Is this the right place to discuss potential roster inclusions for this game?

I'm hoping that ArcSys pulls out someone completely random and elevates them to Shuma Gorath meme status. Maybe Threnody has some complicated mechanic where all of her hits only do potential damage until she cashes them out with a super. Goldballs could be like Venom with his pool balls. Moses Magnum ad a fuckass zone, Rage as a tic-throw monster.

Consider Man-Thing as a mini-boss with no hitstun and a huge lifebar. He only makes huge, slow swings, but they're a OHKO.

There's some speculation the main antagonist is the Champion

>>149064100
A solid pick, but...

For story reasons, The Grand Master and The Challenger hosting another Contest of Champions fits well.

>>149064071 (OP)
I just want Hank Pym, playable Spider-Man villains who aren't Venom, Baron Zemo and Kang the Conqueror. Wrecking Crew that functions like FighterZ Captain Ginyu with Wrecker as the main fighter would be dope if unlikely.

>>149064071 (OP)
>playable Spider-Man villains who aren't Venom
Mysterio would be great

>>149064071 (OP)
Ideally, the roster is split between Heroes and Villains, but I don't think it will happen.
4v4 without the fantastic four would be criminal too.

>>149064929
I would love to see the whole F4 get in.

>>149064287
Mysterio would be fucking rad for a fighting game, could pull all sorts of crazy tricks such as poisonous illusion smoke, special effect attacks and supers or special moves based on movie genre's. I know it'd never happen but i'd love for my guy Shocker to be playable, I'd take Doctor Octopus or The Lizard as a consolation prize to since also would love either to get in.

>>149064929
Ah but Max said that the Fantastic Four don't make sense to add but 8 X-men clearly do....this is super petty but X-men fanboys should never have any say in rosters for any games or involvement in writing other Marvel characters as countless issues over the years and X-men 97's treatment of Captain America shows.

>>149065129
I do like X-men but the hardcore X-fags will have you believe that they were only comics anyone gave a shit about outside of Spider-man and will go well out of the way to shit on any other character.

I just don't want Magneto, the world's most overrepresented mutant villain, but that a pipe dream. Like imagine Selene, Toad, Blob, Mr Sinister or even Black Tom getting in.

Armor would be neat. You could have her swap between a big slow moving tanky armored up form or de-armor and be a quick slap fighter who takes hits like a school girl.

I want the Sentry in the game.

>>149064929
I can see some Kamalafags saying that Reed would be pointless. Twelve and Necro existed in the same game, and both were stretchy/amorphous characters, they can definitely do the same thing here.
>>149065129
>Ah but Max said that the Fantastic Four don't make sense to add but 8 X-men clearly do
What kind of reasoning is that? The 4v4 fighting game without the team with the number four in their name and four-man roster would be criminal. It's not the 90s anymore, half the damn roster doesn't need to be X-Men.

>>149065223
Fuck off, Movie Zoomie. I hope NOTHING gets added to appeal to retards like you.

>>149065225
Hell, they could had the U-foes in the game, the designated villain version of the FF.

>>149065225
Retards like max aren't fans of the source. They're retards who ride MvC nostalgia and meme bullshit. You ask any of these youtube streamer faggots and Deadpool will probably top their list.

>>149065151
Yeah sadly Infinite and the perceived oppression from the Inhumans push that ultimately hurt the Inhumans more then any Mutant property in the long run gave them ammo for the victimhood and acting like X-men are the only thing important to Marvel despite that not being the case even in the 90's when they were most popular. Though to be positive there is a few X-men characters I'd love to see in Tokon like Psylocke for obvious reasons and Nightcrawler cause he's genuinely cool plus offers cool moveset ideas with his swords and BAMFing. Was gonna also say Scarlet Witch but she's an Avenger's character despite her tenuous association with X-men that is more a detriment to her but that's me getting negative again.

>>149065263
>Though to be positive there is a few X-men characters I'd love to see in Tokon like Psylocke
The OG british who became a lesbian or the ninja Kwannon?

