Yesterday a pint-sized Spidey took on some terrible toy, Daredevil challenged webhead to a quip-off, and one of Peter's schoolmates threw her hat into the supers' ring
Today we get another Spider mini

>previous threads
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Was a bit concerned since my browser didn't want to open, but a quick reboot and everything seems okay

Surprised Kaine can keep his big beard and huge teeth hidden under his mask

>>149060979 (OP)
>GLENN'S COMMENTS : I was the one who really pushed for this limited series. It dated back to the Bob Budiansky era of Spider-Man, when there was still talk of launching THE LOST YEARS as a new Spider-Man franchise. I wanted the Brevoort/Greenberg office to be at the forefront of this new franchise, and Tom Brevoort was generous enough-and had enough confidence in me-to allow me to take point on getting everything moving.

>>149060985
>My goal was to get J.M. DeMatteis back on Spider-Man, even if it was only on a short-term basis. Since Marc had written the first LOST YEARS series, it only made sense to me to call him and ask him to do the second one. I called Marc and found him quite willing to return to what we all still believed at that time to be the secret history of the one, true Spider-Man. John Romita Jr., who penciled the first series, was already committed to penciling the monthly SPIDER-MAN title, so he wouldn't be available. The most natural thing then, I believed, was to invite Mike Zeck and Bob McLeod to do the project, since they had worked together so well with Marc on "Kraven's Last Hunt" and its sequel, SOUL OF THE HUNTER. I called Mike and Bob, and was fortunate to reach them at a time when they had openings in their respective schedules, and could work on the four issues. DeMatteis was really excited when I told him that Mike and Bob had agreed to do REDEMPTION-he always loved working with them.

>Tom Brevoort let me continue on as the hands-on editor of the project, although he of course had final say over everything and had the option of overriding me if he didn't like something. As I recall, though, he never did exercise that option, although he did offer notes and suggestions along the way, which I passed on to Marc. I've always been very grateful to Tom for giving me the chance to put this project together and supervising it.

>>149061056
>GLENN'S COMMENTS : There was a wonderful scene in REDEMPTION #1 that had Ben Reilly, as Spider-Man, visiting the grave of Harry Osborn and expressing his deep regret over Harry's death. What anguished Ben the most was that he never even gotten to say goodbye to the young man who had been his best friend. After all, Ben was on the road and Peter was in the Spider-Man suit when Harry had his final nervous breakdown and resumed his role as the Green Goblin. I thought it was great that Marc had picked up on this and worked it into the story. Ben's mourning the loss of Harry was a necessary thing to address, and oddly enough, none of the regular Spider-Man writers had ever dealt with it. The great thing about DeMatteis is that he understands the Spider-Man universe and its characters so well, and portrays them in such a realistic, believable way. Is it any wonder that I felt the need to get him back into the Spider-Man Group, in whatever capacity possible?

>>149061061
>The thing I remember most about REDEMPTION, though, is the hell we went through during the development stage. It was my idea to have the main section of the story line take place in the present day, with the "Lost Years" segments done as flashbacks. Marc DeMatteis loved this idea, and set about trying to tie the present day material in with what was going on in the core Spider-Man titles. The problem was that at the time we started working out the details of the story, we were getting different information almost every day from Bob Budiansky on what the status quo was going to be in the core books at the time in which REDEMPTION was going to be published. As a result, Marc DeMatteis had to keep revising his story outline over and over and over again. He revised the outline no less than SEVEN TIMES before we finally knew once and for all what we could do in the series. The original version was simply a direct sequel to THE LOST YEARS, focusing on Ben Reilly's relationships with Kaine and Janine. But after DeMatteis turned in the first outline, we were informed that Ben was going to be killed and Peter was going to be back in the Spider-Man suit, established once again as the original web-slinger, and he will have broken up with Mary Jane. DeMatteis revised the outline to accommodate the changes. With Peter as the star of the story, it made little sense to put the LOST YEARS name on the project, and it began to look like the entire project itself was utterly unnecessary. At one point, it was looking very much like the plug was going to be pulled.

>>149061075
>But then we were informed by new Editor in Chief Bob Harras that the resolution to the clone saga had to be delayed for six months. That meant Ben would still be around, and would still be Spider-Man. It also meant that the LOST YEARS sequel could still happen, even though starting a LOST YEARS franchise was now a dead issue. Consulting with Bob Budiansky, who was still editing Spider-Man, we worked out a new version of the story that was based on what was going to happen in the core books during those six additional months.

>DeMatteis now had to work in the fact that Ben Reilly had taken on the Peter Parker identity and would be wearing the original Spider-Man costume, with the blessing of the "clone" Peter Parker and Mary Jane, who were staying in Portland, Oregon. Ben, as Peter, would explain to friends and acquaintances that he and Mary Jane split up, and that he didn't want to discuss it. Mourning the death of Harry Osborn would bring him into contact with Harry's widow, Liz, and her son, Normie. Ben/Peter would establish an emotional bond with the both of them, and the seeds are planted for a possible future romance between Ben/Peter and Liz.

>>149061087
>Once Budiansky was gone and Ralph Macchio had taken over as Spider-Man editor, we were then informed that Ben would NOT take on the Peter Parker identity after all. We once again began to doubt that the project would ever see the light of day, as Bob Harras made it known that he was not enamored of all the Spider-Man limited series and special projects that had proliferated the market in recent times. I could see his point, but I still wanted to do the project. I thought it had merit, it had a strong creative team, and we'd already put so much work into it already. Fortunately, we were allowed to proceed. What we ultimately ended up with was something not all that different from the original version, although DeMatteis did have to do yet another revision.

