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Anonymous No.149192824 [Report] >>149192874 >>149192901 >>149193205 >>149193294 >>149193671 >>149193728 >>149194535 >>149194558 >>149194638 >>149196644 >>149198168 >>149199874 >>149199899 >>149203728 >>149203774
Aren't goblins usually green? Is Osborne stupid?

That's like calling yourself "the winged vulture" or "the horned rhino"
Anonymous No.149192874 [Report]
>>149192824 (OP)
I did hear back in the time of token and the old days orgs and goblins were supposed to be Gray also Warhammer fantasy was becoming popular which I think influence green orgs and goblins so it might have been what day would call an artifact name that it wasn't coming back in the day but now he's already known by that.
Anonymous No.149192901 [Report] >>149192991 >>149193778
>>149192824 (OP)
"The Goblin" just lacks punch. Alliteration helps it stick in the mind.
Anonymous No.149192958 [Report]
GG, n00b
Anonymous No.149192991 [Report]
>>149192901
Funny, because in the Raimi movies, nobody ever called him Green Goblin directly, just "Goblin". The closest it got was JJJ using the full name for headline marketing.
Anonymous No.149193205 [Report] >>149193273 >>149193778
>>149192824 (OP)
So you prefer for the Hobgoblin to come first like in the cartoon?
Anonymous No.149193273 [Report] >>149193396
>>149193205
I had completely forgotten about that. Man, that was kinda dumb
Anonymous No.149193294 [Report]
>>149192824 (OP)
Like any other comic character with a color in their name, it's always meaningless

Blue Beetle
Blue Devil
Red Devil
Red Tornado
Green Lantern
Black Lightning
Black Panther
Black Canary
Silver Banshee
Green Arrow
Black Zero
Black Hand
Golden Glider
Black Adam
Anonymous No.149193396 [Report] >>149193820 >>149194030
>>149193273
Hey, for some reason they made a Hobgoblin toy first.
And it gives Norman a reason to specify that he's a GREEN goblin and not yellow.
Anonymous No.149193671 [Report]
>>149192824 (OP)
>Is Osborne stupid?
Does ths answer you question?
Oh yes marvel has not forgotten about this. Norman having sold harry is soul in exchange for power is stll very much canon.
Anonymous No.149193728 [Report]
>>149192824 (OP)
More like the Homo OP
Anonymous No.149193778 [Report]
>>149192901
>>149193205
It's also that goblins are an imp myth. They're threatening but the core of their myth is that they're more troublesome and obnoxious than something you're afraid of genuinely killing you.
Anonymous No.149193820 [Report] >>149193923 >>149194535 >>149194659 >>149194961
>>149193396
Not true, there's an incredibly rare Green Goblin figure by Mego from in 1975, made before the 1984 but also rare Mattel Secret Wars Hobgoblin
Anonymous No.149193923 [Report] >>149196644
>>149193820
Anon means for the 1994 show.
And the reason was because the toyline was meant to be both a comic and cartoon toyline, so the show had to stay sort of consistent with modern comic designs(even though the active Hobgoblin by then had already become demonic.)
Anonymous No.149194030 [Report] >>149194499
>>149193396
Because when they were making the Secret Wars line, Hobgoblin was the character that currently existed, while Green Goblin had been dead for a little under a decade?
Anonymous No.149194499 [Report]
>>149194030
About 10 years exactly, since Norman died, but Harry was running around as Green Goblin as early as 1974 and had a number of appearances as GG through out the rest of the 70's.
Hobgoblin was created in '83 and was the main villain in Spider-Man at the time around Secret Wars with the endless "Who is the Hobgoblin anyways?" storyline
But the toy itself was one of the last made for the line, Secret Wars the toys weren't popular as the later Toy Biz line in the 90, probably because Mattel was picking character who weren't actually in Secret Wars
Anonymous No.149194535 [Report]
>>149193820
>>149192824 (OP)
Thank doc
Anonymous No.149194558 [Report] >>149196258
>>149192824 (OP)
"Goblin" cannot be trademarked. "Green Goblin" can.
Anonymous No.149194638 [Report] >>149196312 >>149198247
>>149192824 (OP)
No

