tell Joseph the truth if Dale, Nancy and John Redcorn all died?

>>149028095
>>149028574
It's sounding more like OP invented someone to get mad at. The show doesn't fit neatly into the braindead culture war binary and people who try to "claim" it like OP is doing seem to be more interested in tribal shitflinging instead of actually watching the show.

>>149030551
No, Hank avoids emotional confrontations when a convenient lie is easier and more pleasant.

There are a few episodes in the final two seasons where Hank is a little too conservative and the liberal strawmen are too ridiculous. Completely uncritical "Hank is right, the libs are wrong" with no nuance at all and it makes both him and the writers look like retards. But for at least 10 seasons they did a really good job of not going full "us vs them" and there is never a point where Hank is a proud REPUBLICAN who CRUSHES the DEMTRANNIES.
I actually feel bad for the retards who are so poisoned by culture war brainrot that they can't enjoy KotH without thinking about (((THEM))) and if the show is "on their side" or not.

>>149027110 (OP)
If you think KOTH is conservative, you missed the point entirely. Sometimes, Hank is in the right. Sometimes, he's in the wrong. It's just his quirky life in Texas. There's even times where Hank will be in the right or wrong on the same issue but in different episodes because the show is generally pretty neutral and life is just like that sometimes depending on the context.

>>149028486
>Lmao, yeah sure, 90s conservative just loved illegal immigration
Yeah. 90s was still running off the high of Reagan, which Hank Hill is a known fan of. It wasn't until the later 2000s that "amnesty" became a dirty word. Before, it was still belief in the American Dream for any and all individuals, viewing the countries and the businessmen who exploited them to be to blame, not the people seeking a better life. It's a stark contrast with today, where illegals get deported to the Stone Block of Unending Dehumanization and Despair, while the people who exploit them just get a slap on the wrist and told to exploit teenagers instead.

Hell, the very idea that Hank Hill would vote for a guy from New York and wear a red cap is just unthinkable

>>149028096
Hank was odd man out for conservatives in his own world and at the time. He’s a massive nerd.

>>149027110 (OP)
>replaces long time white voice actor for non-white character, giving in to the racialist trend
Whatever about the original show (that was already over the hill when it ended), the revival is definitely tainted by the zeitgeist

>>149027110 (OP)
They can't handle that sharing could be conservative and not be evil that conservatives can make good art or their entire worldview collapses.

>KOTH
>Conservative

Early Hank was less liberal but the show was always liberal. It's just that a lot of stuff was self-censored in those days. Not everyone could do what SP could

>>149030922
I know someone who is thoroughly convinced King of the Hill is “right wing propaganda” cause a lot of of the liberal antagonists are elitist and hypocritical. And freely admits he’s never watched an episode since he was ten, and refuses to watch another to see if he’s even right.

It wouldn’t be so bothersome if anytime i mention the show to mutual friends he butts in to remind us he hates King of the Hill and how it’s “right wing propaganda”. And I figure that’s where a lot of people who dismiss it as conservative come front, the people who got filtered out by the fact Hank is not a blustering stereotypical Texan conservative bellowing his lungs out about Mexicans and firing his hunting rifle into the air while downing a beer, but a generally mild-mannered suburban dad who normally follows “live and let live” until it’s something personal that he can’t process or accept.

>>149030891
>There are a few episodes in the final two seasons where Hank is a little too conservative and the liberal strawmen are too ridiculous. Completely uncritical "Hank is right, the libs are wrong" with no nuance at all
This is the situation in the pilot episode and it was great. People like that scrawny know-it-all dweeb from Child Protective Services exist.

>>149027110 (OP)
Liberals and conservatives today aren't even comparable to liberals and conservatives during the 90s. Conservatives were the Christian family values party back then. Neither side liked nazis. J.K. Rowling and Trump are 90s liberal; Trump was a registered Democrat.

>>149027110 (OP)
Not everything has to fit strictly into a left or right box. What a sad way to look at the world and what a limited way to experience aTV show.

>>149027110 (OP)
>KOTH
>political
It's just about Hank being a naive goofball and Mike Judge cracking jokes about Texans. There's no greater message behind it.