Would you watch a Spider-man cartoon with these 4 as leads?

>>149032824 (OP)
I'm an adult, im not watching a new Spiderman cartoon.

>>149032838
Nothing wrong with watching cartoons as an adult anon.

I simply refuse to engage with any Spider-Man media that has any Spidershit ripoffs bogging down the real Spider-Man

>>149032960
This. Fucking this. You literally can't have any new Spider-shit unless Miles is gonna poke his no personality having ass in.

>>149032960
Doesn't it get boring watching a series that just rehashes the same Spider-man storylines because the focus is largely on Peter?

>>149033003
Not when done well, clearly, no. Peter Parker is a timeless character, one who works perfectly fine without sidekicks. In fact, arguably because he doesn't have sidekicks and must do much of the superhero work alone. That's just another thing which the spinoff spiders dilute

>>149032824 (OP)
No, and I'd also like to point out that the Photoshop defaul settings emboss job on that Spider-Boy logo is shameful.

>>149032824 (OP)
A Spider-Man show should only have one Spider-Man. Any more and you make him feel ordinary and boring in his own show.

>>149033003
Funny how this complaint didn't exist or even cross anyone's mind for the 50 years of Spider-Man's existence before they made the idpol Spider-Men, and also how it's exclusively parroted by kids who read and watched far more Spider-Rangers media than solo Spider-Man media (let's be real they haven't read shit) and also how it only applies to Spider-Man specifically whereas other solo characters who existed for centuries don't have this problem like Dracula, Tarzan, Sherlock Holmes, Conan etc

>>149033132
This issue with this was that every Spider person wasn't just Spider-man. Every Spider person was Peter Parker. They were all smart and went to the same school making Peter less special any regard. A show with multiple Spider people could work fine if you actually focus on what makes them different and highlight their different civilian lives. A show with Peter as an experience Spider-man and adult, Miles as the relatively new Spider-man whose still in High school. Silk as... well I don't know enough about Silk to honestly say but I don't think she's meant to be super smart and Spider-boy as the youngest Spider hero. The most important aspect of the show should be showing how they all support one another.

>>149032824 (OP)
I'm so fucking tired of alternate Spideys at this point. Just give me Peter. Miles is boring, Gwen (as Spider-Ghost) is boring and Jessica is boring. Hell I'd even take Mayday.

>>149033204
Because we live in an age where more media is being produced than ever. Within 13 years there have been 3 separate iterations of Spider-man movies and 5 Spider-man cartoons. How many Dracula, Tarzan, Sherlock and Conan movies/tv shows has their been since then?

>>149033228
Before the age of idpol, such characters wouldn't have Spider-Man's powerset. Maybe they'd have another animal theme like a bird or an insect, something tailored to their character and struggles. They wouldn't be spiders, because why would they be? We already have Spider-Man.

>>149032824 (OP)
6 captain americas
8 hulks
9 thors
7 iron man
please stop

>>149033279
There have been a total of three modern live action Peter Parkers, we've had FIVE live action Batmen with another one in the works and somehow everyone's fine with it without demanding Batman constantly be surrounded by colorswap Batmen, hell only one of them had a Robin that showed up and Robin's been part of the story since the early days and is an actual separate character and not just an idpol colorswap

>>149033003
You mean how the constantly rehash Miles needing to prove he's just as much a Spider-Man as Peter? Pull your head out of your ass.

>>149033336
I don't think that's identity politics that is doing that considering John Stewart has existed since the 70s.

>>149032824 (OP)
No. Fuck off.

>>149033406
See the issue here is that you think I want them to do that with Miles again when I don't.

>>149032893
Ok manchild

>>149033408
No, John Stewart is definetly a product of idpol.

>>149033419
Too bad, cause that's all they're gonna do. If they weren't, they'd let Miles play in his own seperate universe. But no, every new Spider-Man, they gotta pull up Miles to remind us that he exists and is TOTALLY A REAL SPIDER-MAN!!

>>149032824 (OP)
No.