>>149065252
I'd love that as unlikely as it'd be. Vector alone has a lot of potential for some cool and mad disrespectful moves with his pushing/pulling matter power and Vapour could be made mucho sexo in the art style on top of her powers making her gameplay style have a lot of possibilities. Though like my Wrecking Crew Idea I think if they did add em it'd be a whole team as one character deal with summon based attacks or stance esque swapping out.

>>149065263
Nobody would complain about there being multiple X-men. I have a few I'd like to see too, but the idea that any new game needs to be COTA2 also starting Spider-man and maybe Captain America is inane. There are a lot of cool characters who would also not only be cool to have in the game but could really benefit from the exposure.

>>149065285
Don't ask retarded questions.

>>149065298
Honestly, I want the MacKay team of X-men, especially Cyclops, Juggernaut and Kwannon.

>>149065285
uhh well you could always have both in the same body as a stance character that changes her look and moveset depending who's the dominant personality....but I'd rather the sexy ninja in the leotard and thigh highs look if had to pick. Though I actually quite like her Dissembled costume also.

>>149065312
She didn't have multiple personalities you idiot. Good god why is this character so hard for you morons to understand. I swear to fuck.

>>149065291
Kid Kaiju and Classic Devil Dinosaur are a few oddball non villain picks I'd like to see show up. Sleepwalker would also make for a rad Arcsys style fighter and I have a soft spot for Stingray so him getting in would be sweet. Honestly with these Marvel fighters I should make a rule that I can't suggest the obvious personal picks of villains I really like and Hank Pym...though I still will till they get in something.

I really want an Iron man villain, like Whiplash, Madame Masque or Blizzard.

Think about it

>>149065317
I know she doesn't/never did in the comics, I'm saying that's what they could hypothetically do if they wanted to have both versions of the Psylocke mantle in and do something interesting with her as a playable character. I even said rather have the classic sexy superheroine ninja version of her if had to pick strictly one though Mr Negative. Actually he'd be pretty cool in a game like this now that I think on it.

>>149065333
Titanium Man would be dope since could be a more brutish grappler version of Ironman's gameplay in the game, perhaps with some of his moves and arsenal being based on the version from Ironman Armoured Adventures. Though Ghost is the one Ironman villain who I think would be utterly perfect for a fighting game with his phasing abilities, deranged conspiracy nut personality and creepy yet cool costume.

If Wanda get in, and so must Pietro.
>>149065347
Nice pick.

>>149064071 (OP)
>Is this the right place
I was gonna say /fgg/ but on second thought maybe it's best to shield as many people from that cesspool as possible

>>149064100
Can anybody even take this guy seriously after Slott?

>>149065347
If had to pick a Thunderbolts babe, I'd like Moonstone to be in

Tokon better have Psylocke and it better be Kwannon

Dick Rider would be nice. You could have him be bros with Quill and have a Space Cop/Free spirited Cow Boy duo.

>>149064071 (OP)
Daredevil seems likely. He's got a fucking stage in the game after all.

>>149064100
That would be cool as shit.

>>149065393
He's front lining the upcoming beat em up. Which is honestly the game I'm more looking forward to. Marvel bros are eating well in terms of games. Sadly I am a DC fag.

>>149065396
Tbh, NYC is basically everyone's stage.

Its hilarious how everyone disowned Betty as Psylocke the moment Kwannon got the leotard.

>>149065403
>meanwhile the only announcement DC fans might get is Injustice 3
WB will one day pay for their crimes in mishandling the DC franchise, I was looking forward to that WW game too :(

>>149065405
Yeah that could just as easily function as a stage for Iron Fist and Luke Cage. Though I Imagine a Spider-man stage would be more vertical.

I hope Black Knight get in and they actually expand on his weird genetically engineered Winged Horses. Make him more SF too, with a huge technosword.

>>149065412
it's sad but it was inevitable, the main appeal for Psylocke was being a Japanese ninja. of course they couldn't get rid of that but they couldn't get rid of her powers either, so now we have two women with largely the same abilities., but the Japanese ninja is more popular and recognizable as Psylocke than "Captain Britain" so obviously Kwannon got what she deserved. it's sad that Betsy is basically shafted now but it was a long time coming anyway.

