Anonymous
6/21/2025, 6:56:10 AM No.149091528
What did Mike Judge do so right that Brad Neely and Michael Cusack couldn't?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:14:01 AM No.149091684
>>149091528 (OP)
Better writing and characters
Better writing and characters
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:16:00 AM No.149091704
>>149091528 (OP)
I’ve only watched KotH but the mom in the Neely show looks sexy
I’ve only watched KotH but the mom in the Neely show looks sexy
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:39:15 AM No.149091903
>>149091528 (OP)
Mike Judge makes all his shows based on real life experiences.
Mike Judge makes all his shows based on real life experiences.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:55:07 AM No.149092042
>>149091528 (OP)
Greg Daniels
Greg Daniels
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:44:33 AM No.149092725
>>149091528 (OP)
Cusack and Neely were "safe funny" while KoTH would actually handle more complex or unsavory topics and cultural concepts. It was one of the few shows to call out modern parenting for being cold and unfeeling
Cusack and Neely were "safe funny" while KoTH would actually handle more complex or unsavory topics and cultural concepts. It was one of the few shows to call out modern parenting for being cold and unfeeling
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:49:40 AM No.149092749
>>149091528 (OP)
you just can't beat propane
you just can't beat propane
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:50:42 AM No.149092755
>>149091528 (OP)
Exist before streaming and nothing else
Exist before streaming and nothing else
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:29:00 AM No.149092971
>>149091528 (OP)
Neely was forced outside of his wheelhouse to make something more TV-friendly and as a result he made slop. Many such cases. He should've stuck to making odd but amusing shorts.
Neely was forced outside of his wheelhouse to make something more TV-friendly and as a result he made slop. Many such cases. He should've stuck to making odd but amusing shorts.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:03:10 PM No.149093329
>>149091528 (OP)
>Brad Neely and Michael Cusack
Two millennial "cartoonists" who made shitposts for the internet VS one man who worked in Silicon Valley, got the hell out, then went into animation before it became a corporate ran hellscape? Gee, I wonder what's the skill difference bertween them?
>Brad Neely and Michael Cusack
Two millennial "cartoonists" who made shitposts for the internet VS one man who worked in Silicon Valley, got the hell out, then went into animation before it became a corporate ran hellscape? Gee, I wonder what's the skill difference bertween them?
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:29:03 PM No.149093435
>>149091528 (OP)
The KOTH characters are based on real people. Koala Man is based off of like stereotypes of a straight-laced man, but doesn't feel real. It's why the two drug addict characters are so much better; they actually feel real. The Harper House sucked because it goes against Brad Neely's strangths writting morally gray characters who can be decent but have enough moral flexability to allow for wacky madness. Trying to push that into a family sitcom where the main characters have to be good people just doesn't work. It's why people like Queeblo and China Il so much.
The KOTH characters are based on real people. Koala Man is based off of like stereotypes of a straight-laced man, but doesn't feel real. It's why the two drug addict characters are so much better; they actually feel real. The Harper House sucked because it goes against Brad Neely's strangths writting morally gray characters who can be decent but have enough moral flexability to allow for wacky madness. Trying to push that into a family sitcom where the main characters have to be good people just doesn't work. It's why people like Queeblo and China Il so much.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:54:58 PM No.149094507
>>149093435
>>149094465
I'd like to add that this exact quality is what led to The Goode Family failing.
>>149094465
I'd like to add that this exact quality is what led to The Goode Family failing.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:56:47 PM No.149094528
>>149091528 (OP)
He partnered up with a simpsons writer who was also the guy behind the American adaptation of the office
There's a reason why he's credited as the co creator of the show despite the fact KOTH was entirely Mike Judge's idea. Almost everything everyone loves about how grounded and relatable the show's characters are despite being conservative is thanks to Greg Daniels.
He partnered up with a simpsons writer who was also the guy behind the American adaptation of the office
There's a reason why he's credited as the co creator of the show despite the fact KOTH was entirely Mike Judge's idea. Almost everything everyone loves about how grounded and relatable the show's characters are despite being conservative is thanks to Greg Daniels.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:57:32 PM No.149094533
>>149093435
Speaking of, Koala Man often feels like a show Cusack made on network request rather than being in line with his actual larger body of work.
It's literally "adult animated sitcom but AUSTRALIA" without any of the more shitpost-y humor and designs he usually has.
Speaking of, Koala Man often feels like a show Cusack made on network request rather than being in line with his actual larger body of work.
It's literally "adult animated sitcom but AUSTRALIA" without any of the more shitpost-y humor and designs he usually has.
Anonyrnous
6/21/2025, 4:11:50 PM No.149094630
>>149091528 (OP)
He made King of the Hill pre-2020, for one.
He made King of the Hill pre-2020, for one.
Well well well
6/21/2025, 4:43:10 PM No.149094886
Jo-hoooooooooohn Redcorn
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 6:46:49 PM No.149096144
There was nothing wrong with Koala Man
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:22:44 PM No.149096497
>>149096144
There was nothing great about it either.
There was nothing great about it either.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:37:05 PM No.149096662
>>149091528 (OP)
Mike Judge simply understands middle America better than them and the format doesn't play to Neely's or Cusack's strengths at all, those shows felt more like network mandates rather than something they came up on their own.
Mike Judge simply understands middle America better than them and the format doesn't play to Neely's or Cusack's strengths at all, those shows felt more like network mandates rather than something they came up on their own.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:08:43 PM No.149098187
>>149094886
Peh-Eggy Hill
Peh-Eggy Hill
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:09:54 PM No.149098202
Anyone listen to his audio book about Grant? Been thinking about picking it up, love wizard people.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:23:15 PM No.149098367
Mike Judge loves people. Even those he hates, he understands, because he truly strives to know others, which comes from a place of love. The archeology professor from The Arrowhead comes to mind. He could very easily be a surface level dig into academia elitism, but the series does acknowledge the power a person like that can exert upon the uneducated, and makes him both more fearsome and interesting to pit against the Hills because you know he's an intellectual threat.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:36:04 PM No.149098530
>>149098367
I think Peggy is probably one of the best examples a character kind of built to annoy at a surface level while the actual writing for her makes you empathize with her despite her personality, she makes bad choices sometimes but she's never really a cruel person full of spite, just over confident and under informed 90% of the time. And she is also in Hank or Bobby's corner when the shit actually hits the fan.
Judge writes characters for animation so well because they retain a cartoon 'goofiness' while still existing in a semi-real world of dry humor.
I think Peggy is probably one of the best examples a character kind of built to annoy at a surface level while the actual writing for her makes you empathize with her despite her personality, she makes bad choices sometimes but she's never really a cruel person full of spite, just over confident and under informed 90% of the time. And she is also in Hank or Bobby's corner when the shit actually hits the fan.
Judge writes characters for animation so well because they retain a cartoon 'goofiness' while still existing in a semi-real world of dry humor.