>>149033433
So when did the age of identity politics actually start?

Spider-Man already has a rich supporting cast and doesn't need to be surrounded with people who are just slightly different flavours of him. Same deal with Batman, Superman, and every other hero sitting amidst twenty different versions of themselves these days.

>>149033458
Miles is in the 616 because he was popular than his own universe. As much I'm generally indifferent to his current run, they've done a good enough job at not focusing on whether or not he deserves the title of Spider-man.

>>149032838
>>149033430
Eat shit faggot.

>>149032824 (OP)
Fuck no. I want Peter Parker.

>>149033539
>because he was popular than his own universe
No he wasn't, he was doing ass tier numbers, on par with the Ultimates which got deleted from existence for underperforming

>As much I'm generally indifferent to his current run, they've done a good enough job at not focusing on whether or not he deserves the title of Spider-man.
Every single time he appears in something new, that's the first, second, and third storyline they do with him, hell that's what they did in the new Ultimate Spider-Man, his sole reason for existence is to say "even a BLACK guy can be Spider-Man" over and over again

>>149033581
>The exaggerated swagger of a Black Spider-Man

>>149033581

Alright, so the show is only Peter but it can't use anything prior to the 2000s, would you watch it?

>>149032824 (OP)
>Would you watch more Spider-Verse shit?
No.

>>149033691
Does that just mean not adapting any pre-2000s stories or does it also mean not using any pre-2000s characters besides Peter himself? If it's just stories, probably not but I can't say definitely not. If it's also characters, fuck no.

>Mile Morales needs the entire multiverse just to be propped up and stay relevant

>>149032824 (OP)
Noir, Ham, and Peni in an Inspector Gadget parody.

>>149032893
everything wrong with watching cartoons as an adult anon.

>>149033602
>wheres poochie?
>wheres poochie?
>wheres poochie?

>>149033602
This is unironically "you don't have to tell me twice, but during the stone age"-tier

>>149033581
Is this from the new Ultimate Spider-Man comics where Peter is older and has a family? I've been waiting to read them in case they started fucking them up.

>>149032824 (OP)
why are women and blacks unable to stand on their own and always need to leech of white mens success?

>>149032824 (OP)
sure why not

>>149032824 (OP)
No, I'd only watch if it was just Spider-Boy

>>149032824 (OP)
>Spiderboy

lmao nope

I would watch this show. I've had my fill of Peter origin stories.

>>149032824 (OP)
got spider fatigue
hate morales and im already tired of seeing spiderboy posted here.
spider family is almost close to being worse than the bat family

>>149038294
Because you're an idiot.

>>149036059
It's a shitty crossover where Miles comes in to shit up the new Ultimate Universe

The only time I'd want another Spider-Man on screen would be if they were doing an honest to god adaptation of the Clone Saga where they try and trim the fat and make a good, lean story out of the whole thing.
And at the end Ben has to either fuck off into the sunset or die like a hero

>>149038391
>wants the same shit over and over again
you're the idiot

>>149038524
>Miles/Gwentard calling anybody else an idiot.
You already lost with your first post. Pack it up.

>>149038524
>wants a show about characters that rehash peter's shit over and over again
You're still an idiot.

>>149038294
None of them are interesting characters though, and everything about them is derivative of Peter.

>>149032824 (OP)
No I’ll never watch anything with miles

>>149032824 (OP)
Sure, but only if they keep the idea that no one has any idea who Bailey is, that Miles is a refugee from an alternate dimension that only slightly resembles his current reality, and that Silk was trapped in bunker for over a decade doing nothing but watching tv and can barely function in society, all what Peter has no fucking clue what's going on or why he has to deal with these people.

>>149032824 (OP)
Fuck no! Just adapt the comics from 63 up 2007 with a middle finger to OMD
Just make all the spider deviant art poochies clones that melt when jackal is defeated, including miles scrapy poochie doo morales.

The absolute refusal to accept any other Spider heroes who aren't Peter is just dumb. A story that focuses on the fact that Peter doesn't have to do it all alone anymore would be great.

