>be animated movie in the west
>"look at how accurately CGI technology can emulate 2D hand drawn animation!"
>why don't you actually just make 2D hand drawn animation?
>"look at the technology!"

>>149162024 (OP)
dude what

>>149162363
I think OP is criticizing the fact that people opt to use 3D methods that attempt to emulate 2D animations, instead of just making 2D animations.
If it is I agree. Most 3D animations fail to convey the same feeling of hand drawn animations. That damn image OP posted gives me conniptions

>>149162024 (OP)
This is obviously AI slop, they definitely used some image-to-3D model

>>149162024 (OP)
what is that?

>op is that same kind of faggot that cries when he gets vanilla ice scream instead of chocolate when both are good
expressive emoting without uncanny valley is all that matters in animation
bet a faggot like you would had wanted something like ReBoot or Veggie Tales should had been done in 2D

>>149162775
>gets vanilla ice scream instead of chocolate when both are good

>>149162024 (OP)
>"look at the technology!"
they dont say this
they arent trying to show off their tech
they are trying to show that they can implement techniques meant for drawn animation into CG animation, because it looks nice

>>149162024 (OP)
This movie is so fucking ugly. Picrelated the target audience.

>>149162775
it becomes a bit of an issue when vanilla is all you niggas got when everybody loves chocolate

>>149162024 (OP)
Idk this looks soulless

>>149162838
wah wah wah
bitch bitch bitch
just dont watch
are you a fucking npc?
do you have to consume every bit of slop?

>>149162775
>when the vanilla and chocolate are both good but jew companies put all their stocks in vanilla so that's all you can buy

>>149162852
>just don't watch
Oh don't worry, I won't.
And I won't watch the next thing.
And I won't watch the next.
I'll be over here enjoying 2D animation by sticking with Japan, because they actually give a fuck.
Enjoy getting more of your slop because you lack conviction.

>>149162855
more like for 50 years vanilla was the only flavor that existed
but then, in the 90s, chocolate was invented
it tasted terrible at first, but the flavor was being rapidly refined

but as chocolate tasted better and better, more and more people were buying it over vanilla until chocolate replaced vanilla as the main offering
they have even started making variations of chocolate with vanilla in it, feeling that vanilla can be used to enhance the flavor of chocolate
vanilla is now mostly a specialty flavor you get in pints while chocolate has been the main flavor you get at the grocery for 20 years now

but no matter how much chocolate improves, people keep coming back and saying that vanilla has soul and heart and that they should start making giant tubs of vanilla again
but vanilla has mostly reached its peak in terms of formulation, most of the recent advances have been to add chocolate into it
so it will probably never have the same market dominance it had when the only other flavor was rum raisin (claymation) because it just isnt seeing the same constant advancements in flavor technology that chocolate is getting even now

>>149162865
To be fair, Japan is making an increasing number of 3D animations, and has been incorporating 3D into 2D animations for a while, but even so their 3D-focused animations tend to be not so good as well. IMO.

>>149162923
>but vanilla has mostly reached its peak in terms of formulation
The people who made Klaus said they wanted to advance 2D in terms of lighting and 3D space because they felt 2D had severely stagnated while 3D was making rapid improvements. And they're right. 2D, as far as clean-up, texture, lighting, and camera movement are concerned, can benefit greatly from more experimentation and development. We've pretty much mastered being able to emulate any style in 2D from Loving Vincent to Ernest & Celestine to The Old Man and the Sea, now let's rival it on a filmmaking level. How do we get a 2D version of Toothless to have similar texture work as he does in 3D?

>>149162954
man kingdoms animation started so bad, but its a solid series.

>>149162977
I started to try and watch it, since everybody says it's great and all, but I find the CGI hard to stomach

>>149162809
Why is Thom Yorke photoshopped in there?

>>149162966
Klaus is an incredible looking film. Whatever happened to the studio behind it? I am surprised they never made anything else

>>149162954
90% of the japanese animated movie from the last year were 2d. And in 2 days they are releasing 2 2d movies.

>>149162966
>And they're right.
I completely disagree. IF they were right we would have more series that looked as good as the best episodes of BTAS. Or as interesting and experimental as aeon flux and mtv stuff but they are in minority.

>>149163031
They have something else in production, but I don't know if it's just taking a long time or if it's in dev hell.

>>149163056
But just making more stuff that looks like BTAS is not progression. We know that people can get really good at making 2D drawings move. You don't have to look any further than Thief and the Cobbler to see the drawing capabilities of the human hand. How about digital tools that allow you to add real-time lighting to 2D drawings in a way that doesn't look like bad pillow shading?

>>149162363
>>149162024 (OP)

Already a thread >>149159249

>>149163022
Thats the original painting

>>149163094
>But just making more stuff that looks like BTAS is not progression.
I is , when we have so little of it.
>You don't have to look any further than Thief and the Cobbler to see the drawing capabilities of the human hand.
That was literally direct by what people consider the absolute best western animator to ever exist. Richard Williams was a 1 in a billion person and there is no one else like him. If the best of 2d animation is just a 1 of a kind movie that hasn't been replicated then maybe we haven't actually progressed enough and rather we have just been in a constant regression.

>>149163113
Why is an infinitely more detailed and photorealistic Thom Yorke there

>>149163131
Was Roger Rabbit real-time lighting? I thought they had to do it frame-by-frame.

>>149163170
>I thought they had to do it frame-by-frame.
they did

basically, they had a roger rabbit mannequin on set which would serve as a reference for the lighting conditions
then they would draw that on roger rabbit when they animated it
its something that would be trivial these days but there was no alternative back then

>>149162809
Regular people?
Or are they all jews, blacks lesbians, trans mexicans, chinese and women?

>>149162775
IMAGINE BEING SO FAT YOU LOOK AT COMPUTERS AND SEE FOOD