This mindbroke Matt and Trey into hating the earlier episodes. They may hate Family Guy but they LOVE The Simpsons.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QMHAu_WbG4o

>>149051396 (OP)
I never got why they screamed when Marge turned the TV off.

>>149051396 (OP)
>earlier
Simpsons was already Zombie Simpsons by the time South Park premiered, by the they started making jokes and parodies of SP the Zombie Simpsons era was already well underway.

>>149051552
>Simpsons was already Zombie Simpsons by the time South Park premiered
It was on its way. South Park started in the summer between The Simpsons’ 8th and 9th seasons. Sort of seems like as South Park went up, The Simpsons went down.

>>149051412
They like cartoon violence

>>149051396 (OP)
They hate the seasons without Butters. The episode that inspired this parody was a post-Butters episode. "Simpsons Did It."

Neither of them were particularly vicious or anything. It came off good natured and fun.

>>149052301
Why is so common for cartoon creators to hate their early episodes even though most of the time they are better than the newer ones

>>149052313
It's an artist thing. As your experience (and budget) increases, you start to get better at making things the way you intended them to come out.

>>149051396 (OP)
They hate the earlier seasons for the dumbest fucking reason imaginable. It’s not due to the jokes or the writing, they hate it because it looks ugly and the animation is even more stilted than recent episodes. They don’t understand the charm of the show.

>>149052450
SOVL vs no SOVL

>>149052457
they have to justify paying their retarded millennial animators somehow

>>149052457
I never knew south park started to have the same problem modern simpsons had, old characters remain on the original basic style while modern character have this strange overdetailed style. It fucking sucks when that happens.

>>149052450
It's funny cuz I like the monty python animation style they imitated in the early seasons

Matt and Trey are fucking schizoid hypocrite hacks who get all their story ideas from whatever is currently happening in society by looking at a newspaper or some news site. Their opinions mean nothing.

>>149052457
The old Woman in the right image doesn't look like she belongs in South Park. She looks like she is from another show.

>>149053809
This is a perfectly valid criticism of the show even if you like it

>>149053809
>a comedy show draws from the news and social commentary
that's kind of what comedy is

i swear zoomers, well late millennials too, are so fucking stupid. your dumbass parents let you watch these kind of cartoons instead of shit like gargoyles or batman, so you think these are "story based" shows , they're not, they don't have lore, there is no character arcs, everything is a gag.....it only exists to be a vehicle for gags, you can think it's not funny, but stop thinking it's something it's not

>>149052301
Not sure but from a personal perspective if you do art, when you look at your old art you would see any tiny mistake. Even the most small ones. And if you have a 90% of picture done well this shitt>>149052301
y 10% would bother you. Maybe they are like this

>>149052457
'SOVL' is nothing but a lazy excuse by pseudointellectuals to justify incompetence.
Trey and Matt themselves proved this long ago.

>>149053976
Nah, South Park is a very clear case of "SOUL vs SOULESS". I'd much rather watch a silly episode about underpants gnomes over a shitty, overblown take on this weeks drama.

>>149053986
>>149053976 was the message of underpants gnomes.

>>149052457
>>149053986
I think it should boil down to this
>Could this design be possible with paper cut outs
You can some exceptions but only when they really warrant it to stick out like Mecha Streisand's redesign, Cthulhu, or Manbearpig

>>149053976
it's the same thing that happened to IASIP, going to HD and upgrading everything took something of the raw, fun DIY aspect that people were drawn to

>>149051396 (OP)
i can’t stand the voices on the Simpsons
It’s always the same sounding people
The guy doing the narrator is the guy who voices skinner and kent brockman
the woman doing Stan and Kyle’s voices is the one who does jimbo
The robot? The guy who voices Homer, the grandpa and Willie
And OJ, the guy who voices otto
the only voice i ever found funny in the first place was chief wiggum everyone else including Marge never sound appealing to me not even some of the celebrity guest voices

>>149053871
Damn Pete…

>>149052313
Not exclusive to cartoons, Look at George Lucas

>>149054035
>Manbearpig
Is that the thing with Patrick Duffy for a leg?
I stopped watching the show halfway through the second or third season. I could tell it was getting further and further away from the silliness I enjoyed about the first season. I've watched an ep here or there since and just didn't like any of them nearly at much as I did the first season

>>149051396 (OP)
Is THIS the reason why Simpsons pivoted to being increasingly edgy during the 2000s? To try and compete with South Park?

