Why was Nixon so prevalent in cartoons?

I'm not american and even as a kid I vaguely knew who he was because of his animated portrayals. Can't say the same for any other US president (other than Clinton because of his Animaniacs appearances).

He was really popular and than wategate, which modern generation Americans don't really think about

Every generation has their own Drumpf

Ironically Nixon is just iconic, which I'm sure none of his would-be ideological enemies would have wanted. He's actually quite smart, too, go listen to some of his interviews, especially after he left the Presidency. He dead-eyed what was going to happen to Russia after the Soviet Union collapsed.

Because, love him or hate him, he was a fascinating individual. If Shakespeare were to write a play about any POTUS, he'd almost certainly choose Nixon first.

He was the last real statesman.

>>149164026
>He's actually quite smart
He wasn't. He was just persistent with enough power backing him to eventually result in some successes. His intelligence was at best about average.
>He dead-eyed what was going to happen to Russia after the Soviet Union collapsed.
Many did.

>>149164018 (OP)
>>149164026
despite how people will try to paint him, he had good morals (hating fags is good morals), he knew the political game and was a very effective administrator. That being said his voice is unique and funny hence why he is used so much.

>>149164018 (OP)
He's got a funny face. Makes drawing him fun. His voice is very unique too.

>>149164026
I mean I grew up with the mental image of Nixon as a comically wicked president because of his cartoon cameos but now I'm studying US history and he seems pretty average, even moderate in terms of policies.

I get his run ended the way it did but that can hardly explain why he became such a boogeyman

>>149164021
You're a fuckin moron

>>149164043
>>149164045
Guess he's just naturally cartoonish.

He was a traitor and a criminal. Anyone sucking his dick in this thread is also a traitor.

“The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove that I attend from time to time-the Easterners and the others would come there-but it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, the San Francisco crowd that goes in there. It's just terrible. I mean, I don't even want to shake hands with anybody from San Francisco...You know one of the reasons that fashions have made women look so terrible is because the goddammned designers hate women. Now that's the truth. You watch...some if those fellows, they have the flat-chested thing with horrible looking styles they run. That was really the designers taking it out on the women. I'm sure of that.” ― Richard M. Nixon

>>149164018 (OP)
>was Nixon so prevalent in cartoons?
>Was
Aren't some of those examples from "new" cartoons?

>>149164043
>he had good morals (hating fags is good morals
Wrong on both account.

It's incredible how you get in your blind-spot that using state resources to illegally spy on your political opponents is actually very immoral.

>>149164248
You're right.
9 out of 12 of those cartoons are either made "recently" (in the last 10-15 years) or they're still ongoing.

Which males it even stranger because he's such a relic of a different era.
If you were barely old enough to remember him (let's say you were 10 when he left office) then you're now in your 60s.

>>149164018 (OP)
read a history book

>>149164307
>Which males it even stranger because he's such a relic of a different era.
Not for those who wrote those shows.

>>149164307
it's actually 10 out of 12.

>Futurama - ongoing
>Simpsons - ongoing
>South Park - ongoing
>Black Dynamite - ended 10 years ago
>American Dad - ongoing
>Family Guy - ongoing
>Gravity Falls - ended 9 years ago
>Bojack Horseman - ended 5 years ago
>Agent Elvis - ended 2 years ago
>Teen Titans go - ongoing

>>149164324
You're saying contemporary cartoons writers are all 50-80 years old?
that may be true

Both him and Reagan should've been shot. You know what, Carter too. I can say this because they're all dead and the FBI can't do anything about me saying this.
Only absolutely shit people defend Nixon of all people, and they're in this thread right now.

The Nixon mask is a reference to some movie or actual heist of bank robbers using president masks.
He's very easy to caricature, like if there was a word like "telegenic" but for having a naturally cartoony face
Only Futurama is really obsessed with him that much

>ask people why nixon was a bad president
>they can only ever mumble something about black people and gays

>>149164402
I guess Clinton was good because people can only ever mumble something about pedophiles or monica

He predicted Dan Slott.

>>149164402
He initiated an illegal wiretap of Democratic Party headquarters in Washington, then tried to cover it up by interfering with a Justice Department investigation and stonewalling a Congressional investigation, then resigned rather than face impeachment.

I know it looks minor league in comparison with Trump, but in the 70s it was a major betrayal of the American people and the oath he took.

"Gone like a Nixon file!" - My Dad.

