how would YOU write idw sonic since you hate the writers (beside ken i understand why)

>beside ken
Ken never wrote for IDW

>>149187143
Either mixed up Archie with IDW or (what I think is more the case) mixed up Ken with Ian.

>>149187130 (OP)
-Sonic is never confined to a single location for longer than a single story arc. He can return to a previous one, but he can't stay there once the plot ends. He can meet up with other game characters from time to time, but they need to have a justifiable reason to be there (unlike Knuckles in Sonic 2006).

-No long-term OCs, stick with the game cast with established chemistry. Comic OCs must be related to the plot at hand and cannot return unless there's a story-related need for it.

-No world-ending events for Eggman, save those for the games.

See? It's easy.

Just do Adventures of Sonic again, but with the game cast.

>>149187130 (OP)
Most of the IDW ideas are good. They're just executed poorly. So much missed and squandered potential.

>>149187257
>Most of the IDW ideas are good.

Can you expand on that, because I really don't agree. They're either overly-gimmicky or just recycling old ideas or tropes.

>>149187235
>the game cast with established chemistry
What chemistry?

>>149187130 (OP)
make more villains of varying threat level ether that are recurring bad guys or just big deal one shots, if there's new characters added they can't be mammals or rodents since that's overdone and boring. Use the game cast more or just in a better way, even having issues where it focuses specifically on them with either Sonic or other characters absent like Sonic Universe and lastly every issue has to have some sort of action or exciting thing happen so that it isn't just issues of characters standing, chatting, moping or so on unless it's earned and warranted.

>>149187130 (OP)
More sexiness

>>149187286
>if there's new characters added they can't be mammals or rodents since that's overdone and boring.

That's just the nature of the series here. A much bigger problem is the characters need to actually DO interesting shit, unlike Starline Clutch or Mimic.

>>149187286
>if there's new characters added they can't be mammals or rodents
Thats what Sega wants. They only barely allowed Jewel.

>>149187286
>if there's new characters added they can't be mammals or rodents since that's overdone and boring.

Sir? This is a Sonic comic.

>>149187269
I can overlook the Overlord Metal Sonic arc because that was Ian needing to have some kind of start to the series. The Mr. Tinker could have had a stronger end. Metal Virus should've been cut in half and even Eggman would want to reverse it because he didn't think it'd be that bad. Actually use Belle. Don't break up Starline and Eggman because Starline is mandated to not be better than Eggman. The Deadly Six would have their own arc. It's inevitable. Tangle hangs out with Sonic and Tails more often. Whisper is the mysterious helper that comes and goes while having her own mission. And etc. Iron out the bad choices and not be that ambitious or aimless.

>>149187337
yes and I want to see animals that haven't been done in the Sonic style much since the most visually interesting game characters are the ones like Vector, the Babylon Rogues for example. Give me more reptiles, sea animals, insects and birds since that offers a wide potential for either fun background characters, new allies or creative villains. Although I'd also suggest being sure to balance the focus so that they don't take spotlight over the game cast since that's one of the biggest arguments regarding a lot of Sonic adaptions.

>>149187403
Ya know, I bet Sega doesn't want any non-mammals simply because reboot Archie did it.

>>149187417
They're also genuinly a poor fit for the Sonic aesthetic, or they just end up not looking anything like what they're supposed to be, like Trip.

>>149187403
>Reptiles
What would snake and turtle characters look like?

>>149187130 (OP)
Sonic get ipad

>>149187130 (OP)
Human x Mobian

>>149187130 (OP)
All characters say they are explicitly 18+ first time they are shown

Pic related only more game accurate

>>149187438

Like that stupid snake from the Sonic Boom game and Tommy Turtle.

>>149187303
Mimic is arguably the only IDW villain with an actual hook that was worth exploring and utilising as a shapeshifting gun for hire means he could've just shown up without a complicated reason to be a threat sorta like Cad Bane in Clone Wars or sixsix in Ben 10 and the personal angle with Whisper shoulda been something not rushed into since it just means he's only got anything to do with her or Tangle for the most part while he doesn't scuffle with the other characters. Clutch is pretty unsalvable since he's just a total waste with no actual presence or ability to credibly be a threat. Archie as divisive as it was could actually have the villains be interesting, have unique angles why they were threats and either work as natural extensions of Dr Eggman's empire or unconnected threats.

>>149187447
>Human x Mobian
based

>>149187438
well there's Mordred Hood who is a comic character I really like and an example of how a Snake character could look as a Sonic critter. I'd probably have it be that they can have arms but as a hard rule no legs, Mordred's are cybernetics like the rest of his suit. The main thing with making an animal into a Sonic character is how their unique features can be translated into the bodytypes so for example a Leatherback Turtle could be shaped like Storm or Boom Knuckles.

>>149187433
how are they a poor fit when Vector exists and he's a crocodile?

>>149187481
And yet like everything IDW tried he flopped horribly.

>>149187635
hey now he didn't flop....he fried. Also that's the most frustrating part of IDW is that even the good ideas tend to get fumbled utterly or resolved disappointingly. Mimic was pretty much the only IDW oc I liked design, personality and concept wise so a shame how he turned out.

>>149187511
why would a beast want a human that wants sex when they don't?

>>149187706
Pattern recognition, learn it.

