Thread 149165738

>Born in 2002
>Born in 2000
>19
>17
Nice
On a first time watch, I can see a noticable dip but it's not all terrible. I kinda don't like Weissmans attitude though. He seems kinda dickish.

>>149165738 (OP)
>>Born in 2002
>>Born in 2000
How the fuck were you born in 2 different years?

Who's illegal here? Beast boy?

>>149165738 (OP)
Have you seen Season 4 yet?

>>149165763
Beast boy was 17 and Perdita was 19
>>149165749
How fucking dense, dumb and stupid are you?

>>149165787
>Beast boy was 17 and Perdita was 19
isn’t the age of consent in most of europe like under 18?

>>149165738 (OP)
She dumps him and he becomes a drug addict and has a questionable relationship with a corgi.

>>149165853
Most of the time they weren't in America. Perdita was just fucking a minor in the states

>>149165738 (OP)
It's not surprising considering what Weisman intended for Mary Marvel and why she had to stop using her powers.

>>149165863
Nice

>>149165738 (OP)
>Beast BOY is 17
>Terra is 19

>>149165988
aoc is 17 in new york

>>149165853
I dont think in all of human history did a young 20 something year old woman ever get arrested for having a relationship with a 17 year old boy

>>149165738 (OP)
Sex with perdita and tara.

>>149166099
YES.
He's gonna cope with other hot blondes

>>149166504
Gar doesn't have much interaction with Terra. Artemis becomes her mentor/combat trainer. Gar is mostly dealing with trauma and drug addiction and going to therapy in the later seasons.

>>149165738 (OP)
I'm 6 episodes into season 3 and I can barely stand what I'm watching

>>149166616
If you don't like the new characters (Halo, Brion, Forager, etc.) then you're probably going to have a rough time because they're the focus for most of the season.

>>149166616
Season 4 is even more mind numbingly boring

>>149167091
I liked a couple of the mini arcs in S4 but some of them (the Mars trip, the Atlantis arc, etc.) were really hard to get though.

>>149167069
fuuuuck me

>>149165738 (OP)
Ok then tell me the good parts of the show?

>>149167225
Season 1 and Season 2

>>149167198
Halo defeats Darkseid's minions and the Anti-Life Equation with rainbow powers and starts using them/them pronouns. Also, Darkseid and by extension his son Orion both have autism for some reason.

>>149165738 (OP)
>see a random thumbnail for Wonder Girl and Batgirl vs Lobos
>want to rape the shit out of both of them
>mfw Cassie is in like two episodes

fuck this show

>>149165738 (OP)
That last season makes the show not worth it.

Can y'all just appreciate Shota gar for one second?

>>149165863
Greg really liked hitting the viewer over and over with that drug abuse analogy

>>149167574
When the show was airing, a lot of people said that they gave up somewhere around the Atlantis arc or the Zatanna arc.

>>149166616
Don’t worry if you stick around for the next season you’ll have even more new characters to not care about

>>149167739
He's a great character in other shows but the S3 and S4 YJ version of him is so unlikable that it makes it difficult to appreciate.

>>149167739
Approaching voting age is pushing it for “shota”

>>149167815
The corgi definitely wasn't old enough to vote.

>>149167793
as always, the biggest problem about Young Justice. Invasion should've been season 3 and we should've had a season during the 5 year timeskip to help transition the team from season 1 into the Invasion team. let us get used to characters like Batgirl and Lagoon Boy on the team, show us Aqualad leaving the team instead of leaving it to a game that nobody played, then give us Invasion that adds and focuses on characters like Blue Beetle and Impulse. unfortunately, Weisman is a worldbuilding autist and prioritizes building the YJ world more than the actual story

So Gar can add being Groomed to his list of traumas

>>149166081
She is a member of the royal family and has access to wealth and political connections. She probably could have killed someone and gotten away with it.