>>149164354
see>>149164333
>Futurama
>Simpsons
>South Park
>Black Dynamite
>American Dad
>Family Guy
All of those show were initially wirtten by people who were teenagers when Nixon was president

>Bojack Horseman
Nixon appeared precisely because they were making a period movie set in a time when Nixon was President. It was about an idol of Bojack from when he was a kid, so it fits.

>Agent Elvis
It's Agent Fucking Elvis, of course the president is going to be Nixon. It was either him or Kennedy.

Nixon was everywhere for a certain period of media for some reason. Even in /v/idya.

>>149164402
This very thread has a post outright stating why Nixon had to resign.

You are not very good at this.

>>149164445
Explain Teen Titans Go and Gravity Falls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQpLNCRIxWA
Why the man who was the most infamous president in recent times is still so prominent in the media?

>>149164018 (OP)
Well known, distinctive character, distinctive look and voice. It's like how every 90's cartoon had Clinton in it at some point.

>>149164468
see>>149164477

>>149164368
Oh yeah and some other parts are just flashbacks or jokes about the 70's, and Nixon is very 70's. Like Elvis and the Carpenters 70's(all three of them met him). Pretty sure he showed up in a lot of Marvel comics at the time too

>>149164424
>some retard on your team initiates something illegal
>too late to fix, too much pressure, apologize and resign instead of trying to hang on to power
Thats called integrity

>>149164468
Don't a bunch of presidents show up in Go? There's a Washington episode, and they show up in the Real Boy song when Cyborg has the non-robot disguise

>>149164468
>Gravity Falls
It's from an episode set in a Wax museum, he was just one of the many iconic figures who were featured there.

>>149164445
The Black Dynamite cartoon was written by a guy that was born the year the Watergate scandal started.

>>149164497
No, it's not. Integrity is not doing it in the first place.

>>some retard on your team initiates something illegal
Sure, Jane.

>>149164511
>The Black Dynamite cartoon
The Black Dynamite Cartoon as a 70's aesthetic, Same principle as Agent Elvis.

>>149164420
>>149164402
Nixon pioneered the southern strategy, fucked manufacturing by opening chinese trade for outsourcing, purposely delayed peace talks in Vietnam so he could claim credit for ending the war (read: high treason), fucked the value of the dollar, established a shitload of cronyism in the government (he started the whole "the president has no limits and can do no wrong" bullshit), and after he stepped down his lapdogs Ailes and Stone built an entire propaganda apparatus so that no Republican president would be forced out of office again.

Nixon was the first domino that led to Reagan and Cheney and Trump. He's the turning point of American politics.

>>149164530
>ucked manufacturing by opening chinese trade for outsourcing
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting he is the one responsible for that shit.

>>149164530
He's a turning point. He didn't start the bullshit, he just made it work to his advantage, and that started new bullshit.
>>149164551
It used to be brought up more.

>>149164530
Forgot Reagan:

Reagan also destroyed the economy and infected the government with cronies that spout horse-and-sparrow economics to this day. He gutted unions and fired all the air traffic controllers, slashed taxes on the ultra rich, pioneered violently aggressive policing and "tough on crime" rhetoric, purposely stopped efforts to combat AIDS, shut down the country's mental hospitals throwing all the mentally ill onto the streets creating the homeless crisis, and committed more treason (Iran-Contra)
I could go on but you get it.

Also Clinton sucked too, his economics boom was entirely due to deregulating banks in a way that directly led to the 2008 crash and the motherfucker single-handedly crushed every program intended to help the poor in this country. If you've ever had to fucking prove to the government that you deserve food stamps or Medicaid or had your aid cut because "you make too much" or any of that shit you've got Clinton to thank.

>>149164018 (OP)
Unironically the greatest POTUS since Teddy Roosevelt. Also very unique in how he presented himself, giving him a lot of stage presence, even if not very positive.

>>149164028
He'd choose Washington, then Lincoln, then Jackson, then the last three guys, then Teddy Roosevelt, and then and only then he'd choose Nixon.

>>149164511
Black Dynamite is also literally about 70's nostalgia and satire so Nixon is obviously gonna show up, just like the Jackson 5 or early muppets

>>149164598
Carter gets let off to easily even though he set the stage for a lot of Reagan's worst shit. Really when the dems became republican lite

>>149164018 (OP)
He is the Peter Lorre of american politics. Also half of /pol/ wouldn't support him if they actually knew what his foreign policy was (hint: he makes Lyndon look like a school boy)

>>149164698
Half of them are just robots who fall in line and the other half can't vote so who cares
Nixon, the Chairman's strongest soldier

>>149164698
>his foreign policy
*Kissinger's

>>149164018 (OP)
90s culture made fun of Bill Clinton and 2000s culture made fun of W Bush, so this is no different

If the right people had been in charge of Nixon’s funeral, his casket would have been launched into one of those open-sewage canals that empty into the ocean just south of Los Angeles. He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe of a president. Nixon was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. Even his funeral was illegal. He was queer in the deepest way. His body should have been burned in a trash bin.