>>149038317
Bat family is fine as long as its just Bruce, Dick Tim, Damian and Barbara with an optional Jason.

>>149038996
Jess is actually completely divorced from Peter and her old material is pretty interesting conceptually.

>>149039257
>the retconned in secret child who is also a master ninja supergenius who has zero chemistry with Bruce
>fine

>>149033430
Sayeth the anon on /co/

>>149039239
If only Peter had a history of teaming up with other heroes that weren't just carbon copies of himself.
If only he had some kind of rapport with a super team or two.
If only his best friend was another super hero that he semi-regularly partners up with
Yeah, let's make him team up with lesser versions of himself

>>149038294
>Keeping Ben edited out
>Editing Ult Jessica in
>No Kaine in sight
Even when you're being a faggot you've got shit taste to boot

>>149039725
>keeping Peter clones out
yes, that's the point.

>>149032824 (OP)
>Spider-man and Spider-boy and Spider-silk and Spider-man-too
>Would be made by Disney on top of that
No.
Only a fool with the inability to recognize patterns would go back to that fetid through.

>>149039751
Jessica is a Peter clone. She's just a shittier version of Ben

>>149033003
It hasn't been boring since the 1960s.
The 'spider-family' has already been tired for almost a decade, and they're not even the only spider-family. The creative bankruptcy it takes to go 'we need a new character... who's popular? Spider-man? Okay spider-man but X' multiple time within such a short period of time is the type of creative bankruptcy that can't create interesting stories that draw readers in.

>>149033408
>John Stewart has existed since the 70s.
John Stewart didn't get his powers from a science experiment gone wrong. Stewart's closer to Rhodey, he's putting on the Ironman suit. It kills suspension of disbelief for Pete's accident to keep happening.

>>149039809
>It kills suspension of disbelief for Pete's accident to keep happening.
Isn't that how Wally West came about?

>>149038294
What's Ultimate Jessica Drew doing there? Wasn't she squished to death when her universe imploded?

>>149039821
It's also dumb for the Flash, yes.

>>149039751
>keeping Peter clones out
>yes, that's the point.
Then why is the page filled with Peter clones?

>>149039831
It's an edit, yes she's probably dead since the last we saw 1610 it was all fucked up with no one around

>>149032824 (OP)
>Spider-Man cartoon
>4 spider-person leads
I'll pass

>>149039708
Except its frequently a point made that teams like the Avengers are often busy dealing with cosmic and world ending shit. Daredevil also has his own stuff to deal with. Peter inspiring others with similar powers as his to do what he does is a reward for the example he set as Spider-man.

>>149032824 (OP)
I’m glad everyone is BTFOing the one guy who keeps trying to push the idea, holy fuck

>>149039809
>It kills suspension of disbelief for Pete's accident to keep happening
How many Spider people actually have their origins tied to a spider bite? Cindy and Miles are the only ones I can think of and Cindy was written to have been there and gotten bit by the same spider as Peter.

>>149039946
First of all the point of Spider-Man is doing the right thing without any expectation of reward.
Secondly he can inspire people without them becoming tiny, worse versions of himself. That was the whole point of the Spider-Man and the X-Men mini and it was great.
Your argument hinges on the idea because these knock offs don't have anything of their own going on, Spider-Man should be tied down with them, and I reject it. If you want Spider-Man working with other heroes then let him work with the ones that he actually has a good dynamic with, stop shacking him with these shitty parasites

>>149039946
>Peter inspiring others with similar powers as his to do what he does is a reward for the example he set as Spider-man
Even ChatGPT would have made up something more believable than the nonsense you just posted. You should feel ashamed.

>>149039239
Only if it's about Peter and Mayday alone

>>149039998
>First of all the point of Spider-Man is doing the right thing without any expectation of reward.
Anon, don't be dense.

Do you have these kinds of hang ups with all legacy characters?

