https://youtu.be/18QQWa5MEcs
Last hope for the MCU

>>149152696 (OP)
Cautiosuly optimistic. I'm more than willing to have Doomsday and SW be absolute dogshit (which is the most likely scenario) if we can have an at the veryleast decent FF film.

The leaks are real then

it's another fucking prelude to the next film

>>149152767
Iirc the leaks show the film is pretty much self-contained. Only direct leak to Doomsday is the PCS.

>>149152696 (OP)
>Last hope for the MCU
Spider-man movies always end up doing well, and if they made an Iron Man 4 bringing back RDJ somehow or an original Avengers reunion they'd make good money too.
Remember how when Shang-Chi and Eternals disappointed it was the end of the MCU until NWH came out?

>>149152750
RDJ as Doom is the only thing that’s souring the whole thing for me.

>>149152804
I thought the leaks were basically (major ending spoilers)

They refuse to give up the baby and lose, earth gets destroyed just as they're going through a portal to the MCU

>>149152816
It's the biggest showcase of desperation the studio has done. If he is indeed a Stark variant you're throwing away all the potential of the character to just do a bastardization, and if he's just Victor then it's a weirdass desicion whose only ever purpose was to attract public consciousness.

>>149152888
That ending was fan speculation really. Leaks from insiders and people who attended the test screening have it that the FF succeed at driving Galactus off Earth by throwing him into a portal leading him to a remote part of the galaxy. Sue dies in the final battle but Franklin revives her.

>Pedo pascal as Senhor Fantástico
pass

>>149152810
Didn't Shang-Chi do well for a covid release?

>>149152696 (OP)
First step
Final hope

>>149152696 (OP)
This nigga looks zesty as fuck

>>149153096
Doomsday will probably make bank regardless given how it's likely to be a full on nostalgia wank, and sadly it's been shown audience will always eat that shit up.

>>149152696 (OP)
>Stone Smurf in the background

>>149153095
Yes, it was the second biggest domestic box office of 2021 behind Spider-Man: No Way Home.

>>149152696 (OP)
Can’t wait to do something else when this comes out.
Marvel spent years pushing away their core fans and we moved on to greener pastures. I don’t feel bad for them at all

>>149153340
>The comic book movie was genociding me!

I feel like we have about 4 - 5 minutes of movie preview and have seen a total of 6 seconds of Mr. Fantastic stretching, which is a bit of a concern.

>>149153373
The guy who shared his thoughts after the test screening said that his powers feel underutilized, and the don't do anything really creative with them.

>>149153347
Yeah, bro. Definitely wanna go waste $20 seeing this slop now that you’ve convinced me

>>149152696 (OP)
I'm going to be real with you the Fantastic Four cartoons are probably the only good extra media these characters have had, I couldn't care less about this movie.

>>149153479
Big FF reader but I still haven't seen any of the cartoons (mostly because I've had it difficult to find them). I'm mainly interested in WGH, is it any good?

>>149153404
Well yeah, it's an MCU movie.

>>149153404
>Mcu being dogshit
GOOD

>>149153495
It's solid standard action 00's show, the 90's show is weird it starts off it's kind of throwaway goofy cheesy Saturday Morning show for the first season and then the second season it becomes more traditional Fantastic Four overall it's fine, it has my personal favorite voice for Dr.Doom though I like how he just sounds like a classy anime villain instead of the standard accent or deep voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi86yeXB9pI

>>149153404
Man, we could have had a stretchy fun Ms Marvel series that followed the only runs of hers that people have ever liked.

Instead we got boring energy powers and a writer who felt she had to give a lecture on the Partition of India

>>149153539
>Turning the Statue of Liberty into a fucking monument of himself
You just gotta love Doom man

>>149153555
I know Reed mostly relies on his brain instead of his powers but he still does some crazy shapes from time to time, so yeah it's a bummer they only stick to basic stretching. Live-action has proven to be a difficult realm to translate stretchy powers; I haven't seen it, but I've heard Netflix' One Piece is the only piece of media where they have nailed them.

>>149153648
you need to accept they're goofy, everywhere always tries to make them realistic and it always looks terrible

>>149153648
Even One Piece is just basic LONG ARM stuff.

>>149153579
I honestly hate how much Marvel trips over themselves to make a fascist despot look cool. Every time writers start glazing doom, I just wanna roll my eyes. Secret Wars 2015 was so fucking bad it got me to almost entirely drop Marvel

>>149152696 (OP)
How would Jack Kirby and Stan Lee feel about if their were still alive?

the fuck is up with ben's voice

>>149153679
I really like the character but his cinstant wank really shows a big misunderstanding around him. He is fun and complex, but to call him the moral option is merely a superficial reading. I personallt like 2015 SW but most people just glaze over God Doom and praise him as the hero despite the comic itself depicting him as a lazy, self-indulgent fuck who could have restored the multiverse immediatley but spent 8 years doing nothing in order to fulfill his fantasies. As of now, OWUD has been pure Doomwank, and it seems like they'll try to use the "actually, he's been doing some bad stuff behind the scenes so he shouldn't be in power" card instead of exploring why the notion of an autocrat on itself is a negative thing.

>>149153716
Jack would rightfully call them out. Not for the adaptation job, but for not paying him royalties.

>>149153716
Stan Lee would be be very happy with the money he'd be getting, Jack Kirby would be pretty unhappy with the money he should be getting but isn't.

>>149152913
omg, are they gonna do "he's an evil twin?" That would be SO funny.

>>149153811
He's a variant of Stark just like Fox Johnny Storm is a variant of MCU Steve Rogers. Nothing more.

Rumor is he will use his resemblance to Stark to trick the Avengers into trusting him, though.

>>149153453
B-but the Galactus head popcorn bucket!

>>149153555
>the only runs of hers that people have ever liked

>>149153890
It's true though

Superman won.

>>149153837
I do think they'll do more with the RDJ casting than just a plot convenience. However it's ultimately executed, the meta aspect will probablybe there, specially since a big part of the sagahas been the films recognizing themselves as works of fiction.

I really hope this won’t crash and burn if only for that theme. Giacchino fucking delivered.

>>149153905
But you haven't listed them.

>>149153716
Who the fuck cares? Stan's only there to collect a check for doing another cameo.

>>149154360
Waiting for Galactus' theme. If what they played last SDCC was a snippet of it it sounds dope.

>>149153740
Gotta show the actor somehow

>>149153910
I'm on board with both, surprisingly, though it's kind of hard to imagine a world where both studios are releasing good cape films at the same time.

>>149152696 (OP)
Pedro Pascal would actually look perfect as Reed Richards if he just shaved his mustache off for the movie.
It's not like it'd take him long to regrow it.

>>149153740
The actor's playing him with a less exaggerated Brooklyn accent.

>still not a single hint of RDJs Doom anywhere at all
Doomfags, im nervous....

>>149152696 (OP)
oh wow, I really hated that trailer, like a lot. Usually I just give these things a pass when they make dumb changes or whatever or write it off as y'know can't be 1:1 with the comics but I actually hated this.

there's so many, many errors all over the place from characters to usage of powers to the ol' fuck the audience this doesn't belong to you anymore trope.

>>149153740
it's bad, that's what's up with it
the actor doesn't look or sound anything like ben grimm

>>149156303
Ben is from Manhattan.

>>149156318
He's most likely only in the PCS.
Keep in mind, this film was well into the writing process when Feige & co. decided to pivot from Kang to Doom, so he was never going to feature in a big capacity.