>>149167753
Weisman had a great response to the therapy episode in season one so he kept trying to recapture the magic in later seasons by having more and more therapy episodes. If there was a season five, they were setting up for an adaptation of Santuary/Heroes in Crisis where there would be even more therapy sessions. Also, when Big Barda, Black Mary and Supergirl inevitably defect from Apokolips, they'll probably all need therapy too from the trauma that they faced there. It may have been a budget cut thing as well because it's cheaper/easier to animate two people sitting and talking than an action scene that requires a lot of movement.

>>149167960
He was a child star on YJ so that fits.

>>149165763
It sort of depends on whether he's in human form or animal form.

>>149167225
For season 4 the arcs of child and general zod are the best but in order to enjoy them you have to sit some of the most poinless shit this show have, Like a reiligion class (dr fate literaly pray to fix the problem...also there is a muslim around) or the lore infodump that vandal pukes mid season (they made both magic users and atlantians meta-humans, as if fans even reac good to that type of retcon).
For season 3 i only care for Geoforce arc.
Also season 4 shows how villans (not vandal) carry this show, only because all the personal drama makes the heros seem lame.

>>149169833
Rocket's arc had some enjoyable parts even if Rocket was the least interesting part of the Rocket arc. It felt like the writers just stuck her in there because they didn't know what else to do with her.

>>149167523
halo is literally a macbook in a wig

>>149165738 (OP)
>300x168

>>149166022
Greg's always had some age gap stuff in some of his works

>Mary implied to try to use adult body for adult things despite being a minor
>Jeff Goslin dating Captain Atom's daughter despite him being his best friend and her being 20 years younger
>Captain Atom dating an aged hippy because he can't relate to women his age anymore
>Tom and Katherine in Gargoyles getting together despite him being a little boy and her a young adult before they went to Avalon
>Demona and Brooklyn hooking up in Puck's bad future
>Spectacular Spider-Man Hammerhead implied to fool around with teen Sable before Silvermane had him "fired"

Garfield and Perdita are rather mild in comparison.

Beast Boy should have breed Perdita

>>149168628
It didn't work in YJ season 4 because the pay off with Beast Boy felt way too prolonged and most people were indifferent to his plight by then. It's a shame since this is the only time BB feels like a fleshed out character outside the comics and it makes sense considering he's had to face mortality since he was a boy in season 1. The execution just wasn't as good and I think Greg Cipes's voice acting also took me out of it.

In contrast, my favorite issue in Spectacular Spider-Men was the therapy one since it did a nice job grounding all of the hectic superhero stuff from the previous arc and had some good character work for Peter, Miles, and even the supporting cast. Too bad the Elementary plot took up too much time and focus aftewards.

>>149165738 (OP)
massively wasted potential: the show.
Weisman is a certified genius, but he's also clearly a news addict who believes everything he's told, and those two do not go together.
smart people are a great weapon for whoever is supplying the info

>>149166081
I mean we're getting there.
and given that this is the show where the teens make sure they have an adult chaperone in their cool teen hero pad because they are fucking brainwashed gen Zs, yeah...

I still find it weird and silly that he was expressly forbidden from letting Bart have an acknowledged boyfriend.

While I liked the show overall, one thing that bothered me was how the villains were always two steps ahead of everyone. I don't mind competent villains, but they always going "just as planned" with every win of the heroes got annoying after a while.

>>149165738 (OP)
God the Targets comic book that comes after season 4 is so boring too

>>149165738 (OP)
Why does she look old enough to be his mother

>>149172550
It wasn't bad, but that story could've been told in three issues. Superboy was subdued by Metallo for literally two entire issues. The only necessary flashback was Wally's funeral.

I am a minority here but I really like when Superhero media intertwine with politics and superhero stuff has political consequences

>>149172949
I must add that it can be overused to the point of being annoying and overly realistic

>>149165738 (OP)
I really hate all of the SJW bullshit in the show but I give it props for remembering the difference between good and evil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ-cPzyhigM
I thought that they were going to give Lor Zod a "redemption" like this faggot. I can't stand all of retards saying that he had a "good character arc".

