>Series has a character with a disability like blindness/deafness/being in a wheelchair
>Because of their SPECIAL MAGIC POWERS their disability actually doesn't matter and they can function completely normally like everyone else because the writers don't actually know how to write someone who can't fucking see
Toph is the one exception.

>>149226061 (OP)
I don't like disability media that swings the other way and becomes extra-boring SOL.

Whatever the trope was to allow big mouth to even exist

>Toph is the one exception.
Toph doesn't strictly fall under that category because there's still limitations to her seismic sense (she can't detect anything that's not touching the ground/if she's physically isolated from them somehow, sand dulls her senses and makes it more difficult to detect her surroundings).
Sure, she has it easier than a real blind person, but she still has her physical limitations as a direct result of her blindness.

>>149226061 (OP)
the problem with characters being physically disabled in fiction in regards to inclusiveness is that it's either being written from the perspective of ignorant liberal dickheads who want back-pats, or dumbasses who don't want to reconcile that being disabled unfortunately DOES hamper whatever fantasy they're writing

I work with disabled people for a living, and I used to work with a family with deaf sons. People VASTLY underestimate how much a disability can fuck you over, especially if you don't have the income for things like quality hearing aids or cars with wheelchairs in mind. It is not a quirky or advantageous thing. It makes life harder.

Pic related is the ONLY example of a main character being disabled and STAYING that way. Even when he gets superpowers, he's still fucking disabled. He even feels like a believable person in terms of becoming disabled and how he feels about it

>>149226126
Jews?

>>149226126
You antisemite!

>>149226061 (OP)
1. "Queer coded" characters
2. Woman suddenly being lesbian at the end of the show/movie
2. No gay men, just lesbians

>>149226061 (OP)
sorry but i dont like disabled people they freak me out i wish they would die. i think they would be happier if they die because they wouldnt have to be diabled anymore and they wouldn't bother the rest of us sorry

There were multiple instances of Toph being able to do things that she shouldn't be able to.

>>149226737
Faggot

>>149226254
>Pic related is the ONLY example of a main character being disabled and STAYING that way
Did you finish the manga?
The way Araki writes him as being hampered in battle really adds a lot of suspense though, and makes you sympathize with why he's so motivated to get the corpse of Jesus.
If you want another manga with a disabled character that's disabled the entire time there's always A Silent Voice. Slice of Life but really good.

character dies and comes back to life.
character dies off screen
prophecy comes true no matter what you do
destiny
good guys fighting to support the status quo.
lots of nudity but no cock and balls
characters have no sex life
drawing porn on the side to support non porn project, using the same material.
super power is defeated by water.

I'm sure there are more but those are always so lame.

>>149226985
>good guys fighting to support the status quo
Shut up commiefag
>characters have no sex life
Why should it matter?
>drawing porn on the side to support non porn project, using the same material
Not a trope
>super power is defeated by water
Name ten examples

>Character is permanently disfigured:Broken teeth, scarred face, loss of fingers or toes
>They're completely fine two "shots" or less later because no one making the show wants to deal with what that would actually mean

Fine with "Toonforcer" shows and South Park kind of set a president for itself, but it happens in shows that are clearly trying to be more realistic.

>>149226737
hope this happens so 4chan can die for real

>>149226875
Such as?

>>149226254
Uhhhh
But Johnny gets the ability to walk again after Tusk ACT 4

>>149226719
>>149226692
What, if the show wasn’t ugly it would’ve never been greenlight, that’s what I’m talking about the trope that allows stuff like Big Mouth to exist if it’s ugly but won’t if it wasn’t ugly

>>149226061 (OP)
Daredevil right? We can all agree we're just talking about Daredevil?
Matt is only ever blind when hes either not being Daredevil or its convenient for the plot.

>>149226985
Prophecies in general stuck me as extremely weak. Very, VERY rarely seen them written well.

>>149226061 (OP)
To me its always the lack of ontological inertia. Things that happened and the outcome SHOULD have massive and far-reaching consequences but nothing actually happens and its swept under the rug or the story itself treats it as trivial. It immediately shatters any suspension of disbelief as you KNOW that things should be happening right now, that's not how it works, its bizarrely unrealistic and unbelievable.

