My FUARKING HERO spends an entire day listening to the cries of raped and mutilated toddlers while waiting for an attention-whoring bitch to stop being sad. YAAAAASSSS SUPAHMAN IS HOPE YAAAAAAAAAASSSSSS!

>>149077896 (OP)
Other superheroes did it for him. Flash could stop all of that without trying.

>>149077896 (OP)
All Star did it better.

Honestly a bit cringe though. So many teen girls did this kind of stuff for attention.

>>149077896 (OP)
Women don't commit suicide they commit the most mildly harmful attention seeking behavior. They don't jump off buildings they take a small handful of over the counter pills and drink maybe a whole bottle of wine whilst constantly messaging/phoning their boyfriends, massively exaggerating what the have done for drama and calling it a "suicide attempt" when they wake up the next day a little sick with a mild hangover.

>>149078074
>All Star did it better
cap

>>149077896 (OP)
asshole
could have asked them to turn off the lights

>>149077896 (OP)
This is always the problem that arises from having mad Superman as powerful as they did. After a certain point, his strength becomes so great that not using it to do more becomes a willing endorsement of the suffering around him. After a certain point, his supersenses become so absurd in their range and clarity that he cannot plead ignorance of that suffering. His speed becomes so great that he can no longer claim an *inability* to get there in time, or even that doing so is much of an imposition on him.

Forget this specific page. How many people have died because Clark was too busy cosplaying as a journalist at the Daily Planet so he could simp for Lois Lane? Whether or not its his "responsibility" to do so or no, is a philosophical question, but the fact that he had the ABILITY to save all of those people, the KNOWLEDGE that they were in danger at that specific moment in time, and CHOSE to do nothing to help them becomes irrefutable.
And you cannot reconcile that truth with the moral paragon of pure good that DC wants Superman to be. Which wouldn't be a problem, except they removed all of the barriers that would normally excuse his inaction due to human limits.

Test

I remember reading a Superman story with the exact same plot of "Supes patiently waits for a suicide attempter on top of a building to decide not to go through with it" except the attention whore was a fat balding wagie. Am I tripping #mandelaeffect or does anyone else remember something like that?

>>149077896 (OP)
Maybe stop raping and mutilating toddlers so he doesn't have to listen to that, asshole.

>>149077896 (OP)
Man, imagine no one really gave a damn about you at the point of doing the action of suicide.
Then the hero of heroes, shows up, and instead of automatically getting your ass out of there, he's the only being on earth that actually tries to understand why you feel this way.
He's not belittling you, he actually wants to feel you safe, thats what is superman doing with this kind of people.
I mean even if the person tried to make the move to kill himself, superman would catch him anyway.
I know the whole world has something against people who just wants to be good, maybe is because people became cynical or feel being good is lame because it makes you boring and make you part of "the system"
I know this place is mostly into powerscaling, but is kinda disheartening 99% of people hate good boy-scouts characters nowadays.
The only well liked boyscouts are probably spider-man, flash and mcu captain america, but always get back to power scaling.
Doesn't help the rest of the world see superman as a walking American propaganda when he's actually more than that, but people only see hollow stuff like power scaling, a walking American flag and a Gary stu because he have "no weakness" apart kryptonite.
I'm not a hard-core superman fan, but personally I really want to be like him, he inspires me to be a better man. I don't want him to lower him down to my level to feel good about myself like a lot of people do. He's an archetype, he's what's supposed to be the man if the man wanted to be the best in brains, brawns, morals ans ethics.
But let's be honest in modern ages, moral and ethics and being a good man in general aren't really popular topics nowadays, in real life an incredibly low percentage of people actually have those traits, and to be honest, that kinda sucks.
Very few want to better themselves, much less are inspired by people that does, I guess the ego and competitive thinking see this kind of people as a treat, or an inverse mirror of who they really are.

>>149077896 (OP)
>sees superman preventing a suicide
>immediately imagines child molestation
uh, okay anon

>>149079289
So what you're saying is that he should put the whole world in a bottle?

>>149079289
Superheroes do not have an obligation to save or protect the public, especially since they aren't paid. They do it when they can and if possible just like any normal person.

You're such a mentally ill retard you can't understand this basic philosophy.

>>149080716
It's hard to be better and to care.

At my wagie job, there's me, and there's a price checking device with a sign that reads 'CHECK PRICE HERE' and all you need to do to use is run the bar code under the reader. It's trivial to do. But every day I get dozens of people who profess that it's too hard to use and make me do it for them. I get a dozen people who just come up to me and ask me to check the price for them and when I go to the device they make a remark to the effect of "oh I didn't even know this was here."

And it gets fucking exhausting. I can only imagine what it's like for cops and health care professionals who deal with people who have actual problems.

>>149080935
If superman was in full costume having a chat with a hotdog vendor down the street from a burning orphanage, taking no action to save the children burning to death inside, would that not change how you see Superman? Is his indifference to suffering not disqualifying for his status as a hero or a moral paragon?