>>149065452
>it's sad that Betsy is basically shafted now but it was a long time coming anyway.
They should turn Betsy into Marvel Girl

>>149065460
they already did that with her lover. I doubt they have much idea on what to do with either Betsy or Rachel, hence why they're paired together and do... what do they even do nowadays? what happened to Betsy and Rachel since Krakoa ended?

>>149065467
They joined X-force, which killed off Surge (fuck the New X-men I guess).

>>149065479
Surge is dead now? damn that's a shame, she's been fun so far in Momoko's Ultimate run

>>149065491
Speaking of UXM, I really like this version of Armor. Especially how she is a tomboyish biker.

>>149065412
I mean yeah, didn't help how she turned out writing and fashion wise soon after she jumped Kwannon's body.

The ideal roster distribution should be 50% heroes, 10% anti heroes and 40% villains.

>>149065491
She was revived at the end of the run, she's now living electricity.

>>149065583
She is electric Wonder Man now?

When I think about it, they can always get Elektra if they wanted a ninja. I mean, she is the OG ninja girl of Marvel.

I posted this list in a previous thread:

Starting roster:
Wolverine
Thor
Venom
Psylocke
Black Panther
Doctor Octopus
Thanos
Rocket
Carol (though I have reasons to doubt it)
Dr. Strange
MODOK
Magneto
Electro
Hulk
Ant-Man
Gamora
Silver Samurai
Jean Grey

Then for DLC:
Green Goblin
Deadpool
Sandman
Scarlet Witch
Jubilee
Mysterio

And guest characters if even allowed:
Deku
Spawn
The Mask
Ninja Turtles
Invincible
Jotaro Kujo

>>149065413
I doubt Injustice 3 will get made, considering all the behind-the-scenes stuff at WB Games right now
i think NRS will just be dragged back into the MK Mines for another game they don't really want to make at this point

Thanos has to be in the game at this point so there is an actually big guy in the roster.

>>149065335
No Nazis.

>>149065596
No, she is Miguel Santos with boobs.

>>149064133
>>149064100
That guy makes sense, he's basically a fighting game boss already.

>>149065335
I thought it was Sleepwalker.

>>149065786
>Super Hero Squad Reference
based beyond belief

>>149065225
>What kind of reasoning is that?
The grew up in the 90's reasoning
Also, the FF never got into the fighting games, so they don't have a fanbase among them.
>>149065343
I wouldn't mind that. Would fill a similar niche to Sentinel without just putting in an overglorified mook that got popular through being top tier.
Through personally, I'd want Mandarin

Sentry or Hyperion.

Assuming we have 22~25 characters, and minus the eight characters shown.
>Hulk
>Mr.Fantastic (Grappler that can summon the other FF)
>Whiplash or Blizzard
>Elektra
>Wolverine
>Selene
>Pyro
>Lizard or Mysterio or Hobgoblin
>The Leader
>Enchantress
>Thor
>Nick Fury
>Man Thing
>Moon Knight
>Fin Fang Foom
>Ronan
>Nova

>>149066044(me)
Actually, nix Nick Fury, 'cause they are probably going to put Samuel L.Jackson again. I'll replace him with Reptil.

>>149065970
Mandarin would be perfect for a fighting game and being Tony's defacto Arch Enemy that I'm frankly shocked he's never gotten in before even as a boss character. Though again cause love Ironman Armored Adventures I think that show is the best he's ever been adapted and did a good job modernizing him without losing the integral or Chinese theming of the character.

>>149065405
>>149065419
Murdoch and Nelson's law firm is in the stage, as well as Fogwell's Gym. That's a Daredevil stage.

>>149066044
There's gonna be a shitload of DLC as well.

>>149065335
Horde! My favorite Savage Dragon villain!

As much as I want the FF, they would eat a lot of roster space. Best to have one member, one then can summon the others. I think they had a character like that in the DBZ fighting game too.

I just want Elsa, come on!

The Marvelman Family should be in it.

Jubilee not being playable in a fighting game yet is weird, since she's canonically a gamer.

>>149066161
But you had the Baxter Building, an avengers prime statue and Shuma Gorath in that stage...

>>149065347
Brother. I'm all with you.
I am honestly amazed that Marvel has never done a push for her as a positive female role model. They don't even need to change anything about her like they did with Captain Marvel or DC did with Harley.