Like, in a setting that is supposed to be normal and serious in tone and the existence of magic, a real God or aliens is suddenly confirmed and people just treat it as "yeah, whatever". You fucking know that's not how it would go down, people would have an absolutely crazy reaction, the world would change overnight,

Even in smaller scales, the actions of the characters did not sticking and not changing anything is infuriating, a decent writer should be able to avoid that easily,

>>149226153
>sand dulls her senses and makes it more difficult to detect her surroundings
That seemingly is no longer an issue when she makes a diorama of Ba Sing Se out of sand in Book 3 when they are at a beach.

>>149226126
Big Mouth is based because it has loli nudity.

>>149226061 (OP)
>smart, good looking wife and stupid ugly husband
I hate this bullshit in sitcoms.

>>149229642
Sounds like someone lost their girl to an ugly bastard.

>>149226061 (OP)
A bit off topic but I see this happen all the time in D&D. Ignoring combat wheel chairs somebody always has this idea of playing as a blind monk warrior and they either beg the DM to give them magic items to offset the issue or just dip into a wizard spell to offset the issue. Same thing with D&D racism, unless they can't just punch the guy who doesn't like demons in the face they just use disguise self.

>>149226728
Based. Hate that shit too, it just ends up being pandering or self gratifying for the people who made it.

>>149229495
Its a stretch, but beach sand is more compacted than desert sand so maybe thats why she doesn't mind it.

>>149226061 (OP)
>Toph is the one exception.
Faggot, she's one of the worst examples of that since her being blind automatically made her an earthbending prodigy.

>Its a rag on dads favorite hobby episode

>>149229950
>combat wheelchairs
I'm really glad that the one wheelchair module got updated over time becuase the initial release was entirely
>you are in a wheelchair! which means you have some issues doing things. Good thing theres a rule that means you can do exactly the same thing as a person outside a wheelchair but you have to read another book for it!

>>149226061 (OP)
>character is the "scientist" of the group and therefore knows everything and anything about everything and anything, no matter what scientific field, as long as it falls under "science" it's common knowledge to them

>>149226061 (OP)
if you are going to create a fantasy world, then commit to it. dont try to tie contemporary earth into it. both "earth all along" and "____ goes to the real world" are boring

>>149232763
I guess this is more of an all-around writing trope than just /co/ but does anyone else really fucking hate how every single fictional world and its characters, regardless of the setting, will always bow to the urbanite leftist values of the writers? Tell me you haven't seen shit like this:
>I may be an psychopathic piece of shit and overall horrible person, but I'll still kneel for gay rights and respect your pronouns

>>149232812
Why are you assuming that our prejudices would exist in a constructed world?

>>149232951
Because I'm not so insanely delusional that I believe that every single fictional character ever must conform to my set of ridiculously modern, internet-addled opinons because the idea of someone not doing so makes me want to kill myself.

Some disabled stories can be ok, because usually it goes back to "But what matters is your personality and heart and mind", but any stuff about brain damage or actual retardation is just depressing or pandering

That late 90s zoomers born in 95-96 who LARPs as a 90s kidMillenillal despite not growing up in that era. He’s born closer to Spongebob than Tiny Toons and missed out on the 16-bit era of gaming.

Vast majority of 4chan relates to this.

>>149233056
And in some cases, it really does come across as jarring. Take Belos, for instance. Why is a literal puritan seemingly okay with open homosexuality? You could argue that the puritans were surprisingly ideologically diverse and it's not impossible that some were accepting of homosexuality, but that becomes rather implausible when you remember that Belos believes the inhabitants of the Boiling Isles are irredeemably evil and need to be wiped out entirely.

Honestly, his lack of prejudice in that direction would be more believable if he were a more sympathetic and well-meaning villain.

>>149226254
Bro didn't finish part 7.

>>149226061 (OP)
Rick and Morty adjecent "our show is so smart but we need to explain every part of the joke like it's Epic Movie" humor

>>149231772
Any character like that, scientist or not, is going to piss me off.

>>149233056
Hey, the eldritch monster would NEVER say the n word.

>>149233122
On the contrary, I acknowledge that most of the site is a decade older than me and try my best to hide the fact that I was still shitting on diapers when 9/11 happened.