If so, whats the difference between that situation and Superman being 100 miles away from said burning orphanage, considering that can both still hear them crying for help AND easily get there in time to save them across such a distance?

>>149080716
tldr
Man the fuck up or kill yourself, pussy

>implying he isn't moving super duper fast and stopping all that other stuff, so fast that he simply appears to be floating there

>>149077896 (OP)
I don't see YOU going out and saving all those dying babies either, OP

>>149081080
NTA but DC Universe isn't the place, or at least used to not be, where you worried about mundane problems not getting solved without a superhero help, unless you talk about places like Gotham

>>149077896 (OP)
How much did that spotlight cost?

>>149081080
Anon, nothing exist in a comic book world except what's been drawn on-panel. It's like this because the author wanted to use the concept of Superman to explore the mentality of a suicidal individual and what it really means to help them. In the depicted moment, it is an objective fact that there is literally nothing more pressing happening anywhere that Superman can sense. The author built the story that way.

If that story isn't interesting to you, that's fine. But just say it. Say "I think this comic is kinda boring and I don't like it." Don't try to justify your distaste as due to some imagined moral failing of Clark Kent.

>>149081241
>Don't try to justify your distaste as due to some imagined moral failing of Clark Kent.

If it was imagined, you wouldn't have to hide from the question. You'd be able to answer it with conviction rather than flee it in cowardice.

>>149078007
This. OP is a faggot.

>>149079289
Superman is just one man, hes not omnipotent, nor omniscient, people think of him as some kind of god, when hes just a guy with powers on a colorful suit,
He knows how is to feel you fail to people, in all start he couldn't save his father from having a heart attack, even if he flied at super speed, he couldn't end world hunger, because that mission is way more complicated than having good intentions.
Even if he wasn't a journalist, you think one man, can save every single being on earth?
We used to have a page here about how superman saved all the letters people gift to him, one who were just positive messages about how they admire him or are so thankfully superman saved them; then you have another bunch of letters about how people hate or are really disappointed on superman because he couldn't save their relatives, they were disappointed or letdown he couldn't save the day, simply fix their personal probles, or having the same opinion you posted right here, because he "supposed to save everybody".
In that story a henchmen for a major villain is the one who discovers those letter on the fortress of solitude, the main Villian think is just a case of overinflated ego and self-importance, while the goon understand superman keep all of them to have a reminder of his failures as a hero, and understanding his sense of honor and selflessness.

People think superheroes are executives, legislatives and judicial, as if heroes are policemen, judges and executioners.
The idea of superheroes is how some people of the community want to help people in bad situations, to make a better good, the main objective of them is saving lifes, but not at the cost of their own morals and ethics.
People complain about batman letting the joker live, I can assure you, ending someone's life is not an easy choice for someone who has actual ethics and morals. People want the hero to kill because he has the "power" to do it, but never realize if the hero wants to do such action.

>>149077896 (OP)
The raped and mutilated toddlers had it coming

>>149081080
Depends on what kind of hotdog he gets.

>>149079289
Is kinda scary how this post is something the main villain lex Luthor could say.
As if superman magically could fix everyone's problems, as if the existence of superman is a complete fallacy to him.

I can't even imagine being so tone-deaf you'd tell someone actively trying to commit suicide to hold on a minute because you have something more important to do.

>>149081701
Sentry is the definition of mentally ill and even he made a system to make sure he was using his time in the best way to save the most people.

>>149081832
But he could. Superman could probably fix world hunger, cure all known illnesses, end all war, end all resource problems, and more within maybe a day. Maybe an hour, given the way some people talk about him.

The fact that he doesn't do so, or at least doesn't at least try to do any of this without turning into some kind of wannabe fascist dictator is absolutely fucking pants on head retarded if you try to square this with Superman being this ultimate symbol of hope and peace.
Literally the only argument against it besides the shitty dictator strawman stories like Injustice is "m-muh humanity needs to grow organically" which is both fucking stupid and contradicted within the actual meta fiction of DC itself where humanity in continuity barely ever grows or changes.

>muh Lex
Lex is an evil twat who has no interest in helping the world, his inclusion into this argument has never made any sense and he ultimately just becomes another strawman when he pulls the "why don't you help humanity Superman" card to justify why he burned down another orphanage.

>>149082142
That's the main problem man, sentry and superman are complete diferent beings.
Maybe sentry can, to my knowledge he doesn't have much depth as a character, but I guess you're right.
>>149082240
>But he could. Superman could probably fix world hunger, cure all known illnesses, end all war, end all resource problems, and more within maybe a day. Maybe an hour, given the way some people talk about him.
We literally have a story about how superman fails on those regards. I invite you to read it, is a pretty cool story, its called superman peace on earth.