>>149065403
>Sadly I am a DC fag.
Injustice and 2 Archam games.
It's been a while, but at least you have some timeless gems.

Meanwhile I'm just hoping for an HD remake of Enter Electro.

>>149065747
both Elektra and Psylocke might be asking for too much...but so is wanting both Reed and Kamala

>>149065758
after MK1's poor reception and the hype behind MVC Collection and now Tokon & Invincible VS, they'll definitely reconsider another DC fighter

>>149066478
only Enter Electro? why not the first game as well?

>>149066559
Lets be honest: Who doesn't overlap?

My roster, assuming we go by 4 man teams
>Avengers 1: Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk
>Avengers 2: Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Dr.Strange, Spider-Man
>X-Men: Storm, Wolverine, Emma Frost, Magik
>Cosmic: Star-Lord, Groot, Darkhawk, Gladiator
>New Generation: Ms.Marvel, Hawkeye, Ghost Rider, Nova
>Fantastic Four: who do you think?
>Villains: Dr.Doom, The Mandarin, Dr.Octopus, Loki

>>149065223
great drawing and agreed

>>149065223
>Void install
Based.

>>149066044
Anything less than 30 seems like a waste

>>149066926
low 30's seems like the max
Unfortunately, fighting game rosters have a tendency to shrink in recent years

>>149066933
Yeah, but Sony's own Playstation Studios are working on this game with ArcSystem works. Sony is known to spend a lot of money.

>>149065324
>Kid Kaiju
Kid Kaiju really is underrated, I wish his book wasn't cut short

>>149066955
yeah, but Strive had like 16 at launch.
Something like 28 would be a lot for a modern fighter.

>>149067290
Tbf, its a tag team and DBZfighter had like 25 characters

4v4 sounds like an absolute disaster of an idea. I hate the attacks of everyone shown so far too.

They could make All-Black look really cool given how arcsys made Eddie look and animate in strive

>>149066478
>Injustice
Fuck that, Injustice makes modern Mortal Kombat feel like the best of Tekken games.

>>149067731
They could also not waste their time with pure shit

>>149067812
>the best of Tekken games
not exactly a high bar to clear
>>149067850
good thing Gorr is kino

>>149066955
>Yeah, but Sony's own Playstation Studios are working on this game
damn, I was really hoping Tokon would be good but alas

>Mfw the last tag team had 18 characters

>>149067868
And Faggotrealm couldn't clear even that bar.
Fuck Boon btw. He should choke on a thousand of cocks like a faggot he is.

>>149065363
Nope, That storyline made no sense.

>>149065225
Kamala making reed redundant is like a base human making other base humans redundant.

Reed is usually portrayed as more outrageous in these games with his stretching and also brings sci-fi gizmos to the table.

>>149068234
I hate Boon as much as the next sane person but it's very obvious WB is the principal reason why MK1 sucked. it doesn't take a genius to figure out they made NRS restart development and then rush it for a 2023 release before it was ready

>>149066073
I'm guessing it is a result of being seen as not cool or having a lull period with Hammer and Stane being the big focus enemies.

So, it seems like all of the characters will have a special button like in injustice, yes?

>>149068334
MVC3 technically had a "Special" button too, it just depends if it's different for every character like Injustice or just a universal move like MVC3 or DBFZ

>>149068310
The point is, Injustice is still somehow shittier.

>>149066955
Playstation is definitely gonna want to flex having multiple characters in the game

So what do we know?
>4v4
>Unique artstyle
>Probably no Baiken tier tits
That's it.

>>149068607
The gameplay looks glacial next to MvC.

>>149068607
I mean Storm is pretty stacked

>>149068683
Its literally just fighterz

>>149068719
So is Doom. His armors are pecs and not even his robe can contain them.

>>149067041
I wish he even got to show up anymore, being an actually original and unique character puts him leagues above all the legacy shitters even with my bias towards him being a kaiju themed hero.

>>149069774
What pains me is how boring the legacy characters are.
Johnny is different from Jim. Ghost Rider has nothing to do with the cowboy one, same with Black Widow and the Satanist one.
I guess Ms.Marvel is the last original "legacy" character, and even then they are giving her photon powers to "synergize" with Carol...

