This debunks all your arguments you clowns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB075gRMPZY

And this even more:
https://youtu.be/eargrlvfc14?t=4

>>149092804 (OP)
Reminder DC writers are too pussy to make one of Bruce's current batfamily members suffer on the same level he did.
Bruce's trauma is a privilege

>>149092804 (OP)
Batman doesn't kill because it is a part of his character and his specific bat-dressing mental illness

>>149092804 (OP)
They'll just come back anyways it doesn't matter.

>>149092804 (OP)
You know why it's a thing and you know that it's never going to stop being a thing so what's even the point of complaining about it? If you can't accept comic books for what they are, stop reading comic books. Or make your own damn comic book where the villains die constantly.

>>149092934
>stop reading comic books
Meanwhile in the Dick Tracy comic book!
He shoots criminals dead and they stay dead.

>You know why it's a thing and you know that it's never going to stop being a thing
Because the comic book authority forced them? And Marvel/DC readers are man children who will never deviate from what they grew up in the silver age?

>>149092934
>Le merchendise
LOL
>It is canon that there are multiple jokers and all you need is 1 crazy and some joker venom to make a new joker.

They could have 5 generations of jokers who where made by the previous ones or decided to imitate the original clown prince of crime.

Like you know in batman beyond there is a entire joker gang

>>149092934
>>149093078
>Noo I can not kill the joker! Think of the merchandise!
>Despite there being a entire canonical multiverse full of 1000s and 1000s of almost identical jokers who can take his place (or you switch the story to the other multiverse)
>Much merchendise
This is DC fanboy cope mode.

>>149093068
So read Dick Tracy instead. Stop demanding that an orange be a banana and just get a banana.

>>149093078
>>149093101
I'm just saying, it is what it is, and if you don't like what it is, you can walk away at any time.

>>149092883
The super villains only come back because at the current time the characters are under copyright and held by DC editorial. Wait until the public domain frees these characters and DC will have no choice but to habitually kill off villains because if they don't do it someone ELSE will and make money from it while they get no money.

Wish copyright didn't last so fucking long though. Fuck you Disney and may Bono be burning in Hell.

No, a hero can't kill. The Ten Commandments include "thou shalt not kill", so killing isn't Christian, and you can't be a hero without being Christian. Simple as that.

>>149093158
>The Ten Commandments include "thou shalt not kill", so killing isn't Christian

Gee, someone should have told them that a few hundred years ago.

>>149093155
Anon, you do realize trademarks exist, right?

And that trademarks last forever since they can be constantly renewed.


It is why despite Steamboat Willie being in the public domain there are no movies or shows capitalizing it outside of horror movies (since horror falls under parody laws).

>>149093184
That's because no one seriously gives a fuck about Mickey Mouse in general. For characters that are truly popular like Batman you know someone will try serious efforts when multiple necessary copyrights expire. And many people are starting to adopt a Fuck Corporations attitude so copyrights may be reduced.

And amusing enough trademarks have been proven wrong before the most famous example is the Sherlock Holmes trademark recently when all his books' copyright expired this year. Trademarks aren't the ultimate defense shitty estates and companies think they are. Many of these old fossils their days are numbered.

>>149093155
>The super villains only come back because at the current time the characters are under copyright and held by DC editorial. Wait until the public domain frees these characters and DC will have no choice but to habitually kill off villains because if they don't do it someone ELSE will and make money from it while they get no money.
LOL you do nto know that DC and Marvel literally give trash characters one page cameos becasue if they do not do it every 20 years or so then they will lose the trademark this is why the most based villain in existence the Penny Plunderer shows up in every backdrop every decade or so!

>>149093158
>The Ten Commandments include "thou shalt not kill"
Is it
"thou shalt not kill"
or
"thou shalt not MURDER"
?
Because both examples are hilarious in their own way.

>The Ten Commandments include "thou shalt not kill", so killing isn't Christian
God:
>"thou shalt not kill"

Moments later also god
>Kill all the woman and children and destroy this city totally!

BIBLE EVERYONE!

>>149093171
>Gee, someone should have told them that a few hundred years ago.
See above.

>The Ten Commandments include "thou shalt not kill"
So all Christians are mandatory vegans since eating of animals involves killing the animal right?

OH LOOK
Also that is not in the 10 commandments. Literally a made up christian nonsense they twisted the bible into saying.

REAL 10 Commandments:
https://youtu.be/axvUvdd78gM?t=4
READ YOUR BIBLE!

>>149093291
You can justify killing anyone if you try hard enough. Hell, an excuse isn't even a prerequisite.