>>149040043
>Do you have these kinds of hang ups with all legacy characters?
When the original is forced to awkwardly share his on media with them because they can't stand on their own? Yes.
I have no problem with good legacies like Miguel and Mayday. You've yet to actually explain why Peter should be forced to share a show with those failures instead of getting one to himself

>>149040077
I've alluded to or given reasons, but you're pretty clearly against the idea regardless of whatever reasons one could give because you insist that there's no value in other spider people and that all they do is detract from Peter.

>>149039239
>>149039946
Get off of the high of your own farts for a second. Your "ideas" suck.

>>149040132
Thus far your reasons have been
>Peter shouldn't need to be alone
This is not only wrong since he can carry a show or movie on his own, but if you desperately want to team him up with people he has countless other allies you could use that would be more interesting. Let him pal around with the Torch or Daredevil. Your excuse of "they have their own things going on" is piss weak.
>This way Spider-Man can inspire other heroes
Already debunked. Spider-Man has inspired other heroes before and they didn't need to become knock offs of him. He had a whole thing with Darkhawk back in the 90s, plus the X-Men mini I mentioned earlier, plus he also inspired Reptil.

I also told you about two other Spider People that I believe have merit, Spider-Girl and Spider-Man 2099, and that's because they exist in their own world and tell their own stories without fucking with Peter. I even like the clones when they're off doing their own thing, using their own identities, because unlike the others you want to prop up, they actually have some good stories under their belt

>>149040326
>Let him pal around with the Torch or Daredevil. Your excuse of "they have their own things going on" is piss weak.
If the idea is simply to completely or mostly divorce Daredevil and Johnny from their own worlds so they can be significant characters in a Spider-man story like was the case with Ultimate Spider-man and that team, then by all means, but then that would be detracting from Matt and Johnny.

Even beyond Miles, Bailey or Cindy, other Spider people don't have to distract or detract from Peter just because they operate at the same time as him like you seem dead set on thinking. They can, and have been used to prop up Peter's character which is what they're meant to do. Sure, there's a million heroes in the Marvel universe and you could take your pick to have whoever co-lead a series with Peter, but frankly I'd say that having characters who take after Peter directly would be better fit than some random characters from X-Men character, especially if we're talking about a TV show where you don't want to have to inundate people with a bunch of extra stuff like who the X-Men or Fantastic 4 are. Using character closer to Peter only makes more sense for their narrative applications.

Also I can't speak for Cindy, but Bailey and Miles have done without having to rely heavily if at all on Peter.

>>149032824 (OP)
Remove Miles then I will watch it.

>>149032824 (OP)
just give me a Silk solo

>>149032838
this

>>149041654
Fuck off

>>149032824 (OP)
Spider-man is not a team book. If you want another spider-man, you'll have to do something brand new, like how Jim Hammond and Johnny Storm have nothing to do with each others beside powers. Of course, that's too much to ask in this day and age.

>>149032824 (OP)
Everyone is sick and tired of the Spider-Friends show.

>>149040599
>Miles have done without having to rely heavily if at all on Peter
Miles literally cannot exist without Peter. Everything he is and does is downstream. He's the definition of derivative.
But you knew that already.

It says a lot when Bailey (AKA Slott's latest royalties scam) managed to be more unique in two years while Miles is still just a raceswapped ripoff over 13 years after his creation with only a single identifiable storyline (I'M DA REEEL SPIDAHMAN).

>>149040599
>Even beyond Miles, Bailey or Cindy, other Spider people don't have to distract or detract from Peter just because they operate at the same time as him
You are asking for Peter to have to share a show with these people. That will distract from Peter by definition. He does not need them, nor does he benefit from their presence, and if you need a team up (for an episode or two) then use another cape that is more interesting and contrasts with him in a better way.
You're labouring under the assumption that the show NEEDS another character besides Spider-Man to be the lead, and you are wrong. Spider-Man doesn't need a sidekick, nor does he need a co-star.
Also
>implying any of those ripoffs are closer to Peter than Johnny or Matt