>>149165738 (OP)
How is the porn of YJ Perditia?

>>149173271
Can't say it exists

>>149172778
I don't think that they count as separate species. It was bisexual from his side.

>>149167902
>unfortunately, Weisman is a worldbuilding autist and prioritizes building the YJ world more than the actual story
This is spot-on, and its exactly this mindset that made so much of the later seasons unbearable

>>149173174
We'll probably get a good/redeemable Lor-Zod now that Ursa will give birth to him in a different timeline. Just like how we got Red Arrow AND Arsenal or Pre-Nu52 and Nu52 Ocean Master via cloning.

>>149171949
The white jailbait queen of a primarily white nation having a bastard mutant baby with an white African national mutant who was raised by lesbians.
Bit on the nose >Weissman

>>149173174
>remembering the difference between good and evil.
Lor losing and Vandal snapping were the highlights

>>149173577
In one of the Atlantis episodes, they referred to all of the different groups (Homo magi, Homo meta, Homo mermanus, etc.) as distinct subspecies and there were tensions between the Altaneans (the mermaid type, the humanoid type, the octopus head type, the shark type, etc.) based on which subgroup they belonged to.

>>149174133
>>149173174
They did a good job illustrating exactly how hilariously petty Metron can be when someone touches his stuff.

>>149174388
I also liked Darkseid genuinely rewarding loyalty. It's interesting characterization considering he's more of a presence than a character in the show.

>>149174920
Yeah, usually he's just a dick.

>>149173783
>We'll probably get a good/redeemable Lor-Zod now that Ursa will give birth to him in a different timeline.
I'm actually fine with that. I hate the SJW stuff but Weissman chose to be more surface level with it. Most people would still defend Isaac just because it isn't "woke" (from a normalfag perspective). YJ has Lex act out Trump's mannerisms but they at least picked an angle instead of making him both an evil mastermind and stupid. I mean they still made the Zods racial supremacist despite making them Black.

>>149174388
Metron let two other people get the better of him and let it slide. Earlier, he gave the impression that he just too smart to hold a grudge; but unlike the other 2, Lor was still a threat.

>>149171895
For a second I thought Brooklyn was the dog and did a double take.

>>149172705
Superboy looks so annoyed to be there.

>>149165738 (OP)
Atlantean episode is full of the most cringe things but King Arthur was based.
>Managed his kingdom's budget so well that he made neighboring kingdoms seethe
>Is the voice of reason and tradition that gets proven right
>Warned his brother before wearing the crown thus rubbing salt on his wound when he dies
>Cleverly interprets the prophecy to pass his job to his wife so he go back to punching people in the surface instead of ruling the racist people of the sea who only care about "appearances"

>>149176362
>I mean they still made the Zods racial supremacist despite making them Black.

It's a bit unwelcome that all of the evil Kryptonians were black. Not because I dislike the overt "black people = evil" message, but because I like Zod and want him and his followers to be white.

I was also, for the record, not really happy with the Gods and Monsters making the Superman who's Zod's son into a half space Mexican.

Yes, it's very /pol/ of me.

>>149176423
Of course he looks upset. He was forced to marry his abuser and all of his so-called friends and mentors were okay with it.

>>149176362
>Metron let two other people get the better of him and let it slide.
For now.... He probably has some really devious punishment planned for later when they've let their guard down.

>>149171895
There was also a significant age gap between Demona and MacBeth in the beginning but they both lived for hundreds of years after that so maybe that makes it a little less weird in the long run?

>>149176441
Only Zod, his son, Faora, and one other dude whose name I don't remember were black. Ursa, Non, Jax-Ur, and Kru-El were white.

>>149176441
There was a lot of unintentional racism there. The good Kryptonians were all white while many of the background Kryptonians in the Phantom Zone jail were POCs and they all sang slave songs while they worked. After the finale when General Zod went back to jail, his son ended up being raised by a single mom after she escaped with the Eye of Ekron.

>>149176535
They also took away his matter manipulation telekinetic powers and made him a jobber.