This board really loves being a contrarian and suck Nixon’s dick on a regular basis

>>149164658
It's not really Carter's fault that his loss gave neolibs in the DNC an excuse to push right

>>149164756
I see most posters here calling him for what he is, though.

>>149164530
>purposely delayed peace talks in Vietnam so he could claim credit for ending the war

You forgot the part where he actually expanded the war, and even invaded Vietnam’s neighbouring countries

>>149164756
This whole site. /co/ might be one of the few boards that would push back on it, but is still part of the rest of the site.

>>149164028
Shakespeare wrote plays to order for his patrons or plays that were takes on stories that were already popular because in his era copyright and censorship were carried out by the same dude and you didn't piss him off if you wanted to perform or be published

>>149164368
>>149164018 (OP)
presidents masks in this context are always a reference to Point Break (1991), which used the "Ex-Presidents" gang as a plot point

in this specific context, Cleveland is wearing the Nixon mask because of a joke about crime; I don't know or care why South Park did the same thing

>>149164268
>using state resources to illegally spy on your political opponents is actually very immoral
Nah. The DNC must be monitored at all times.

>>149164482
also this; Nixon was still alive to see the first 11 of his mentions/appearances in The Simpsons (theoretically, we don't know if he did)

in regard to his "I am not a crook" catchphrase, he clearly was crooked making this a further lie and he said that at a time when a) Presidents were expected to be broadly truthful, whether or not they actually were, and b) public officials caught in a lie were expected to resign, with dire polling numbers if they did not resign after lying, and c) he said that 8 months before he actually resigned and it hung over the remainder of his presidency; he resigned rather than face impeachment (which was a near-certainty)

Nixon had already been VP under Eisenhower and had no excuses as to being a political innocent caught up in someone else's criminality as President (his paranoid self-taping had already incriminated him and many others); his resignation destroyed Ford's career as well (Ford hung on as President because he was already VP, although the 76 election probably gave a lot of people ideas because of how close it still was, plus the Reagan elector thing, though probably ideas tempered by the 74 midterm results)

Nixon also knew his first VP, Agnew, was crooked - Agnew pled no contest to tax evasion and Congress strongarmed Nixon into taking Ford as his second (because Ford was a bonehead but basically OK); Ford's vacated House seat was won by a Democrat, Richard Vander Veen

as a result of Watergate cleaning out the upper levels of viable Republican candidates, Reagan (among others, and for other reasons as well) was able to become prominent as a candidate and eventually President; critiquing Nixon isn't just about Watergate, it's about the shitshow that followed as well; it didn't help that Nixon was the first Republican President in 8 years, only the second since 1933, and extremely different in policy and style from Eisenhower who would have cleaned his clock for pulling Watergate had Eisenhower not died by then

>>149164907
he's gonna nuke moscow as soon as he gets bored

>>149164907
Trump was on that island
So was a guy with a Richard Nixon tattoo on his back too, actually. Who met with an eceleb you probably like.

>>149164021
Makes sense. Watergate wasnt even rewlly a big deal if you think about it. Everyone was tapping phones back then. Nixon just got caught doing it. Wa just political drama stirred up by the Democrats.

Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, JFK, all have some very goofy cartoony aspects to them, whether in their voices or faces or mannerisms or backgrounds. Clinton is more important on Family Guy than Nixon, and it's because he was a fat sex hound who played the sax
You don't really see LBJ, Ford, or Bush 1 that often

>>149164907
Ok how about his fucking high treason
You cool with him purposely delaying the end of Vietnam to take power and credit for ending it?

>>149164925
See >>149164530
Nixon was a traitor and a monster

>>149164907
The Republicans have an endless list of sexual scandals with underage victims.

If anything, both of the parties should be kept on close watch.

