https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edONI3oR8CM

>People have always been wrong about me. I love. I hurt. I get scared. That's being human. And that's my greatest strength.

On the one hand, I understand it's important to establish this with audiences, especially after Zack Snyder's "jaded god" interpretation. On the other hand, having Superman literally spell it out aloud while almost looking at the camera feels clunky and a touch too meta.

>>149170604 (OP)
I get what you mean anon but sadly I think most normies actually need to have this spelled out to them.

>>149170604 (OP)
>People have always been wrong about me. I love. I hurt. I get scared. That's being human. And that's my greatest strength.
It's just terribly written, Superman wouldn't say it like that. Especially screaming it in such a whiny bitch made voice.
>On the one hand, I understand it's important to establish this with audiences, especially after Zack Snyder's "jaded god" interpretation.
Snyder out of nowhere, are Gunncucks every going to let that goat or are you going to keep complaining about Snyder till this movie flops. The recast Cavill there is no confusion between Herny and this jewish freak
> On the other hand, having Superman literally spell it out aloud while almost looking at the camera feels clunky and a touch too meta.
This has always been Gunn style, GotG has constant seethe of characters expressing how le sad and broken they are.
>>149170618
most normies don't care about superman period, much less this movie.

>>149170604 (OP)
He’s even goofier looking than that swarthy fuck from the last tv show

>>149171083
>most normies don't care about superman period, much less this movie.
Plenty of normies go to see superhero movies

>>149171113
> mogged by CW in terms of casting and suit
yeah, that's is fucked

>>149171128
hmm, that explains why its been nothing but flops besides Batman, Spider-Man and Deadpool/Wolverine, characters normies actually care about.

>>149170604 (OP)
>That's being human.
I would have written this as "That's what being alive is for all of us" or "that's being a person" or something other than using the word 'human.'

It's not clunky although it would also work better at a lower tone and said with less, let's say, 'emphatic energy.' But as far as audiences go, it's about 15 seconds of what will be a clip that will pass by many people and then will not spend the time and energy you are.

I also agree with >>149170618 - because of things like Young Justice, and Injustice and especially because of the Snyderverse, it's definitely necessary and certainly does need to spelled out.

If this had come out circa Superman Returns, or well before all these Evil Superman/Bad Superman takes, it would then perhaps be 'clunky' but don't forget, even two decades ago, people were calling Smallville corny for lines/scenes like PICREL

>>149170604 (OP)
>On the other hand, having Superman literally spell it out aloud while almost looking at the camera feels clunky and a touch too meta.
Audiences are genuinely that fucking stupid.

>>149170604 (OP)
He's so ugly.

>>149171193
so when this movie flops because its poorly written garbage larping as hopeslop. Is that also Snyder's fault. At what point can DC continue to making movies without phantom Snyder ruining it retroactively

>>149171204
They won't have to worry about that because the normal audience won't be seeing this. This is for us modern audience sisters.

I am going to give DC my money, indirectly, by purchasing a ticket at my local theater for Superman: Legacy whoops I mean Superman. Superman (2025).

>>149171214
>hopeslop

Superman such a simple character, people have a hard time getting it to the point it's almost comedic like I don't hate this take but like come on how hard is it just to do like regular ass Superman vs a bad guy type story without any of this extra nonsense these movies add?

>>149171247
> posts moe tranime
as expect from Gunnfags

>>149171273
>moe

>>149171260
Simple in the same way mickey mouse is simple, which is why no one cares

>>149171260
A Superman movie should be so easy to do like just bad guy shows up, Superman tries to stop him, him and Lois go back and forth, Jimmy Olsen is the goofy guy, Superman stops bad guy but no we gotta add like all this conflict like meanings of shit and extra characters or whatever be Gunn or Snyder and like dude just give us Superman being a cool nice guy and fighting cool villains that's it.

>>149171273
>phoneposter thinks he's above anybody

>>149171214
Snyder needs to apologize for making Batman Vs Superman

>>149171083
>most normies don't care about superman

Once again: Invincible, The Boys, Injustice, and Snyderverse prove you are stupid, wrong, and possibly illiterate.

>>149171297
newfags really are retarded huh...

>>149171304
after Gunn apologizes for covering up Gamora, Harley and Hawkgirl.

>>149171343
People my dad and grandpa generations love Superman, my dad really looking forward to this movie he didn't like Synder's take at all.

>>149171363
Anon, I don't think you actually care about these characters. I think you just want to use them as a vehicle for your culture war bullshit

>>149171363
No one gives a shit about Gamora, Hawkgirl and Harley wore full body suits before they wore the ones that showed skin.