>>149187794
well I think i've got enough of it since the exposure I have to IDW is cause of it being posted around and not me going out of my way to read the issues.

>>149187130 (OP)
Sonic Universe was the perfect template. 4 issue story arcs featuring action and adventure, gives breathing room without dragging things out forever. Every arc focuses on a new character’s adventure along with their own personal villain/rival. Knuckles had Finitevus, Shadow had Eclipse, Tails had Speedy, Nicole had Phage. Scrapnik Island followed the Universe formula and it was the most well-received story in IDW.

>>149187130 (OP)
Just make standalone stories that at most last 4 issues long.
Don't try to make some kind of Not!Freedom Fighters thing, just have Sonic in a new location at the start of a new story. And don't try to shove all the characters into one story. Max out at like 7 for big ones.
For villains, you can stick to Eggman unless a story wouldn't really work with him as the main villain.

Shonen manga with zero blobians except the main cast, and only humans.

>>149187984

Wow, you put so many wrong things in one post. Amazing.

Stop relying on new OCs and use already existing characters and content, weave it into world and story building?
Also Scratch and Grounder being antagonistic rivals

Just stop writing this comic as an extended debriefing of Sonic Forces, PLEASE, it's closing in on a decade now.

>>149187130 (OP)
Be writing like Japanese?

Write the comic as a series of graphic novels or just trades that are all essentially their own story?

Trying to force a mainline ongoing is not doing this comic favours so just do a series of specials that are all their own storyline.

IDW Sonic is so FUCKING boring that I would take even the most retarded Archive slop over it. Anything, even the dogshit of the post-space arc was more entertaining than what we have now.

>>149187433
Jewel looks pretty good though.

>>149187130 (OP)
The thing that pisses me off about IDW is not that I want to wholesale rewrite it; I just want better execution for what already exists. Take the Metal Virus for example. It's fucking terrible, but part of why it's so terrible is how it's meant to be an Endgame level payoff for a continuity that doesn't fucking exist anymore. So you basically have what should be a season/series finale like two episodes into season 1.

The easiest solution to such a poorly executed arc is to BUILD IT UP. Have a lot of the lighter arcs that came after take place before MV, while events that lead up to the event happen in the background. Build up the world and characters. Introduce Belle so you can actually see her and Tinker together. Introduce Starline as a schemer working behind everyone's backs so he can steal the emeralds under their noses. Have Tinker build a bond between the main cast so his inevitable betrayal actually stings.

The Metal Virus should kick off around issue 50, so the reader can feel rewarded with the massive tone shift. Everyone has a reason to not try and kill Eggman, because they're all too attached to his previous persona to finish the job rather than Sonic acting like a moron.

There's just so much they could've done here and they took the worst route possible.

I wouldn't even feel the need to change the stuff that happened, just the way it happened. The comic has a weird problem with anticlimaxes and focusing on the wrong parts of stories.

Off the top of my head, if I'm just rewriting instead of writing new stuff

>Redo all of Whisper's appearances. Her breaking down and crying should be rare instead of her defining feature. We need to *actually* see her struggle with learning to trust people. We need to see her kick ass and get wins occasionally instead of jobbing to everyone but her designated enemy. Mimic also shouldn't be responsible for actual deaths, as it gives the conflict more breathing room. Make him a deserter who is constantly trying to pick off people who could ever find him, it just works better.
>Especially early on, more one-off stories. Focus on them being entertaining stories in a vacuum and then make sure to use weird character picks so people can actually get to know the cast and understand why they're here and why they should care.
>Goof on Starline more. Make his eccentricities the butt of jokes to both save page space and make readers more invested in him. Give him an actual breakdown before the rock drops on him; having him get crushed right before he completely snaps isn't cathartic.
>Use civilians for stories and gags, not just to check boxes. Jewel and Belle are fine if you actually have a reason for them to be around and endear the readers to them instead of just insisting they should care.
>Clean up Clutch's schtick way earlier, make it clear exactly what he wants in life and *stop writing him doing the opposite just to make plotlines work*.
>Stop trying to make Eggman menacing. Just write him as he is. It creates problems when you go to far with it.
>Make Lanolin's subplot more obvious and less slow burn. Two years to even start to approach the beginning of her deal is stupid. If she's meant to be a nasty bitch because of trauma then let her be antagonistic within a few appearances without waffling on it. Let her be wrong in a way where she doesn't need to apologize and right in ways that kinda suck.
>If you're going to kill villains off you need a couple spares.

I think the biggest problem is the book cares more about pandering to the most vocal fanatics than to using what it has.

Rough and Tumble barely even show up despite being created to facilitate any random story. Most of the game cast barely does shit and most of their appearances are bending over backwards to explain/excuse stuff in the plot or make obligatory fan pandering statements. Tangle and Whisper are in the book constantly but they're attached at the hip and neither has much going on, so the writers keep falling back on gay baiting (two pride flag panels across three years, show at least a little respect to your non-cis fans instead of treating them like sheep, goddamn). Whenever Ian's writing characters will sometimes talk at the reader and tell them what they want to hear or monologue about shit. The writers lean heavy on references and callbacks and wiki fodder.

Just write stories with the pieces you have, goddamn.

>>149187337
>Sir? This is a Sonic comic.
Sonic has humans and IDW has none. See the problem?

>>149187459
>Pic related only more game accurate