Early SP is full of adlibbed and overlapped dialog that's much funnier than they come these days. Also, it was non-linear narrative. If nobody remembers, but early SP also had cutaway gags

>>149056352
Early SP had cutaways? I don't remember that..

Cock magic is my very fav episode. Sadly Mat and Tray don't like this one

>>149051396 (OP)
Y'all really think OJ did it?

>>149052031
Yeah. Simpsons season 9 was the start of the decline, but it still had its bright spots (mainly the holdover episodes from seasons 7 and 8). Season 10 was when it was full on zombie Simpsons and Mike Scully's wacky ride was in full swing.

>>149052301
>Neither of them were particularly vicious or anything. It came off good natured and fun.
Yeah, the only real jab at them in the Simpsons Did It episode was when Butters comes up with that machine that replaces cherries in chocolate covered cherries with mayonnaise. He confirms with Dougie that it's never been done on the Simpsons and Dougie responds that it hasn't since The Simpsons would be more clever than that.
Immediately afterwards, a preview for a new Simpsons episode comes on TV where the plot involves Bart creating the machine Butters had just created.

>>149057772
He accidentally confessed in an interview
https://youtu.be/rk2Wgvy-_jI?t=229

>>149057112
>Tray

>>149058669
Lol WHOOPS

>>149057020
Yes, that's the part that most people memoryholed. Most of the cutaways weren't something random like in FG but were closer to flashbacks

>>149051396 (OP)
They predicted the real Bill Cosby years before he was exposed.

>>149051396 (OP)
nice sweater vest, is very stylish

>>149061810
shit, I knew that vest looked familiar

>>149053986
Ironically you picked Scott Tenorman as the soul example, the episode were Matt and Trey thought they improved their storytelling skills and kept to a single A plot

>>149052313
>Why is so common
Why is so hard for you to speak english?

>>149060315
I see

>>149063090
I ate it

>>149051396 (OP)
South Park is barely anything like that

>>149058534
>Simpsons season 9 was the start of the decline, but it still had its bright spots (mainly the holdover episodes from seasons 7 and 8)
Principle and The Pauper was a Season 8 holdover

>>149061995
Hey Doug, you look like a massive fucking faggot in that vest and that's why Patti finds you repulsive, honk honk

>>149064241
So was The City of New York vs Homer Simpson and Lisa the Simpson
As far as Principal and the Pauper goes, the actual premise of the episode was dogshit, but the humor/gags in the episode were classic-era quality.

>>149055296
>Is that the thing with Patrick Duffy for a leg?
That's Scuzzlebutt
This is Manbearpig

>>149052313
9/10 artists claim that they loath their old works and the other 1/10 are liars. Anyways, Early South Park was good, but not nearly as good as episodes where Butters became a mainstay.

>>149052457
I don't know, characters being blatantly more detailed while still being as crudely animated crack me up sometimes

>>149051396 (OP)
The early episodes are pretty shit. South Park really kicks off after Bigger Longer and Uncut.

>>149052313
>>149052411
In truth most of the early breakout work an artist does is either something they didn't put as much thought into or didn't have the skill to fully express.
However that work how it was is what attracts an audience and so when the creative refines their skill or their tastes change they can feel trapped and grow resentful of their earlier work constraining them and making them fell like their new work doesn't get a fair shake on account of the audience coming from their earlier work.

However in the case of South park its very much that Matt and Trey were fucking around with the early seasons in a way they grew out of, however since South park is a big cash cow flagship which serves as a vessel for the content they want to do these days.

>>149064317
all three of those episodes were dogshit

>>149064101
Early South Park is EXACTLY like that lol

>>149051396 (OP)
"Mindbroke"?

>>149064800
>The early episodes are pretty shit.
No.

>South Park really kicks off after Bigger Longer and Uncut.
Yes!

>>149064686
thumbnail made it look like he had a massive boner

>>149052637
How could you NOT notice? It's probably the worst example of that happening. Modern characters have hyper detailed hair and faces and outfits and they stand next to Randy with his ovals for feet. It's incredibly jarring and looks fucking awful

>>149057772
He most certainly did. If not him, then WHOM?

>>149068001
Joe

>>149051396 (OP)
So Violent!!