It’s kind of fucking insane how badly they adapted her into the MCU considering that her old comics were actually really good

>>149200106 (OP)
……panties…..

>>149200106 (OP)
Making things the Hollywood way is always going to end with any unique qualities getting tenderized into another gutless, gormless pastiche of what producers are already comfortable with. It's not a problem unique to She-Hulk.

>>149200106 (OP)
any specifc comics to recommend?

>>149201107
John Byrne run

>>149202379
seconding this, I read the whole sensational she-hulk line and while the gerber books could be interesting, the byrne ones were where it really stood apart

>>149201107
Sensational She-Hulk (1989-1994) is good from start to finish, but the only GREAT issues are the ones John Byrne did.

>>149200106 (OP)
I love that artstyle.

>>149203353
>that artstyle

You mean "well drawn"?

>>149200106 (OP)
Pickle Rick bitch as a showrunner + Zeb The Cuck Wells + Cody Ziglar + a bunch of noname writers = recipe for a disaster.
Showrunner openly admitted that she didn't care for or read superhero comics which was obvious throughout the show.

>>149202502
>but the only GREAT issues are the ones John Byrne did
Fuck. You.
Steve Gerber was one of the Marvel's greatest writers and I will not tolerate this slander.

>>149201107
The original Savage run. That's it, stop there. Don't listen to Burnefags, his run is putrid garbage.

I've never liked Byrne as a writer. The idea of She-Hulk breaking the fourth wall and being goofy was fun, but most issues were just kinda boring.

Unfortunately I read Slott's run first.
Now I just see her as a brain dead skank every time I see her.

>>149204277
Breaking the fourth wall one time for a joke can work really well, doing it all the time just gets annoying, doesn't matter if it's She-Hulk, Deadpool or anyone else.

As a writer, Byrne was generally as cromulent at superhero comics as most of the other people Marvel and DC employed in the 80s and 90s, but he was a writer you'd want to keep away from characters he had strong opinions about how they "should" be that were completely divorced from reality. Put him on a book like Iron Man where the only 'fixing' he tries to do is just updating the origin a little, and he's fine.

>>149200106 (OP)
The whole show tries to gaslight you into thinking she's hot.

>>149203539
well drawn can apply to a bunch of styles, what are you talking about

>>149201107
She-Hulk (2022) and The Sensational She-Hulk (2023) are both good and well worth reading.

>>149201107
Don't read anything post 2000.

>>149205763
This anon is a liar.

>>149205817
I wanted about to post the same thing but with forbidden bannable words instead, so thanks for saving me trouble of having to ban-evade

>>149205833
*I was about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY

>>149205763
This anon is not a liar.

Rowell's run could have been good if it didn't springboard off of John's and Slott's runs.

>>149203603
>Showrunner openly admitted that she didn't care for or read superhero comics which was obvious throughout the show.
Why does this keep happening? Same shit happened with Iron Fist.

>>149201107
Savage She Hulk + original Sensational She Hulk.

I have every single issue of every She Hulk comic (not counting guest appearances or stuff like avengers/fantastic four).

>>149200106 (OP)
It really was the Last Jedi levels of "fuck you" to the fans but stretched-out to 9 hours.

>>149206307
I have every issue of the first two She-Hulk series and all her Avengers/FF comics. I don't buy new comics so I don't have anything after 1995.

>>149200106 (OP)
It actually makes total sense when you look at the mcu as a mechanical input/output machine.
Women heroes cant be sexy, being sexy is making the woman vulnerable, women have to be strong. Shehulk is funny and breaks the fourth wall, people love deadpool, so based on these two things you already know theyre going to make her turbo feminist, ugly, critiquing male expecations, and subvert the entire idea of being a 'hero' and thats exactly what they did in so many ways and words. She was never, NEVER going to be hot they would literally rather lose money and make a piece of subversive anti art than make her hot they know what they are doing 100%

>>149201107
The entire Sensational Shehulk run is gr8 not just the bryne issues. He only does the first chunk and more at the end, but the ones without him are mostly just as good if not better in some ways for being far more absurd and surreal.

>>149200106 (OP)
>Byrne's art is so phenomenal it tricks you into thinking she's a good character.
What kind of soercery is this!?!

>>149206412
fun and charming, no one thinks her character is that good and she doesnt have to be. Shes also fun and charming in the FF issues he wrote with her. Seethe now that I said this.

>>149206424
True when they did try to add "depth" to her I just got the ick.

>>149206454
YUCK, look, no one likes Dan Slott not even Dan Slott. Thats why he degrades his own body and will die slowly and painfully.

>>149206394
That show shat on WW2 veterans and made-up a NEET loser cousin of Jen's just to get clowned.

>>149206464
Old /co/ loved this and so does Reddit.
I dunno how anybody reads this and has any respect for Jen.

>>149206147
I remember hearing a story how the guy behind The Incredible Hulk (the Bill Bixby series) had some really stupid ideas like wanting to make Hulk red because "red is the color of rage, not green" but got tard-wrangled out of it. He came of as somebody who's very far up his ass and clearly thought of himself as an auteur type too dignified for silly slop like comic books but that worked because Hulk is a tragic character and the auteur's touch helped the character. Plus, as I said, there were people to rein him in on the stupider things.
Nowadays there are no artiste' types and no tard-wranglers, so any chucklefuck can do whatever they want without anybody telling them "hey, that's fucking stupid".
>>149206349
I think it may actually be worse.
At least Last Jedi didn't have redditors for villains.