>>149164520
>>149164268
>>149164424
Not an american but I can't take Watergate seriously as a scandal when exactly 1 year after Nixon resigned, the Church Committee confirmed the CIA was carrying out the analog counterpart of modern NSA mass surveillance

on top of that, they revealed the existence of MKultra, Cointelpro, Mockingbird and Family Jewels all at once

>yeah turns out CIA and FBI do in fact manipulate the media, harass and torment both high and low profile targets, kidnap and torture people, test all sorts of drugs on them, perform illegal human experiments (also to mind control their victims), wiretap and spy on everyone they feel like, control multiple KKK-like extremist groups and use them to attack or kill other targets, conduct psychological warfare on activists and minorities, also they set up high profile assassinations on foreign countries, all without any kind of oversight

>but whatever, have you heard the president was secretly listening to his rival? that's crazy bro, biggest scandal ever
absolute joke

>>149164982
Yeah, singling out dems is usually deflection for the shit they're also fucking guilty of. It's not good faith.

>>149164963
how?

>>149164999
Because they feel nothing can be done, people like to forget about all that.

>>149164018 (OP)
He's a hateable yet comical figure, similar to Bush W, Trump, and to a lesser extent Clinton.

Bush H, Obama and Carter all had their strengths and weaknesses, but generally weren't very boisterous, limiting their comedic potential. Obama in particular carried himself very well in terms of public speaking.

>>149164999
I'm aware of this but people don't like me talking about the CIA
This country is indeed a joke, a dark one.

>>149164999
>Well other people did bad things too so Nixon is basically innocent as a baby and
not a face of presidential corruption!

Lick that boot, baby. Oh yeah… just like that.

>>149164925
Way to rewrite history lol

>>149164033
Look at this retarded poster, it's indicative of that boomer liberal type of mentality on why he is so prevalent in cartoons; unhinged loyalty to a bought and paid for a uni-party political system.

>>149165179

>>149165036
Fucking read the post I linked for you, dipshit

>>149165116
that's exactly what I mean
Delaying the end of the Vietnam war (which caused God only knows how many extra deaths) is a much bigger crime and sin than fucking wiretapping, which again was already happening on an INDUSTRIAL SCALE by your own turbo-politically biased/conservative intelligence apparatus

but the same media they were caught manipulating (merely one year later) told you guys you must be the angriest specifically for that one reason in particular and their dumbass propaganda worked so well you're still reciting the script for free like half a century later
again, absolute joke

>>149164018 (OP)
Funny face that's very easy to portray on cartoons, and a political controversy which almost everyone can agree upon, making him an easy target, AND also apt for all age, as making fun of Clinton is valid, but won't fly on kids media if anyone starts making questions about the joke.

>>149164999
Counterpoint, Jack Anderson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Anderson_(columnist)

Wait, even after multiple whistleblowers in the last couple of years, people still don't know Nixon was set up?

>>149165296
Are you retarded?
Nixon successfully covered up shit like delaying the end of vietnam just enough to avoid prosecution, the wiretapping wasn't his greatest crime it was just what he went down for.

Capone went to prison for tax evasion, that doesn't mean that was his only or biggest crime.

>>149165394
No, he wasn't, anon.

>>149164530
>southern strategy
Based
>opened up China
Lifted a billion people out of poverty at the cost of manufacturing that would've gone to Japan/Mexico anyways
>purposely delayed peace talks in Vietnam
A necessity which kept South Vietnam alive for a few more years
>ended the gold standard
A sensible and healthy economic policy, steady inflation is good as it spurs both investment and consumption
>established a shitload of cronyism in the government
Ever heard of Andrew Jackson? This is how proper presidents act.
>after he stepped down his lapdogs Ailes and Stone built an entire propaganda apparatus
This is indeed how politics work.
>hurr but MY side doesn't run enourmous propaganda machines
First day on planet Earth?
Also
>the Moon landing
>end of woke Johnson policies
>navigated the energy crisis

>>149165444

>>149165444
>>established a shitload of cronyism in the government
>Ever heard of Andrew Jackson? This is how proper presidents act.
Corruption is good, actually.

the only notable good thing Nixon ever did was creating the EPA, and it took rivers to get on fire for him to do that.

>>149165394
There is practically zero reason as to why they would want to set him up in the first place. He was loyal to power the circles in washington and internationally. This isn't a JFK situation where he was going to challenge any of that.

>>149165296
>is a much bigger crime and sin than fucking wiretapping
And what about it, you retard. That doesn't make wiretapping any less grievous. A skyscraper isn't suddenly small just because there's a mountain, and a fag like you that's so obsessed with pushing a narrative so you can make yourself cry should pick either of those two to jump off of and kill yourself.

>>149165457
>>149165116
can you retards use at least ONE meme correctly once in a while?

nixon thread? nixon thread.

>>149165646
Read the post again

>>149165704
Meme here >>149165457
WAS used correctly.

>>149165795
lmao how

>>149166025
It called out someone who was convinced Nixon could do no wrong.