>>149077896 (OP)
Superman isn't perfect, that's why Batman is better. Hes not a image of a god that protects everyone, hes just a peak example of humanity that fights back against the darkness

>>149081701
>Superman is just one man

Hes not, hes a alien demi god who thinks like one. He can shut that part of himself off anytime and become a enlightened cosmic being thata above our petty perspectives of mortality with his own alien viewpoints. He plays the paragon boyscout for optics and to indulge normal guy activities for kicks.

>>149082314
>Hes not, hes a alien demi god who thinks like one. He can shut that part of himself off anytime
What a way to completely misunderstand a character. I will forever hate how writers made popular the evil superbeing trope.
Homelander, the viltrumites and injustice are the perfect example of it.

>>149079289
Others are getting mad at you but you're correct

>>149082447
Eh... at the end, other dude is right about how people are interested in powerscales. Is happening right now.

>>149079289
You're entirely correct.

The stupid part is that this stems from JUST the super-hearing. Drastically reduce the range of it and this discussion wouldn't be happening. Is that too much to ask? To lessen one power out of many?

>>149077896 (OP)
Everyone wants to do their version of Superman or Batman saving the suicidal person or the scared child, and it's just not even remotely as impactful when you've seen it so many times.

>>149082411
You are a fucking moron if you see "muh alien demigod" and immediately think "oh so he's le BAD. REEEE HOMELANDER". Fucking hell.
He was brought up well by the Kents and is a good guy but at the end of the day he's still an alien demigod. That's why there have been tons of stories about how at the most fundamental level he truly does have issues about connecting to humanity no matter how much he LARPs as one.

>>149081080
Mostly because that burning orphanage is probably getting saved by A) Firefighters, or B) another superhero who might actually have powers better suited to firefighting.

>>149082561
It's the absurd superspeed and vision too. And the fact his home in the Arctic usually has wondrous tech that could fix every problem on Earth.

>>149082593
You think, your way of thinking embody every single version of superman, when superman has a lot for variations with different ways of thinking.

>>149082314
If he did that, why the fuck would he care about the petty mortals or their perspectives?
Go read Watchmen if you want a god-like being behaving as a god-like being would, shitass.

What's up with the guy samefagging his own post, he's literally talking to himself.

>>149082637
It applies to pretty much every major version of Superman, including the one from mainline comics. DCAU, DCEU, Donner, every one.

>>149082282
I have read the story and like every other smug basedjak story that goes 'heh, Superman CAN'T just fix every problem, chud' it devolves into a retarded strawman that collapses in on itself when you think about it for more than two seconds and is immediately contradicted in other stories where Superman literally builds miracle devices that can warp reality (and not just hand delivering small boxes of food) but instead uses it to fight some other costumed prick like Darkseid.

The Superman in that story is also so weak that he struggles to dodge a missile while carrying a ship, which actually would be fine and the story's main message would somewhat make sense if that's where Superman's strength and speed consistently stayed, but instead other writers need to have him move at quintillions of times the speed of light while carrying the weight of a galaxy nowadays.

>>149081832
>As if superman magically could fix everyone's problems, as if the existence of superman is a complete fallacy to him
Philosophy 101 terrifying cape-slop eaters explains a lot of western civilization.

>>149079289
Supe simps seething at self evident truth

Superfags realizing they can't just BTFO the usual 'you can't just fit the whole world in a bottle' strawmans in this thread is a fun watch

>>149083192
You notice this a lot in superhero topics.

'Batman doesn't kill Joker' has gotten memed on because of purposefully bad faith arguments on the pro-Batman side where they paint the anti-Batman side badly, and then will just kind of clam up as soon as you start posting the times Batman has gone out of his way to save Joker's life, many many times.

'Marvel mutants deserve to have their powers removed or feared' always gets framed as le genocide, muh gay conversion camps whatever the fuck and then people post the times when mutant powers awakening has been extremely dangerous for both the mutant or those around them.

The comics touch on the very surface level of these issues, give the "bad views which are more or less just a natural logical conclusion of a hero's concept" to an overly evil or openly unhinged strawman like Jason or Trask or Lex, and then completely forget about it outside of those stories. And the fans just happily eat the slop up.

>>149082835
>comic writers being complete inconsistent, while never trying to acknowledge past writers stuff.
Welcome to comic books 101 buddy.

>>149083623
>the reason Superman doesn't just save everyone is actually just [bad writing]
Huh, you sure showed me

>>149077896 (OP)
He's actually moving super fast, so he's solving all those problems while keeping an eye on this potential jumper.

>>149078074
>All Star did it better.
This.

>>149083780
All writing would be bad if Superman saved literally everybody. Stories need conflict in order to function and be interesting. Superman needs to NOT be able to do some things in order to exist.

The character you're arguing Superman should be is more akin to Stardust the Super Wizard.

>>149082314
We have enough superman but bad stories to show why that doesn't work. Shit we even have stories where batman tries that with supe's powers and goes bat shit crazy.

Just move on.