Apologize

>>149118741 (OP)
YES FINALLY A RETURN TO REAL ART!!
THOSE DECADES OF BULLYING DISNEY INTO RETURNING TO FORM WORKED!
Uh oh that means all the lazy artists will actually have to learn how to use pencils and pens and do actual labor.
I hope they bring back cels as well.

>>149118741 (OP)
>Pixar flopped
Disney is back

>>149118741 (OP)
We have ai. We don't need their nothing productions with a to z stories anymore.

>>149118741 (OP)
Cool now turn Pixar into a 2D studio

...now that a.i. so good.

>>149118741 (OP)
SEETHE DIGITAL KEKS
MAKE ARTISTS WORK AGAIN

I hardly care. Just look at anything made by modern Disney, and tell me you have any degree of real enthusiasm.

>>149118767
>Tranime
ugh
>I hope they bring back cels as well.
muh (in)cel animation is the biggest meme ever

>>149118851
Anon it's gonna be way harder to sneak woke shit into 2D because an executive is just gonna tell them to redo an entire scene instead of going on a computer and changing a PNG image.

>>149118767
Stop spamming, birchy

>>149118861
>muh (in)cel animation is the biggest meme ever
Cel animation:
https://youtu.be/wkFh8lqPxPw
https://youtu.be/Uvm22_TdnlI
https://youtu.be/RyaLLgLtaKs
https://youtu.be/6WayJjrLbx4
https://youtu.be/nHlhHImKxyE
Cel will ALWAYS be superior, remember.

>>149118741 (OP)
No because it's going to be AI.

>>149118741 (OP)
>could be
>teased
WOW
IT’S LITERALLY NOTHING

>>149118767
>Uh oh that means all the lazy artists will actually have to learn how to use pencils and pens and do actual labor.
He says this like there isn't a glut of people begging to work in 2D.
The big reason why 2D indie animation has been taking off is that there's literally thousands of these fuckers looking for work.

>>149118741 (OP)
I'll never happen

part of the CGI push was because 2D animation studios started unionizing

>>149118971
Anon I want more 2D and less 3D slop.
>The big reason why 2D indie animation has been taking off is that there's literally thousands of these fuckers looking for work.
And it's based, maybe they should bring back cels too, some of the millennial women who ruined the industry can be demoted to paint mixers and colorists like their ancestors before.

>>149118741 (OP)
>hand drawn
Aka AI generated images slighted edited so we can say humans worked on it

It'll be years before they can rebuild the pipeline. The two 2D movies we got early in Bob Iger's tenure were largely made by whatever veteran animators they could get back and Mary Poppins Returns and the Enchanted movies were all outsourced.

>>149118741 (OP)
>Could
>Might
>May
>Can
>Maybe
>Indicates
>Sources say
>Experts say

>>149118912
Some of these are gorgeously animated especially the Nadia opening and the Superman short maybe cels should come back if we can even imitate this at all

>>149118912
Nah. Disney's quality actually IMPROVED a lot when they finally switched to digital. Just compare any Renaissance film to any Xerox-era film, and you can see how big the difference is. And I'm saying this as someone who doesn't really care for the content of the Renaissance very much. But honestly, this statement I'm making is a neutral observation, and really just shows that Disney stopped caring, more than anything else. The best cel animation that Disney did was in the 1930's and 40's, and then it became a grossly neglected art in their own material. But still, cels were never what made animation great. In a vacuum, they're just pieces of plastic, and the artist is the real spark.

The article seems to suggest without actually saying that this was why they brought Ron Clements back to the studio, but we’ll see.

The Pixar originals implosion makes it slightly more likely, but 2D animation is a bit like sitcoms with studio audiences, studio executives are so biased toward modern cutting-edge technology that they don’t want to believe old-school formats are still popular even when they are.

>>149119091
Yeah but does anyone even care about the digitized era of Disney 2D?
I mean for TV yeah the digital era was fantastic for them, they knew how to implement it for TVs.
Like for their films the magic was there in the digitized ones but they were missing that umph, that missing feeling that cel gives you.
Princess and the Frog was fantastic, but it would've been a masterpiece if it was done on cel.

>>149118767
These movies are going to be 90% AI generated. You will be pining for the days of CG animation

>>149118767
how old are you bro

>>149118767
I understand where you're coming from but most of these films are just gonna incorporate AI, maybe Disney will be smart enough to train an AI to do in-betweening for their animation

>>149119120
Fine
As long as they only used it in inbetween frame

>>149119113
Maybe, but at some point a technology becomes impossible to use. I’m told that the old-school film nitrate stock makes old movies look way better than the less flammable film they switched to in the 1950s but you can’t actually ask people to make new movies on a type of film that constantly catches fire.

It’s a daunting enough task just re-training people in 2D techniques, we’ll never be able to train enough people to use cels as well as when that was the only way to create an animated film.

This thread is reminding me of that one overhyped vtuber “AI-generated anime” that was actually just tracing over 3DCG.

>>149119008
>>149119120
>>149119149
>AI
It could work if Disney made their own like >>149119149 said, all they would have to do is get some artists to feed it animation and art and just have it do in between animation.
Honestly sounds like something they'd try.

We shall see in the future.
I'm not hopeful, but it'll be interesting.

>>149118741 (OP)
They’re going to do 1 of 2 things
>make the first attempt a DEI type movie
Or
>use AI interpolation to do everything but key frames

If not both, either of which will guarantee failure and they’ll never do another 2D again

>>149119212
>make the first attempt a DEI type movie
I hope they do it because it sounds funny

>>149118861
redditor

>>149119221
Disney is not gonna waste millions on a film that's handrawn just to add woke shit.
They're already going back to Pixar movies and shows and removing anything gay.

I'm thinking if they do this they have to start off with a sequel, they get one chance to make this work if they are going to keep 2d around and I don't think they can risk the initial picture on an original. It needs to be a Lion King 2 or Lilo 2 or Aladdin sequel or something of that realm
At the same time it is somewhat feasible because critical praise and Oscars and so on are falling out of their grasp entirely and if they want to be that studio they have to return artistic qualities to their film. Plus the Grubhub style of things like Elio and Wish is part of why their recent films are bombing

>>149119212
They’re absolutely going to come up with some kind of cutting-edge new AI or other technology to replace in-betweening.

If nothing else, the only way to convince studios to bankroll something old and uncool is to tell them you’ve found a new and cool and cheaper way of doing it.

>>149119291
irish slop got glazed and made mad bank just for being 2d

>>149118741 (OP)
Ai can't do 3d?

>>149119268
>Waste millions
They'll just pay a handful of the millions of out-of-work artists in ramen, it'll cost them like $500.

why? isn't 3d working out for them?

>>149119480
Cartoon Saloon movies? Those don't make "mad bank".