>this was a lower middle class house in the 80's

>>149088014 (OP)
And homers dad had to sell his own house to cover the down payment

>>149088014 (OP)
That was what middle class homes in America generally looked like until the mid-00s. Housing prices went fucking insane starting in the 90s but there was enough momentum from people holding onto homes to keep things relatively stable for a while. We're literally living in the least-affordable period for housing in American history, by a really significant margin.

>>149088419
not initially canon so fuck off

>>149088014 (OP)
That's what a lower middle class house looks like in 2025, you're just a neet with no future.

>>149088489
>he posts, while waiting for xis mom to push the tray of tendies under the door

>>149088484
In varying degrees the whole Western world is having the same problem. I know that investment firms and real estate speculators are a massive part of the problem, but were they not so much of a thing until the last ~15 years?

>>149088522
They were always a thing, the difference is that there wasn't a cultural conception of a house being an "investment" as one that intrinsically beat inflation. Houses were, shockingly, seen primarily as long-term places to live in very recently, and real estate agencies hopped on the idea of the house as an investment and promoted it for pretty obvious reasons.

It's a cartoon, it's not real.

>>149088484
>That chart
I feel like I've been fucking held up and robbed. What the actual fuck. No wonder all these old shows have people working basic bitch jobs and owning a full home. Holy fuck.

>>149088488
so you're saying Smithers is black and Mr Burns isn't 104 years old

wait did Lisa even meet Stephen Jay Gould who died 15 years before she was born? DID SHE EVEN MEET LINDA MCCARTNEY?

>>149088964
lol welcome to the pure hell of the dead american future, housing will never collapse and even if it did corporations would buy it up and hold it ransom with demands you pay them millions for a shack

>>149088014 (OP)
Al Bundy was also somehow able to afford a nice house, a stay at home wife, and 2 kids on his salary as a shoe salesman. A constant joke of the show was how poor he was, but he looks wealthy from today's standards.

And there is an animated remake coming, so it's /co/ related. I wonder how they will still address his upper class lifestyle on a shoe salesman's wage.

>>149088522
Big issue was changes to the way banks were handling mortgages. Essentially real estate companies were incentivized to build more homes so the banks could give out more mortgages which they bundled and sold as securities. 2008 was when that bubble burst and we haven't really recovered from it.

>>149088014 (OP)
all sitcoms had ridiculous houses. your average family didnt have that. especially on a blue collar worker's salary. I hope zoomers don't go off of sitcoms and tv for how life was. tv only showed bits and pieces of pop culture

>>149089111
THIS IS A GREAT IDEA WHAT COULD GO WRONG?!?!

>>149088973

>DID SHE EVEN MEET LINDA MCCARTNEY?

Unfortunately.

>tfw my parents bought me and each of my siblings our first homes
I thought that was normal until a friend of mine (and /vr/) told me I was an out of touch rich kid because I said that I wasn't rich cuz my house was only $120,000. They said that the fact that not only did my parents just have $120k lying around to give me but that I would refer to it as /only/ $120k proves that point. And now, I own two properties, the house my wife, kid and I live in and a rental property.
>>149089111
>2 kids
Three. I forget the younger one's name, but he has another son. I was actually thinking of this show earlier today, the scene where the girl from Venezuela or wherever says that America is really different because Al is a powerful shoe salesman whereas back in Venezuela, shoe salesmen are so reviled that they're pitied by the lepers.

>>149089686

Two kids. You might be thinking of Seven, the kid they adopted for a season or two.

>>149089111
Pleeeease tell me that reboot isn't still happening...

y they house pink?

>>149088014 (OP)
They're a struggling lower middle upper class family

>>149089686
When was someone able to buy a house for $120k? The mid 80s?
Houses are like $300k as a starting price even for really shitty ones and a million for something decent, not even a mansion, just something not shit.

>>149089736
Didn't they have a much younger kid at dinner point who just kinda came out of nowhere and disappeared just as bizarrely? iirc, Bud even commented on it, like, where the fuck did this kid come from?
>>149090106
2012. They paid $120k cash for my house. The building I bought two years ago is considerably more expensive.

>>149090469
>dinner point
Some point, fucking autocorrect. Had anyone else's autocorrect gotten worse lately? Mine's gone to shit over the last week.

>>149088014 (OP)
>this was previously chuck's in the 80s

I wish I could afford a house.....Its all I've ever wanted. A space of my own, a home to be proud of

>>149090469

Yeah, that was Seven. They told him to go upstairs in one episode and he never appeared again.

>>149090106
>When was someone able to buy a house for $120k? The mid 80s?
Anon, in the mid 80s you could buy a house for like $50k. Inflation is a thing of course, but house prices have still risen far above inflation.

>>149090469
Where were houses going for $120k in 2012?

>>149091112
Yeah.
The other big problem is even if you do somehow manage to get the money to buy it you need steady income to maintain it and pay the fucking taxes on the property as well that those blood sucking insurance bastards.

I hate this shit money game.

>>149088964
People used to be able to afford a college education by working basic minimum wage jobs too
Now the entire system is designed with the intention of making everyone debtcucks. You can't own a home, you can't own a car, and if you want a job that will earn you real money you have to pay thousands of dollars in student loans

>>149089137
>your average family didnt have that. especially on a blue collar worker's salary.

The federal government used to offer no-money-down mortgages so long as it was new property but stopped after the S&L scandal in the late '80s.

So, yeah, people absolutely used to be able to afford houses like the Simpsons on a blue collar salary, especially if the house was built between the mid-'60s and late '80s.

>>149088014 (OP)
Forget about The Simpsons. How was John able to afford a house that big, and with a yard and a garage on a cartoonist's salary?