>>149166078
that's not how you use "bootlicking"

>>149166119
That's literally what bootlicking is, anon.

>Avoid needle drugs. The only dope worth shooting is Nixon.
-Abbie Hoffman

But what about Fidel Castro?

>>149165444
Trips wasted on a complete and utter retarded faggot

>>149164924
Trump never was

Also you are thinking of Roger stone

The media was out to get him and boomers and gen x are total media bootlickers

You'd think the universal Healthcare he wanted would make them a darling but most don't know about that

>>149164046
I've always looked at it from the lens that, since most cartoonists would have grown up with Nixon and he was the first President to have such a major scandal, that they grew up with the lens of "Nixon was evil" without understanding the whys of what he did. That and, as other anons pointed out, he's got a very unique face and voice that makes him stick out compared to a lot of other presidents

>>149166477
>The media was out to get him and boomers and gen x are total media bootlickers
No, anon.

>>149166538
Yes, anon

>>149166516
yeah, if those dumb cartoonists had just known that Nixon committed high treason by sabotaging peace talks to extend the Vietnam war they'd think he was swell!

>>149165444
Ending the gold standard was really an inevitability for the US but Nixon was the one who got it done. I can't imagine that if another President did it anyone would ever mention it beyond total spergs

>>149166477
The oldest GenX were like 5 when Watergate went down, Anon.

>>149166565
Begging you to take your meds and return to whatever political forum you peruse

>>149166653
mad cuz wrong

>>149166341
bootlicking means acting in an excessively servile way towards someone you want to gain favors from, particularly if it's glazing an authoritarian entity that's actively oppressing you

It doesn't mean "not sharing my assessment on a dead politician from half a century ago"

>>149166691
I think saying that Nixon and Jackson is how proper presidents act, specifically acting as unitary executives without real checks on their power is being pretty servile towards authority.

>>149166555
He brought it all on himself, anon. You do'nt get to behave like a complete shithead and then complain that media will portray you as a complete shithead.

>>149166691
Exactly this >>149167162

>It doesn't mean "not sharing my assessment on a dead politician from half a century ago"
Lol, that's not what the situation was anon.

>>149164018 (OP)
Pretty iconic figure for boomers. Watergate was a watershed moment for American culture which really marked where the majority no longer trusted or liked the federal government.

>>149164018 (OP)
He looked funny and sounded weird. Also for what he was he was surprisingly progressive for a Republican president.

What about Mikhail Gorbachev?

>>149164018 (OP)
>funny voice
>distinctive appearance
>major scandal
>no one liked him much since the 90s no matter their affiliation

>>149164925
Watergate broke confidence in the benevolence of the government that was already waning due to the Civil Rights and Vietnam. The crime and controversy also wasn't so much the tapping as much as what it revealed: Nixon's attempts to destroy and conceal evidence as well as even just the crude way he talked and him having guys like Liddy and Hunt on call to do shady and criminal acts for him made him out to be little better than any other thug which you'd expect the president of the United States to be better than.

>>149166649
And still making Nixon jokes out of imitating the boomers.

>>149168954
Only seen him in a video game

>>149164025
yeah but usually he's happening in other countries and he's called Mugabe or Galtieri and his ability to fuck everything up for you while making himself richer is limited by distance and relative exposure to his backwoods economic policy

>>149164925
>Everyone

the KGB isn't "everyone"

>>149164530
>he started the whole "the president has no limits and can do no wrong" bullshit
He was far from the first president to do an executive power grab, he wouldn't even be top 5 at this point.

>>149164026
He was considered the nicest president by far by longtime White House functionaries, like it wasn’t even a contest

>"Why was Nixon"
>"I'm not american"

Up to your usual tricks today again, OP?

https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/co.desu.meta/text/%22Why%22%20%22Nixon%22/type/op/

Why is there one anon trying to rewrite history about Nixon on the cartoons board?

>>149169739
its always crazy to me that these fuckers are at it for literal years, what kind of mental illness is this?

I'm playing a game called Schedule 1 and theres a little Richard Nixon bobble head in the game. And the dev is a single Australian guy so what gives?

>>149169630
but he did it in the era of TV and the beginning of TV news looking for sensationalism and drama(which wasn't new for news in general, but the 70's was the first time yellow journalism really hit TV)

>>149164018 (OP)
He slipped in on a banana peel and became paranoid, lest someone figure him out. People were killed or almost killed by him.
Imagine wearing a weird color hawaii shirt while on a stroll downtown, some rando greets you and you somehow make the secret handshake, next thing you know you're running for President. There's Nixon's backstory.