>>149061094
>It was funny - it had gotten to the point where I think Marc dreaded getting a phone call from me, because I had called him so many times to let him know that there was a new status quo and ask him to do yet another set of revisions. But I have to say this: he had the patience of a saint, and didn't complain once about all the work he had to do for a project that he knew could have been cancelled at any moment. It was always a pleasure to work with Marc DeMatteis, and I regret not having more opportunities to do so.

>I also have to mention that it was a blast working with Mike Zeck and Bob McLeod, two artists I admired long before I was working at Marvel. I got along very well with the both of them, and it was always exciting when Zeck would drop by the office for a visit. I never got to meet McLeod, but I worked with him on a number of projects, and he always turned in a great job.

I guess none of Flash's military career counts for anything (yet)

Okay I had to go back and check Lost Years
Because she didn't die there, they rode off into the sunset together

>>149061282
Her death was alluded to at the end and then also a couple of times before Lost Years came out, but we never actually saw it

Ben don't... lash out at the cops

>>149061495
Oh Ben, you dope

I know it's standard procedure, but come on man, don't break their window

>>149061681
>"I BREAK THEIR WINDOW AS WARREN BROKE ME!!!" - Kaine, probably

>>149061681
spider-menaces all of them.

>>149061681
I wonder if Peter will instinctively blame Ben for this

>>149060979 (OP)
>lost years
Okay, THIS time we will find out who Wild Whip is, right?

>>149061738
Oh for sure, definitely

Introducing a new mystery character?

>>149061843
the benevolent bandage man?

Oh shit, kino alert.

>>149061877
Doesn't seem so benevolent to me

>>149062114
>Hey what'd I do?
Ben you are an idiot

They stopped colour coding the thought bubbles

>>149062114
THE BENEVOLENT BANDAGE MAN WAS BEN REILLY?

Nevermind, Kaine's are still his

>>149062149
Oh hey, they do mention his suit has a purpose.

>>149062132
>GLENN'S COMMENTS : THE LOST YEARS had ended with the revelation that Janine had died, but when we got the go-ahead to do the sequel, I encouraged Marc DeMatteis to find a way to use her again-either in flashback or in the present day sequences. I really liked her character, and I felt that there was a lot more that could be done with her. Marc told me he was thinking along the same lines, which made me even more enthusiastic to see this project come to fruition.

>>149062149
I like Kaine he's so over dramatic

>No! I will take Ben to gold in the suffering olympics!

>>149062413
how?

>>149062413
>GLENN'S COMMENTS : My original idea for the title of this project was SPIDER-MAN: LOST YEARS FOUND, to acknowledge that it was a sequel to THE LOST YEARS. But it didn't fly. Marc and I came up with a list of possible titles, and settled on REDEMPTION-although RESURRECTION came in a close second. I ended up using LOST YEARS FOUND as the cover copy for the first issue of the series.

>>149062413
why doesn't kaine have nipples

>>149062493
Pretty much the same reason Malenia doesn't.

>>149062493
They degenerated off, that's like 60% of his suffering right there

You're a complicated creature, Kaine

>giant ad for a copier

>>149062676
>GLENN'S COMMENTS : Duality comes up a lot in Marc DeMatteis's writing, as it's a favorite subject of his. He has a real penchant for exploring the darkness and light in the souls of his characters, and stripping away the layers surrounding them to reveal their deepest selves. It's particularly enlightening when he does it long-established characters such as Spider-Man, Superman, and Batman, about whom you might think everything has already been said.

>>149062685
>GLENN'S COMMENTS : As you know, there was no LOST YEARS franchise ever launched out of the Spider-Man line. REDEMPTION represents the one and only extension of the LOST YEARS limited series, and it was the final word on Ben Reilly's years on the road. I think it's safe to say that it'll never be collected in a trade paperback, and will never be referred to again in Spider-Man continuity, since Marvel has wanted to distance itself as much as possible from the clone saga and Ben Reilly and everything connected with them. I certainly understand that sentiment, and I don't blame the folks at Marvel for wanting to move forward. It's just a shame that REDEMPTION, which I consider to be an extremely entertaining and satisfying project, with a top-flight creative team, is lumped in with the most unpopular era in Spider-Man's history and will probably be forgotten-if it hasn't already been.

Well, at least Glenn was partially wrong on this one. He's still kinda right about the last point though unfortunately

>>149061013
It's a really tight mask

>>149062747
>Beyond proceeds to shit all over Ben's hopes
I'm still mad

THE END
Good read too

Tomorrow we're back to less heavy stuff, with more Untold Tales and Team-Up

>>149062733
can Reed fix him?

>>149062766
Thanks Magister. One of my favourite stories from this whole thing

>>149062766
Thanks for storytiming, Magister!

>>149062766
Ah Ben, you deserve so much better. Thanks, Magister.

>>149062766
thanks magister

>crunching the numbers to see if I can finish the clone saga before goin on vacation

>>149063331
Got 7-8 days worth of stories by my count

>>149062767
yeah, right after he fixes Ben

Spider-bump

>>149062766
thanks

>>149062766
Thanks for the storytime Magister

>>149060979 (OP)
Interesting.

>>149064918
Ditto

>>149068009
Ditko

I'm not sure if it actually matters, but Kaine's description of Ben shifts from believing they are both clones to that Ben was the source, but continues with the same relation to Ben.

>>149068998
Kaine really doesn't care about that. He just hates Ben with his guts and looks up to him at the same time. Clone or not

meh

Thanks, Fagister.

>>149068838
Thank god Peter wasn't going to a gun show.