>>149206532
The Bixby series had this hauntingly beautiful vibe to it.
I hate that we've got saddled with this fucking clown shoes tripe.

>>149206568
I love older pre-MCU superhero shows, even the bad ones.
Bixby series managed to be dramatic without being pointlessly edgy (aka MCU Netflix stuff) or plain dumb (everything else especially this slop in particular). It's too bad we can no longer get anything like that, where it felt like people behind it actually cared to deliver something truly compelling.

>>149203636
No one believes you, you fake-ass contrarian

>>149206491
Old /co/ had some shills and midwits who were proud of not reading any comic made before Quesada became EIC

>>149206491
wow old /co/ and reddit you sure showed me

>>149206532
>>149206568
>>149206628
That's because in spite of being tard wrangled, Kenneth Johnson had actual fucking talent.

>>149207122
Best hulk IMO outside of animated cartoons was Lou Farrigno-sp, though 2008s wasn't bad.

>>149207122
Well, yeah, that's the point.
You no longer have people who want to create something of genuine merit and people who have artistic vision. The beauty of the 70s series is having one man who had both but was stopped from carrying away too far.
It was a result of a beautiful relationship between cinema and comics and as a result it can please both comic book fans and people who are looking for some genuinely good sci-fi drama.
You can't have that nowadays. Feige is a fucking retard with the shittiest tastes in comics and there are no longer any auteurs Snydertards need not apply.
The closest you have was Nolan and I doubt he's gonna touch capeshit any time soon.

>>149207053
That anon you responded to was shitting on them

>>149207218
>Nolan
Really? He made Batman boring.

>>149207309
I never said I liked it. Not a fan of the militaristic pseudo-realism in my capeshit, personally. Just said that he was the last person that he at least tried to make a compelling story.

>>149207339
Fair.

>>149206628
Blame Wheadon, Gunn, and everything they did before MCU and shit trying to copy their shitty style, even back to the 2000s.

>Pirates of the Caribbean
>That Zorro sequel
The 2000s comedy adventure Mummy movies
>the Green Lantern movie which was really a smarmy MCU comedy with DC characters and everyone hated it.

Basically everything that started the smarmy snarkathon irony quipfest type of comedy.

>>149207122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCQW9vJ5FKk

>>149207446
>Blame Wheadon, Gunn, and everything they did before MCU and shit trying to copy their shitty style, even back to the 2000s.
You realize that it was actually as far back as the 90s, right? Do you not pay attention with that sloppy ass Buffy shit that was popular back then which started the whole craze?

>>149206491
>Old /co/ loved this
Not even remotely true

>>149207864
Nigga that was just a flavory option available, it was in the 2000s when that shit started to become more common.

>>149207446
The Mummy is great, get some taste.

>>149208396
Normies are dumb and just love mindless slop, after the 90s Universal Trilogy of Horrors with the Dracula, Frankenstein and Wolfman remakes, which only the first did well, Universal turned their planned Mummy movie into a CGI snark comedy PG13 lamefest.

>>149208511
Were you alive when this movie came out, anon?

>>149208770
Yes, and I am older then you.

>>149206147
>>149206532
They straight up said they're avoiding comic book fans to write their crap, dating back to at least Wandavision where the writer pointed out not even knowing who Mephisto was.

>>149209581
Why the hell would you even have wanted Mephisto in WandaVision, you absolute nugget? There's literally ONE comics story involving Wanda, Vision and Mephisto and it's awful. You're not supposed to want bad comics to get adapted.

>>149208511
>90s Universal Wolfman
This one I don't recall

>>149207446
Pirates of the Caribbean was good, that Zorro sequel was eh but was in 98.
Quips aren't inherently bad, see Golden Age comics and older Bruce Willis movies.

>>149209624
I didn't want that, hell I didn't even watch that, I'm an actual Vision fan and by that point I had realized the MCU had nothing to offer. Reread the post and pay more attention to the context.

Though if they were gonna make Wanda nuts, it would have been an improvement to have her being controlled by SOMETHING, like they had the common sense to do in exactly one mini and then decided to fucking forget.

>>149209629
Oh I think he confuses it with Columbia Pictures Wolf with Jack Nicholson

https://youtu.be/HXcm1cfVIRc

Which was a shit movie, but don't think there was an actual Wolfma....

I look it up and the Universal 90s trilogy were done by Columbia and TriStar.

Oh.....

>>149209906
Wolf was a good movie.

>>149206355
>I don't buy new comics so I don't have anything after 1995
Holy based

>>149200106 (OP)
She

She used to be the best.

>>149200106 (OP)
Were they?

>>149209669
Was the Wafcraft 3/WoW story ruined by capefags obsessed with 'corruption' and there always being some bigger bad guy behind the scenes? Would explain some thing i guess

Anyway the darkhold was messing her up so idk what youre complaining about

>>149200106 (OP)
>Satyr playing a flute in the background
If this was accurate that satyr would be trying to fuck She-Hulk.

>>149200106 (OP)
Lol It really wasn't that bad, bro

>>149209581
>>149209624
The better example regarding the Wandavision writers is that they didn't know what the multiverse was. Which is a very old and dated comic book concept that anyone writing a comic book show doing ANY amount of research would see online.

anyone know any studies on the effects of excessive masturbation on the human brain? asking for some of the anons in here

>>149203636
Your desperate attempts at contrarywise-opinionating are sad, pathetic, and a clear indication of your shameless shilling for corpo comics.

>>149217188
nta but what makes a comic book released by the marvel entertainment group under the ownership of ron perelman's holding company not a "corpo comic"