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Where did it go all so very very wrong? Spider-Man is the only good book, the rest are unreadable trash.
If Marvel were smart they’d cancel everything but Spider-Man, or, better yet, nip this whole reboot in the bud and try again in 10 years, when they might have a better stable of writers.
What a waste!
Kind of crazy that DC won, in that Absolute has 3 good titles (Batman, Superman, and Flash)
>>149067527>SupermanAaron's hands should be cut off, everything he writes is Absolute garbage.
Wolverine is the only bad book, BP is good again after meandering for a year, the rest three have been consistently great, the Incursion crossover was pure trash and Ziglar keeps ruining Miles' character more and more, Absolute universe is good too, your ragebait is ass try better next time, thread over
>>149067545Nah, that’s Ewing. He gets all this praise from tasteless retards then you read his shit and it’s just fucking garbage
>>149067501 (OP)Hickman wrote the early stuff, and he is writing Spider-Man. It's always going to be about who is writing. If Wells wrote ultimate It would've been garbage from the beginning. Except that he can probably relate to Maker since they are both salty cucks. But you understand what I'm saying.
>>149067501 (OP)Seems to me like in terms of alternate universes, Spider-man is literally the only thing to ever really be good and survive.
>>149068186Yes, Hickman is literally the only good writer Marvel as right now. The rest might legitimately be illiterate
>>149067659Sounds more like you meant to reply to
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>>149068706That was such a weak response lmao
I’d delete that if I were you
>>149068749I agree,
>>149067659 had a weak response and should've deleted it because he upset OP
>>149067501 (OP)When Carol wasn't part of it
>>149067501 (OP)The Ultimates is the backbone of this universe and it's one of the lesser books.
>>149069124>lesser booksYou’re underselling it: it’s the least book
>>149067501 (OP)When they gave it to Hickman and he proceeded to turn it into masturbatory "I AM SO FUCKING SMART" bullshit instead of just bringing back the Ultimate Universe that people wanted. Also, I'm almost certain nobody actually READS Ultimate Spider-Man as I have never seen anyone actually talk about it, it's plot, its characers, etc. People spite buy because of how bad ASM is but they don't actually read it.
>>149068697Hickman is one of the worst writers ever.
>>149072388Bland, interchangeable characters
>>149068697he can't even write a readable Aliens vs book, and that's a low fuckin bar anon
>>149067501 (OP)Funny I don’t think any of it outside of x-men is good at all, including Spider-Man. Ultimates and Black Panther are by far the worst though.
>>149071678No one wanted 1610 back, it sucked shit.
>>149074515You wanted it back, you dumb fake-contrarian
>>149067678>thinking Ewing is worse than AaronYou're also Absolute garbage
>>149074515I never wanted it back because I knew it would just be used as a license to racebend and sexuality bend characters like crazy, well beyond what happened in the original UU.
And guess what? That’s exactly what happend!
NUltimate sucks compared to the real ultimate universe.
>>149067501 (OP)>>149067527The in real time angle sounded good on paper but actively fucks with a lot of plotting because any meaningful plot or storytelling gets off screened during the monthly jump forward, a problem the Absolute Universe doesn't have to deal with
>>149069598C'mon it's better than UBP and Wolverine
>>149072388It's genuine insanity to me that this book has been running for over a year and half the cast have full stop done nothing of note with the plot, to the point that some of them don't even really get lines of dialogue they just stand around in the background
>Ultimate Invasion
>literally no invasion of Ultimates
>>149067501 (OP)>Where did it go all so very very wrong?Jonathan Hickman
It went wrong the moment Marvel decided to relaunch the Ultimate universe based on Hickman's nonstop Reed/Doom wank. Of course it was all going to end up unreadable garbage.