>>149176635
Weisman's pet character M'gann can't be the most powerful team member if Kon gets his full set of powers from the comics.

>>149174920
This is also the most chill that Grayven has ever been.

>>149176680
Weisman just likes underpowered characters. He nerfed the hell out of Miles Morales in the Spider-Men comic he wrote.

Isn’t Conner supposed to be really important anyway? Inspired the LoSH by making a stand 10 years from season 4.

>>149176711
No, it was originally supposed to be Superman which is why he recognized their rings before anyone else knew what was going on. it was hinted that if Superman was unavailable, then LoSH would maybe try to use Kon as their backup plan. Since Darkseid was being set up as a major threat in YJ, the writers could be taking inspiration from "The Great Darkness Saga" where the Legion has to fight Darkseid in the future and they have to recruit a bunch of superheroes from different eras to help them.

>>149172350
He's been doing that since Gargoyles.

>>149165738 (OP)
Season 3 was rough, so I stopped at what I think was the end of it, when ||Brionne kills his uncle [/spoiler]

I suppose I'll eventually watch Season 4 becaused I love Season 1 and 2 so much and the series was my introduction to the bigger DC cosmology, but man, it went to some unnecessary places.

>>149165738 (OP)

I don't see why I should restrict myself from 25 year olds. Yet Zoomers continue to insist that they are children and anyone attempting to rape them is a pedophile

>>149176943
S4 has several mini-arcs each focusing on a different main character from S1 so you may enjoy it more than S3. Also, if you watched GLTAS, there's a couple of cameos during Rocket's arc on New Genesis and the same voice actors from GLTAS are used.

>>149165738 (OP)
>I kinda don't like Weissmans attitude though. He seems kinda dickish.

It may explain why his Twitter account keeps getting hacked by some of the people that he has pissed off.

>>149176683
He also has white hair in this version for some reason.

Child

Beast boy was awful

>>149176848
Other way around: Superboy is the crucial one. When he “died” in Mars, the Legion recruited Superman as back-up plan for a stand he’s supposed to make in Happy Harbor in 10 years.

>>149178399
You'd think that a rich girl could afford a better haircut.

>>149177619
He was more tolerable in the earlier seasons.

>>149178529
Trailer park Tammi haircut

>>149179560
To be fair, there are a lot of blonde female characters with sameface on this show so the character designers have to do something to make them more visually distinctive like giving them weird haircuts, especially if it's a character who doesn't wear a costume.

>>149177619
The therapy plot in the last season certainly didn't do him any favors.

>>149176416
Bronx is the dog.

Was the NSFW panel true?

>>149178529
>>149179560
I genuinely think the shitty fancy trash haircut is the hottest part of the design. The absurd tan adds so we to it too.

>>149182497
I wasn't digging it, I agree.

>>149177619
i didn't mind him in season 3 but the therapy shit was intolerable.
>>149177202
lords of chaos cunny books when?

>>149176416
>>149181856
Was he a dog or was he a gargoyle with Down syndrome?

>>149176711
>Weisman just likes underpowered characters.
I can see that but it always bothered me that Martians are so overpowered compared to anyone else

>>149183816
She can't really be "underpowered" if they make a huge deal about her being the most powerful telepath in S1 and they have Nightwing calling her a terrifying demigod in S4.

>>149183816
He actually kinda nerfed the martians as well (in the comics they are as strong and fast as Superman), but you can only do that up until certain point.

>>149167902
>>149173674
It always felt to me like Weisman was trying to prepare for a more expanded setting with numerous spin-off shows to make a new DCAU, but they just never approved it.

>>149184722
>YJAU
well now i'm curious on what that'd look like.

>>149184722
>>149184931
AEhh unless it more Catwoman hunted type media

>>149183816
>>149184452
There is no good reason as to why Martians should be that strong in the first place.