>>149066933
FighterZ started with 24 and 6 DLC, if they use Spider-Man and Iron Man like they use Goku and Vegeta variants I don't think a 30 character base roster isn't too wild with 8 characters as dlc.
>>149066367
She also has canonically dog shit powers

>>149069822
They give her energy powers because stretching powers look stupid in live action on a TV budget.

>>149069822
I don't think there was even an intentional connection between the later two sets, just name reuse.

>>149068607
>Probably no Baiken tier tits
dont underestimate the abilities of one peculiar kawaii girl in the trailer

>>149065129
your mistake was assuming Max is an X-fag and not just a 90s MvC fanboy, especially the older games with a greater X-Men ratio in the rosters. he's quite the tourist when it comes to actual X-Men comic shit because that's not what he's a fan of, just the games.

now back to your copium intake, Inhumancel

>>149069857
Jubilee is a walking nuke, it's probably not that hard to make a cool moveset for her it's just a matter of actually doing it

>>149065249
How do you know he likes Sentry because of that fucking movie? Seethe, bitch, seethe hard.

>>149070121
>because of that fucking movie
every Sentry fan is a zoomer irrespective of the movie, this truth has held for years before the MCU made him popular again

>>149070121
Anon, Sentry was created in the 2000.

>>149065183
I think she's a real possibility, she's popular in Japan. There was a poll back in 2012 for DLC requests for MvC3 done on Pixiv with like 35000 votes. Some interesting picks
>1. Venom (Eddie Brock)
>2. Ms.Marvel (Captain Marvel)
>3. Green Goblin
>4. Hisako Ichiki (Armor)
>5. Gambit
>6. Psylocke
>7. Songbird
>8. Nico Minoru
>9. Black Cat
>10. Rogue
>11. Lizard
>12. Chase Stein
>13. Carnage
>14. Cloak & Dagger
>15. Hope Summers
>16. Mysterio
>17. Thanos
>18. Emma Frost
>19. Red Skull
>20. War Machine
>21. Moon Knight
>22. Darkhawk
>23. Blade
>24. Cable
>25. Molly Hayes
>26. Mockingbird
>27. Beetle
>28. Ultron

>>149070392
>in 2012
I wouldn't put a ton of stock in that.

>>149070392
No FF?

>>149070392
>8. Nico Minoru
>12. Chase Stein
>25. Molly Hayes
Runaway was popular in japan? Also
>22. Darkhawk
Wtf is he doing there lmao.

>>149070196
>>149070289
retards the oldest a zoomer would have been in 2000 is 3 years old

>>149070926
Yes, comics are for kids.

>>149070813
Jo Chen anime style covers for the early series.

>>149070813
>Darkhawk
Design-wise, that guy is basically a power ranger, I could see Japan being into it.

>>149070939
3 year olds can't read retard

>>149070121
>How do you know he likes Sentry because of that fucking movie?

BECAUSE THE SENTRY SUCKS!

>>149071317
IN MY TIME THEY COULD

>>149071317
>he couldn't read at three
Jesus Christ.

>>149071431
How many people do you know wich learned english and espacially how to read english at 3 without having it as their mother language.

>>149070042
I don't read inhumans, I just like the rest of Marvel vastly more then X-men and can't stand the fanbase for it or the way a lot of X-books are openly transparent about hating the rest of Marvel.

Given the 4 character swap I think its safe to say the entire F4 will be available

We get Cyclops but it's Natsu.

Was going to say Sabretooth, but I got a better villain pick

>>149066478
Injustice has done a lot of damage to characters like Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, etc.

Not to mention I don't see people talk about the games nowadays anyway, just the stupid edgy story.

>>149072859
it's the same with mortal kombat, people only care about the story. nobody likes actually playing netherrealm games, and i can't blame them

>>149064071 (OP)
I know some of the mutants of the have abilities that make them visually interesting, which is probably good for a game like this. Mercury, Pixie, Sunspot, Marrow, probably some others. Not like they're big draws on name-recognition, but their powers have some spectacle that might be fun to see adapted to this genre.

>>149066372
It's literally Daredevil's neighborhood. Come on, dude.