>>149233955
>>149233056

Cuz if Belos DID openly hate homesexuality everyone would scoff and roll their eyes that the writer is getting on their soapbox by making the villain openly bigoted. We've kinda gotten to a point where everything is so divisive and contentious that it's easier to just...ignore these conflicts just so your work doesn't become bogged down in some stupid discourse. If you're not gonna make the story ABOUT that thing then it feels like needlessly self destructive to try to add that in as a character trait. I can't tell you how hard I roll my eyes when a villain randomly says something Sexist or racist out of the blue.

I don’t sperg out about tropes because it’s always about execution.

>>149234806
I feel like there's a third option to
>Every character has the same opinions as the author
And
>Every character has the same opinions as the author, except the villains who have the opinions the writers disagrees with and considers bad

>>149226061 (OP)
I say this every thread but
>The story or narrative is about the characters risking life and limb to amass some kind of treasure
>The treasure is given up, lost or destroyed at the end as a sort of Aesop about greed.
Just once I want the characters to just end the film Fabulously wealthy. They're fictional, who cares if they're rich at the end? It sucks seeing all the treasure and shit and just KNOWING it'll all be gone by the end of the 3rd act. Maybe it'd be subversive if literally every show and movie didn't do it.

>>149234847
A character who's indifferent to the writer's politics? They'll probably portray them as one of the brainless sheep who don't know the truth.

>>149234861
>who cares if they're rich at the end?
Owning more than other people is bad. You'll own nothing and be happy.

>>149235035
>A character who's indifferent to the writer's politics?
I suppose it's too much to ask of the modern writer to be able to write someone that disagrees with them without making them evil and stupid.

>>149234861
>Just once I want the characters to just end the film Fabulously wealthy
The only example I can think of this actually happening is Steven Universe. Greg got rich, and then... he stayed the same person as he was, but with money now.
Most cartoons are like
>poor person gets money
>they suddenly act fucking stupid and greedy
>lose all the money
>moral: life isn't all about money
But Greg didn't suddenly change who he was. Sure, he went on a vacation, he rented a boat, but the only thing he splurged on was buying a car (a USED car, because he still has a mindset of a low income dude).
I liked that.

>government only ever busts out the big guns for superheroes and never villains
fuck off i wanna see glowies fighting darkseid or something

>>149237368
Cause the heros take care of the job, retard

>>149229642
fat ugly stupid wife and handsome genius husband inversely sounds pretty based

>>149234861
More /a/ than /co/ but I'm glad the author of One Piece has gone on record saying that the titular treasure IS indeed a treasure that the main characters will get in the end.

>>149236253
SU had some real weird verisimilitude moments like that.

>>149237368
Invincible rubbed me so well on this one. There IS a king glowie moving absolute heaven and earth and exhausting every single option possible to defend from spandex threats and actually pretty decent at it until of course dub writer fiat happens.

>>149226061 (OP)
>Toph is the one exception

Also, the wheelchair guy from Extreme Ghostbusters. Also in hindsight, kinda crazy that the villain in Korra S1 basically cripples his opponents. Imagine having your neat elemental superpowers taken away. I'd be so pissed.

>>149226061 (OP)
Shrinking episodes. I just don't see why so much media ever did shrinking episodes. It was always lame shit like the characters now have to fight insects and rodents. The movie that popularized shrinking is the Amazing Shrinking Man but that movie is a tragedy showing how horrible a fate it is to shrink with no happy ending. So seeing many cartoons do lame shrinking episodes and missing the point was infuriating. Even recent movies like Downsizing completely miss the point that shrinking is a fucking hideous thing for a human being to endure.

Thank god that more recent media has largely forgotten about this trope. Most of the time shrinking comes across as a fetish but one that cannot be satisfied because its usually done in kid's shows so for example during a shrinking episode conveniently female characters cease to exist most of the time or if they show up they have a minimal role to play. Glad this cliche is largely gone from the industry waste of budget money.

I fucking despite any and all meta humor in kids' cartoons, especially if it's some gay stupid shit that the average child viewer has no clue about. It feels incredibly self-masturbatory and smug whenever it's done.

>>149226061 (OP)
Main characters being unlikable. I don't care if the main characters are unlikable due to being stupid like Korra or outright criminals like Helluva Boss or simply shitty people like Bojack Horseman. I don't want to waste my time pretending such lousy shoddy individuals should be supported.

Korra surprisingly being the worst example from the mentioned above because we know her actions outright ruined the world itself given the sequel series that's coming.

Can I say i hate TVTropes as a whole?

>>149226061 (OP)
Super senses should still have a limitation.