>>149092804 (OP)
Batman used to kill people no problem way back when. The no kill rule was added when comics started being geared towards children later down the line. So nowadays you got people trying to tell "adult" stories about batman but arbitrarily still keeping the no kill rule. So you've got two options: get rid of the no kill you or stop trying to make capeshit for "adults".

>>149092804 (OP)
You retards keep acting like these are real people who need to make real ethical decisions. These are fictional characters, you autists.
A Batman who goes around killing people would just be The Punisher in a dumb outfit, the no-kill rule is a huge part of his drama and character.
Superman does kill very occasionally, but he's just too strong to really need to, ever.
Superman shouldn't kill Lex Luthor because that would end of the best villains in fiction, limit the number of stories that can be told, and also go against the optimistic and light-hearted nature of most Superman stories.

>>149093453
>Batman used to kill people no problem way back when
he stopped killing people within less than a year

>The no kill rule was added when comics started being geared towards children later down the line.
the no-kill rule was added really early in the comics run, bill finger not only approved of the direction but he retconned away all his earlier instances of killing people
he went so far as to say he wished he thought of it sooner

>>149092804 (OP)
I'm not watching this

>>149092804 (OP)
Grimdark capeshit is even more retarded, OP.

>>149092804 (OP)
>>149093116
There's also manga if you hate "no kill" rules in some comics. Quite a few characters die and stay dead in most manga series. In certain manga, however, character deaths don't have as much weight because of certain gimmicks (pic related).

>>149094266
If manga isn't your thing and you prefer comics, then there always…

>>149094309
Invincible sucks dude

>>149093453
>Batman used to kill people no problem way back when. The no kill rule was added when comics started being geared towards children later down the line.
Yep the retarded Comics Code Authority and to this day we drag this shit around despite DC/Marvel pretending that they are le mature now.

> So you've got two options: get rid of the no kill you or stop trying to make capeshit for "adults".
BASED BASED BASED.
Literally no one is rioting in the streets that there is not enough killing in Duck Comics. If you want to make silver age sill cape shit stories where the flash fights a guy who can turn himself into a living boomerang go for it, no killing needed.

However if you are trying to make your capeshit mature and for adults and the villains are actually psychos who kill people you start having a massive disconnect and the suspension of disbelief is shattered.

Either make a mature story where the heroes kill or make silly stories for children. Also can DC/Marvel get their shit together? Like they try to have their characters swear however it is always interrupted by the plot. Either make your le mature capeshit have real swearing or do not even try!

>>149094166
>the no-kill rule is a huge part of his drama and character.
Imagine being retarded.
Literally ridiculed in the video:
https://youtu.be/oB075gRMPZY?t=9

>Superman shouldn't kill Lex Luthor because that would end of the best villains in fiction
Imagine writing this. Like imagine.
Lex Luthor is pure shit removing literally DC Jeff Bezos can only improve things, however Superman only has literal trash for villains.

>>149094266
>character deaths don't have as much weight because of certain gimmicks (pic related).
Daily reminder that the magic resurrection balls improved DBZ. You can characters go all out and get killed before getting resurrected.

None of the retarded
>Oh he did beat him almost to death and was about to win so he is stronger.

>>149094977
So you're saying even if I beat up Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, and Jack Dempsey all at once, I'm not stronger cause I stopped just before they died?

>this Robot Chicken sketch epically DEBUNKS your heckin argument
Shut the fuck up, faggot OP.

>>149092804 (OP)
Super man *Avoids* killing. He doesn't not kill. He avoids killing because the entire point of his character is to represent hope. Striving for another, better tomorrow. And part of that hope is believing that you don't need to murder niggas to get your way. Superman restrains himself because he's a good person, but is willing to take the gloves off.

Batman doesn't ever kill because he's mentally ill. Bruce's entire worldview is informed by the fact that the murders of his parents must never, ever happen again. He puts these people in arkham because Bruce needs to think there's a way to fix them without murdering them, because he sees himself as no better than them. If he kills the joker, it'd just be another insane man murdering another.
Joker war, despite being a bit of a dogshit arc, did it best. You have the joker who KNOWS he could defuse the bomb, and batman needing to make a choice between chasing Harley, and letting the joker die. It's a more extreme version of the Jason Todd choice. And at the end, Bruce chooses Gotham over Joker, because Joker admits he's choosing his fate by not disarming the bomb.

TL;DR op is a faggot.

>>149092804 (OP)
Hey OP why haven't you killed anyone you think deserves it?

>>149092881
>his specific bat-dressing mental illness
What's Green Arrow's mental illness?
What's Aquaman's mental illness?
What's Crimson Avenger's mental illness?
What's Wild Dog's mental illness?
What's Air Wave's mental Illness?
What's Superman's mental illness?