>>149171397
I never brought up culture war once.
>>149171436
We already know Gunnfags don't care about comics. The product makes its obvious

>>149171113
Superman looking goofy is fine, the suit looks like shit still though. How it so hard just to put him in something like this?

>>149171449
>I never brought up culture war once.
Your posts reek of it
>We already know Gunnfags don't care about comics. The product makes its obvious
Yeah remember in the comics when Batman branded criminals so they would be murdered in prison? Good times.

>>149171486
>Your posts reek of it
We call that delusions xir.
> Yeah remember in the comics when Batman branded criminals so they would be murdered in prison? Good times.
Well, at least you acquiesced the point. We making progress!

>>149171506
>We call that delusions xir.
You're the one bringing up Jews and women being covered up
>Well, at least you acquiesced the point. We making progress!
No, my point is that the Snyder movies aren't very comic book accurate.

>>149171449
GUNNFAGS
SYNDERFAGS
SHUT UP THE FUCK UP
Gunn has better track record with making movies but both and Snyder are pretty loose with adapting things, Nolan out of all people is fucking better at adapting and staying true to shit because he does things that aren't just surface level from the comics even those movies have problems still good though but this whole pissing contest over directors is goddamn retarded who cares if movie good it's good if it bad it's bad. Synder's movies mostly suck cause they're poorly written which mainly isn't his fault actually, I think his movies been fine if they had better screen writer and stay closer to the books because he's a fine director. I don't want this movie to be bad, I couldn't care less who making it, you guys and your stupid console war when all the real fans want is just a good simple fucking movie but we can't have that cause Hollywood retarded and so are lot of the ''fans'.

>>149171458
It really distressing how super fans can get a good costume going while movies have struggled for decades. You ever see that image of All Star Superman where he's sitting on the cloud? I heard they got the idea for that just from seeing some chill dude is cosplay.

>>149171520
I like sexing women but I don't hate women. I just find it OD that femme fatale characters are being covered up from the director known for raunchy shit. Its annoying but not a culture war thing to me.
> No, my point is that the Snyder movies aren't very comic book accurate.
But you didn't refute the fact that Gunn isn't comic accurate. Instead you just whatabouted to Snyder. So...

>>149171343
>people loving evil/cynical versions of Superman means they love the real Superman!!! :)
No.

>>149171526
> Nolan
Stopped reading right there....

>>149171629
Alright, fair enough. I personally don't find it as annoying as the edgelord shit in the Snyder movies but it might be a personal preference thing
>But you didn't refute the fact that Gunn isn't comic accurate. Instead you just whatabouted to Snyder. So...
I didn't deny he was, I'm just saying its a weird point to argue that Snyder is superior in that regard when he's not. Anon, if you gave me the budget I'd make a movie that's as comic accurate as possible but that's not the world we live in sadly. But I'd rather a movie that at least gets the morality and understands the characters over one that turns them into edgy parodies of themselves. I'm not some Gunn fanboy, I just appreciate what this movie seems to be aiming for. Now, it could end up being shit and if so that will be disappointing. But I appreciate it trying after years of ''muh evil Superman''

>>149171646
Retard.

>>149171214
>so when this movie flops
>"We already told you that Superman is the year’s best advance-ticket seller in its first 24 hours, with the pic’s Amazon Prime Early Access paid screenings flying off Fandango’s portal. Those screenings are on Wednesday, July 8 (7 p.m. local time), three days before the pic’s July 11 opening. Superman‘s presales outstripped that of Disney/Marvel Studios’ upcoming The Fantastic Four: First Steps. "
https://deadline.com/2025/06/superman-advance-ticket-sales-record-fandango-1236430995/

>>149171247
Who even watches this gay shit?

Superman is just really boring, and nothing can change that

This movie is gonna be a blast, I pity the "fans" who don't like this cartoonish take on the character.

>bad writing
This shit is edited, you fucking cucks.

>>149172925
There are other ticket buying services than Fandango. This means jackshit

>>149170604 (OP)
>NuSuperman is dogshit
>People want to support it anyways
>It becomes moderately successful
>DC Studios produces more dogshit

>>149174404
at least there are lines of dialogue here

>>149170604 (OP)
>That's being human.
First, No.
Second, You are not even human.

>>149172925
They said the same thing two years ago, yet to be refuted too...

>>149171983
> Nolan is comic accurate
kekaroo
>>149173040
Gunnfags, who enjoy being ironic pedophiles but totally not real one guys!

>>149173646
>are other ticket buying services
"Fandango dominates the online and mobile movie ticketing market in North America, controlling roughly 95% of theaters that offer online and mobile ticketing. They have a strong presence in the U.S. market, with a significant share of online and mobile ticketing. While exact market share figures can fluctuate, Fandango's position is near-ubiquitous within the United States"

>>149175108
>>149175073
refute this Gunnjeet, instead of coping about presales...