>>149186628
stuff like Catwoman Hunted could work. it's in the same universe (or, practically is), but it's still mostly self-contained. like, a Suicide Squad movie in the world would be cool and the only connecting threads would be Mallah and Black Manta on the team. speaking of which, did they ever explain what happened to The Brain? iirc, he wasn't with Mallah on Task Force X and he wasn't mentioned, but i didn't read the comics so idk if they mentioned what happened to him there

>>149184722
Gargoyles was set up for that too, but that was more Michael Eisner requesting for an action animated universe to compete with Marvel.

>>149184722
feels kinda like putting the cart before the horse
like at least the DCAU sprang up more naturally (and maybe if the MAWSverse ends up being a thing)

>>149184452
>>149186670
Speaking of the Martians, something in Young Justice that kinda pissed me is that, in Season 1, M'gann's true form is treated as a dark secret that she's hiding from her teammates and she has a whole character arc that ends with her finally revealing that she's a monster to her friends but they all still love her anyway.

But then in Season 2 it's revealed that actually, all Martians look exactly like M'gann.

And yeah, I get that IN-UNIVERSE, the whole thing is that she's a White Martian instead of a Green Martian, but the show definitely tricks you into assuming that ONLY White Martians are monsters and Green Martians are naturally humanoid, but that ends up not being true at all

>>149188858
To be fair. I think YJ is just handled like there's a bigger universe out there than spin-off bait. I don't think Greg ever mentioned any spin-offs being seriously set-up or in the works and it's not as obvious about it like the World Tour in Gargoyles was. Maybe Bowhunter Security was a bit blatant.

>>149176554
He seems to be content with what he got from the other 2 and he seems smart enough to recognize that he was being a dick in those two other instances. He did openly remark that he viewed gaining a time sphere and losing the phantom zone projector to be a big net lost and there was also the torture.

>>149189199
eh, either way, I think trying to make this big of a sprawling universe rather than focusing on a single thing was a mistake.

>>149182497
Seconded.

>>149191917
Hot

>>149190596
How did Beast Boy fuck this up?

She did the right thing in dumping him

>>149193775
>>149194097
He was in a really bad spot. Mentally at least. She said she'll give him another chance if he gets his shit together, they're not really "broken up" just kinda on break.

>>149189387
I honestly wonder how much of that came from Sam Register not wanting Teen Titans 2.0.

Sam Register was the one who came up with the concept of the show, and he was also the guy behind TT where he enacted rules such as "no big DC heroes" and "never say their real names".

>>149182438
What happened?

>>149195707
I don't know him, but I already hate him. Not a good TT comic since the fucking 90s.
And no I'm not going to read the comics with that half Asian fuck Damian.

mai wife

>>149197119
Tara my beloved

>>149197119
Wrong blonde

>>149197119
Beast boy has this hanging in his room

>>149190596
I hated all of the social media references that they kept trying to do. It's going to make the show look so dated in a few years.

>>149199259
I didn't see all too much, any examples?

>>149199434
It's mostly stuff like in S2 when the alien invaders are using social media for good publicity and in S3 when they're trying to use YJ's version of Twitter to promote the Outsiders and then Lex Luthor starts using it to promote his own superhero team and they have videos of superheroes doing good deeds going viral.

>>149197119
She's ugly

>>149199493
Plenty of shows have done that. It's not inherently a modern internet reference..

>>149197119
Oh hi panz
Saw you in the Tara thread. Have a type, no?

Season 1 was pretty wild for a ahow that was still supposed for kids at least 11 or 12 and up. This episode was leaked and delayed for a while but not sure if this is why. This is probably the best pant shot in animation I’ve seen better than Harley in the one batman movie. Cheshire is underrated also

>>149199259
Apparently that was Weisman and Vietti's way of acknowledging the social media movement that got the show revived. They probably meant well but it came off corny and forced.

>>149199259
Didn't help how Weissman felt very hello fellow kids way of doing it.

>>149201448
>>149201714
I wish YJ new season comes out now because the critic that has been said and isn't caught up in post series glow. Maybe possibly can learn from criticism