>>149092804 (OP)
The real problem is no police, military or random civilians killing villains.

>>149092804 (OP)
Batman doesn’t kill anyone in that skit, in fact it points out an aspect that hardly anyone ever calls out, “why don’t they just sentence the criminals to death?” I mean Gotham should have no issue with this, and villains like joker can be tried on a federal level.

>>149093291
Old Testament God was ruthless and petty. He literally let a man lose everything and suffer to the point of death because He was running a lousy bet with Satan on how much it takes for one to curse His name.

This kind of thinking just exposes a tenuous grasp on the line between fiction and reality.

>>149092804 (OP)
>too stupid too come up with your own arguments and need someone else to think for you
opinion discarded

>>149095151
>cause I stopped just before they died?
Classic DC/Marvel tactic also present in invincible
Because the next time
>Ah yes I was just about to recover from this fatal hit and kick everyone ass.

Like invincible in this shit show.

>if I beat up Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, and Jack Dempsey all at once
Everyone can do that since you do not understand the importance of surprise attacks and equipment + terrain.

>I shot Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, and Jack Dempsey all at once in the back when they where not expecting it!

>>149095442
>>>149095442
>Risk MY DYING
What ESL wrote this?

>[ALL OF THIS RETARDED COPE]
It is unreal how hard you are trying to defend retarded stories for man children who pretend they are deep and mature.

Either these writers stop pretending their childish stories are deep and mature and write kids comics or they actually write mature stories.

Not that DC/Marvel are not dogshit where they milk the same characters for 50 decades and nothing is of any importance because it is all retconed all the time.
Other comics did do the hero who kills so did all of manga.

>>149095897
>>149095971
Personally I've always wanted a story about the Joker being killed by some random armed civilians, maybe a security guard or something, in self defense. It would be the funniest way for the Joker to die since he's terrified of the idea of getting done in by some nobody and being forgotten. Makes me think who the various Bat people would react to the news that some guy killed the Joker.
I could see Batman throwing a pathetic tantrum because his favorite mass murdering clown that he wanted to fix was killed. I could also see him being totally fine with it since it was legal and justified self defense, and he would probably offer the guy a job at Wayne Enterprises.
I can see Jason Todd tracking the man down to buy him a drink.

>>149095897
>The real problem is no police, military or random civilians killing villains.
Only for batman.
Daily reminder that everyone can buy a magic joker removal device it is called a gun. The joker literally has insane plot armor because if he was real he would end up dead from some guy shooting him.

Same for Bane (normal guy on steroids)
Killer crock (very strong deformed freak)
The mad hatter (crazy human with no super powers)
Scarecrow (crazy human with no super powers)
The Penguin (gangster with no super powers)

While bizarro is immune to all weapons and kryptonite.
So is metallo.

The more you think the less sense the batman universe makes.

Actually encountering bizarro as a normal human would be the most pants shitting thing imaginable. The only escape is to kill yourself.

>>149095971
>in fact it points out an aspect that hardly anyone ever calls out, “why don’t they just sentence the criminals to death?”

Yea this is another question the batman fanboys can never answer.

>>149095860
Aquaman blames himself for his mom leaving his dad so he went along with his dad's scheme to make him a superhero.

>>149096019
>He was running a lousy bet with Satan
Satan gods best friend who makes cool bets with god.

>Old Testament God

Old testament god:
>Thou shell not kill
Moments later
>FUCKEN KILL EVERYONE OVER THERE!

>>149096039
>nooo you must make your own version of the same points people did bring up for decades!

How about I do not waste my time with you clowns instead?

>>149096214
I accept your concession

Why doesn't Batman just cuck the Joker? That'll teach him.

>>149096276
I mean, I'm pretty sure Gotham is just suppose to be an even shittier fantasy version of New York, so I imagine it has strict gun laws so I doubt anyone living there could just buy a gun to kill the Joker.

>>149096383
>Batman fucks Harley
Would the Joker actually care? I don't really think the Joker gives the faintest fuck about her.

>>149096274
>>149096274
>I could also see him being totally fine with it since it was legal and justified self defense, and he would probably offer the guy a job at Wayne Enterprises.
Or because batman has a gun phobia totally freak out how evil the gunman is.

>>149096400
>so I imagine it has strict gun laws so I doubt anyone living there could just buy a gun to kill the Joker.
Yea however criminals in Gotham and New York get guns! Did the joker never jump a paranoid math addict who has a gun?

>>149096276
If we make guns lethal.The Penguin becomes the most op one out of your lineup

>>149092804 (OP)
>watching some faggot that is into cuckolding and taking his opinion seriously.

>>149092804 (OP)
this idiot is also blaming stan lee for all the bad spider-man comics. fuck this loser.