>>149174404
Every time I read Led dialogue I read it in his DCAU voice

>>149175164
DCAU superman sucked, jobbed every episode to felate batman...

Snyder has done enough harm to the public perception of Superman that half this movie is going to be damage control.

>>149175199
Except for the part where Superman had been flopping straight for 20 years before Snyder came along. Faggots act like Superman Returns did also flop massively and that has a better cast than Gunn's shit...

>Superman looks like he's wearing a halloween costume
>Krypto is here for cheap comic book casual applause and to follow up on Rocket Raccoon
>Metamorpho is just a vessel for superhero meta jokes
>Ultraman is 3 different characters combined and none of them are THE actual Ultraman
only Gunn cultists are hyped for this shit

>>149175281
the worst part is that whatever you posted here is probably better than what the movie actually is.

>>149174672
>Second, You are not even human.
this. he's an alieeeeeeen

>>149170618
Normies didn't understand Superman in BvS because he had very few lines of dialogues.
>Superman saves a kid from fire
>He brings the kid to people while smiling
>people starts worshiping him like a god instead of treating him like a normal person
>he feels uncomfortable
That scene said everything about the character but normies missed it because he didn't say anything.
>>149171193
Look at this normie lol.

>>149175073
>>149175145
'tracking' is an educated guess - it's never been correct one month out, no matter the movie
snyder's tracking was exactly the same, as was avenger's endgame or any avatar movie or anything else
'pre-sales' are exactly that, money in hand, and count as box-office once the actual theatrical shows happen, which is why they get rolled up into Friday's box office, even when pre-sales can happen over several days as several movies have done recently, with IMAX previews and plain vanilla fan nights, etc.

>>149170604 (OP)
>On the one hand, I understand it's important to establish this with audiences, especially after Zack Snyder's "jaded god" interpretation
Everything he said on that clip is on Zack's movies.

Gunn's dialog in his Marvel films have always been shit but worked because Guardians was a weird alien movie with weird shit so the dialog did not sound so bad. Now we have have Lex saying
> I will destroy you and that reporter you are always with.
Literally Madame web tier dialog. The mixed to negative reviews will kill this movie. Gunn doesn't know how to write regular human beings. Smurfs will shoot off Superman's legs. One billion never.

>>149170604 (OP)
Gunn’s specialty is self ironic humor. He knows he can’t do it here (without impulse) so take that away and there’s not much left to show for it. Certainly not good visuals. There’s nothing about this movie that suggests it won’t be the typical mcu phase 4/5 slop.

>>149175739
>that file name
Let me guess, moviescirclejerk?

>>149170604 (OP)
Completely agree. Never seen a more egregious example of a movie holding the audience's hand and explaining the core of the movie.
But what can you expect from handing a director who prides himself on raunchy ironic humor and hand him a character that demands complete sincerity?

>>149170604 (OP)
Might as well have Superman, Mr.T, Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner all hold hands together and say “Fuck Zack Snyder!” in unison while looking at the camera. This movie is like a caricature of what superfags wanted while failing to make a genuinely appealing product.

>>149171458
>>149171544
Is that "Mr. Nattie" Michael O'Hearn?

>>149171113
Superman should be a comedy. Like the Tick.

>>149170604 (OP)
>haha yes Mr. McNormalfag, it's not my super-brain, super-strength, super-speed, extremely technologically advanced fortress or any of that stuff that is my real super-power, it's the heckin human spirit
>shit, uh, cancer, woof, that's a bad one
>money problems too, huh? sorry I don't have any money, I kinda don't need anything, I'm an invulnerable alien
>...
>anyway, gotta go, remember McNormalfag, we're both equally powerful!
I hate this empty corporate hopeschlock so, so much...

>>149175547
>Look

>>149176578
yep
boomer supes fan love him
he's their clean-shaven 'chuck norris' tier kryptonian expy

>>149175665
Gunnfags are constantly drawing comparisons so they can have an excuse when this gets a middling reception and middling box office. Can't wait for all the news stories of Snyderfans firebombing local movie theaters with bus full of kids.
>>149175847
only redditors like Gunn
>>149176478
Exactly, its an amalgation of redditors/jewtuber complaint designed by the masses to appeal to everyone. In reality it appeals to no one.

>I want a comic accurate Superman!
>Mmmm, did I say comic? I meant I just want to watch Donner's Superman again

>>149179271
well Gunn is neither comic accurate or inspired by Donner, Gunn will just claim he reads comics and use Donner theme before doing his own thing/ Just like Guardians, TSS and Creature Commandos.