Green Goblin literally created the cliche that goblins are green. There was absolutely no precedent in any media before him, or even an instance I can find of goblins being green in a book, cartoon, movie, etc

I would say he even cemented their appearance in general, with the default being green, pointed nose, big grin, and pointy ears
Anonymous No.149194659 [Report]
>>149193820
Lmao the purse came separate. Cute.
Anonymous No.149194961 [Report] >>149201678
>>149193820
The serrated outlines of the pitch black shadows around the eyes make it look as if he's wearing drag-like false eyelashes.
Anonymous No.149196258 [Report]
>>149194558
Can Vulture, Scorpion and Rhino be trademarked? Retard
FagKiller No.149196312 [Report]
>>149194638
This is true
Anonymous No.149196317 [Report] >>149197980
Down down to Goblin town
Anonymous No.149196644 [Report]
>>149192824 (OP)
Wait until OP finds out about The Wingless Wizard.

>>149193923
By the time of the 1994 cartoon, Hobgoblin wasn't demonic anymore, the demon separated from him in early 1992 to become Demogoblin, who actually died in 1994.
Anonymous No.149197980 [Report]
>>149196317
Frogs
Anonymous No.149198168 [Report] >>149199854
>>149192824 (OP)
>"the winged vulture" or "the horned rhino"
both of these names kick ass
Anonymous No.149198247 [Report] >>149201737 >>149203772
>>149194638
The phrase "green goblin" first appears in print in the 1810s. Attestation: There appears to be a couple letters to the editor of The Black Dwarf: A London Weekly Publication in 1818, vol. 2, pp 669 and 827 that is signed by "The Green Goblin."
However, apart from this mysterious missive writer, we don't see the "green goblin" phrase again until the 1870s. See for instance, Puck and Blossom by the lady Rosa Gilbert, published in 1875. On page 59, a goblin with a green complexion is described riding on the back of a wasp.
The green goblin phrase sees some ups and downs and has its first big peak in the third decade of the twentieth century. This was largely children stories but also weird references to the little green creatures related to the popularity of all things faerie in the decades before and after the turn of the twentieth century.

For all intents and purposes, green had become the default color for goblins by the Roaring Twenties.
After that, references dwindled during the Great Depression and then Green goblin references all but disappeared after the outbreak of the second world war. It is barely mentioned again until we see it on the rise starting in the late eighties and through the nineties.
Then, the title case (capitalized Green Goblin) takes off like a rocket around 2000 which I am supposing is Marvel related.
Anonymous No.149199854 [Report]
>>149198168
Naw
Anonymous No.149199874 [Report]
>>149192824 (OP)
Ahckshully not necessarily, nowhere they are described to be green, green goblin actually popularizes the idea of goblins being green and become the consensus.
Anonymous No.149199899 [Report] >>149200009
>>149192824 (OP)
This is infinitely worse, panthers by definition are already black, panthers ate just jaguars with black fur but by being so they are classied as panthers by virtue of being black.
Anonymous No.149200009 [Report]
>>149199899
Well he's also a black guy.
Anonymous No.149201678 [Report]
>>149194961
But Norman literally had those eyelashes
Anonymous No.149201737 [Report]
>>149198247
Good analysis anon. I didn't expect this kind of dedication itt
Anonymous No.149203728 [Report]
>>149192824 (OP)
so me and my friends once asked the question 'why are goblins green?' and our research led us to believe Goblins being green most likely comes from Green Goblin
Anonymous No.149203772 [Report]
>>149198247
I don't know how or where you got all that info from, but well done, anon. Good work. The 2002 Spider-Man movie is probably the explanation for the last thing you mention.
Anonymous No.149203774 [Report]
>>149192824 (OP)
Spiders are typically brown and black, but then certain species have brown and black in their names